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Drasha
04-02-2010, 12:17 AM
Balphagore Guide! (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=79) as of patch 1.0.10

Wanted to drop a link for HoNDB's guide section (http://www.hondb.com/?guides=&page=0) we are sitting at about 40 guides right now and I am working on finishing guides for all the heroes we don't have. Feel free to comment or rate guides it helps us decided which ones to keep if some of them need improvement.

I am also taking requests for hero guides if you want to see one just mention it in this thread.

HoNDB Guides (http://www.hondb.com/?guides=&page=0)

Drasha
04-02-2010, 02:57 PM
added a pyromancer guide

Powerpuffman
04-05-2010, 05:52 AM
Very nice. Thanks for the effort!

Drasha
04-09-2010, 09:56 PM
added a chipper guide! feel free to comment on the chipper guide on his guide page or here.

Headsniper
04-09-2010, 10:41 PM
I love you.....

Can you do a warbeast guide?

Fagabond
04-10-2010, 03:41 PM
Warbeast...oh yes indeed

a_cloth
04-10-2010, 04:58 PM
people are having trouble with war beast??

ok heres yours 10 step guide

1. Lane/jungle until lvl 9 and you have abysmal skull/steamboots

2. Kill kongor

3. Gank like mad until u lose aegis

4. Go back to jungle until you have puzzlebox lvl 3

5. Kill kongor and gank until you lose aegis

6. Buy shrunken head and start seriously pushing

7. Buy frostburn with money from pushes/kills

8. Continue to push

9. Buy savage mace/ or sheild breaker depending on circumstances

10. Finish game if it isn't over by now

bfbfbfbf
04-16-2010, 12:20 PM
zephyr maybe?

Drasha
05-12-2010, 11:16 PM
added the Warbeast Guide! (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=58)

we have 3 zephyr guides.

a_cloth
05-13-2010, 04:36 AM
added the Warbeast Guide! (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=58)

we have 3 zephyr guides.
Add a Back Door build to the guide. As of now its not counterable, and China does it in pubs all the time for lulz

Steamboots-> abyssal skull->Puzzlebox->Geometers->portal key->Daemonic breastplate(- armor applies to towers/barracks)

You can't counter that backdoor and its overpowered as fuk in pubs and fun as hell

1.port key on tower/barrack

2.pop geometer/puzzlebox

3.Use ur allied damage spell

4.Rofl kill towers in 4-5 seconds

5. Use ult to run away

6. Rofl at the raging "all chat"

Drasha
05-13-2010, 04:49 AM
All you need is a puzzle box to eat towers alive no need to farm all of those items to shave 5 seconds of how long it takes to kill a tower when you could have ended the game 30 minutes ago.

a_cloth
05-13-2010, 05:26 AM
All you need is a puzzle box to eat towers alive no need to farm all of those items to shave 5 seconds of how long it takes to kill a tower when you could have ended the game 30 minutes ago.
the idea is to port key in on the tower so u can instantly start taking it down, and with puzzlebox + images even if they telly you will still be able to take the tower down if warbeast runs away

Drasha
05-13-2010, 05:31 AM
the idea is to port key in on the tower so u can instantly start taking it down, and with puzzlebox + images even if they telly you will still be able to take the tower down if warbeast runs away
eh moving from the fog in the forest to their tower is maybe 1.5 seconds of travel time if you ult before making the run. I can't justify a 2k item to shave that much time though you have to factor in the fact that you have to spend a bit of time doing all your summons, warcry, and ulting after porting in instead of doing it all in the fog then running in.

Skull4er
05-13-2010, 09:33 AM
the battlecry icon is wrong.

Drasha
05-13-2010, 05:48 PM
the battlecry icon is wrong.
I know its because we take all of our information from the game files and s2 has multiple abilities with the name battle cry. Its an annoying problem that is being worked on.

Drasha
05-17-2010, 02:03 PM
added the Accursed guide! (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=61)

you might see a carry accursed joke build guide at some point since its just plain fun.

Drasha
05-24-2010, 09:29 PM
added Bubbles (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=65) guide

05-26-2010, 12:21 AM
Great site. Love how clean everything is.

CptJesus
05-26-2010, 01:15 AM
Guides are free to add for anyone correct?

Drasha
05-26-2010, 02:57 PM
Guides are free to add for anyone correct?
Ya any one can make a guide you just have to be logged in.

Tyg
05-27-2010, 12:10 AM
i like turtles

Drasha
05-27-2010, 01:42 AM
i like turtles
guides name changed.

Grovel
05-27-2010, 01:35 PM
Like the site, mouseover info is always clutch. A section in the individual guides with replays might be nice.

Tamale
05-29-2010, 03:56 AM
Chipper needs staff as a recommended item.

Also, an alternate build is stats/rockets/ult bypassing tar until the end.

Crabski
05-30-2010, 07:45 PM
Nice list of Take Cover dodges.

Drasha
06-06-2010, 10:06 AM
spot lighting pollywog priest guide (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=60)

Drasha
06-12-2010, 08:49 PM
spot light scout guide (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=29)

Drasha
06-29-2010, 04:26 PM
new guide which is a revamp of my old Andromeda guide Andromdea Guide! (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=68)

Drasha
07-03-2010, 07:58 AM
Rampage Guide (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=69) as of patch 1.0.5

voidpredator
07-04-2010, 02:48 AM
nice rampage guide. i dont know though why people consider portal key bad on the new rampage. his "yo dawg im gonna hornstrike u from da back" move is just awesome.

Drasha
08-25-2010, 03:27 PM
Balphagore Guide! (http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=79) as of patch 1.0.10

Ringm4ster
09-03-2010, 12:29 AM
Could anyone do Bubbles guide?
I simply can't understand what this hero can do although i like him very much :P

Drasha
09-08-2010, 07:44 PM
I already wrote a bubbles guide
http://www.hondb.com/?viewguide=65

is there some thing in it you don't understand?

Gadget
09-09-2010, 09:10 PM
i like the balph guide but would you consider adding heroes to avoid for him? just for completeness

Drasha
09-10-2010, 04:18 PM
There are not specific heroes that you want to watch out for more then any other hero. What you need to look for is the other teams hero composition. If the other team has 2 of the heroes i mentioned balph countering you can get away with picking him if they have 3 or more hes a great pick. If they have 1 or none of them i wouldn't pick balphagore since his ult is never going to be fully charged most of the time.

Tommy
09-12-2010, 07:17 PM
slightly disappoint at the lack of mentioning a frostfield for balph. once you have vestment/greaves/teacher its quite nice to try and rush a frostfield as it pretty much detonates the minions from hell on newerth (or at least speeds up the process of it)

Drasha
09-13-2010, 12:28 AM
you can't damage your own minions >.>

any ways once you have your core you should pretty much have won and any thing else you buy is icing on the cake.

Tommy
09-13-2010, 02:01 PM
erm, unless somethings changed a 80+ hell on newerth spawns volatile minions on each enemy hero which can be attacked by both you and the enemy which explode after taking 400sh? damage for 300.

Drasha
09-15-2010, 06:29 PM
huh you can kill them. They have 350 health and no magic armor. Would mean it only took 150 more damage to kill them so it wouldn't be a bad choice. Still by the time you have your core and gold to buy frostfield plate you should have already won. Adding the item to the list.