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[BrutalOne]

^tbh I'd rather pk, insan, and behemoth heart on hammer

there's really no need for crits cus he's one of the beefier carries than the rest and wins fights just cus he has so much HP

riftshards can work with any hero with carry ability and it wouldn't be too bad (doesn't synergize with his ult but ur doing crits and have +75 dmg fairly cheap with a easy buildup)

Exact the same build Im using, fast PK, shrunken head and late game Behe heart.

Uhm I don't know why it shouldnt increase the dmage while his ult is on.

Same reason U do not buy items with +dmg for him, U rather pick items with + STR like Behe Heart or Shrunken Head which are affected by his ult. His ult buffes only his "basic dmg" without +dmg modifiers.

[[NHRA]Meowshi]

You don't want Riftshards on hammerstorm. As BrutalOne said: PK, Shrunken Head, Behemoth's Heart

I'd like to add Helm of Rage and Insanitarious to those too. He has a ridiculously long list of items which are great on him. No room for riftshards.

[[LC]pk_thunder]

Uhm I don't know why it shouldnt increase the dmage while his ult is on.

his ult only amplifies his base dmg

[MichaelBurge]

his ult only amplifies his base dmg

Riftshards stacks with this base damage amplification. It's the closest thing you have to the old Puppet Master/Scout crit-stacking days. This makes Riftshards great on ,,,,,,, in terms of raw average damage on all boosted attacks. is sort of another candidate, but not really because he doesn't increase base damage.

Sure the raw damage on the Riftshards doesn't double-stack, but 75% stacking is good enough to beat out pretty much anything else except Doombringer + Riftshard.

If you're ever thinking to yourself, "My team can keep them slowed/stunned fine, I seem to have enough HP to get by in fights, can manage to not get stunned/slowed to a terrible degree, but we just can't seem to drop them before our initiation wears off", then Riftshards might be for you.

[[LC]pk_thunder]

Riftshards stacks with this base damage amplification. It's the closest thing you have to the old Puppet Master/Scout crit-stacking days. This makes Riftshards great on ,,,,,,, in terms of raw average damage on all boosted attacks. is sort of another candidate, but not really because he doesn't increase base damage.

Sure the raw damage on the Riftshards doesn't double-stack, but 75% stacking is good enough to beat out pretty much anything else except Doombringer + Riftshard.

If you're ever thinking to yourself, "My team can keep them slowed/stunned fine, I seem to have enough HP to get by in fights, can manage to not get stunned/slowed to a terrible degree, but we just can't seem to drop them before our initiation wears off", then Riftshards might be for you.

I'd grab a doombringer in that situation xD

[BrutalOne]

Riftshards stacks with this base damage amplification. It's the closest thing you have to the old Puppet Master/Scout crit-stacking days. This makes Riftshards great on ,,,,,,, in terms of raw average damage on all boosted attacks. is sort of another candidate, but not really because he doesn't increase base damage.

Sure the raw damage on the Riftshards doesn't double-stack, but 75% stacking is good enough to beat out pretty much anything else except Doombringer + Riftshard.

If you're ever thinking to yourself, "My team can keep them slowed/stunned fine, I seem to have enough HP to get by in fights, can manage to not get stunned/slowed to a terrible degree, but we just can't seem to drop them before our initiation wears off", then Riftshards might be for you.

Im sure that +dmg from riftshard doesnt stack with Hammers ult, so paying 2650 for 10/13/16/20% chance for 1.8/2.0/2.2/2.4x crit dmg, is it really worth the cost? I would rather go for Behe Heart that scales good with his ult and buffs his HP to top..
imho

[[NHRA]Meowshi]

Damage from riftshards DOES stack with his ult.


Lets assume Hammerstorm's Ultimate increases base damage by 200%. You are able to get two items: Item that gives +40 strength, or item that gives +60 damage.

As a strength hero, you naturally get +40 damage from the item with +40 strength. With his ultimate, your base damage is doubled, meaning your +40 strength item now increases damage by +80.

However, if you were to get the +60 damage item, it is not 'base' damage. This means with your ultimate, you still do +60 damage. Not +120.

Riftshards is pure, unadulterated, straight up damage. This means you'd be spending the money on damage which doesn't get doubled. That is why it's not a good choice on hammerstorm.

[MichaelBurge]

Riftshards is pure, unadulterated, straight up damage. This means you'd be spending the money on damage which doesn't get doubled. That is why it's not a good choice on hammerstorm.

Base damage items are less efficient than raw damage items. Sure, on base-damage-doubling heroes they're pretty good, but you don't have alot of options.

Besides strength steamboots, insanitarius, behemoth heart, there aren't really any good sources of raw strength. As a result, most of your strength comes "naturally" through levels and points in stats, so you're not really losing much by going Riftshards over a strength item.

I think you'd have a tough time arguing that stacking base damage is superior to Riftshards for pure damage. If you disagree, you should probably start a thread in the Mechanics forum rather than continue it here.

I'd grab a doombringer in that situation xD

Probably not on Hammerstorm. It's semi-ok on Dark Lady, Nighthound, Magebane(to some extent), Scout because they're such mobile heroes they can stay in the shadows and jump in when they have an overwhelming definite advantage. It might actually be decent on Sand Wraith now that I think about it, but I'm too scared to try that.

[edit]: I fully realize that the raw damage does not stack with Hammerstorm's ulti, and that a strength item would make the number that appears next to your hero portrait bigger. I still claim Riftshards give more damage.

[BrutalOne]

Damage from riftshards DOES stack with his ult.


Lets assume Hammerstorm's Ultimate increases base damage by 200%. You are able to get two items: Item that gives +40 strength, or item that gives +60 damage.

As a strength hero, you naturally get +40 damage from the item with +40 strength. With his ultimate, your base damage is doubled, meaning your +40 strength item now increases damage by +80.

However, if you were to get the +60 damage item, it is not 'base' damage. This means with your ultimate, you still do +60 damage. Not +120.

Riftshards is pure, unadulterated, straight up damage. This means you'd be spending the money on damage which doesn't get doubled. That is why it's not a good choice on hammerstorm.

Exactly what I was trying to say, but English isnt my 1st language so I expressed myself wrong. Rift does add dmg to Hammer but its not, lets say doubled, by his ult. So, as U said, prolly not the best item on him..

[[E]Tripwyr]

Riftshards is a good item for Hammerstorm, but quite simply other items are better. Portal Key, Shrunken Head, Behemoth's Heart, Insanitarious, etc. are all better items than Riftshards. They provide him with health and damage, rather than raw damage, which is important for a hero like Hammerstorm.

[spdn4cr]

Had a Fayde question. I've never used her and I have read the guides on her but am still uncertain about how her ult works. If you use her ult and the image gets killed are you then revealed or do you stay cloaked until the cloak cooldown ends? If pesty swarms you before you ult does the swarm stick with you or go to the image? Thanks!

[[NHRA]Meowshi]

Had a Fayde question. I've never used her and I have read the guides on her but am still uncertain about how her ult works. If you use her ult and the image gets killed are you then revealed or do you stay cloaked until the cloak cooldown ends? If pesty swarms you before you ult does the swarm stick with you or go to the image? Thanks!

This can be tested in practice mode.

1.If your image is killed, nothing happens. you are still invisible.
2.If you pesti swarms you and you invisi, the swarm sticks to you

[[AsLa]RedWrath5]

Sometimes while playing Always show health bars turns off. Is there a hotkey for turning it of and on? And if not, What is the reason it keeps turning off?

[[LC]pk_thunder]

Sometimes while playing Always show health bars turns off. Is there a hotkey for turning it of and on? And if not, What is the reason it keeps turning off?

I could never find the hotkeys for that

but you can do f6 and go to options then interface and it'll be the first checkbox option

[[E]Tripwyr]

Keybinding is apostrophe ( ' ).

[JarJar]

-If Fayde is in Reflection Mode and gets purged, will she be revealed afterwards? (say someone has dust, activates and manages to reveal Fayde for the time being)

-If you were transfigured. could you purge yourself from it? (ie sheepstick/ Pollywog's Morph)

-Vindicator's passive silence: Does it silence ONLY the opponent casting a spell, or more than one if they are in the AoE? (Hag casts Scream, teammates silenced for being in the area)

[[LC]pk_thunder]

-If Fayde is in Reflection Mode and gets purged, will she be revealed afterwards? (say someone has dust, activates and manages to reveal Fayde for the time being)

-If you were transfigured. could you purge yourself from it? (ie sheepstick/ Pollywog's Morph)

-Vindicator's passive silence: Does it silence ONLY the opponent casting a spell, or more than one if they are in the AoE? (Hag casts Scream, teammates silenced for being in the area)

1) http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...d.php?t=121925 says all stealth but the rune is unpurgable

2) http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...ad.php?t=27848 you are silenced and perplexed, so you can't

3) hero only

[Merkz]

How do I move an item from the stash to my inventory? At this point in the tutorial I can't move and it wont work with the two ways it gives you to move them.

[JarJar]

1) http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...d.php?t=121925 says all stealth but the rune is unpurgable

So would one be able to purge the movement buff from Fayde if you were able to reveal her? I think thats what I meant to ask.

[[NHRA]Meowshi]

Control right click

B --> Right click item in stash --> left click in your inventory