cos that point sucks. its a port, not a remake.
read the topic name (again i say read!)
Geez you are annoying me buddy look at what we have in HoN:
Tempest was a Voidwalker in DotA, but here he is a giant floating... thing, and he is not based around shadows.
Accursed was a Deathknight, riding a horse in DotA, based around shadows, here he is a knight on foot based around fire.
Succubus was a bane elemental in DotA, here it is a.. succubus.
Valkyrie had a bow, was riding a tiger and was a nightelve in DotA, here it is a human with a spear and shield on foot.
Are these heroes remakes? No, they are direct ports, they have simply changed themes and visuals, which this suggestion does not have. Do you understand me? This suggestion is not even a port, it is a shameless steal from DotA and Warcraft, since there is no Wardens nor elves in HoN.
She does not even have to be remade, some people find her boring and some don't. Many people find Bristleback boring, but was he remade? No he stayed the same but you know what changed? The hero model, the spell animations, all the names. It is not a pig anymore, it is a freaking armadon. And THIS is what a port needs, suggestions for new visuals, he was basically telling people what PA looks like, what stats + spells she has, and asked us if we want this hero ported, yeah sure but not like that, not because PA has to be remade, but because he made no damn changes. And now don't tell me he changed the names, Phantom Assassin -> Phanton Killer? Wow, Stifling Dagger -> Poisonous Dagger, Blinkstrike -> Phantomstrike (IIRC) Blur -> Camouflage Coupe de grace -> Mastery of Killing Weapons, the only names that don't have like 1 word changed, are Camouflage and Mastery of Killing Weapons, and those sound pretty lame. Also he didn't bother to look for new icons, which to me suggests that the spells are going to look the same as in DotA.
Now don't tell me that the point "this suggestion is bad because it is 100% the same as in dota without any changes whatsoever" is bad, and i am not talking about ability changes, i am talking about, visuals, animations and theme changes. Because this is what makes out a good port. And I guess those people who voted yes are those who just want PA in the game to wtfpwn again and do not care what the hero looks like anyways since PA is going to invisible at some point anyways (another stupid point about blur, why make the effort of creating a good model if no one will see it anymore after blur was learned).
Why are you still defending this thread, even the OP has realised that a theme change is required.
Edit: oh yeah and thank you very much for visiting my suggestion and voting no for no real reason, that's totally not childish
Last edited by Bobnintendo; 08-27-2009 at 02:55 AM.
i know what is port and remake but lets see... somebody think that she is boring because of skills... oke then it would be REMAKE... and no skills are oke. just i will find sand theme and gg... and if u think that she is boring, then go play torturer and mass magic them...
btw here is sand PA ... is it good or something else maybe u wanna see?
port=hero with same skills
remake=hero with some old and some new skills
host made a port. u were saying smthing about shity skills and how the hero si boring. if u wnated a remake u could make yourown thread with that. i prefer direct port. thats why im defending this topic
vote no cos u were saving gold from the line, and in case u died u wouldnt loose anything. thats the reason it wasnt implemented in dota. and if u missclicked, think of the lose gold as punishment/burden/whatver
vote around 3 am this morning, didnt feel like writing anything. typing now there
@kiki he loosks liek magmus without a hammer
rather smthing like this (googled sand assassin)
we have already something like this... SCOUT... i dont wanna her 2 be like him...
Scout as Mortred .. u have to be kidding me
As i said, the whole idea of the PA new concept look should be something quick , and switft and cool looking , not something like Tiny or Pebles huge massive Stone that walks lol ... Either way . As i stated either a Sand type of Character or Something related to the Sun ... Since we have a moon hero night hero ... earth hero ... So sun could also be good ... i guess And yes mortred is good as it is perfectl balanced , all tho she only will need a new look since its HoN ..
*EDIT* Here is a link of something id like to see similar ... Quick, swift, Fast and good .. Also retared to the dunes and sands ...
NOTE* it doesnt even have to have a sword.. it can have something like a chain blade .. uknow something thats is like a blade but its long and as chain .. i dont know the name of that weapon ... to make it more original
Name something like : Rakddu, The Dune Crawler ... (I dont know if its a lame name but .. Exaple ))
Id also be glad to see this :
One more dune type .. but actually a Scorpion , we know there used to be sand king in Dota as socrpio , we all loved him , But wht if we had a better good looking scorpion design of phnatom assassin , like one of them desert black scorps .. Imagine that .. His Slow could be sort of a poison with his tail throw something like from slither but in different animation , which makes slow to enemies, then second blink skill Would be similar to Predators leap to enemy , something similar to that .. Thirds the blur , would be with the prevous sand cloud around him idea , like glowing cloud effect ,. And then the ulti Would perfectly fit the dmg and the looks and design ... I mean when u see that tail hit someone a crit with 1300 dmg wouldnt be verry funny What do you think ? I actually like this idea too :S
PA is alright, but there's a dozen other DotA heroes I'd rather see ported over first. She's just a boring auto attack here. The dagger/blink combo takes no real thought or planning (at least SA has to *try* to land his cloud in the right spot).