@point1. Well you heard wrong, I left of my own accord. So I'm unsure where you heard that, care to enlighten us? I have complete logs and fairly sure that people within Honcast will know that I left of my own free will after not wanting to be awake at 2-5am casting games and wanted to cast during decent times if I did cast which is why I made the switch to GR - far more laid back and they appreciate what I do.
@point2. It's always a good idea to actually speak up and try and get something improved for the better rather than sit silently and then slam it afterwards.
We understand that our tournaments aren't perfect, if you have any suggestions I'm sure you can PM one of our Referees/Admins/Owners about any problems you had and we could try to fix it. But this isn't what this thread is about.
If Honcast does it better than GR, they should get the "prime" slot. Anyone suggesting that Honcast should simply pick a new day for their tournament should listen to their own advice: if GR tournaments are relatively unattended on Sundays (because everyone's playing in the Honcast tournaments), they should pick a new day. On the other hand if Honcast's tournament ends up being a flop, they will pick a new day as well.
Ultimately GR has had a humongous amount of time to get their act together and the fact that they're still posting their VoDs through YouTube links on their forums is just shameful. Not to mention all the drama with their completely unprofessional and downright rude/offensive shoutcasters and time delays...
During any bracketed tournament in HoN it takes a minimum of 5 hours to complete. What you're talking about isn't a tournament, it's a league. And its exactly how TFL was run. The problem is you can't do that kind of setup with HoN because there are no divisions. You can't rely on win/loss records to dictate who your top 8 teams are because of tied records. You could take the top 8 teams in any division in TFL because there were, at max, 16 or so teams. But imagine if there was 1 division with 64 teams in it and you were relying solely on win/loss records to decide your top 8 teams. What if every week you had to play the same opponents and always lost and ended up with a worse record than some team who played crap opponents all the time. That's why TFL Pro never took off as well as why there were always a ton of disputes when clans would climb the rankings on konspiracy because they started in 4a and raped every team they played against until they reached 1a (like MoC)
I don't really have an opinion on the tournament other than I'm looking forward to casting it and I really look forward to weeks 7 and 8 and seeing some of the underestimated talent once the big dogs are in.
I Support Sunday tournaments, as i work mon-thur & sat 1pm-10pm Central. So yeah sunday ftw.
I'm only going to post b/c I feel obligated to defend GR to some extent.
I wasn't thrilled with how GR was run for the most part because I didn't enjoy having to devote every Sunday to a GR tourney. However, GR was one of the first organizations to devote resources to covering HoN. So I can't pass too much judgment on them, since they helped promote the competitive aspect of HoN and help put it where it is today.
If Honcast's tournament ends up affecting GR, then that would be an unfortunate but inevitable aspect of business competition. We should all still be thankful for everything GR did for competitive HoN, despite what happens in the future.
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Sigh you guys are all so nerdy posting wah wah comments. TOURNAMENTS SUCK RIGHT NOW. It's true. One of the only good ones is CyberGamer, because the admins and site are AMAZING.
Two companies fighting over Sundays = better quality and more prize money, the same way the world works. If no one is competing with GR, they can slack on prize money and quality (which they have). Seriously, I don't care about any of this Hc vs GR baby **** and neither should you, the bottom line is competition is good. Monopoly.. even oligarchy is bad, just like almost every tournament so far.
I LIVE IN AMERICA *****, the country that was founded on the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Native Americans. Just because they were here first doesn't mean they got to stay.
It's pretty sad to see how this topic has derailed into a GR vs HCT fight between the members. Sure there are some people that like GR more than HCT and then others that like HCT more than GR, but I'm sure we staff members from both sides don't see ourselves in that possition. Competition is always good even if it means "who will come out more successful". Just please stop comparing us to eachother because that will only fuel fights among the community.
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All I know is GR has not been satisfying and they havn't been stepping up in months, so I'm cheering for honcast on this one.
If you had negative feedback to give GR, why didn't you give us the feedback? We accept that there are things we could do better, and we'd love to hear them.
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Wait, people are still QQ'ing about this? GR does not own the Sunday slot, that's what it boils down to. Stop whining and let the teams decide.
GR actually made a very smart move with the Youtube player, it's much better and way better quality than what Honcast has. You can't beat the quality of html5 HD casts (It's seriously impossible at the current stage of flash based video players)
But on a serious note.. TLSHADOW TYPECAST>H0NS&OBI>HONCAST=GR