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Just curious what both competitive and above average puggers think their build is going to be on Swift after his spin nerf and overall carry nerfs. I certainly think they were all justified, but that's another topic.
I figure I'll probably go something like
Ghost marchers -> Runed Axe -> Elder Parasite -> Wingbow -> Daemonic
I can't decide if getting the Daemonic before the Wingbow is a better choice, +55 IAS and +15 armor for you, +5 armor and +15 IAS for all your mates, and -5 armor to all your enemies seems like it'd be better overall for clashes than a wingbow so long as they have a few physical damage dealers and you have some other physical damage dealer other than just yourself. Also, daemonic ought to have slightly better synergy with Counter Attack than Wingbow does, since if you evade I don't think you counter attack--though obviously evading an attack completely and not countering it is probably preferable to reducing the damage on an incoming attack and then countering it.
Also, before people rant and rave about how Elder Parasite is the worst item ever on swift, just remember that you can activate it during the ult and then spin afterwards to completely negate any negative effect it might have. That being said, Whispering Helm obviously has its merits, likewise with Abyssal Skull I suppose.
Anyway, just curious what pros/good amateurs think about a good build for him after the changes.
Last edited by RLutz; 04-28-2010 at 12:24 AM.
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ghost marcher->runed axe->staff of master->sheildbreaker->wingbow-> daemonic
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It's true you can activate Elder to get a few extra attacks in Ult and cancel it afterwards with spin, but it's not worth 1900 gold for a bit extra damage in ult every 2 minutes.
Elder now also takes up your orb slot. 1900 gold is a little less than halfway to Shieldbreaker, which gives you a ton of damage and also increased ult damage because ult is physical.
Not too sure. Frostburn is pretty terrible now.
I'd prob do an all out dps build and go ghost marchers runed axe shieldbreaker wingbow.
Really relies on an ideal ult to do the majority of the damage so that you can clean up easily.
But yea these two nerfs combined are pretty harsh.
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That item build is...pretty bad.
Ghost Marchers --> B Fury --> Shieldbreaker --> Whatever
GET A REFRESHER ORB AND A STAFF, YOUR GONNA ULT TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!
or, you can always go steamboots-battlefurry-breaker-whatever
i used to go frostburn becore the breaker, but with the update, i didn t test it so im not putting it
Runed, Shieldbreaker, wingbow...back to the old build. WTF they mess w/my item? Doesn't really bother me except w/cd...I built it on him no matter what.
runed axe->steamboots->shieldbreaker->abysall skull->charged hammer.
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