BKB (Shruken Head) is worthless.

[[LC]Vadi]

I think it's fine. How else do you counter a magic immune magmus about to pwn your team?

[[KwS]Enceladus]

I think it's fine. How else do you counter a magic immune magmus about to pwn your team?

bkb cant be countered, so your team will eventually be pwnd by sand king...
same should follow with magmus.

ps: make shunken and you suffer no damage from magmus ult =. same situation

[[IDS]Demise_]

You can't purge Blood Hunters Silence because it counts as a buff, even when cast on an opponent. So to fix shrunken Head all the need to do is make it a debuff instead of a buff. If a teammate decides to purge u when you use shrunken head then its your problem.

[Anonymous5]

Prefer it this way, why should BKB have no Counter?

Diffusal charges can still be used on other targets / in other ocassions, and diffusal is still a good item when you're out of charges, while a disabled bkb won't do anything apart from being an utter piece of crap you spent 3900 gold in.

[[EVL]xjjjay]

I fully agree with the OP, even with the language. How does "spell immunity" equal "spell immunity with the exception of spells that dispel it." BKB was already nerfed heavily, this is just ridiculous.

Another thing is how the mods here never seem to be on your side. S2 is making HoN so much more pub friendly and less and less appealing to competitive, inhouse dota play.

[Elmy]

Another thing is how the mods here never seem to be on your side. S2 is making HoN so much more pub friendly and less and less appealing to competitive, inhouse dota play.

Not really. They've said many times they intend the game to be competitive in nature. And anyway, changing this to reflect DotA would be a competitive-play move. Which is fine. The item is weak enough as it is without it being purgeable.

You have to remember that most Mods are S2 fanboys as well, just given a pretty star.

[[trNs]Darkstrand]

Jereziah's repel is a magic effect - it should be purgeable. Shrunken head is specifically built as innate magic immunity, not a magic effect that confers magic immunity.

This fellow sums it up just right imo

[Fleder]

I think it's fine. How else do you counter a magic immune magmus about to pwn your team?

just dont let the whole team stand on one spot

so he cant knock out everyone and after his short ulti u can kill him easily

[slayerbizkit]

No need to sugar-coat this issue or berate the OP, BKB being purgable is retarded, please fix this issue/bug.

[Fausterion]

Purge in its current form is waaaay too strong if it can negate avatar from SH. This needs to be fixed.

[Gipp]

i found out the hard way that SH could be purgeable as i was hammerstorm vs electrician so he double countered me
boy was that a long game to win

[[MKS]Retic1]

leave it alone....IF purge cannot dispel "ultimate buffs" (ie: sven's/Hammer dude's ulti, Blood hunter's rupture, etc).

Otherwise, Shrunken Head must NEVER be dispellable. Has this been reported anyhows?

[Mephs]

Why change it? If you take the time to farm BKB, and someone takes the time to farm purge blade just to counter it, that's part of the game. Change your strat accordingly.

[Karmashock]

I think it's fine. How else do you counter a magic immune magmus about to pwn your team?

I agree... it costs as much to counter this as it does to make it in the first place which is very balanced. Further, magmus shouldn't even need shruken head to do his ult. He needs shunken head to SURVIVE AFTER his his ult. Portal key is what lets him get his ult off.

As to protecting yourself from magmus... it's magical damage... you'd be surprised how well shamanic headdress works against all sorts of magic attacks. It won't help you much if you're an INT or AGI hero but if you're STR the headdress will make you highly resistant to magmus and other similar AoE damage.

[Lethe]

Agree, purge should not remove the magic immunity aspect of shrunken head, being slowed through magic immunity is fine, losing it completely is not. Makes Elec that much better lol

On a sidenote I wouldn't call it worthless though lol. U'll still get it on tempest Soulstealer Pestilence Madman etc.

Oh Elec crushes Pestilence and Madman too. Score.

[KARTlK]

People who can't identify a bug in a game in development are retarded.

Stop whining, start reporting.

Irony post. I wish I could sig for epic but it's out of context.


It's been said a trillion times: this is balanced.

Edit: Oh. Changed my mind. Shrunken head should get 10 secs magic immune every time like it used to.

[Lethe]

Irony post. I wish I could sig for epic but it's out of context.


It's been said a trillion times: this is balanced.

Edit: Oh. Changed my mind. Shrunken head should get 10 secs magic immune every time like it used to.

You do know that purge would not null the magic immunity affect from bkb in dota right?

[weeD`SuFFo]

It shouldn't remove bkb effect, that's pathetic tbh. Slowing bkb users is ok tho. :x

[Lews]

Somebody made a good point in saying that Jereziah's anti-magic shield IS unpurgable even though it is the EXACT SAME THING as Shrunken head's effect.

No, they arn't.

Charm lasts 20 seconds, and a 3900$ item lasts 9/8/7/6/5 (i'll double check numbers later). BKB as it is, is very weak since later on since it only lasts 5 seconds, at the price tag of 3900 bucks - that's pretty bad in my books.

Charm lasts 20 seconds, and is a Buff. Castable on any target, Shrunken head is an item that grants the wearer magic immunity upon activation. It shouldn't be purgeable.

[[S2]Idejder]

Might be changed. Keep your eyes open in the next patches.