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    IMO as there are no WC3 Mod limitations, she should be changed, but I always liked her.. think the concept is cool but she needs some new touches.

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    Boring ridiculously stupid hero in DotA, you just farmed for 40 minutes then right clicked some people.

    I whole-heartedly T-Down this.

    By the way, you didn't even change anything. You just changed like, a word in every spell and the name, kept the appearance, kept the descriptions, kept EVERYTHING. This isn't a port, this IS Mortred.
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    thats the point blarfles, it IS a port. if he changed the skills it wouldnt be a port, it would be a remake of the hero.

    tbh i would rather see that sand type of mortred then the watery (we already have galcius/kraken with waterspells, but no1 with sand attacks >.<)

    and the third skill could be "wind mastery-Phantom Killer (that should be changed asap) with her incredible speed couses winds areound her that raise the sand from the ground making her hard to see"

    her ulti could also be name ''lethal blade'' or ''lethal strike''-i didnt say it is the best non-lame name, its just a suggestion

    just to say, if u find the hero boring, it doesnt make him worthless/not worthy enough to get a port. what if some1 said that your favourite hero is boring and that stoped his port from dota to hon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarfles View Post
    Boring ridiculously stupid hero in DotA, you just farmed for 40 minutes then right clicked some people.

    I whole-heartedly T-Down this.

    By the way, you didn't even change anything. You just changed like, a word in every spell and the name, kept the appearance, kept the descriptions, kept EVERYTHING. This isn't a port, this IS Mortred.
    That was my entire whole point in this thread but nobody seemed to get it.

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    cos that point sucks. its a port, not a remake.
    read the topic name (again i say read!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by m4c4n999 View Post
    cos that point sucks. its a port, not a remake.
    read the topic name (again i say read!)
    Geez you are annoying me buddy look at what we have in HoN:

    Tempest was a Voidwalker in DotA, but here he is a giant floating... thing, and he is not based around shadows.

    Accursed was a Deathknight, riding a horse in DotA, based around shadows, here he is a knight on foot based around fire.

    Succubus was a bane elemental in DotA, here it is a.. succubus.

    Valkyrie had a bow, was riding a tiger and was a nightelve in DotA, here it is a human with a spear and shield on foot.


    Are these heroes remakes? No, they are direct ports, they have simply changed themes and visuals, which this suggestion does not have. Do you understand me? This suggestion is not even a port, it is a shameless steal from DotA and Warcraft, since there is no Wardens nor elves in HoN.

    She does not even have to be remade, some people find her boring and some don't. Many people find Bristleback boring, but was he remade? No he stayed the same but you know what changed? The hero model, the spell animations, all the names. It is not a pig anymore, it is a freaking armadon. And THIS is what a port needs, suggestions for new visuals, he was basically telling people what PA looks like, what stats + spells she has, and asked us if we want this hero ported, yeah sure but not like that, not because PA has to be remade, but because he made no damn changes. And now don't tell me he changed the names, Phantom Assassin -> Phanton Killer? Wow, Stifling Dagger -> Poisonous Dagger, Blinkstrike -> Phantomstrike (IIRC) Blur -> Camouflage Coupe de grace -> Mastery of Killing Weapons, the only names that don't have like 1 word changed, are Camouflage and Mastery of Killing Weapons, and those sound pretty lame. Also he didn't bother to look for new icons, which to me suggests that the spells are going to look the same as in DotA.

    Now don't tell me that the point "this suggestion is bad because it is 100% the same as in dota without any changes whatsoever" is bad, and i am not talking about ability changes, i am talking about, visuals, animations and theme changes. Because this is what makes out a good port. And I guess those people who voted yes are those who just want PA in the game to wtfpwn again and do not care what the hero looks like anyways since PA is going to invisible at some point anyways (another stupid point about blur, why make the effort of creating a good model if no one will see it anymore after blur was learned).

    Why are you still defending this thread, even the OP has realised that a theme change is required.

    Edit: oh yeah and thank you very much for visiting my suggestion and voting no for no real reason, that's totally not childish
    Last edited by Bobnintendo; 08-27-2009 at 02:55 AM.

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    i know what is port and remake but lets see... somebody think that she is boring because of skills... oke then it would be REMAKE... and no skills are oke. just i will find sand theme and gg... and if u think that she is boring, then go play torturer and mass magic them...


    btw here is sand PA ... is it good or something else maybe u wanna see?
    Last edited by k1k1999; 08-27-2009 at 04:09 AM.

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    port=hero with same skills
    remake=hero with some old and some new skills
    host made a port. u were saying smthing about shity skills and how the hero si boring. if u wnated a remake u could make yourown thread with that. i prefer direct port. thats why im defending this topic

    vote no cos u were saving gold from the line, and in case u died u wouldnt loose anything. thats the reason it wasnt implemented in dota. and if u missclicked, think of the lose gold as punishment/burden/whatver
    vote around 3 am this morning, didnt feel like writing anything. typing now there


    @kiki he loosks liek magmus without a hammer
    rather smthing like this (googled sand assassin)
    Last edited by m4c4n999; 08-27-2009 at 06:15 AM.

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    T-UP

    ....IF she looks NOTHING like her DOTA counterpart...

    Thanks

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    we have already something like this... SCOUT... i dont wanna her 2 be like him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k1k1999 View Post
    we have already something like this... SCOUT... i dont wanna her 2 be like him...
    Scout as Mortred .. u have to be kidding me




    As i said, the whole idea of the PA new concept look should be something quick , and switft and cool looking , not something like Tiny or Pebles huge massive Stone that walks lol ... Either way . As i stated either a Sand type of Character or Something related to the Sun ... Since we have a moon hero night hero ... earth hero ... So sun could also be good ... i guess And yes mortred is good as it is perfectl balanced , all tho she only will need a new look since its HoN ..

    *EDIT* Here is a link of something id like to see similar ... Quick, swift, Fast and good .. Also retared to the dunes and sands ...

    http://tiobolasdoro.deviantart.com/a...etch-100634858


    or this one :


    http://art-anti-de.deviantart.com/ar...andit-99445231




    NOTE* it doesnt even have to have a sword.. it can have something like a chain blade .. uknow something thats is like a blade but its long and as chain .. i dont know the name of that weapon ... to make it more original
    Last edited by SunTzu_; 08-27-2009 at 08:38 AM.

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    http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...leAssassin.jpg
    mb with some cloth change she would look better

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    Ye , but im definitely sticking to the Desert looks concept .... Prince of Persia matchs the looks right now the best in a way .... Something like him would be best

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    Copy pasting skills and icons will not get this suggestion in the top suggestions.

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    Problem is , im bad with the forum postings n all, and making it all look flashy, but we if want it to get in TOP SUGGESTIONS, it would be best if we all agree on one concept for example

    Phantom Assassin Port from Dota to HoN

    To a Possible Male character:

    Theme : Sand

    Same skills .. Juts new looks ..

    *EDIT*
    Found another decent sketch.


    http://darkness127.deviantart.com/art/Assassin-13653782


    And such things, so someone can make it here a good post with all specs n looks n all . so we find a good pic that would suit n all (i prefer prince of persia kind of look , but thats just me )
    Last edited by SunTzu_; 08-27-2009 at 09:28 AM.

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    Phantom killer... don't like the name :<

    Way too 08/15

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    Just got another name and idea

    Name something like : Rakddu, The Dune Crawler ... (I dont know if its a lame name but .. Exaple ))

    Id also be glad to see this :

    One more dune type .. but actually a Scorpion , we know there used to be sand king in Dota as socrpio , we all loved him , But wht if we had a better good looking scorpion design of phnatom assassin , like one of them desert black scorps .. Imagine that .. His Slow could be sort of a poison with his tail throw something like from slither but in different animation , which makes slow to enemies, then second blink skill Would be similar to Predators leap to enemy , something similar to that .. Thirds the blur , would be with the prevous sand cloud around him idea , like glowing cloud effect ,. And then the ulti Would perfectly fit the dmg and the looks and design ... I mean when u see that tail hit someone a crit with 1300 dmg wouldnt be verry funny What do you think ? I actually like this idea too :S
    Last edited by SunTzu_; 08-27-2009 at 09:37 AM.

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    well why not... if succubs can be like QoP, PA can be like SK :P but i dont like idea about she looking like SK... his look doesnt have anything what would be for assassin ...

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    hmm maybe smthing like this

    her dagger could be a posionus dart that makes enemies muscles cramp, slowing their ms for x%
    blink could be smthing like burrowstrike (we just need a new name)

    her evasion could be smthing that she uses 2 of her legs to push away incomming attacks so they miss her

    but dunno about the ultimate >.> we could use Sun's tail attack, sounds cool enough

    @kiki what do u know about assassins? u wanted her to be a hot mass of rocks with a body of a body builder xD



    or we could go robot-scorp :P
    http://www.luximage.com/galerie/pers...5_Scorpion.jpg

  20. #60
    PA is alright, but there's a dozen other DotA heroes I'd rather see ported over first. She's just a boring auto attack here. The dagger/blink combo takes no real thought or planning (at least SA has to *try* to land his cloud in the right spot).

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