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Why is it simply not possible to substain a decent psr rating without a team, when playing in public?
its not that hard. im 1700 and i win most of my matches when playing alone
yeah, on my sub I played a game that cost me roughly 35 points, and I lost, because we had an intentional feeder on our team. PSR shouldn't be determined by external influences, especially players on your own team in the case of intentional feeding etc.) there should be a feeder vote option that's team exclusive, because no opposing team will vote kick a free farm :/
I must agree a bit. I do believe the PSR system is a very good system. But I have been having a less extreme case with me getting up to 1570 with the help of my brother. When I went pubbing about 15 games i was down to 1490 or something. I think we're really in the same tier, but he has 1670, think he thinks the same. The thing is that he's a carry player. He can play other heroes but his top five is
:chro:
with quite a lead on madman pyro and scout. Really i feel that the hero coices might be the thing that makes him a 1670 and me a 1550-1570 as a support I'm more Dependant on my team doing well rather than me. He can have a really crappy team then go to the enemy woods with scout and come out with a genocide. Dsham cannot do that.
tl;dr:Play as the team carry and you will get closer to your true skill rating. If you're a balanced player that is.
Last edited by MrSnowman; 07-31-2010 at 12:02 PM.
Originally Posted by MrSnowman
I must agree a bit. I do believe the PSR system is a very good system. But I have been having a less extreme case with me getting up to 1570 with the help of my brother. When I went pubbing about 15 games i was down to 1490 or something. I think we're really in the same tier, but he has 1670, think he thinks the same. The thing is that he's a carry player. He can play other heroes but his top five is
tl;dr:Play as the team carry and you will get closer to your true skill rating. If you're a balanced player that is.
my top 5 are
only 1 carry in here and im doing fine
In beta when playing alone i was hovering 1750-1800 psr.
Now i'm playing with good people and i'm hovering around 1700 psr.
It really just comes down to luck and how much you play. I had twice as many games played in beta and my psr was higher so yeah.
Today I saw a 1450 beat a 1700 in mid. Just so you know.
Beta PSR was about +100 on your skill level anyways.
I was 1750-1800 in Beta and the mega-pros were 2100~. They're now more 1900-2000 and I'm 1700 (1660~ after a lovely lose streak).
Not really the issue, most people these days play in groups. So the average level of the players now is higher than in beta. Most people that managed to solo their psr to their levels now end up in trouble because now they are fighting full teams.
can't beat me being 1700+ PSR and going down to 1450.
Solution: Soulstealer, Devourer, Deadwood, Fayde, Valkyrie.
Deadwood and devourer on mid will get you a quick 15-20 min concede in lower PSR brackets. That's what I'm doing.. thing is it gets boring as **** and I end up picking an actual hero and get a retard on middle that can't do anything so ye. Down goes my PSR.
I'll eventually start playing with a full team of friends and get back to 1700+ anyway...But ye. There are people at 1700+ that just don't belong there.
Last edited by Zetron; 07-31-2010 at 02:52 PM.
PSR just says very little about the player's skill. There's several games where I was facing 1700+ or maybe 1800+ where I just make them look bad. And according to some people here I should be 1300+.
EDIT: seems I was in your game: Match 9008974
Last edited by AngryTrooper; 07-31-2010 at 03:12 PM.
I dont play in a team oo. You have too few Creepkills for your top played heroes. 2 creep denies. Low K+A: D (just a few things). Sry you dont deserve to be higher.
No flame or anything just my opinion. Become better = win more = higher psr
/edit: "1400 beating 1700 mid": Well could be outpicked, bad day , what ever
Last edited by Rukii; 07-31-2010 at 03:09 PM.
Why? If you dont belong in the 1000-1400 range you will literally be raping the other team with a mid-semi carry. If you do belong there and are at par with your team you'll achieve an average of 50% wins.
[stream]www.twitch.tv/Kaluroo[Type /join Kaluro in-game for a fun pub channel!]In HoN, attacking structures during the absence of creeps is not backdooring.If someone is utilizing guerrilla style tactics on your structures, it is an acceptable strategy.
The difference between 1605 and 1490 actually isn't very big. It only takes something like 5-10 losses in a row to drop down to the 1400s. Sometimes you will get a bad team a couple of times in a row and lose a bit of psr, but if you focus on just playing well yourself your psr will increase in the long run. If you just can't seem to increase your psr past a point, it is almost certainly because thats where you belong.
If you end up in really low brackets the way you are going to win is to carry your team. The best way imho is to go for the army build War Beast. You can knock down towers with the the other team really being able to do much.
Also having a ton of units around you helps protect you from things like Swiftblade and Moon Queen's ultimates. Just becuase MQ and Swift seem to be the most popular carries at that level.
If you actually think the psr system is garbage, you're dumb.
A good support is as valued as a good carry. Its easy to rice up creepkills andcome out right clicking people. Its much harder to set up wards for your team, to be there at the right time to heal your team, to make sure your team stays alive, to harass in the lane phase so the carry can last hit, etc.
I find it baffling if you can manage to drop 200 points on the scale.
Eventually you can hit a point where you can go back up. If you can't, you are at where you belong.
Obviously there are bad 1700 players and decent 1400 players, but the system will always shift to 1800+ being the better group and <1400 being the worse group.
If you can't win out of a low psr bracket, you aren't ready to move up. There's a reason why that one 1750 pubstar can stomp a random 1500 ap game. He's at the level. (or he just plays soulstealer way too much)
Only doing pub games on my first account, I sustained 1700 over the course of 300 games. Now with this account I have purely pubbed and raising rating easily. You win some, you lose some- it's just how it goes. However the you're more likely to win if you fill in the gaps of your team, instead of just picking a preferred hero.
Also don't join obvious pub stomps.
I've never gone below 1400 and that time i went that far back, I carried those games easy back to 1600-1700. Seems like the system works correctly.
I don't see how anyone that were to find himself in the 1700 range drop under 1500 sure you can get an unlucky streak but when some people say it's hard to get back up from under 1500? man I've seen these games, free kills all over the place, usually no wards, no courier and no map awareness of any player if your a decent player you should be able to carry the game with a strong ganker a semi carry or a hard carry
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