DemonHand Range Circles

[DreadTalon]

This mod adds circles infront of SoulStealer that indicate the damage radius for the varius distances of demon hands.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6747/50729665.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/50729665.jpg/)

The mod was created as a result of thread:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=83932&highlight=cool+idea+soulstealer

This mod is not Khaos' one, I believe the code for his was never released; however, I expect that this mod is identical so credit for the idea goes to him. The mod uses the Tower Range Indicator textures so credit goes to the creator of those for their use here.


I'm not going to go into whether I believe this mod is fair or not, the fact is that people are able to make it and use it privately if they wish, therefore it needs to be released publically for S2 to make a judgement on whether it should be banned or not.

Link s2z:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mntm3mjymmm[/URL]

Link honmod:
[URL]http://www.mediafire.com/?2vxzaudn5gd (http://www.mediafire.com/?4w2cmnoznjm)

Installation s2z: Put the resourcesDemonHandRange.s2z into "HeroesOfNewerth/game/" directory.
Installation honmod: Through honmod manager.

[Nekit1]

will be honmod?

[DreadTalon]

I suppose it can be.

EDIT: Done.

[Compead0r]

WOW are those circles correct? If so the hands have a MUCH bigger AoE than I thought.

[Nekit1]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8472/picrd.png

^ lol
And icon:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7446/picfo.png

[DreadTalon]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8472/picrd.png

^ lol
And icon:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7446/picfo.png

Fixed and icon added, link updated for new version

[mashmonster]

this + portal key one are fantastic work

[machende]

link doesnt work for the s2z file

[Bailer]

still says the mod is outdated

[DreadTalon]

still says the mod is outdated

Yeah, I accidently deleted the s2z instead of the old honmod version and then somehow copied the wrong link for the new version. Links should be correct now.

[DrDizzle]

Nice mod, I think it became a crutch but it will probably make my SS game tighter now that I have a better idea of how big the actual AOE is. I always thought it was as big as the hand animation, maybe a bit larger, but not that large.

[Nigma]

Cool. I think I'll use this- I knew the AoE was large but damn, it sure is bigger than I thought.

[Chipper]

What UI are you using?

[loGi]

Looks like TinyUI with Diablo 3 theme.

[Ratto]

Looks like TinyUI with Diablo 3 theme.

MiniUI (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=51269) + Diablo 3

[tifo_da]

[RwR]DreadTalon, Thank you!!!

http://rghost.ru/1249733/image.png (http://rghost.ru/1249733.view)

[Magnets1]

this + portal key one are fantastic work

Ability range indicator?

Is there a mod for just portal key and not the others? Got a link to working 3.0 version?

[DreadTalon]

Ability range indicator?

Is there a mod for just portal key and not the others? Got a link to working 3.0 version?

Here is working range indicators for everything in 3.0, I included a item only indicator mod in the same post.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=1269623#post1269623

[DreadTalon]

I like this one :) although its known that the texture you're using is causing lag if displayed on one tower. I don't really like 3 times the effect of this.
With lag I actually mean performance loss.
vsynced idle steady 85fps -> idle steady 65fps.


Hmm, I don't experience the same performance drop, it has an effect of 1-2 frames for me.

[Zipzap]

I love how it still shows the circles when other people are Soul Stealer.

[Zeratos]

None of us past 1700 and who play in BP need the indicator, so this helps newbs understand SS better. Its good in that sense, but i think it dumbs down the game a little since there's little to no effort needed now.


I'd like to see people who rely on this survive in a tourney though, as I believe mods aren't allowed there.

[DreadTalon]

None of us past 1700 and who play in BP need the indicator.

Maybe so, I'm curious; would you go as far as to say that it would do nothing to improve said players game?

[MonsterFeed]

Is there something similar to this mod for corrupted disciple's range skills too?

[mashmonster]

Is there something similar to this mod for corrupted disciple's range skills too?
that would be nice

it is cool when other people are ss you can see them coming way early lolz

[Quzzap]

Hmm, I don't experience the same performance drop, it has an effect of 1-2 frames for me.

I stand corrected, doesn't happen anymore :) (might be because my pc hasn't rebooted quite a while hehe)

[DreadTalon]

Is there something similar to this mod for corrupted disciple's range skills too?

I can produce this in a few minutes if you want it.

[Herandcosch]

A hotkey would be nice for toggling the circles on and off, when you dont play soulstealer...

[DreadTalon]

A hotkey would be nice for toggling the circles on and off, when you dont play soulstealer...
Beyond my modding skill at present. It requires a completely different mod basically.

[liquorice]

A hotkey would be nice for toggling the circles on and off, when you dont play soulstealer...

Yea I agree with this. An ingame hotkey to toggle it would be awesome if it's possible. Maybe you can ask for some help how to do it? Would be nice to have for all your range indicator thingies. (if you do things such as for CD etc).

[GaramChai]

I can produce this in a few minutes if you want it.


Yes please, I want this, and I'm sure others want this too :P

[GameOverGR]

nice mod !! it is very helpful

[MonsterFeed]

I can produce this in a few minutes if you want it.

please do its very helpful thanks

[soundofbread]

this is awesome, will you please make one for devourer so you can see the max range his hook will go?

[Well_Shebber]

Wow. That is quite big.

Makes me wonder why the visual effect is so small.

[DreadTalon]

this is awesome, will you please make one for devourer so you can see the max range his hook will go?

If you follow the link to my item range indicator mod in my signiture you will find a link to a skill range indicator that does that.

[DreadTalon]

please do its very helpful thanks

Alright, I had a quick go at it but there seems to be some unforseen complications. I have to do this AI assignment I have due, I'll try to get it going after I'm done.

[JiggaWugga]

lol, when I saw the tower range indicator, I tried to quickly create my own version of basically this. What I ended up with were little circles shooting out of SS himself, lol. I decided to google it up instead, and have found now a 3rd mod of ppl doing the same thing.

God bless you guys. But, what's funny is, just looking at the pick I don't feel like I need the mod anymore. Seeing the actual range is enough.

I think these types of things should be default, at the very least for practice mode.

[Rocks2BeGood]

... but i think it dumbs down the game a little since there's little to no effort needed now.

this x infinity...maybe i'm just being condescending but i think there are too many mods that make the game easier.

[A1ias]

this x infinity...maybe i'm just being condescending but i think there are too many mods that make the game easier.

The difficulty in landing demon hands isn't as much knowing the distance of each hands since you can pretty much get that estimation perfect by spamming it in one or two practice games. Rotating the hero correctly and knowing when and where to use the demon hands, I think, has more to do with the difficulty of using it.

[Karas3940]

Hi, nice one you made here ^^

Just a thing, that's not really bothering, more useful when you face a soul stealer, but I see the circles also in front of an enemy soul stealer (too bad for him when he tries to hide in forest :P)

anyway, very useful one, thanks man ;)

[linsen]

Hi, nice one you made here ^^

Just a thing, that's not really bothering, more useful when you face a soul stealer, but I see the circles also in front of an enemy soul stealer (too bad for him when he tries to hide in forest :P)

anyway, very useful one, thanks man ;)


oh sweet early maphacks

[Porpoise_God]

oh sweet early maphacks

The server doesn't send information you aren't supposed to have. Thus, you can't maphack with this, the mod wouldn't know where to put the circles. You can however make a not-very-conspicuous SS VERY conspicuous.

Also, those circles are huge compared to the animation, I didn't know there was an area that all 3 hands would hit.

[Herandcosch]

(too bad for him when he tries to hide in forest :P)

Circles cant be shown, when you dont see Soulstealer, its like the Tower Range Circles, you need to have vision on him...

[A`nub`is]

Still you'll see the circles on your screen when you actually won't see soulstealer on your screen (while you do see him on the minimap).

[Herandcosch]

Still you'll see the circles on your screen when you actually won't see soulstealer on your screen (while you do see him on the minimap).

Yeah, thats what I meant, circles just can be drawn if ss is visible, not necessary on the screen, but his position can be checked by the client...

[Xizel]

Seeing the circles move around make me dizzy and I got a headache soon after.

[doctordoder]

works amazing first mod ive got to work hahahaha i love you thanks so much

[jorge69696]

The server doesn't send information you aren't supposed to have. Thus, you can't maphack with this, the mod wouldn't know where to put the circles. You can however make a not-very-conspicuous SS VERY conspicuous.

Also, those circles are huge compared to the animation, I didn't know there was an area that all 3 hands would hit.

There is this game were andromeda was in fog and the water reflected her blue glow. So I went away. My friend even asked "are you maphacking?"

[JiggaWugga]

You can sometimes get a line of sight very near a hero who's jungling and you'll hear them attacking but won't see them on your minimap.

[DaBaine]

Is it just me or are the Circles too big?
As far as i understand Demon hands the circles should have a diameter of 275 not a radius of 275. I'm pretty shure there is no area where u can hit a target with all 3 hands, only 2 areas where they overlap


The Cast range of the 3 Hands are 200/450/700.
The Area of Effect is 275.
So it should look like this
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.0a095efd59.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0a095efd59.jpg)

[Creep666]

^well test it out yourself in practice mode. hooray for triple hand on stunned victims...

[DaBaine]

Damit ur right......... You never stop to learn...

[GoRaVeNs]

...wow really...cant people just use skill to throw their demon hands...kinda defeats the purpose of playing HoN

[HellRoxYa]

Maybe so, I'm curious; would you go as far as to say that it would do nothing to improve said players game?

It'd do nothing for me, I know that much.

[Xzero_]

Is it just me or are the Circles too big?
As far as i understand Demon hands the circles should have a diameter of 275 not a radius of 275. I'm pretty shure there is no area where u can hit a target with all 3 hands, only 2 areas where they overlap


The Cast range of the 3 Hands are 200/450/700.
The Area of Effect is 275.
So it should look like this
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.0a095efd59.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0a095efd59.jpg)

Has anyone tested if this was true?

[Taiya]

Is it just me or are the Circles too big?
As far as i understand Demon hands the circles should have a diameter of 275 not a radius of 275. I'm pretty shure there is no area where u can hit a target with all 3 hands, only 2 areas where they overlap


The Cast range of the 3 Hands are 200/450/700.
The Area of Effect is 275.
So it should look like this
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.0a095efd59.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0a095efd59.jpg)

http://i44.tinypic.com/3358rvl.jpg

The circles seem accurate to me anyway, i might have done something wrong.

[SoyAwesome]

wow, nice SS explaining the radius :D

[Compeador]

It'd do nothing for me, I know that much.

I tried this and tbh I found it more detrimental to gameplay as the circles waving around all the time were very distracting. Much easier to focus on things and actually land good hand hits without it.

[Khakhan]

That screenshot is very helpful. The animation is so deceiving, seeing how much they really do overlap is at least something most people can learn from.

[Raycrash]

Any chance that this will be baked into the "all self-casting ability ranges" ?

[SoyAwesome]

S2 Games is going to allow this mod???? ...hope they will

[Batchman]

sure why not make hard hero noob friendly, sure hes beast if u can land hands and with this any noob can do it, so nerf ss :D

[JOSHPFANBOY]

Can someone explain to me why mods like these are allowed? Hell, apparently it allows you to see your enemies circles too, which is crossing the line.

Got the valk mod, which redid the buffs back down to nerfs.

Rampage charge song thing, which I was cool with but the pointer popped up on you when he charged you from any distance on the map.

And this. I can understand UI advantages or other small things, but really.

[Compeador]

Cool your skivvies people. Try installing the mod. See how annoying it is for people who already know the ranges. Uninstall it. See how much better your hand placement is now. That is the only benefit of the mod.

While the mod is active it's a huge distraction for the user.

[It`sOver9000]

Compeador? The homo mass guardian player from DoW?

[Compeador]

Lol actually yea but I had about 37 unique builds homey. Check GR.org, DoWsanctuary, and ESL for some examples.

[Sayko]

I would love if you add a (customisable) hotkey button to switch this mod on/off, cause for me at least its kinda anoying to see it all the time, i feel kinda weird, but when the action beggins and i need it for more precition then i can turn it on.

Can you do that?

ps: and add an opacity/colour change too!

[a_cloth]

I love how it still shows the circles when other people are Soul Stealer.
helps s000 much

[DarkZero901]

not working for the new HoN

edit: nevermind!

[Eignad]

not working for the new HoN

edit: nevermind!

How? Tried .s2z, did not work for me

[Xardas]

How? Tried .s2z, did not work for me
Here u go:
Demon Hand Fixed Version (http://www.mediafire.com/?nzezjnjjjug)

[Eignad]

Here u go:
Demon Hand Fixed Version (http://www.mediafire.com/?nzezjnjjjug)

Cheers! :)

[Dormammu]

Can this be updated for this version cant seem to get it to work.

[`Barrage]

Still not working, update please. (:

[`King]

why the hell when i click on your link it doesnt download anything ? how do i download this soulstealer demon hand mod ?

[`King]

can someone help me get this mod for the soulstealer demon hands ? please ? :souls:

[turdle]

id love an update to this too

[SmokeShow]

No update???

[Tankie]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6493457/SS_Aoe_Range/SS_Aoe_Range.honmod
sheesh

EDIT: this came from http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=1495255

EDIT 2: if you must have this one from this thread http://www.mediafire.com/?ejn0jztvjyz

[Zeak]

Can you please update this mid ?? :D i would be SOO greatful

[DreadTalon]

So, I have been away for several months. With the rate that patches are changing, I have given up with the version checking for all the mods I use myself; I suggest you do the same. To avoid version checking you may open the honmod with winRAR, open the mod.xml and edit the version line near to the top to reflect the current HoN version. Alternatively you can just open HoN, alt tab to the desktop and then open the mod manager, it will give a message saying version checking is disabled. With version checking gone you can activate any mod you want regardless of version, this doesn't mean that every old mod will work, but it is no different to simply changing the version in the xml.

[Dragonslejer]

Don't update, please. It's blatant cheating.

[Tankie]

^ troll
v troll

[Sunneyboy]

I hope they start allowing aimbots in FPS games aswell!

[Valorium]

You win an award for worst analogy of the year.

[ObeseSheep]

Don't update, please. It's blatant cheating.

You don't need this mod. Look at the bloody circles, they are huge. :souls: hands are so easy to hit.

[Johny_Hubert]

^this

[PokAlotaSmot]

It is still saying that the .honmod file is out dated for me.

And also, i noticed you're using the Diablo mod, do you still have the updated link for that?

-
thanks

[Eyelashes]

Jeez, lots of people crying in this thread. If you don't like it, just don't use it.

[DreadTalon]

It is still saying that the .honmod file is out dated for me.

And also, i noticed you're using the Diablo mod, do you still have the updated link for that?

-
thanks
You don't need updated links, the old Diablo UI works just fine. There is a line inside honmods that says what version they are written for, if it doesnt match the current patch version the modman wont let you apply it. This doesn't mean that the mods don't work. Just start hon, alt+tab back to desktop, open the modmanager, it will give a message saying version checking is disabled. Then you can activate any mod you like.

[Magenus]

PLz update!

[Magenus]

You don't need updated links, the old Diablo UI works just fine. There is a line inside honmods that says what version they are written for, if it doesnt match the current patch version the modman wont let you apply it. This doesn't mean that the mods don't work. Just start hon, alt+tab back to desktop, open the modmanager, it will give a message saying version checking is disabled. Then you can activate any mod you like.
Thanks :)

[zergscum]

I can't believe mods like this are allowed.

[SilverBullet]

Updated for 1.0.12.1
just had to change few numbers , hope it helps!
http://www.mediafire.com/?c7e607v4r7astjv

[Stryker]

Is the AOE on the hands still as big as it is in the original post? Or has it been changed?

[SilverBullet]

Is the AOE on the hands still as big as it is in the original post? Or has it been changed?

still the same

[SilverBullet]

Updated for 1.0.13.1
http://www.mediafire.com/?35acc279o8hs15j

[YO_GRANMAMA]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8472/picrd.png

^ lol
And icon:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7446/picfo.png

its not that hard to fix that lol..all uhave to do is edit the xml file so that the version sais just "*" instead of 0.21* or w.e then put it back into the honmod file...

use win rar/winzip to open a hon mod file btw....and extract xml...and when u wanan put back the xml u use the "add file" button ont he winrar/zip interface...

and umm always keep a coppy the original of ANY file ur gonna tweak so if u mess up ...ur original is right there..

Derp

[Axl]

If you know how to play Soulstealer, you'll find that this mod isn't that beneficial. This is because you pause for a split second to see if the enemy is lined up in the circle before you fire off your nuke whereas without the mod, you react instantly by pure instinct. Often, the enemy will get away because Soulstealer doesn't have a slow or stun and every moment counts.

[SilverBullet]

final update : Download (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12743205/DH.honmod)

[SininePanda]

can install ..i click proceed to download then it says s2z something where can i get the program
????

[Wae_to_hoT]

cant start it with win7

[Moosplauze]

can not apply, outdated :(

[Awan`Afuqya]

This Mod is abandoned. Stop posting!

Use this:
Range Indicators (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=169981)

[He]

This Mod is abandoned. Stop posting!

Use this:
Range Indicators (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=169981)

...and if you want Soulstealer's Demon Hands only. I have one here (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=169981#extra).

[SCOUTMIDKTHX]

im slowly begining to convert to range indicators instead of only ss range and a few others.

but i like how in this mod DemonHand range Circles, the circles are much more visible.

in Range indicators, Soulstealers circles are really weak. is there a way i can make them more visible?

[Greens]

how do i download this mod??? sum1 pls help!!

[Smokin`Ganja]

wave bye-bye to raw skill :/