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Yes.
No, and I'll explain why.
Main idea:"No leavers" flag should be replaced with parameter - "Leaver protection rate" - maximum % of leaves that is allowed for a game.Remarks:
- It can be typed like min or max psr and can have integer value 0-N (N migth be any 10..100 - doesn't play key role).
- Players that have more leave % than is defined in game shouldn't see that game or at least shouldn't be able to join it.
Benefits:
- This will help people with less than 5% leave rate to play more leaver protected game.
- People that got more than 5% leaves also will gain some leave protection.
Last edited by Rixy; 09-14-2010 at 12:13 PM.
No.
5% is pretty much nail on.
A 0-100 value will only make finding games a lot longer for a lot of people. Mostly people who are between 2-5% leave and people who are over 10% leave.
The current kick/concede system are not what i would call perfect(or even decent) as it only takes 1 griefer to completely ruin the game for a side. I prefer to leave such a game, rather then rage and stress myself due to a game. A lot of other people prefer this as well, and its easy with a 5% leave cap to keep yourself under the radar.
What he said, I would just add a status for people who leave during countdownOriginally Posted by Midya
I'll try to get your point of view:
PSR filter also make finding games a lot longer for a lot of people. So let's make psr cap 1700 and there will be 2 type of games - lower than 1700 and higher.
This is wrong and it's useful that u can define exactly the PSR u want in ur game. So I don't understand why u want to disallow me to define my own leave %. Or you want me to look stats of every player if I'm host, or what's worse - ask another host to kick all players that have more than 2% leaves???
PS: if there's a cap of 5%, then we got up to 40% (=0,95^10) that anyone from 10 ppl will leave. So u want to tell me that if I got <1% leaves, I don't have right to play with <1% leavers with up to 9,5% of leave (instead of 40%)????
If ppl vote No as trolls, I can't do anything with it.
But if u are ready to interact - don't vote No instantly, coz in interaction process u can change ur oppinion.
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this game doesnt need more lines drawn between games; and this feels like a boon to leavers. a 25% leaver barrier might as well be not there at all. 5% makes allowances for the occasional software error, while being a hard wall for people who ditch games because they are bad humans. people that leave too much ruin the game, and thats 9 other people who sol, so its really like 45 times worse
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OMG! why u said 25% why not 90?
There are many people that have 5-7% of leaves and still want to have some protection.
And u forgot about REALLY lots of people with 0-2% of leaves who want to have MORE protection.
Yes and no...the idea I think shouldn't be a player-set option. Why not? Because 5% is a perfect number for leaver protection, and if games started having different numbers all over the place, it would result in much annoyance. You'd see "leaver protected" games that allow 100% leave.
I'd be okay with something that allows those ABOVE 5% leave to be able to clear their names - that is: Say you're a leaver. You have 15% leave, but don't want to play with someone who has 50% leave. You're stuck playing non-leaver protected games, and that is hell for you. So when you create a game, you select no leavers even though you're above 5% and the game shows itself to those who are also above 5% leave, but under your leave of 15% (or whatever it's actually at).
Right now, if you're a leaver, and on the filter you select both "show only leaver-protected games" and "Hide restricted games" you will NEVER see a game pop up. Ever. With this, when selecting those two options, you would see games pop up with a percentage number in place of the normal
Tadah, an option to give leavers some leverage room, but without disturbing the rest of the population.
1) 100 isn't required. It may be 0-10 - not 0-100Yes and no...the idea I think shouldn't be a player-set option. Why not? Because 5% is a perfect number for leaver protection, and if games started having different numbers all over the place, it would result in much annoyance. You'd see "leaver protected" games that allow 100% leave.
I'd be okay with something that allows those ABOVE 5% leave to be able to clear their names - that is: Say you're a leaver. You have 15% leave, but don't want to play with someone who has 50% leave. You're stuck playing non-leaver protected games, and that is hell for you. So when you create a game, you select no leavers even though you're above 5% and the game shows itself to those who are also above 5% leave, but under your leave of 15% (or whatever it's actually at).
Right now, if you're a leaver, and on the filter you select both "show only leaver-protected games" and "Hide restricted games" you will NEVER see a game pop up. Ever. With this, when selecting those two options, you would see games pop up with a percentage number in place of the normal
Tadah, an option to give leavers some leverage room, but without disturbing the rest of the population.
2) Even if game would have 100 - it won't be "leaver protected", it will be a game with "leaver protection rate = 100"
3) about filter - u can set all filters to "no" and you'll never see games too. Or if your provider's ping is higher than 30 and you'll set filter on ping (<30) you won't see any games too. Or u can be <1400 psr and set flag min psr = 1900 and being kicked from each game.
So let's remove as much flags as to ALWAYS find at least one game? Or let's disable ping? Or psr?
If u can't set filters properly it's ur own problem. So u want to reduce usability cos of some dumbs???
PS to previous post - I have 0,7% leaves. And I think 1% is perfect for me. Those who have 2,3% think that 3% is perfect. Those who 5,2% - 6%. And so on and so on...
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0/10
whoooot? oO
Anyone over 1% is trash or has trash internet.
Don't set for countdown leavers, countdown leavers leave against pub stomps.
Anyone who has less then 4% can leave easily, coz he will still be able to join "no leavers" game. But if there will be not fixed leave cap, there will be a reason not to leave in ALL cases.
I agree, that's why setting it lower is better.
I'll explain why I voted no when you change the yes option to "Yes and I'll explain why"
no double standard for you.
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Omg how stupid can people be... Why yes is already explained in 1st topic. And why no isn't. So if someone votes yes - it's clear why. But if someone votes no - it isn't clear.
Shame on u if u still need capitan obvious...
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