3v3 Darkwood Vale, proposal for variety

[JPonry]

I did a search, and found nothing, so sue me if there is something on this.

Have there been any plans to add 3v3 Darkwood Vale as a viable bracket? TBH the map is very interesting, pretty well balanced. Of course there is a different playstyle involved but as long as it remains on Darkwood Vale, everything seems peachy.

Just sayin, seeing some competitive 3s would be awesome for a change, discuss.

[Fenald]

pretty sure someone did a tournament that no one cared about on it.

[winDy]

Warbeast would be firstpicked every game. I'm just sayin. All that extra gold = superfast farm and he will continue that farm. If u try block creepcamps etc. you just basicly loose alot of the vision they could give instead. + that 2 sololanes would be insane. If you counter with another jungler = autoloose cause other 2 lanes would be gankers (dr repulsor ftw?) na but honestly would be alot of fun. But the moneyproblem is such a biggie cuz ye... think about wich heroes who gain alot by getting the money. ^^

Oh well!

[mep]

All the other maps are imbalanced, not many good teams would enter the tournament

[JPonry]

All the other maps are imbalanced, not many good teams would enter the tournament

I can guarantee that Darkwood Vale is ALOT more balanced than Forest of Caldavar for the 3v3 setting, simply due to its size and 1 less lane; if you've ever played
3v3 on Forest, you'll know what I'm talking about.

And not only that, but simply saying its not balanced keeps people from TRYING it. You can only think its unbalanced if you play it once.
I myself, although not a tournament player, play 3v3 a lot, and I see nothing wrong with Darkwood for 3v3. Granted there may be some imbalances, although
I have not seen any striking ones (war beast is pretty strong in here, to argue to an above poster, but its easily beatable). You could say the exact same thing for Forest in 5v5, different modes of play grant more use to certain heroes. Nothing is ever in perfect balance, including Forest 5v5. More or less, however, the same heroes have the same viability as in Forest, give or take 1 here or there.

Honestly you just have to get used to a different lay-out than the Forest people hold so dear to. Let me add, by no way means am I against 5v5, I would just like to see
some variety.

TDLR; what I'm trying to say is that Darkwood 3v3 just needs proper exposure.

[[SK5]Pwn]

3v3s rule and forest has it's imbalances as well. And Warbeast is LOL easy counter. I'd also suggest making the 3v3 game bd instead of bp.

You would see a lot of new stuff.

[Coconutter]

darkvale is a really fun map. 3vs3 are alot more fun than 5vs5 .

[McBee]

From what I heard on HoNCasts Podcast (They had a dev on) that Darkvale is gone and they have created a new 3v3 map that should be on the test client friday/saturday.

So no, there probably wont be any Darkvale tournaments.

He mentioned no kongor, and only 1 rune spot and everything will be a lot smaller (Bases, map) etc..etc..

[[DWi]rYCHO]

as if the traditional map is balaned, lol

[JPonry]

From what I heard on HoNCasts Podcast (They had a dev on) that Darkvale is gone and they have created a new 3v3 map that should be on the test client friday/saturday.

So no, there probably wont be any Darkvale tournaments.

He mentioned no kongor, and only 1 rune spot and everything will be a lot smaller (Bases, map) etc..etc..

Is it really going to be done away with? I don't see the point of removing it completely. Why not just have both maps exist, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't remove fine content, even for public play... doesn't seem to be any reason to.

[[HCT]BreakyCPK]

You can check out the podcast under our podcast section, its the Honcast Weekly Episode 10.... and yes Idejder confirms that Darkwood Vale will be thrown out and replaced with a modified 3v3 map with one rune and no boss.... he also leaked a couple of other things, check it out.

[[SK5]Pwn]

Wow they didn't even give vale a chance. Now comes s2 the ruiners of all things balanced or fun. Time for 3v3 to go the way of zephyr.

[JPonry]

You can check out the podcast under our podcast section, its the Honcast Weekly Episode 10.... and yes Idejder confirms that Darkwood Vale will be thrown out and replaced with a modified 3v3 map with one rune and no boss.... he also leaked a couple of other things, check it out.

Jees, they'll actually remove darkwood, but not remove watchtower? lol

I just don't see the point of REMOVING content from the game, because public games still play the map often enough. Not to mention it gets played alot more than Watchtower :P

Welp.... so much for my Darkwood Vale tutorial video that I'm working on

[[TSTI]ridic`]

Wow they didn't even give vale a chance. Now comes s2 the ruiners of all things balanced or fun. Time for 3v3 to go the way of zephyr.

The map sucks.

[JPonry]

The map sucks.

haters gonna hate

[mep]

haters gonna hate

non haters gonna not hate

[man_guy]

Jees, they'll actually remove darkwood, but not remove watchtower? lol

I just don't see the point of REMOVING content from the game, because public games still play the map often enough. Not to mention it gets played alot more than Watchtower :P

Welp.... so much for my Darkwood Vale tutorial video that I'm working on

From listening to one of the podcasts, I was under the impression that it would look and feel enough like Darkwood that there would be no reason to have two similar maps when the first would be inferior.

[JPonry]

well then if so maybe...

but flat out removing content just seems counter productive otherwise o_O

[Dobattlers]

How about we put 4 baskets in basketball and make football fields 40 yards long and circular. Then we can add another 2 bases in baseball and have no out of bounds or penalty box in soccer.

You have your playing field, the most popular map. the other maps can be likened to custom maps on sc and wc, they are merely for fun and not considered the true game itself.

[JPonry]

How about we put 4 baskets in basketball and make football fields 40 yards long and circular. Then we can add another 2 bases in baseball and have no out of bounds or penalty box in soccer.

You have your playing field, the most popular map. the other maps can be likened to custom maps on sc and wc, they are merely for fun and not considered the true game itself.

I fail to see the validity of that argument. In those said sports there are SET RULES on the measurements of each field and baskets etc etc.

Unless I am wrong, I do believe there are no set rules for this map, sure the TRADITION is set for forest of caldavar setup, but I have yet to see any rules for this.

So with that argument said that im quoting, what if we add every possible world? No one map in almost every e-sport game is only played (some of the older FPS games for example quake2 >> q2dm1 was the most played traditional map but was never the end all map for every competitive play), also correct me if i'm wrong, multiple SC maps are played?

If you think i'm not allowed to compare this game to other games then you are contradicting yourself when you compare it to athletic sports.