View Full Version : Strength Hero Contest Poll
SirGallagher
04-08-2010, 06:26 PM
[QUOTE=GoddamnHam;1362443
Seriously. A Magic Armor de-buff aura that targets hard agi carries. Maybe make it so random noob teams think twice before picking a fistfull of carries.[/QUOTE]
Why does everyone love AGI carries? Play non EM games - then it's balanced.
Its tough to get an idea of the heores without the theme and all that... i've read Hero 4 like 4 times and still dont think I get it...
GrizmoBlust
04-08-2010, 06:29 PM
Hero 4 is the best by far.
Very unique.
Fukofski
04-08-2010, 06:48 PM
http://www.latte.ca/pics/2006/0703/03-w-sickSadBaby.jpgI CRY AT YOUR HORRIBLE SUGGESTIONS
Its tough to get an idea of the heores without the theme and all that... i've read Hero 4 like 4 times and still dont think I get it...
From the way I see it, Hero 4 comes with a passive Gadget that floats 100 units in front of him, I think either free of charge or with ability 1. His abilities (with the exception of his aura) are manipulating this Gadget into hitting things. Its another Skill shot hero like Valk or Devourer, except he can do even more stuff.
BLAMO
04-08-2010, 07:05 PM
From the way I see it, hero 4 is an intelligence hero with an identity crisis/wants to get into the game too badly crisis.
isard
04-08-2010, 07:16 PM
hum... am i understanding it not right or can hero 4 only use his skills after he casted his ulti oO?
i guess not^^
Hero 4 sounds too gimmicky in my opinion. I realize a lot of people like that but I'm not really sure he fits into a competitive meta game in any way. I personally feel hero 1 has gotten some overkill on it's ability's and while hero 2 is interesting it just feels like a cluster**** of to many ability's from different heroes in a way which I personally rather dislike of it. So therefore I ended up going for hero 3.
I now care more about the time restraints than the winner :P
Drunoctis
04-08-2010, 07:59 PM
3rd one GMV..
Dunno why but i like it moar. :)
:krak:
Atticus
04-08-2010, 08:07 PM
I now care more about the time restraints than the winner :P
What he said!
sQuibba
04-08-2010, 08:28 PM
hero 1 would be so awesome with all the mobility. needs to be some awesome ninja leaping around
though i like 2 and 4 as well
GODAMNIT
pro_Noun
04-08-2010, 08:37 PM
I want deceiver
Yeah.. so do I
hero 1 would be so awesome with all the mobility. needs to be some awesome ninja leaping around
though i like 2 and 4 as well
GODAMNIT
strength ninja
Pikachewy
04-08-2010, 08:47 PM
strength ninja
I lold
Stalias
04-08-2010, 09:13 PM
1 developer and two moderators voted for Hero 4.
2 developers, 6 moderators, and 1 global moderator voted for Hero 1.
Intriguing...
What he said!
I trust S2 judgement so i dont mind that my heroes were very likely rejected on these grounds. But i would love to know what this grounds were :D i hope they allow all the other heroes a second chance when they have time.
flibble
04-08-2010, 10:15 PM
I like some of the skills of the second hero especially the ganker/chaser role that it fills. Would be awesome to play early game and totally rape while also having some team presence with your knockback and aoe ultimate while picking up the stragglers or attaching a tether to :mage: as he tries to blink away :D
after that I would have probably voted for 1
ShredderIV
04-08-2010, 10:39 PM
Hero 1 seriously seems like the best. Currently one of the things HON is lacking other than behemoth is trapping spells. They change the whole way the game is played. Especially if they want a new ganker, I don't think hero 4 is the way to go.
Hero 1 could seriously **** some **** up. Pretty much, he can control everything about the opponents movement, and WOULD take skill to place his stuff right, as opposed to aiming skills, which have already been implemented largely in HON.
We need more skill outside of aiming long shots!
Vodka
04-08-2010, 10:45 PM
I voted hero 1 because he lets me smash people into walls. Think how awesome he would be to play, and above all, how cool it would be for spectators who want to watch HoN and see this guy and are all like "holy crap this game is awesome!"
SirGallagher
04-08-2010, 11:58 PM
I voted hero 1 because he lets me smash people into walls.
Hero 3 can do the same thing - Ult or Skill 2+ Skill 1 = smash people into wall.
Wall bashing is the coolest.
KillPoint
04-08-2010, 11:58 PM
4 :D
FUG1T1VE
04-09-2010, 12:16 AM
that's what I'm thinking too...
that crossed my mind as well. i personally like hero 3.
Greyden
04-09-2010, 12:48 AM
voted on 1 , for the underdog of the two that are winning lol
RaindogGJPII
04-09-2010, 01:00 AM
I really hope hero #1 pulls in some more votes. Hero #4 is so gimmicky. Besides, any theme applied to hero #1 would probably be way cooler than #4.
Hero #1 wrecks faces, hero #4 has a little toy it tosses around.
RaindogGJPII
04-09-2010, 01:02 AM
Also, BreakyCPK voted for hero #1! Woo Breaky!
ShredderIV
04-09-2010, 01:32 AM
Yeah, if you look at the votes, hero one has waaaaaaay more votes from people of importance.
OFC, hero 4 will probably win because it's gimmicky. People are like "omgz, i can shoot a thing and bounce it dood ill rape face wit dis," but they don't seem to see the competitive viability of the first hero, and the skill it will take to play him.
No insult to the creators, they're all awesome ideas, but many people will just vote for a gimmick, which I don't really like.
Vodka
04-09-2010, 02:03 AM
Personally, I think that while #4 is trying something unique, it will feel wonky and I have no idea how you can incorporate the whole movable gadget concept with a str hero. It sounds like more of an int thing to do. I mean, #1 is like the definition of a strength hero who just pushes people around, not some gadget-waving sorcerer wannabe. And watching him throw things into walls will be much more fun than watching some weird gadget mechanics that will likely be non-transparent.
Vanarchy
04-09-2010, 04:32 AM
Personally, I think that while #4 is trying something unique, it will feel wonky and I have no idea how you can incorporate the whole movable gadget concept with a str hero. It sounds like more of an int thing to do. I mean, #1 is like the definition of a strength hero who just pushes people around, not some gadget-waving sorcerer wannabe. And watching him throw things into walls will be much more fun than watching some weird gadget mechanics that will likely be non-transparent.
That's why absence of the hero theme sucks donkey balls. Skills do not have a concrete visual representation, without knowing what the "gadget" can look like, without having the logical basis of this variant of concept most skills seem out of place.
Carnade
04-09-2010, 04:55 AM
Personally, I think that while #4 is trying something unique, it will feel wonky and I have no idea how you can incorporate the whole movable gadget concept with a str hero. It sounds like more of an int thing to do. I mean, #1 is like the definition of a strength hero who just pushes people around, not some gadget-waving sorcerer wannabe. And watching him throw things into walls will be much more fun than watching some weird gadget mechanics that will likely be non-transparent.
This was my biggest beef as well when just reading the skills. The theme could make it fit but when just looking at the skills it feels like a INT hero.
On a sidenote.... Personally I think it would be sweet if these competitions continue so in the end they have added 2 int, 2str and 2 agi, one of each faction in the end :)
Ryper7
04-09-2010, 05:48 AM
honestly, if you ditched the horrible wall ulti from hero 1 i would have voted for it. but because of that, no i dont want it.
Thalion
04-09-2010, 06:42 AM
Hero 4 ftw.
Tho hero 1 is okay aswell.
Mewtwo
04-09-2010, 07:08 AM
Hero 4 just for the -magic armor based off your agility. Anti magic armor is a-ok by me.
Oh yeah and he has 3 other skills!
Proxymate
04-09-2010, 07:25 AM
well 2 and 3 are out of the contest.
Skyve
04-09-2010, 07:59 AM
well 2 and 3 are out of the contest.
Not totally, considering there's ~50k Players. So it would still be possible for them to win, though it's unlikely.
Techies
04-09-2010, 08:03 AM
Hero 4 looks like fun, Devourer meets Pharaoh.
xarun1
04-09-2010, 08:42 AM
Can the gadget of heroe 4 somehow die or get smashed?
Btw dont like a strength heroe who is not fighting himself, but sending some gadget to fight
pHetHH
04-09-2010, 09:22 AM
Hero 4 sounds like a lot of fun :)
give it the turtle style and as gadget it should throw his turtle shell (make the rest of the turtle look pretty weak sneaky and ugly :-P)
DarkBullet
04-09-2010, 09:24 AM
I the biggest problem i have with Hero 1, is hes got so many movey spells. None of them are stationary!
Hero 2 has Rampages bash(stronger).
Hero 3 has two leaps and is still bland, although i kinda like that STR buffer
Hero 4 almost completly revolves around that gadget.
Ripoff
04-09-2010, 09:25 AM
I just read the title for nr 2, thought it sounded boring, and voted for nr 2, but then I read nr 4 again, and now I regret :<
But those who vote for hero 1? Seems like OP piece of ****, not very original, push, leap and propell? 1 was the worst tbh, 4 was the best.
obstacle_1
04-09-2010, 09:58 AM
Not totally, considering there's ~50k Players. So it would still be possible for them to win, though it's unlikely.
srlsy?
Fersin
04-09-2010, 10:06 AM
Isn't this a STRENGTH hero contest?? Number four sounds like a gg intel hero or something?
ShredderIV
04-09-2010, 10:10 AM
Hero 1 has something that isn't in the game at all yet. A hero that revolves around POSITIONING.
Seriously, TB might have some of that due to lightning rod, but hero one really will change the game by moving opponents to his liking. If you have to run away, make a wall behind you. If two heroes are coming to gank you and tower dive, use your first skill to push one towards the tower and leap on the other to stun. The tower will help you kill the first, and the second can't do **** after.
The fourth hero truly seems like an int hero. The simple fact that he has a -magic armor aura does it. Pick an int hero to help int heroes scale better.
Skyve
04-09-2010, 10:36 AM
Hero 1 has something that isn't in the game at all yet. A hero that revolves around POSITIONING.
:behe::devo::phar::andr::magm:
I would like to disagree.
Also, there's Tablet of Command.
archon_
04-09-2010, 11:09 AM
Hero 4 revolves to much around his gadget. Seems like he would be boring to play, and useless when he doesn't have it out.
ShredderIV
04-09-2010, 11:11 AM
revolves around POSITIONING.
And i quote myself.
Sure, those heroes all have skills that change positioning, but it's not like all their skills revolve around positioning.
Ok, Behe, has fissure which is about positioning. His other skills all rely on his personal positioning, which is not really what i meant. Only his first skill positions opponents where he wants them Dev, has a hook. Only positioning. Pharoah kinda does with mummies. Andro has swap, and magmus doesnt influence opponent positioning at all.
TOC does, but it's an item that is kinda rarely gotten.
The closest to what i mean so far is zephyr's gust. He can use it to move opponents to his liking in any direction.
I guess what i should have said was "A hero that revolves around affecting the positioning of your opponents."
AtroCty
04-09-2010, 12:46 PM
Finally an Anti-Carry with Hero 4.
Vote on 4!
ShredderIV
04-09-2010, 01:00 PM
Finally an Anti-Carry with Hero 4.
Vote on 4!
Why do you want an anti-carry so much?
Carries are a part of the game. This skill might seriously be OP without a huge number reduction on late game carries. They're needed to do what they do, which is carry. With this, there's no stopping a team from choosing all mid-game heroes and this guy, and raping face all the way into the late game.
Francho
04-09-2010, 01:08 PM
heroe 1 :D
Melto
04-09-2010, 01:23 PM
Hero 2 !
Btw,what are the name of thoses heroes?
Anyone knows?
An who are the creators?
Grimace
04-09-2010, 01:36 PM
Please stop voting for hero 4...that passive is skill-less, stupid, a direct, hard counter which is uncounterable, and gives people no reason to ever pick an agility carry ever again. Hello metagame earthquake. I know that we should shift toward ganking and pushing and whatnot, but not by nullifying the turtle+carry strat completely.
Hero 1 gogo
ShredderIV
04-09-2010, 01:48 PM
Please stop voting for hero 4...that passive is skill-less, stupid, a direct, hard counter which is uncounterable, and gives people no reason to ever pick an agility carry ever again. Hello metagame earthquake. I know that we should shift toward ganking and pushing and whatnot, but not by nullifying the turtle+carry strat completely.
Hero 1 gogo
Yessss. If hero 4 was implemented, he would most likely be picked every single competitive game, because it completely dominates AGI carries, while not hurting your own.
Also, did anyone else notice the whole 20hp drain on the third skill? that gives him massive lane staying power as well as making it so he basically never has to buy hp regen.
Also, can you say Jungler?
Blyth
04-09-2010, 02:03 PM
Does anyone have just the list over what heroes got a Zephyr/Legionare?? Also I think more heroes should have been possible candidates :/ Hero 1 kinda snowed in on moving stuff and hero 4 is kinda weird, and definitely not a str hero.
Skyve
04-09-2010, 02:14 PM
Please stop voting for hero 4...that passive is skill-less, stupid, a direct, hard counter which is uncounterable, and gives people no reason to ever pick an agility carry ever again. Hello metagame earthquake. I know that we should shift toward ganking and pushing and whatnot, but not by nullifying the turtle+carry strat completely.
Hero 1 gogo
It's not that hard staying out of melee range from a single enemy hero. Besides, you can always just kill him.
Beuteltier
04-09-2010, 02:18 PM
It's not that hard staying out of melee range from a single enemy hero. Besides, you can always just kill him.
And you can always change numbers.
Yessss. If hero 4 was implemented, he would most likely be picked every single competitive game, because it completely dominates AGI carries, while not hurting your own.
Also, did anyone else notice the whole 20hp drain on the third skill? that gives him massive lane staying power as well as making it so he basically never has to buy hp regen.
Also, can you say Jungler?
Numbers can be changed. The HP drain is heroes only, and if a ganker lanes like that, there will be bigger problems that game :P
SexyRanger_
04-09-2010, 02:26 PM
C'mon vote for hero n.-3!! :3
bleek
04-09-2010, 02:35 PM
I like how the community wants a gimmicky hero with obviously over forced synergy which is one of the main problems with most community made heroes.
Skyve
04-09-2010, 02:39 PM
I like how the community wants a gimmicky hero with obviously over forced synergy which is one of the main problems with most community made heroes.
What's everyones problem with semi forced synergy? I mean, is it really any worse than Valks Leap + Skill 1 for 450 nuke damage synergy, or her stun + leap to cover the distance it takes for her to get a good amount of stun in little time?
It's still better than Defiler, who has little to no synergy between the skills at all.
bleek
04-09-2010, 02:42 PM
Its not semi forced because the all of his skills are synergistic which makes for a hero either way too strong (tc) or too weak. By having synergy between 2-3 skills overall balances the hero.
Grimace
04-09-2010, 02:47 PM
It's not that hard staying out of melee range from a single enemy hero. Besides, you can always just kill him.
That isn't a valid response to the issue. Killing a hero or staying away from them is how you counter everything in the game. It should be so blindingly obvious that it goes unsaid. How else would you counter that passive? Not pick an agility hero, or a hero with agility at all? Also not valid responses - you can't just remove one-third of the heroes from competitive play based on who they are.
That argument holds even less sway because we're talking about a strength ganker who has a slow, a move that brings him and his enemy together, and plenty of health.
And you can always change numbers.
I'm not arguing against the ability because I think it's imbalanced; that is, too strong or too weak. I'm arguing against it because I think it's a stupid idea. Compare it with other passives. Soul Reaper's damages you based on your maximum health. That's okay because it discourages stacking health drafting high-HP heroes against him. Soul Stealer's passive lowers armor, which is fine because it helps him and his team do a little more damage, plus it's thematic.
But Hero 4's passive is just an absolute counter to all agility heroes. Agility heroes specifically. Whereas you can draft Soul Reaper to discourage high-HP heroes, drafting Hero 4 severely weakens an entire third of the pool based on something they can't control. You can counter other anti-agility things in reasonable ways, like purging Plague's Armor or getting Shrunken Head for stuns and slows. Not that passive - it's always active.
Dotapants
04-09-2010, 02:49 PM
sounds like there trying to make an op version of a rampage/ pharoah hybrid
Skyve
04-09-2010, 03:35 PM
But Hero 4's passive is just an absolute counter to all agility heroes. Agility heroes specifically. Whereas you can draft Soul Reaper to discourage high-HP heroes, drafting Hero 4 severely weakens an entire third of the pool based on something they can't control. You can counter other anti-agility things in reasonable ways, like purging Plague's Armor or getting Shrunken Head for stuns and slows. Not that passive - it's always active.The passive still has only 150 AoE. That's almost nothing. Also, the armor reduction will most likely be applied via a magic effect, so shrunken should help too.
Also, STR heroes are affected more than any other type of hero by Soul Stealers ability. It will always reduce your HP effectively by 43%, unless you get magic armor (which btw also helps against that passive).
Also, a well placed silence (Defiler/Vindicator/Scout) helps alot against the passive.
Hero 4 revolves to much around his gadget. Seems like he would be boring to play, and useless when he doesn't have it out.
From my understanding he always has it out.
I think it's like a master and his pet type of hero except the pet does skills and is controlled by skills rather than auto attacking (though I don't know what the original concept was, so who knows?).
I voted for four because it seems to have the most interesting/new gameplay and would take the most skill to use.
Hero one seems too much like other blinking heroes we have combined with the pushing of someone like zephyr. We already have guys like that. We don't have anyone at all like hero 4.
I like how the community wants a gimmicky hero with obviously over forced synergy which is one of the main problems with most community made heroes.
I think you are slightly misunderstanding the idea of forced synergy. Forced synergy is, as I define it anyway, when one skill directly affects or is affected by another skill. There's the bad:
"Hard" forced synergy: Wildsoul's Natural Attunement, which does absolutely nothing unless you get his other skills. And if you only get 2/3 of his other skills, part of Natural Attunement is "wasted."
"Soft" forced synergy: Defiler's Witchcraft, which boosts the other skills directly, but still provides its own benefits (movement speed) divorced from her other skills.
And then there's the good/OK:
Armadon's Restless, which works because you'd be a complete idiot not to get his active skills; there is no real detriment to getting Restless, in other words.
Pebbles' Chuck+Avalanche combo, since again, you'd be an idiot if you didn't get Chuck+Avalanche.
So again, it's not necessarily a bad thing--it just depends on implementation. I am the first person to speak out against Hard/Soft forced synergy, trust me. But the other ones can be quite exciting in a suggestion :)
docterj208
04-09-2010, 04:19 PM
Go Go Harkon's blade on Hero 4!
Metalelf
04-09-2010, 04:46 PM
Also, did anyone else notice the whole 20hp drain on the third skill? that gives him massive lane staying power as well as making it so he basically never has to buy hp regen.
Heroes only and it only drains at melee range.
docterj208
04-09-2010, 05:20 PM
Heroes only and it only drains at melee range.
You know, I was just thinking, does that mean it will pretty much only be effective when someone is actually staying and fighting you?
Also, does this count as a HP regeneration or a Heal?
You know, I was just thinking, does that mean it will pretty much only be effective when someone is actually staying and fighting you?
Also, does this count as a HP regeneration or a Heal?
These sorts of miniscule details will be up to the whims of the balance gods at S2.
Hero 2 !
Btw,what are the name of thoses heroes?
Anyone knows?
An who are the creators?
I know, and other people may remember. However, the original suggestions and whatnot have been removed to prevent bias.
Archael
04-09-2010, 06:02 PM
I declare hero #4 the winrar and he will claim many souls
we should call him SOOOOOOOOULLLL WEEAPPPERRRRRRRRR
Ass_Fister
04-09-2010, 06:03 PM
cant wait to kick madman wild arachnas and scout's asszes with hero 4 :D
+it seems to me like razor :D with that energy ball but a robot with a drone would be nice too :D
+late game agi heroes with 100agi will get so owned by him tanking and the int nukers spamming behind :D
MrMephisto1
04-09-2010, 06:09 PM
Hero #1 reminds me of a suggestion looong time ago in a dota forum...Harlequin was the name i think =)
Love his mobility+the uniqueness of his ultimate. Great ganker, exactly what i hope for.
Too bad a runoff vote isn't planned. If voting continues like it is now, Hero 2 and Hero 3 are effectively eliminated, though they could drastically change the result in a Hero 1/Hero 4 runoff.
Fenrisulf
04-09-2010, 06:28 PM
well, if there is no runoff vote, Hoer 4 has effectively already won.
Votes like this rarely flip around, imo 4 is just gonna maintain about a 10% gap on 1 until voting period ends
Blyth
04-09-2010, 07:25 PM
Why was the poll public? :S
Stranger
04-09-2010, 08:26 PM
To not allow you to cheat.
KUELHOH
04-09-2010, 11:14 PM
i really didnt like any of the heroes ideas...but hero four seems to be the most interesting hero...so i voted him! :D
Lexxxy
04-09-2010, 11:23 PM
hero 3 is like my concept... i hope it is my hero :P, but it's not getting ported anyways :))
ImASurgeon
04-10-2010, 01:15 AM
Nothing special. Just a bunch of vectors....
Not really happy, considering there were some really good ones, which didnt have the "OMFG UNIQUE VECTOR!@^*^@*!^@".
boreas
04-10-2010, 03:30 AM
Too bad a runoff vote isn't planned. If voting continues like it is now, Hero 2 and Hero 3 are effectively eliminated, though they could drastically change the result in a Hero 1/Hero 4 runoff.
2 and 3 are more similar to 1 than 4, so Hero 1 is more likely to lose votes to them.
There needs to be a 1 vs 4 vote imho.
OH MY LAWDE, ALL THESE HEROES ARE SUPER BAD
<state the exact same thing someone just said 1 page ago about hero 1>
<state the exact same thing someone just said 1 page ago about hero 2>
MY HERO WASNT PICKED, UR NOT GETTING MY VOTE!!!!!!!! {haha, that will ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ S2 up, im so clever}
lol. just lol.
I love hero 2. bout time we had a pirate.
Blyth
04-10-2010, 04:47 AM
I think 4 heroes were to few to vote on ;o And really there were better heroes then these
Seriousgoat
04-10-2010, 04:58 AM
HERO 4 ! like the best idea here. gogo pwn agi heroes ;>
Skyve
04-10-2010, 06:10 AM
I think 4 heroes were to few to vote on ;o And really there were better heroes then these
The Problem is though that, if there were any more heroes, then nobody would read beyond hero concept 4/5.
Maybe they should have made several votes, 4 heroes at a time, and then the winners from those votes would be voted against each other in a last voting.
Infinity
04-10-2010, 06:15 AM
I dont like any of those....
Blyth
04-10-2010, 07:34 AM
The Problem is though that, if there were any more heroes, then nobody would read beyond hero concept 4/5.
Maybe they should have made several votes, 4 heroes at a time, and then the winners from those votes would be voted against each other in a last voting.
I think everybody underestimates peoples will to read through stuff :p
DrKeso
04-10-2010, 09:45 AM
Hero 4 had the most interesting mechanics. Would be nice to have a hero that requires a lot of skill and precision as opposed to all right click and die heroes.
#1 is just too awesome to not vote for.
DzOnY
04-10-2010, 10:02 AM
Voted for #4. Like him the most out of those 4
Ryper7
04-10-2010, 11:28 AM
everyones whos talking about run-off votes and votes just between heros 1 and 4 are the people who voted for hero 1 :p
RetaSup
04-10-2010, 12:34 PM
wtf i dont like ice frog > s2 staff ever..
Icemind
04-10-2010, 02:02 PM
Compared to some other heroes that were in the contest iam really disappointed by those that made it in here. (Thinking graveyard for expample)
Though of these hero 4 clearly seems to be the most interesting (and with the lowest amount of copied skills)
meh, none of them appealed to me, but I guess 1 is better one
SirGallagher
04-10-2010, 05:08 PM
wtf i dont like ice frog > s2 staff ever..
Hey, without IceFrog, Guinsoo, Eul, there would be no HoN.
War_Mech
04-10-2010, 05:12 PM
Hey, without IceFrog, Guinsoo, Eul, there would be no HoN.
He was saying that Icefrog is better than the S2 staff...
Vanarchy
04-10-2010, 05:53 PM
he was saying that icefrog is better than the s2 staff...
let's burn him alive!!!!11
What's so interesting about hero 4?!?!?!?! He looks STINKY!!! MORE HOOKS PLZ!!! Hero 2 FTW
Bastila
04-10-2010, 07:53 PM
Went with Hero 4... even though it doesn't feel like a strength hero in concept.
Godeye
04-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Voted for 2, but that bash skill is much better than Rampage's for the same effect. rampage remake at best.
1 seems too much like a turtle hero, 3 is too much like a pharoah/beastmaster combo ult.
4 is the only one other than a 2 (Rampage Remake) that I would like to see.
everyones whos talking about run-off votes and votes just between heros 1 and 4 are the people who voted for hero 1 :p
i voted for 4 but i'd still like to see another poll just so we can see how much better hero 4 is. :D
deadlydorito
04-10-2010, 08:23 PM
These all seem to have a combination of pudge hook, andro ulti and pharao ulti...
Enceladus
04-10-2010, 08:32 PM
i think that the gadget and wall and vector thing were the objective here, so yeah, theyre very "devo-meda-rao-ish"
im going hero 4. i like the concept of moving that little gray ball all over the place XD
Adbeth
04-10-2010, 10:13 PM
Voted mr 4, I really dont like the other guys :/
good thing they stripped the looks and storys of the hereos, but for some reason I cant stop thinking about hero 4 as some sort of floating silver guy named Atom with 2 electrons flying around his body, shouting stupid pseudo-scientific phrases when atacking and casting O.o
I wonder what will S2 do with this crazy machine of war...
EDIT: question: will the other heros be ever seenable again? cuz I'd like to post Azgar in the suggestion section of the forum and all that stuff :/
Fozzle
04-10-2010, 10:23 PM
Voted for 2, but that bash skill is much better than Rampage's for the same effect. rampage remake at best.
1 seems too much like a turtle hero, 3 is too much like a pharoah/beastmaster combo ult.
4 is the only one other than a 2 (Rampage Remake) that I would like to see.
Yeh this is how I saw it. 4 is cool, but 2 sounded more fun to play...
3's ult was too much like pharaohs.
What's so interesting about hero 4?!?!?!?! He looks STINKY!!! MORE HOOKS PLZ!!! Hero 2 FTW
Not sure if you noticed, but both 2 and 4 have hooks ;)
Habile
04-11-2010, 12:29 AM
Well, they all look very gank intensive. Though 'Hero 4' is just great! Very unique set of skills; not necessarily each one, but as a whole. I also like the third ability, which looks like it allows casters to keep the upper hand against agi carries late game.
HamsterXD
04-11-2010, 02:21 AM
i prefer hero 3, very different, gj
cabboose
04-11-2010, 03:26 AM
i enjoyed reading these concepts, and am gonna hold my vote cause all of these concepts are freaking sweet.
I enjoyed reading 4 the most tho because of his complete uniqueness to the HoN Game, i think in the end he will be the winner of this due to this unqueness. However i am slightly worried over the mechanics over the gadget, but o well.
look forward to seeing which one will be implemented.
Aw my hero made it.. but it's not winning. Oh well, ;p
This is funny though.. I had no idea it got into finals.. would of never thought.
Damn! I forgot I rushed the X skill and it's REALLy bad, I didn't ever bother working on it.. kinda sucks now lol.
woDka
04-11-2010, 06:04 AM
well i would love both hero 1 and 4 but well :<
armadon_only
04-11-2010, 06:30 AM
Vote for Hero 1 and you'll get free brazzers accounts!
KissMyHook
04-11-2010, 09:02 AM
:O all of these seem so unique and cool .Anyway i voted for hero 4.Seems like hes the hardest to use and hes very fun.
mrpringies
04-11-2010, 11:06 AM
Hero 4 should be a angry troll that has an even angrier dwarf companion.
LadyGaga
04-11-2010, 11:31 AM
Voted for hero 4, because I love the unique gadget mechanic. I picture a woman like the lord of the rings Galadriel led by a delicate shining blue spirit orb that functions as the gadget...
Ryper7
04-11-2010, 11:36 AM
they could do so much conceptual work with the hero 4 mechanics. i cant wait to see what they come up with for it :D. god i hope it maintains its lead
CheshireCat
04-11-2010, 01:52 PM
Hands down for Hero 4. I'm glad I took time to read through them all :>
Loving the symbol based explanatory pictures :D
Whakapapa
04-11-2010, 02:01 PM
I think hero 4 sounds the most unique and interesting, the others got mechanics already seen in other heroes
L`ANANAS1
04-11-2010, 03:57 PM
Hero 4 looks very nice..
only 1 problem:
Looks too much of an INT hero.
Might as well put in both hero 1 and hero 4(as an int hero).
Seriously everything you do is with the gadget...
that doesn't sound like a strength hero.
Anyway, good ideas.
boreas
04-11-2010, 04:39 PM
Voted for hero 4, because I love the unique gadget mechanic. I picture a woman like the lord of the rings Galadriel led by a delicate shining blue spirit orb that functions as the gadget...
Galadriel on 'roids? This is a str hero
LadyGaga
04-11-2010, 05:23 PM
Galadriel on 'roids? This is a str hero
Just because she's a delicate elf female doesn't mean she can be strong?
OhBob
04-11-2010, 05:55 PM
First and fourth are awesome, but fourth gets the gold for having a real role in the game. (Hero one is just anoying, Chasing god)
ShredderIV
04-11-2010, 06:05 PM
Seriously, I'm not really liking this contest. Hero 4 really seems nothing like a str hero. He would fit the role of an int hero much much better. Especially with his third skill.
banderlog
04-11-2010, 06:07 PM
Really looking forward to conceptualization of Hero 4!
RenoFox
04-11-2010, 06:09 PM
I think they should port Hero 4 as an int hero and the hero 1 as the str hero ;)
KiryeEleison
04-11-2010, 06:15 PM
Hero four is too... gadgistick, tough i like the idea that someone have of a girl with a wisp, cool, but still it sound like a int ganker.
if I have to choose it would be 1 since 3 already got too low on votes T.T.
but hero four and her/his magic gadget that deals damage for anything seems OP >.<
NinjaPants
04-11-2010, 06:16 PM
Wouldn't make sense as an int hero.
Too much of an up close play style.
Cooties
04-11-2010, 06:21 PM
Wouldn't make sense as an int hero.
Too much of an up close play style.
I think he'd be a fine int hero, Torturer and Blacksmith are already a pair of int heroes that get right into the mess. Dark Seer from DotA is also a great melee int hero.
It really just depends on how they present the hero, they could justify it as any one of the attribute types I'm sure.
Kozon
04-11-2010, 06:26 PM
anyone else wondering why only 4000 people out of the 50000+ that play have voted?
NinjaPants
04-11-2010, 06:31 PM
I assume it's because a lot less people visit the forums.
And an even lesser amount checks the suggestions forums.
War_Mech
04-11-2010, 06:32 PM
anyone else wondering why only 4000 people out of the 50000+ that play have voted?
Most people couldn't care less about the forums, and it hasn't really been announced in game as far as I know.
Also, I think hero 4 would work fine as a strength. If he was int he would only make sense as a melee with high strength anyway.
LadyGaga
04-11-2010, 06:34 PM
Lol at everybody saying hero 4 should be an int hero. Cuz we all know primary stat is always an indicator of role :rolleyes:
Ryno2112
04-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Voted hero two, shame to see it not doing so well. As this is a strength hero, this would concept would rock and give lego/Axe a replacement at times. It doesn't directly force the opponent to attack them, but if they try to run away from them, they take a beating.
LadyGaga
04-11-2010, 07:40 PM
Is hero 1 gaining a ton of ground, or is that just me?
CHR0N0S
04-11-2010, 08:36 PM
PLEASE LOOK AT THE DISARMED AND SILENCED DRAWINGS IN HERO 1, THEY ARE HILARIOUS JAJAJAJAJAJAJ.
Voted for hero 4. But 1 is cool too
Erosiccu
04-11-2010, 09:06 PM
I definitely love Hero 3, he will be such a skill based combo hero and although he will be difficult to play he will be able to help team sooo much and he would just be such an interesting hero haha, I love it!
sQuibba
04-11-2010, 09:11 PM
isnt this closed now?
Vulfe
04-11-2010, 09:32 PM
What's the point in the cooldown increase if you miss with Hero 1's skill? Shouldn't it just increase the base CD by 5 at all levels and if you hit, decrease it? You can only hit a hero or not hit a hero, there's not exactly any third outcome.
i like hero 1 the most except for its 3rd skill
hero 4 is neat too, and i like hero 2's first two skills. not too fond of hero 3
Pwyll
04-12-2010, 05:03 AM
When's this contest over?
RenoFox
04-12-2010, 05:07 AM
What's the point in the cooldown increase if you miss with Hero 1's skill? Shouldn't it just increase the base CD by 5 at all levels and if you hit, decrease it? You can only hit a hero or not hit a hero, there's not exactly any third outcome.It was a mistake, it was meant to be minus time on Hero hit, nothing on hitting enemy units then + time if you miss heroes and/or units.
yav_at
04-12-2010, 05:27 AM
Hero 4 all the way! The others are good too, but 4 stands out.
MarioMCP
04-12-2010, 05:29 AM
Love Devourer, love hero 2. Needs more hook powah!
RenoFox
04-12-2010, 05:29 AM
Hero 4 has a hook too.
`jusatin`
04-12-2010, 06:58 AM
#1st is just copy of zephyr skills, and infact, I dont like too much any of them :P but voted for #4
oRmKalessiN
04-12-2010, 07:20 AM
4th.... Give me HIM %)
Ritualst
04-12-2010, 07:23 AM
Liked the 1st and 4th concept. I couldn't decide and finaly chose 1st.
MrSmith
04-12-2010, 08:05 AM
I voted for hero 2 and i dont really get the point of hero 4...dont like him
dandylion
04-12-2010, 09:33 AM
I know I already asked if there was a way to make the polls invisible, but I think next time if it can't be done on these forums that it be done through a 3rd party website perhaps, because I feel a lot of people are just jumping on the "winning hero gets my vote" bandwagon. 2 cents for about the fourth time.
`ABPO
04-12-2010, 09:52 AM
the contest is finish? the hero will come? are u adding the hero 1 and the hero 2? :D! I NEED ANSWERS!
Husofant
04-12-2010, 09:55 AM
just give us all 4 heroes... =)
TheGoodAss
04-12-2010, 10:17 AM
nicee
ChickenLamp
04-12-2010, 10:24 AM
cant w8 to see the result
KaIlIjKI
04-12-2010, 10:29 AM
#1 sounds like the one that'll be most fun to play, pop walls and play ping pong with your enemies. This one will be a ganker, and quite possible a wicked complement to behemoth when it comes to trapping people. I also really like the synergy of reducing the cooldown when you hit your target.
#2 and #3 sounds plain and boring to me, e.g. #2 skill 2 is a single target version of Puck's ultimate.
#4 also sounds like a lot of fun, and it sounds like it'll be VERY much based upon player skill. However, I do not think it's concept quite fits a strength hero, instead I'd say this one should be intelligence.
Based on that, my vote goes to #1.
Pwyll
04-12-2010, 11:34 AM
just give us all 4 heroes... =)
For the love of god, please don't. I wish there were a "none of the above" option.
#1 sounds like the one that'll be most fun to play, pop walls and play ping pong with your enemies. This one will be a ganker, and quite possible a wicked complement to behemoth when it comes to trapping people. I also really like the synergy of reducing the cooldown when you hit your target.
#2 and #3 sounds plain and boring to me, e.g. #2 skill 2 is a single target version of Puck's ultimate.
#4 also sounds like a lot of fun, and it sounds like it'll be VERY much based upon player skill. However, I do not think it's concept quite fits a strength hero, instead I'd say this one should be intelligence.
Based on that, my vote goes to #1.
I dont know if i want my int hero rocketing towards enemies, or taking aoe damage from his own abilities, or tanking agi heroes at melee range, really. Seems like only someone with a lot of str could survive his skills.
Voted for nr1, but i misssssss Clinkz Eastwood so much :'(
Monkeyass1
04-12-2010, 12:15 PM
i think the first hero is the best
KaIlIjKI
04-12-2010, 12:23 PM
I dont know if i want my int hero rocketing towards enemies, or taking aoe damage from his own abilities, or tanking agi heroes at melee range, really. Seems like only someone with a lot of str could survive his skills.
The AoE damage is 15% of 320. Hardly lethal.
And what's to stop you from building an int with tank items? There are already several int heroes based around this concept. And the concept of manipulating a...something from a distance sounds, to me, more like the concept of an intellect hero (telekinesis or some such).
Skyve
04-12-2010, 12:38 PM
Shouldn't the poll be already closed? I mean, I always thought from where I live to US was only about 6-7 hours time difference.
Or do I just not see that the poll is closed because I voted?
Chard
04-12-2010, 12:47 PM
they are all so un original and dull, each one was just a copy-paste of other hero skills. the only original hero was hero 4 and that was just terrible.
Chard
04-12-2010, 12:52 PM
anyone else wondering why only 4000 people out of the 50000+ that play have voted?
i did not no anything about this until now. they should have announced this in maliken's tip of the day
Cooties
04-12-2010, 01:11 PM
When you reduce almost any of the heroes in the game to their bare mechanics a lot of them will sound very dull and just mix-ups of existing heroes. Theme and presentation (which weren't a part of this contest) go a long way to giving a hero a unique identity.
There's about four hours left to go for the voting, you can see the time the forum is running on at the bottom of the screen if you scroll down. So that means in the next four hours Hero 3 only needs to quadruple its votes for victory! :(
It would have been interesting if they had implemented some way to vote in-game to tap into the other 90% of the HoN playerbase though to see how they would have influenced the vote.
Actually that just gave me a pretty crazy idea for similar voting contests they might have in the future. I read in another thread where they were discussing the cost breakdown of developing heroes (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=1352754#post1352754) and it mentions that the actual coding step of heroes takes little to no code change which makes it a relatively insignificant part of the process (that's what I understood at least).
If there was a system put in place in game to allow four 'teapot' versions of these heroes available for practice play of some kind then people would have a great idea of how the heroes are planned to function and since it would be in-game it would be easy to encourage the entire community to participate in the vote. Players would log in one day and read about a hero contest going on and they'd be given an opportunity to go and give each contestant a test-drive and then place a vote based on their experience with each hero. I think this would be restricted to just messing around in a practice mode of some kind otherwise there would be a lot of pressure to balance numbers before they're even implemented.
I think it'd have been great to play around with teapot concept of these heroes, and the teapotness lines up with the themeless strategy they used to prevent thematic bias as well. Hero 1 would spawn giant checkerboard walls, Hero 2 would launch checkerbox hooks, Hero 3 could toss checkerbox obstacles and Hero 4 could have his checkered gadget and fling it around like a crazy man.
Skyve
04-12-2010, 01:36 PM
It would have been interesting if they had implemented some way to vote in-game to tap into the other 90% of the HoN playerbase though to see how they would have influenced the vote.
That is true. Something like that would be smart. It shouldn't be too hard to make a voting system outside of the forum software.
Ass_Fister
04-12-2010, 01:57 PM
hmm hero 4 will surely win :D
krigermusen
04-12-2010, 02:05 PM
I think hero 4 is too much of a mix of pharaoh and devourer. And he is even better than both. I don't want another of those, instead i voted for number 1 since it brings something new to the game. and hero 2's ulti just seemed way too overpowered.
The AoE damage is 15% of 320. Hardly lethal.
And what's to stop you from building an int with tank items? There are already several int heroes based around this concept. And the concept of manipulating a...something from a distance sounds, to me, more like the concept of an intellect hero (telekinesis or some such).
Yeah but we have heroes like blacksmith who seem like they should be strength heroes, but are actually int as well and heroes like jere who seem like they should be caster/int heroes but are actually strength. I think it's just fine to have a strength hero who uses range as part of his skills since we dont even have a ranged strength hero at all.
Skyve
04-12-2010, 02:58 PM
Yeah but we have heroes like blacksmith who seem like they should be strength heroes, but are actually int as well and heroes like jere who seem like they should be caster/int heroes but are actually strength. I think it's just fine to have a strength hero who uses range as part of his skills since we dont even have a ranged strength hero at all.
We even have AGI heroes that could easily be int (Soulstealer, Andromeda, Valkyrie, though Andro would be even better as STR imo, since she would be a great initiator, but it's just very, very dangerous with her low life).
dandylion
04-12-2010, 03:44 PM
One moar hour!
Ryper7
04-12-2010, 04:15 PM
looks like we're gettin hero 4
GrizmoBlust
04-12-2010, 04:22 PM
Hero 4 is going win this!
WOOT WOOT
ChickenLamp
04-12-2010, 04:39 PM
imba
dandylion
04-12-2010, 04:42 PM
Last before close?!
Skyve
04-12-2010, 04:42 PM
1 more minute :D
dandylion
04-12-2010, 04:43 PM
OH you jerk skyve! I wanted last!
dandylion
04-12-2010, 04:43 PM
Poll should be all like closed and stuffs. Hero 4 is victor!!!111
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