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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Nub View Post
    I see the same 6 heroes banned every matchmaking that i do: chronos, zephyr, tempest, jerry, hellbringer, and plague.

    If you have the first ban, that means that you get the first pick, so try and keep one of those "OP" heroes unbanned for your team to get. I see a lot of people that don't even bother with this. Its always nice to have a tempest on your team.

    How do you do this? Ban 2 of the traditional bans, but ban someone else for your third one. The other team's banner will have to choose between the one that you didnt ban and the one that he was suppose to ban anyways, therefore you get the one that was left over.

    Banner 1: jerry
    Banner 2: hellbringer
    Banner 1: plague
    Banner 2: chronos
    tempest/zephyr still up
    Banner 1: blood hunter? random
    Banner 2: zephyr

    tempest still up
    All nice and good your doing it wrong. You need to ban the characters that gimp teams, wildsoul instaban both teams win noone can pick him when asked for a carry. Ban soulstealer you save so much cries, when you get a SS with 20 kills and realise that he cant carry for **** past 20 mins, ban warbeast omg you where in the jungle for 20 minutes and you have boots... Those are the good bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klama View Post
    All nice and good your doing it wrong. You need to ban the characters that gimp teams, wildsoul instaban both teams win noone can pick him when asked for a carry. Ban soulstealer you save so much cries, when you get a SS with 20 kills and realise that he cant carry for **** past 20 mins, ban warbeast omg you where in the jungle for 20 minutes and you have boots... Those are the good bans.
    Don't ban heroes like Wildsoul or War Beast lol.. horrible bans.

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    He got a pretty good point. If you ban , your Games will probably be much more entertaining.

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    No matter what anyone tells you, Tempest is still an absurdly powerful hero. Great jungling abilities + great early game ganking abilities + low item dependence (portal key + shruken head are the only necessities) + great pushing power + great farming power (can multi-task with elementals when there aren't any fights going on).

    Oh, and then there's the ult... that beautiful, beautiful ult. People here are mentioning something about keeping a stunning hero back to cancel tempest's ult... that will not work if tempest gets a shrunken head (which is something that every tempest should do). And tempest doesn't have problems farming up items like shrunken heads or bunches of observer wards (since tempest is low item dependence + high farming power).

    All in all, tempest rocks. Though Fayde will probably own him hard in the next few months...
    Quote Originally Posted by glatheros View Post
    you make a probability calculation, yet you try to state it as a "will" or "must", down to the basic, there is no difference between %1 chance and %50 chance, in its core there is always %50 chance of something happening, because there is always the equal chance of it not happening. nice math, but doesn't show what will happen. its just might, so please stop advertising it as an absolute mediocre of future fortelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaushal View Post
    No matter what anyone tells you, Tempest is still an absurdly powerful hero. Great jungling abilities + great early game ganking abilities + low item dependence (portal key + shruken head are the only necessities) + great pushing power + great farming power (can multi-task with elementals when there aren't any fights going on).

    Oh, and then there's the ult... that beautiful, beautiful ult. People here are mentioning something about keeping a stunning hero back to cancel tempest's ult... that will not work if tempest gets a shrunken head (which is something that every tempest should do). And tempest doesn't have problems farming up items like shrunken heads or bunches of observer wards (since tempest is low item dependence + high farming power).

    All in all, tempest rocks. Though Fayde will probably own him hard in the next few months...
    Tempest is decent but no where near "absurdly powerful." Good teams will have a hard counter or push staff (Goes through bkb gg temp), and with decent position temp ult can't really catch that many people. Sure in pubs where morons feel the need to circle jerk every push he seems OP, but against decent teams, that ult will be cancelled nearly every time. Again, tempest's viability is solely based on positioning. She can drastically impact a team fight, but requires solid initiation, flawless timing, and opponents having poor positioning to really be effective. Assuming her ult is canceled, which it very often is, you are stuck with a hero with a decent stun, but virtually no team fight dps. Good pusher though.

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    After 1.66 everyone got so used to banning chronos that it somehow became a habbit.
    Even though he's nothing like back then.
    Also no one wants to play him anyways, he's boring now.
    Pre 1.66 Chronos was alot fun, 1.66 Chronos was OP and now he's just boring and uninteresting.
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