Static grip going through Shrunken head and repel and or any other ability that makes you magic immune is quite frankly ridiculous. He has fiends grip as a regular ability. Needs some looking at TBH
Eletrician is fine, cleansing shock would be completly worthless if it didn't work against BKB.
Notice a majority of the balance discussions calling imba are about HoN created heroes and poor DotA ports.
Electrician doesn't even need a discussion, if old Medusa had Fiend's Grip as a regular low CD skill, no one would even bother to argue either.
Seriously, HoN, who creates these heroes? Why don't you go ahead and give us Astral Trekker? Might as well right?
Static Grip isn't an ult. Oh, you also didn't mention that it costs almost no mana, has a short cooldown, and does AoE damage.
Obviously AoE disables like Black Hole work through Repel. However, S2 failed to code in targeted ultimates ALWAYS being able to click through these units because it's hardcoded in the Warcraft Engine that way and is a major balancing factor of Repel.
In fact, the only heroes who's targeted ultimates Repel and Avatar render completely ineffective are Sniper, Lina, Lion, BS, Furion (only against that hero), and Pugna.
Here are the DotA heroes with targetable ultimates that are still effective through Repel and BKB:
Now if Repel and Avatar didn't allow any of these hero's ultimates to target them, can you honestly say that wouldn't make the skills OP?
I'm pretty sure, when you were typing your response the only thing you thought of was omg lolz lina ult blockz. Please, think before you respond.
To be honest, I misread your post and thought you said that in HoN targeted ultimates could go through BkB.
With that said, I still dont understand how you prove your point at all.
First off you are mad that grip goes through BkB, and then you prove your point by saying that in HoN its not all targeted ultimates that can hit BkB ?!? wtf.. 2 totally different issues.
Last edited by TurpinoS; 08-20-2009 at 03:46 PM.
In DotA, Repel and Avatar do not prevent targeted ultimates from targeting said unit.
In HoN, Charm and Shrunken Head do prevent targeted ultimates from targeting said unit, while not preventing regular skills like Grip.
Conclusion, charm and Shrunken Head are poorly ported from DotA and more powerful than they should be because Icefrog designed the durations around DotA mechanics.
WHAT THE **** DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH STATIC GRIP ? I know its an non-ultimate spell, but what you just showed doesnt prove **** towards the fact that Static Grip is overpowered because it goes through BKB.
Rhasta has approx the same skill except it's balanced for Rhasta because his movespeed and str gain are crap. He can get it off in an initiation if he buys phase boots, but then that hurts his hp, making it easy for the other team to focus him. Electrician has a tanking skill in mana shield, in addition to a better str gain, AND better movespeed. putting rhasta shackles on a fast tank is too strong.
except rhasta shackles dont go through bkb and repel :/ they need to fix this ~_~ and or lower the duration of static grip so it does not last as long
oh btw, you can't stun electrician off of his grip. So, if you're gonna be stunned by his huge range and permanent 4.75 stun... you better hope your teammates can do without you.
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