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    1500 psr - always stuck on the noob team

    I have 1500 mm psr which could be 1600+ easily if MM didn't always put me on the noob team. Last game really pissed me off, I had soulstealer and went mid, just to have a noob behemoth, that thinks hes all pro following me mid. I told him he should go bot and I have the most profit out of a solo lane, but he responded: I want more gold and exp too.... Not to mention my team stealing runes in front of me while I got bottle -.- 80% of the games are like this. I'm the onlyone with a positive k/d. AND NOT TO MENTION AT LEAST 1 LEAVER EVERY GAME ON MY SIDE. There's more leavers in MM than in pub. And being on these teams makes me want to leave too. Since it's just 1 hour wasted. I then just put my game on afk and go play another game, since u can't even leave if 2/5 dcd :S
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    Theres already a thread about this and how to win.
    It's a very luck based game at the 1500 SMR, as I know (being about 149X SMR and 176X PSR).
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    I'm really bad at losing on purpose. I just can't do it.

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    Where can I find that how to win stuff? Last game I had a 0 kills 11 deaths lvl 5 scout on my team when the rest of the people were lvl ~15. I don't think it was possible to win. It was 2-26, we lost our racks at the 15th minute... Should I find a clan or something?

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    Tips on how to win
    Clan's wouldn't help in matchmaking since its random solo selection. If you're team was 2-26 then it was more than just Scout losing for you. It's luck mainly, but if you're really a good player you can turn the tide quite well.
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    I'm really bad at losing on purpose. I just can't do it.

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    pick semi carries or gankers and actively lead your team to victory. If you are continously losing it's likely because you are the noob; I should know since I am one.

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    Solo mid with Swiftblade and outskill the opposition. Just make sure to scream at your team to buy wards +chick.

    If you're lucky you can even coerce someone into buying blights for you.
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    Mid with ranged semi-carrys, you have the most flexibility there because you have the most lane control from the start, you can be ganking early and transform into a carry late game if it goes that far, either way you're gonna have to lead your team to victory with the most influence possible on the game by your self.

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    Just BACKDOOR the whole game ;D

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    Pick Corrupted Disciple
    Unleash the kraken
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    A sufficiently pro player turns the tide despite noobs on both teams. You have to pick a hero who can single-handedly turn the tide of the game without expecting support from your allies. A mid-solo capable ganker/carry is relevant all game and can be awesome despite bad teammates, and take advantage of the bads on the other team.

    Another strategy is to look at the stats of the people on your team before picking begins. Identify someone with a good PSR, CS and k/d/a and a low EM %. Tell him to pick a carry that needs a babysit (TDL, Chronos, etc) and pick Demented Shaman or some other boss babysitter. Take the safe lane, buy courier and wards and support him to victory. This of course only works if someone on your team besides yourself is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinghand View Post
    A sufficiently pro player turns the tide despite noobs on both teams. You have to pick a hero who can single-handedly turn the tide of the game without expecting support from your allies. A mid-solo capable ganker/carry is relevant all game and can be awesome despite bad teammates, and take advantage of the bads on the other team.

    Another strategy is to look at the stats of the people on your team before picking begins. Identify someone with a good PSR, CS and k/d/a and a low EM %. Tell him to pick a carry that needs a babysit (TDL, Chronos, etc) and pick Demented Shaman or some other boss babysitter. Take the safe lane, buy courier and wards and support him to victory. This of course only works if someone on your team besides yourself is good.

    ^this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinghand View Post
    Another strategy is to look at the stats of the people on your team before picking begins. Identify someone with a good PSR, CS and k/d/a and a low EM %. Tell him to pick a carry that needs a babysit (TDL, Chronos, etc) and pick Demented Shaman or some other boss babysitter. Take the safe lane, buy courier and wards and support him to victory. This of course only works if someone on your team besides yourself is good.
    I've used this tactic with great success. 1804 rating using DSham in 90% of the games (sometimes he get banned or the other team pick him first :< ) proves that not only is it a valid tactic, but I've pretty much mastered playing this hero as well.
    You have more then 5% EM games, your argument is invalid.

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    And sometimes babysitting the noob to prevent unintentional feeding helps too, at least if he's actually trying his best.

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    there's no such thing as bad luck in the long run... so if your not bad don't worry

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    Which could be 1600+ easily? Ya right. I was up at 1700 despite lower than 50% win rate, always being tagged along retards. Sure, it dropped to 1560 from 1780 because once you go up there, and play without friends, retarded allies get even worse (This was before stat reset back in October(?)). You have 0.8 kd. I dont see how you always have positive KD.

    Except yeah, you probably could get into 1600 if you lead your team well, because people suck so much now days that it seems most 1600s are below 1 kd.

    Stop blaming people for your losses. Try that even if it wasnt actually your fault. If you do, you will learn how to lead the team to victory despite having bad people on your team.

    One last thing, when you have several hundred games down, its kinda hard to say you just got unlucky.
    Last edited by the343danny; 04-18-2010 at 03:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravion View Post
    I have 1500 mm psr which could be 1600+ easily if MM didn't always put me on the noob team. Last game really pissed me off, I had soulstealer and went mid, just to have a noob behemoth, that thinks hes all pro following me mid. I told him he should go bot and I have the most profit out of a solo lane, but he responded: I want more gold and exp too.... Not to mention my team stealing runes in front of me while I got bottle -.- 80% of the games are like this. I'm the onlyone with a positive k/d. AND NOT TO MENTION AT LEAST 1 LEAVER EVERY GAME ON MY SIDE. There's more leavers in MM than in pub. And being on these teams makes me want to leave too. Since it's just 1 hour wasted. I then just put my game on afk and go play another game, since u can't even leave if 2/5 dcd :S
    Are you always the best player in those games ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeHorse View Post
    Solo mid with Swiftblade and outskill the opposition. Just make sure to scream at your team to buy wards +chick.

    If you're lucky you can even coerce someone into buying blights for you.
    Stop telling people to do this, it's a terrible idea. Admittedly I tried it vs. WS, which probably didn't help, but even so this is a baaaaad idea.

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    I've gotta agree mid Swiftblade is only going to work well below 1500 (like 1300-1400) because its a massive luck chance around the 1500 SMR levels that you'll get a complete noob or a 1700 unlucky fella.
    Quote Originally Posted by chu View Post
    I'm really bad at losing on purpose. I just can't do it.

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    Ontopic:I highly doubt every game you get paired up with the retards, I suggest picking semi-carries in the 1500-1600 range and solo mid, you can easily win the game if you're good enough (Out Csing, possibly getting bloodlust, ganking lanes often)
    Offtopic:How is it possible to get to 1700+With ~40% win rate? Is it by winning more games where the win % is in favor of the other team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinghand View Post
    A sufficiently pro player turns the tide despite noobs on both teams.
    Its true to an extent, but you are not going to be able to single handily go against 5 others in the same lane and win. You need some of your bad team mates to come along to be distractions at the very least.
    Last edited by PerfectBlue; 04-18-2010 at 12:17 PM.

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