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It's not your problem, it's the problem of the "ultra-passive" teammates that you find in pubs. If you get a good team, you will dominate with a strong, aggressive style.Originally Posted by Sunforger
@ OP, general things that you need for competitive play are:
* Strong lane control ability
* Good last-hit and denying ability
* The ability to play your hero to fit the role that it is designed for.
* The instinct and intuition to make good decisions that benefit your team that can only be gained by simply playing many games.
Find some teammates that you can work together and co-ordinate well with, and also it helps if you find a certain role or playstyle on your team that you play exceptionally well (e.g. You might find yourself extremely able playing ganking heroes).
1. Start playing good heroes. (I know don't troll alright?)
2. Buy wards if your hero is suited for it.
3. Always go pick last, pick the hero your team doesn't have.
4. Teamwork > anything.
5. Get a team and try a unique combo.
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Thank you for the excellent answer. I tried this method and it works wonders. For example, we take Magmus+Jereziah or Glacius+Swiftblade, kill opponents twice by level 4, and by level 5 they can only leech XP behind the tower.
It happens so rare in pubs I want to cry. It seems that in order to win pubs alone I have to change style like I did for DotA League - take some carry and farm for 40 mins, then rape.
If you're playing games below your actual level (Say your fair PSR should be 1800, but you're 1550 because you have a new account), you have to play heroes where your higher skill allows you to carry the game. Choose a carry and out-farm everyone for the lategame, or possibly an early game dominator that can feed off weak opponents and rule the mid-game.
If you're playing games closer to your true level, you won't be as dominant anymore. Now's the time to choose what the team really needs, and trust your teammates to do their jobs as well.
Want to play competitive? Buy bottle + courier.
Take mid lane, keep your courier near the tower or in forest.
Nuke your enemy 24/7 with your spells and use your courier to fill your bottle! Yey your competitive uhm erm or annoying hehe.
- Proficient at last hitting
- Become familiar with neutral pulling. Know how to pull, how fast to kill the neutral camp to continue pulling. Know why neutral pulling is advantageous.
- Advanced ward placement (most dota players are largely ignorant of proper ward placement, missing subtle but important differences in warding).
- Hero knowledge, you should be aware of every skill on every hero and how it functions. Damage type, range, mana cost, stun duration, slow% etc.
- Have comprehensive knowledge on why heroes are picked and what roles they play on a competitive team.
- Be aware of proper item builds and be fluid enough in this builds to adapt to in game circumstance.
- Map control, know why its important and how to maximize its effect
- Reading the mini map. This includes both building a good habit so checking the mini map constantly is interiorized. As well being able to guess with great accuracy where every opposing hero is despite not having current vision on them.
- Understanding lexicon
- Comprehensive understanding of advanced strategy (dual pushiing, pressuring, team building, etc)
Remember this is primarily a strategy game, not a tactical game.
What they said, oh and you are good enough when your name isn't Feios also =).
Last hitting is key, teamwork is crucial in this game. You have to have the right positioning as well.
The way to know if your competent in competitive play or not is to play high skill leveled games to test you limits as a player (all players with 1800-1900 PSR or versus 5 competitent friends). If you do well in those games you have what it takes. If you feed and are completely clueless you need to develop more familiarty w/ the game or more skill/focus. And all competitive players DOMINATE pub scrubs. So when you reach that level, you've got what it takes.
BTW, you also need to know the right people to get on a top tiered team. So you're play needs to be so good you get recognized.
a good team? n**** please
just look for a low-skilled team and start to play funwars/clanwars with them. this is the one and only way to improve your skills on a competitive level.
you learn so many things in wars that you can never learn in pubs:
- warding / anti warding
- map awareness/ initiate ganks / tp scroll defense ( one or two get ganked at a tower and the rest of the team tps to this tower immediately)
- teamfights/combos
- picking /banning
- lane combos
- team mixed of caster/supporter/tank/damagedealer, not in pubs where i see 5 melee agi heroes in a team, jesus christ gimme a break
- several strategies like push, gank etc.
dont listen to the other guys here who tell you how to neutral pull, lasthit or having a good psr. lol.
get a clan and this will come automatically. your mates will tell you what to do and they will mentor you, not some guys in a forum...
after an uncertain amount of time you will realise yourself if you made the step to be midskilled, with or without the team. then you can move on and probably look for a new team or keep playing with them.
its like everywhere in life. take every step of the ladder one by one.
tl. dr. :
stop playing pubs and find a clan
Last edited by k1nGs0n; 08-28-2009 at 07:55 PM.
my personal suggestion - go download garena for dota (www.garena.com)
then go into the europe servers and go into one of the clan war rooms. lots of people there look for extra players (even tho its techincally illegal). join a game there, probably mid or high skilled, and then see how you do.
if you can hang with a team that works together like a team, and does wards/courier and all that jazz, then consider trying to get a team together for hon. if you cant do it on dota, you most certainly wont be able to do it on hon.
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