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Javu
03-31-2010, 12:12 PM
Engineer seems to be pretty popular atm, so it got me thinking about ways to counter him and nothing immediately came to mind, just wanted to hear everyone elses thoughts on it.

What are good counters to engineer?

china
03-31-2010, 12:28 PM
Lets branch out.

jay`t
03-31-2010, 02:00 PM
:ShrunkenHead:

Majin
03-31-2010, 02:02 PM
attack the ulti?

Kietharr
03-31-2010, 02:09 PM
Pollywog can summon wards on his ult and instakill it
Slither wards can instakill ult if he gets them up BEFORE engy ports in
Scout can instakill ult

Basically anything that can attack very fast or summon attacking minions can kill his ult/turret very fast and without that all he has is auto attack and a decent AoE stun.

Engineer is basically a one trick hero, if you remove the huge factor that is his ult he's really nothing special at all. Decent, but not OP by a longshot. The biggest thing that gets people killed is not focusing that ult, it will deal more damage over time than anything else in that teamfight, it is worth using the auto attacks to kill it instead of focusing engy right away.

Mepp
03-31-2010, 02:11 PM
his turret tooo.
pew pew pew pew it alone will take down your support lategame in about 10 seconds.

k1
03-31-2010, 02:12 PM
Defiler and Slither are my favorites for destroying his ult.

FilionTeras
03-31-2010, 04:32 PM
yeah. there is always a big BUT
engi will summon it after the initiation. if you target them, rest of the team has a bigger advantage

Mark`
03-31-2010, 04:40 PM
People are also underestimating his ult in combination with other ults, like Magmus or Kraken.

An ult that makes everyone attack some random piece of trash or take huge damage is a great ult, even if everyone attacks the random piece of trash.

It's also a great isolator ult, since crossing the barrier is slow/silence/purge/damage.

Engineer actually scales super well too because of his turret. While it isn't the Annihilation-generator it once was, the fact is it gets 60% of his +damage items, yet people underestimate it because the tooltip says 20%. But it's 20% added to EVERY BULLET, and every turret attack fires three bullets.

_WooTbEEr_
03-31-2010, 05:07 PM
my biggest question is why do they never turret stack creep camps early to mid game with him while the turret is still fairly weak. On legion side u can stack ancients with level 3 turret and until that point u can stack the camp closest to the legion base with a level 1 turret.

While not directly helping you out it could give certain heroes in your line up a nice boost in levels and gold. At the ten minute mark you could have stacked ~1200 gold and 2-3 levels worth of creeps for someone like :behe:(ult + fissure), :zeph: or :souls: to drop them quickly and on there own. And atleast one of those heroes have been in the teams line up every time ive seen engi in comp play.

Well_Shebber
03-31-2010, 05:13 PM
Attack the ult, and he's a squishy semi-carry (whose semi-carrying turret can also be killed).

TheMadman
03-31-2010, 05:17 PM
:defi:'s ulti attacks like 20 times or something. Insta-kills his ulti/turret.

china
03-31-2010, 05:23 PM
Lets branch out.

vursed
03-31-2010, 06:11 PM
Keeper will be next months flavOUr

Aviseras
04-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Uh... Pollywog is the flavor of the month, not engi. This, consequently, has caused engi to also be picked because he synergizes extremely well with polly for pushing, and catching a team inside engi's ult with polly's wards is devastaing.

TravCarp
04-01-2010, 01:17 PM
Lets branch out. :dead:

Chimpy_Nuts
04-04-2010, 01:35 PM
Defiler is his hardest counter pew pew

Asway1
04-04-2010, 01:44 PM
Lets branch out.:dark:

Ryper7
04-06-2010, 12:48 PM
Keeper will be next months flavOUr
he's australian, its spelt flavOUr over here, and in pretty much the rest of the world except america im pretty sure.

lysol
04-06-2010, 02:52 PM
defiler ult, fa skeletons, slither wards, pollywog wards, anyone with a geometers, tempest elementals, ophelia with some creeps/puzzle box, lots of ways to kill that ult fast

Mr_Ken
04-08-2010, 12:09 PM
Defiler and Slither are my favorites for destroying his ult.
Think you're good?

imhuyLOL
04-08-2010, 12:16 PM
yeah he does, 1700 scrub plays with 1900 and thinks he's god or something? get carried.

Lohesh
04-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Keeper will be next months flavOUr
It's difficult for me to tell if you're just joking, or if you actually think that you made a clever insult or something. I really hope it's the former.

Glorify1
04-10-2010, 05:02 AM
Flavor is spelled wrong.

:defi::defi::Puzzlebox::Puzzlebox::GeometersBane:: GeometersBane:

YawningAngel
04-10-2010, 05:07 AM
Flavor is spelled wrong.

Quoted for idiocy.

Glorify1
04-10-2010, 05:10 AM
Quoted for idiocy.

Wuz ez.

YawningAngel
04-10-2010, 05:40 AM
'flavour' is the correct spelling outside of America.

Glorify1
04-10-2010, 05:49 AM
Nah you're wrong bro.

Benny`
04-10-2010, 05:50 AM
lol @ cultural ignorance.

****ins stupid yokel americans, I didn't know they had the internet in texas.

Glorify1
04-10-2010, 05:53 AM
whoawhoawhoawhoawhowa no need to swear.

knowitall
04-10-2010, 06:22 AM
'flavour' is the correct spelling outside of America.

I was pretty sure they taught American English in other countries rather than British English. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Ashur
04-10-2010, 08:28 AM
They actually teach a mix, atleast that's what I was taught.

YawningAngel
04-10-2010, 08:32 AM
I was pretty sure they taught American English in other countries rather than British English. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're wrong.

Radioman
04-10-2010, 09:08 AM
this thread needs more colour.

mirger
04-10-2010, 09:28 AM
I was pretty sure they taught American English in other countries rather than British English. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Wrong. In Finland, it's the Queen's English.

g1real
04-10-2010, 09:32 AM
It's a mix.

And I've taught myself British English.

And magebane will be the next flavor of the month.

(It's really hard to type all those words with only o instead of ou, I do it automatically).

Pho3n1x
04-10-2010, 09:35 AM
It's not English you retards it's called 'American'.

Zekkei
04-10-2010, 09:43 AM
get a str hero then get barbed armour and watch him kill himself (did this with bloodhunter with only 2 bracers he had charged hammer)

Xitras
04-10-2010, 10:02 AM
Flavor is spelled wrong.

:defi::defi::Puzzlebox::Puzzlebox::GeometersBane:: GeometersBane:

Derp derp ignorant American, derp. And still doesnt have a team LOL.

MadGok
04-10-2010, 01:08 PM
To state the obvious, funny how nobody gets they are being trolled.

Tinie`Tempah
04-11-2010, 10:05 AM
Attack the ult, and he's a squishy semi-carry (whose semi-carrying turret can also be killed).

how is engi squishy?
keg + stats the way to go, get a frostburn in say under 25 minutes and you have won the game, engi is one of the most underestimated heros in the game, and pretty ****ing op, he can take 2 heros at once at level 6 in his ult if built keg ant stats, sure theres a few counters to the ult, but most people are too stupid to use them and/or if he uses his ult properly silences them by keggin the countering hero into the edge so they cannot cast the countering for example pollys wards.

china
04-12-2010, 09:26 AM
Woah. I'm an American. Gotta chill wit the racism.

Consider this - a state in America has equivalent size and population to plenty of small countries. It's not that nice to group them all together, especially in a derogatory way.

Forfeit
04-12-2010, 09:45 AM
lol @ cultural ignorance.

****ins stupid yokel americans, I didn't know they had the internet in texas.
I'm curious what country you live in.

04-12-2010, 10:32 AM
Just pick pharaoh, get a behemoth's heart and barbed armor. Then just run into the turret and have mr glass cannon kill himself.

Skwonky
04-13-2010, 01:16 AM
Glorify be trollin' some euros.

On topic: :bloo: + codex is where it's at. Recommended item for a reason, clearly.

Leetard179
04-13-2010, 01:40 AM
is it just me or is everyone too caught up in the cluster**** to even bother attacking the ult?

Mellow
04-13-2010, 04:16 AM
how is engi squishy?
keg + stats the way to go, get a frostburn in say under 25 minutes and you have won the game, engi is one of the most underestimated heros in the game, and pretty ****ing op, he can take 2 heros at once at level 6 in his ult if built keg ant stats, sure theres a few counters to the ult, but most people are too stupid to use them and/or if he uses his ult properly silences them by keggin the countering hero into the edge so they cannot cast the countering for example pollys wards.
With keg+stats you have no turret, severely limiting your damage output. You're also passing up on tinker, which is really good. Furthermore frostburn gives absolute **** damage compared to savage mace or charged hammer, making it a really poor choice. Engie already has enough ways to stop people from escaping with ulti and keg.

PaCo
04-13-2010, 05:41 AM
the next flavor flavour of the month will be getting more armor armour

so what are your thoughts on that?

Kietharr
04-13-2010, 09:00 AM
lol @ cultural ignorance.

****ins stupid yokel americans, I didn't know they had the internet in texas.

http://www.ilovecopperplategothicbold.com/images/december_07/crying_bald_eagle_cgb.jpg

jay`t
04-13-2010, 10:21 AM
great image, truly tugs at my heart strings

edit - also great troll by glourify

Bumblebees
04-13-2010, 11:32 AM
Woah. I'm an American. Gotta chill wit the xenophobia.

Consider this - a state in America has equivalent size and population to plenty of small countries. It's not that nice to group them all together, especially in a derogatory way.

Fixed that for you.

"American" is not a race. I would think that much would be clear considering the implied thought in the second paragraph you wrote.