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[[Flag]Decency]

Rarely happens in AP because people who play AP don't give a ****. In SD/BD at 1700+ or so it gets somewhat common. In BP it's almost a given, and pretty much every 1800+ game has tri-lanes.

[Jeffroy]

I play 99% -SD and i rarely see tri-lanes in 1800+ pubs (on another account...).
In -BP, however, trilanes are pretty standart.
I'm playing on EU servers btw, I think trilanes are a bit more common in US pubs.

[Awesomer]

Hi, I'm a fairly new player to HoN, and I've come across this "Backdooring"-thing a few times in a couple of games. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but "backdooring" is considered a bad tactic amongst many and that it ruins the game, and that the players should follow an ethic which goes something like "Thou shalt not backdoor thy enemy.", and now I wonder, What is backdooring, actually? And why aren't we allowed to do so if the game mechanics allow it to happen?

In a few games I've played, there has been a single carry-hero which destroyed all the towers in a lane, most bot or top-lane whilst the enemy heroes are on the other side of the map, without killing or focusing the creeps. In every game, it was called a "backdooring". But in every game I've played, after a succesfull ganking from either of the teams, the ganking heroes start focusing the tower, without killing the enemy teams creeps standing by the tower. This is not called backdooring.

What is the difference between these two? In neither of these situations are the creeps focused, only the tower, yet one of them is unsportsmanlike and the other one is fully acknowledged?

And why hasn't there come a solution to it? I have one: Make the creeps have an aura which makes towers and buildings invulnerable whilst the tower/building is in range of this aura. Isn't that a fair solution?

If TL;DR:

Backdooring, why do you hate it, and where's the limit when someone is backdooring and someone isn't?

Sincerely

New HoNplayer

[Neru]

Hi, I'm a fairly new player to HoN, and I've come across this "Backdooring"-thing a few times in a couple of games. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but "backdooring" is considered a bad tactic amongst many and that it ruins the game, and that the players should follow an ethic which goes something like "Thou shalt not backdoor thy enemy.", and now I wonder, What is backdooring, actually? And why aren't we allowed to do so if the game mechanics allow it to happen?

In a few games I've played, there has been a single carry-hero which destroyed all the towers in a lane, most bot or top-lane whilst the enemy heroes are on the other side of the map, without killing or focusing the creeps. In every game, it was called a "backdooring". But in every game I've played, after a succesfull ganking from either of the teams, the ganking heroes start focusing the tower, without killing the enemy teams creeps standing by the tower. This is not called backdooring.

What is the difference between these two? In neither of these situations are the creeps focused, only the tower, yet one of them is unsportsmanlike and the other one is fully acknowledged?

And why hasn't there come a solution to it? I have one: Make the creeps have an aura which makes towers and buildings invulnerable whilst the tower/building is in range of this aura. Isn't that a fair solution?

If TL;DR:

Backdooring, why do you hate it, and where's the limit when someone is backdooring and someone isn't?

Sincerely

New HoNplayer

Backdooring is fine, it's only bad players who really complain about it since it's so easy to counter (135g TP). Most of the time backdooring is when a really fed carry on the losing team sneaks around and tries to finish the enemy base before the enemy can push into theirs. The only real backdooring problem (which doesn't work any more) is Nymphora teleporting a few select heroes into the enemy base then having them all teleport out if necessary.

Basically ignore people who complain about it, its a valid tactic which rarely works, and is more like an all-for-nothing way to end a game.

[[NSGC]GrandAlf]

How does the alt courier work?

[iRedeem]

Is there different ways to make steam boots?

[Dominare]

Is there different ways to make steam boots?

Yes, you can make it with :Marchers::GlovesOfTheSwift: and any one of the three +6 stat items: :ApprenticesRobe::BolsteringArmband::Fleetfeet:

This means you can make :Steamboots: entirely from the outpost, just like :EnhancedMarchers:

[crazysheep]

In a few games I've played, there has been a single carry-hero which destroyed all the towers in a lane, most bot or top-lane whilst the enemy heroes are on the other side of the map, without killing or focusing the creeps. In every game, it was called a "backdooring". But in every game I've played, after a succesfull ganking from either of the teams, the ganking heroes start focusing the tower, without killing the enemy teams creeps standing by the tower. This is not called backdooring.

What is the difference between these two? In neither of these situations are the creeps focused, only the tower, yet one of them is unsportsmanlike and the other one is fully acknowledged?

Wait a second... in the first situation you described, is it just a single hero trading hits with the tower and killing it? Or is it a single hero pushing with his entire creepwave, and then he lets his creeps fight the enemy creeps while he takes out the tower? AFAIK taking out base towers without creep support is backdooring, but taking out lane towers without creep support isn't backdooring.