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- The Bucket Challenge I -

Welcome
This is the an exercise for people in the Hero Ideas section that
encourages creativity with a small amount of structured input,
often revolving about a concept and trying to achieve a certain purpouse.
Your objective is to create a hero/abilities that fits the challenge shown,
and/or provide structured Information about the concept described in the challenge
using your knowledge about the game. Don't be shy, just be creative!

Are you Ready?

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Rules

Unlimited entries since it is an exercise, but remember Quality is better than Quantity, especially for heroes.
Please be gentle, be wise, and grant constructive feedback, on other people heroes, skills and ideas.
There's no real Deadline in the Challenge, and even if you have few core skills don't hesitate to post them.
No need for putting a certain tag before the topic of your hero, just give link of your heroes in this thread.
You can provide like of old heroes your created as long as the fit the Challenge.

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Challenge
- Counter Pick Me -
Starring :arma:

WHY CAN'T HE FEEL THE PAIN. . .?

I think everyone has ever met those kind of Immortal heroes with tons of Health?
Time for a Revenge, bring a bit of Anti-Tanking to the Game.

Create a hero which is a great counter pick against :arma:, :cthu: and/or :krak: (or CC Tanks in general), good against a team containing one of them.
Your hero, isn't recommended to be a carry or a tank hero, a support would be more liked, even if it isn't mendatory.
Your hero, should be original, a viable pick, useful in a set without those hero to counter but not Overpowered.

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Create some core abilities or combo of abilities, which role is to be Anti-Tank.
Don't hesitate to produce a lot of viable abilities.

OR/AND

Help to gather information about Anti-Tanking.
--- What is a Tanker?
--- What is an Anti-Tank?
--- Which kind of skills are considered Anti-Tank?
--- Which kind of concept could be used to produce Anti-Tank skills?
--- Heroes already In-Game with Anti-Tank skills?

Bucket Of Data

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- What is a Tanker?

- What is an Anti-Tank?

- Which kind of skills are considered Anti-Tank?

Drasha's Wise Advise:

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The primary issue I see when people make anti tank skills is that while they are strong against tanks they are generally much stronger against heroes who are not tanky. For example take pestilences ult it is good at reducing armor but the armor reduction is better used against some one with 15 armor then 20 because you want to get the target to 0 armor at which point you do the most amount of damage. You also have heroes like predator whose passive in theory hurts tanks but in practice its best against low health targets with low armor.

When designing an anti tank skill it needs to be more effective when used on a hero who is harder to kill and less effective when used on a hero with jack all for health and armor.

- Which kind of concept could be used to produce Anti-Tank skills?
- Health Missing based Abilities
- Health Max based Abilities
- Armor based Abilities (interact with Agi but works...)
- Enemy STR attribute based Abilities (Primary Attribute)
- Health Regeneration based Ability
- ...

- Heroes already In-Game with Anti-Tank skills?