Check-Six Gaming HoN [x6] Press Release

[HunteR_]

Check-Six FULL PRESS RELEASE: http://check6gaming.com/2010/03/02/check-six-gaming-heroes-of-newerth
http://check6gaming.com/media/content/feature/2010/03/02/x6hon.jpg

In a rapidly growing e-sport community, Check Six Gaming is the first US organization to sponsor a team on Heroes of Newerth and are very proud of whom we picked up. Despite HoN still being in beta, the game has a lot of hype and potential to be the next big e-sport, already with tournament announcements at the very successful LAN organization Dreamhack. Check Six wanted to get a head start amongst the other organizations and we have accomplished that.

There is nothing but a bright future for both Check Six Gaming and Heroes of Newerth, and we are just excited to be a part of the early building process. We look forward on not only seeing Check Six Gaming succeed, but competitive HoN growing as a whole.


New Check Six HoN: http://check6gaming.com/teams/ (http://check6gaming.com/teams/)


Jae Hyung [x6]chu` Park
Jeff [x6]warden Linden
Jeff [x6]Pig' Tang
Josh [x6]bkid Choi
john [x6]merc pham
Jun [x6]Dodo` Kang
Orie [x6]BoRoMMaKoT Guo

Read the full press release, see pictures, and check out the full line-up
HERE: http://check6gaming.com/2010/03/02/check-six-gaming-heroes-of-newerth

Support HoN as an eSport!

[SolarFlare22]

How do they decide who plays in each match if there's more than 5?

Is chu` the captain? Does he decide?

[HunteR_]

Chu` is in Canada so he doesn't go to the local So-Cal LANs

They have a solid 5 they use for online and offline.

[JelloBoy]

Kool, didn't realize there were so many azns

[DImported]

Lots of names starting with J.

[Pro]

How do they decide who plays in each match if there's more than 5?

huh the best 5 play and the other 2 are reserve for when someone is not available? (ill, no internet etc)

[lysol]

so many asians

i bet i can guess which picture is wardens

[Pyrate]

Am I the only one that sees it as just weird that people come along claiming to be a "gaming organisation", when in fact all they do is pay some people who had talent in the first place to use their name. Hunter goes around spreading the word about the Check Six team, when in fact Check Six and Hunter had zero involvement in the team getting to where they are.

Is it just an American thing??? I know you guys have it with your sports teams that just up and move to a city who offer them more cash, but really, claiming WHP as your own when all you did was give them some free stuff on the condition they use your name, after they already won a bunch of stuff.

Also, the Accomplishments on the site are wrong, WHP won all that stuff, not Check Six. You cant claim those for Check Six, you guys had nothing to do with WHP winning those comps.

[Nasty``]

well done

[Rekondo]

Also, the Accomplishments on the site are wrong, WHP won all that stuff, not Check Six. You cant claim those for Check Six, you guys had nothing to do with WHP winning those comps.
WHP = x6

They changed name.

[PhaYthoX]

Am I the only one that sees it as just weird that people come along claiming to be a "gaming organisation", when in fact all they do is pay some people who had talent in the first place to use their name. Hunter goes around spreading the word about the Check Six team, when in fact Check Six and Hunter had zero involvement in the team getting to where they are.

Is it just an American thing??? I know you guys have it with your sports teams that just up and move to a city who offer them more cash, but really, claiming WHP as your own when all you did was give them some free stuff on the condition they use your name, after they already won a bunch of stuff.

Also, the Accomplishments on the site are wrong, WHP won all that stuff, not Check Six. You cant claim those for Check Six, you guys had nothing to do with WHP winning those comps.

you should maybe ask your parents what a sponsor does before writing stupid posts.

[coolmans]

Is it just me or the look like sc kekekekeke's.

[gozuu]

WHP = x6

They changed name.


As in:


WHP wong those tournaments before they got sponsered by x6, thus making x6 unable to claim those tournament accomplishments as they did not sponser WHP at that time.

[Pyrate]

you should maybe ask your parents what a sponsor does before writing stupid posts.

Most sponsors dont go around claiming victories from before they were even involved


WHP = x6

They changed name.

x6 are the team sponsors, if they pulled out the team would be called WHP still. Check Six as a sponsor can't claim victories that they had zero involvement in.

http://check6gaming.com/teams/

This is the page that has the problems, its the Check Six site claiming that these are their accomplishments

1st Place HoN League 2009
1st place HoN League: Check-Six SideWinder
1st place GameReplays TS1: II Tournament
1st place fnatic.PLAY Tournament
Intel.Lanfest 2010

The thing thats out of place is that CheckSix had nothing to do with any of those apart from Intel.Lanfest (which hasn't happened yet), and thats hardly an achievement, its $25 to go. Thats like saying buying my dinner was a noteworthy achievement.

[PhaYthoX]

Most sponsors dont go around claiming victories from before they were even involved

so if i buy the bulls and make them rename into "the cows" all their previous wins and history are gone?


also quote the part which is such a big problem for you.cause i just dont see a prob anywhere.

[gozuu]

so if i buy the bulls and make them rename into "the cows" all their previous wins and history are gone?


also quote the part which is such a big problem for you.cause i just dont see a prob anywhere.


I don't think you understand it correctly.

WHP won a couple of tournaments before winning the x6 tournament and a sponsership from x6. WHP changed name to x6 to match their mainsponsers name(like any team, in cycling for example). While playing in x6, they won one or two tournaments, they should be listed as accomplishments while in x6. Their accomplishments while in WHP should not be listed on x6 homepage as it has nothing to do with x6.

[Pyrate]

so if i buy the bulls and make them rename into "the cows" all their previous wins and history are gone?


also quote the part which is such a big problem for you.cause i just dont see a prob anywhere.

no, but you wouldn't claim the Cows won all the titles, you would still say the Bulls won the titles.

[Rekondo]

Most sponsors dont go around claiming victories from before they were even involved



x6 are the team sponsors, if they pulled out the team would be called WHP still. Check Six as a sponsor can't claim victories that they had zero involvement in.
I don't get a word of what you're trying to tell. You say that the team is still WHP, and the sponsor is Check Six.

It's still the same damn team who played those matches, and the name change doesn't change the fact that they won those competitions.

[gozuu]

I don't get a word of what you're trying to tell. You say that the team is still WHP, and the sponsor is Check Six.

It's still the same damn team who played those matches, and the name change doesn't change the fact that they won those competitions.


You just won't get it, will you?

x6 gaming lists accomplishments made by WHP, back when they were named WHP. Today, they are branded x6(We agree it's the same team) but their current team and mainsponser had nothing to do with their previous accomplishments.

Let's put it this way:

If SK.GAMING's DotA squad all changed to MyM, would MyM list SK.GAMING's DotA Squad's accomplishments on their website? I don't think so.

[Pyrate]

I don't get a word of what you're trying to tell. You say that the team is still WHP, and the sponsor is Check Six.

It's still the same damn team who played those matches, and the name change doesn't change the fact that they won those competitions.

It does when Check Six (the company, not the team) are using those wins from before they had anything to do with WHP/x6 to enhance their image.

[Rekondo]

It does when Check Six (the company, not the team) are using those wins from before they had anything to do with WHP/x6 to enhance their image.
Still the same team. That's all I'm saying.

[Crazyloon]

so if i buy the bulls and make them rename into "the cows" all their previous wins and history are gone?


also quote the part which is such a big problem for you.cause i just dont see a prob anywhere.

Essentially... no, but that is just it. They become history. If you rename the Bulls into the Cows, then the Cows still own 0 wins.

I do not think it is right for Check 6 to claim victory, because that was not the name of the team at the time, nor was it under sponsorship.

Think of it like this:

Seattle Super Sonics moved away from WA. When they play as the Oaklahoma Whatevers, they can not claim that the Oaklahoma Whatevers went to the playoffs in 92', because infact, they did not, it was the Sonics that did so. (this is somewhat fictional, I'm just proving a point)

[Grimsteel]

I bet they get laid ALOT..
Just kidding, x6 is awesome doesnt really matter who they meet they win most of the times anyway.

[Anchovies]

I see your point Pyrate but to be fair, the Check 6 site does mention that they were previously known as WHP as well as the point at which they were picked up by x6.

Anyway, it's good to see the eSport scene in HoN beginning to develop.

[t9sniper]

dodo and merc are mostly back ups, their starters are "usually" chu, warden, pig, borrowmakot, and bkid

[coolmans]

He's wearing a mask

[Pro]

agree with pyrate in terms of check six not having to do anything with the former success of whp (kinda feels like they pique themselves on what WHP achieved without any actual participation by check six.)

But meh, whatever. Who cares, I'm glad there is esport already lol.

[notpebbles]

agree with pyrate in terms of check six not having to do anything with the former success of whp (kinda feels like they pique themselves on what WHP achieved without any actual participation by check six.)

But meh, whatever. Who cares, I'm glad there is esport already lol.


check six dont have anything to do with the future x6 wins either. There's no problem with them listing wins when they were still whp because there's no difference between then and now except for the name.

It's a computer game, being sponsored by check six doesn't provide them state of the art training facilities or anything that will actually make them better.

[MARCUS]

Are you [REQ] guys retarded? Hunter gave most of them the beta keys for HoN.

And yes check 6 did win those titles because they are the same players. If it was new players under the tag then I could see your point.

Do us all a favour stop posting. You sound stupid.

[raced]

"...CheckSix is one of the longest standing and most well known names in eSports."

Why do they fluff up how good of a gaming organization x6 is? Evil Geniuses, Complexity, Pandemic, and Gravitas come to mind when I think of top American gaming organizations.

x6? Lol. Not to mention they only have a HoN team at this moment...whatever.

[brbfarming]

Chu` is in Canada so he doesn't go to the local So-Cal LANs

They have a solid 5 they use for online and offline.

does this mean he wont be participating in the alienware final?

[pLoLock]

Everyone in the team has a name starting with "J" except one.

Rofl!

[Nasty``]

i've never heard of check six before, maybe because we have so much more good clans in europe

[Ravel]

How is it so hard to see Pyrate's point? Are people really that stupid? That "cows =/= bulls" example was perfect and some guys still don't get it. Oh the stupidity...

[Pyrate]

Are you [REQ] guys retarded? Hunter gave most of them the beta keys for HoN.

And yes check 6 did win those titles because they are the same players. If it was new players under the tag then I could see your point.

Do us all a favour stop posting. You sound stupid.

you are one of the few people posting in this thread that dont think its poor form from Check Six to include WHP achievements on their Check Six Page. x6 had zero involvement in those wins. You dont hear managers of sports teams putting on their resume that they managed a team that won 15 Championship Titles....even though none of them were when they were involved

As for the information on Hunter giving them keys, It would be nice if you included a source. How did Hunter know these guys before HoN???

[MindBender]

Atleast we know now that 'Chu is human. And not a robot send from the future to pnw all noobs in the present !!!

[Ravel]

This argument is retarded.

Bad analogy.
The correct analogy would be a change in ownership resulting in a name change.
Example:
Bob owns the Lakers. Bob sells the Lakers to Joe. Joe renames them the Bulls.
Do the Bulls have the wins of the Lakers?

The answer DOESN'T matter, and analogies aren't going to prove one person right or wrong. If the x6 members don't have an issue with their previous wins being listed on the website, then what does it matter?
There isn't a conflict with a previous sponsor.

Yes it does matter. Some guys win a tournament. Months/weeks later, x6 buys those guys. Did x6 win any tournament? No. It's simple. It's NOT the achievement of x6.

Or in your example: No, the Bulls do not have the wins of the Lakers, why would they? At the time those wins were achieved, the Bulls didn't even exist.

[JEmming]

Yes it does matter. Some guys win a tournament. Months/weeks later, x6 buys those guys. Did x6 win any tournament? No. It's simple. It's NOT the achievement of x6.

Or in your example: No, the Bulls do not have the wins of the Lakers, why would they? At the time those wins were achieved, the Bulls didn't even exist.Why does it matter?




As for the information on Hunter giving them keys, It would be nice if you included a source. How did Hunter know these guys before HoN???Podcast interview with x6 when they won the tournament for sponsorship.

[Ravel]

Why does it matter?


Because you can't flag wins for yourself when you didn't achieve them. It's not honest.

[JEmming]

Because you can't flag wins for yourself when you didn't achieve them. It's not honest.
I'm sure the heavy traffic this website is getting is just creating a throng of misinformed internet users who would be completely devastated to find out that they were lied to about the name of the team when they won their tournaments.
Trust me, it's not for you to worry about. It's for the members of x6 and the admins of the website. If you really feel cheated by it all then don't go to the website. No one cares about your opinion.

[Dyzfunkshun]

As for the information on Hunter giving them keys, It would be nice if you included a source. How did Hunter know these guys before HoN???
http://honcast.com/2010/02/podcast-interview-with-whp/
Source there.
Hunter has known the WHP guys (at least the core of the team) from before HoN was even released, back when they all played competetive DotA. He then set them up with keys to come play HoN, and has had a lot of involvement with them all the way up until he picked up their team to sponsor, and infact revealed he was hoping WHP would win, because he has quite a history with them. It's hardly like he picked random good players out of the blue and then took credit for all their success, it's been a long standing relationship, that the x6 tournament made official.

[huY]

lol. Their names all start with a J except one.

[vgr]

Where is fpigs? :s

[ph1l]

so the essential information in this thread is, that i can now wait for check six (or another clan) to win all the major tournaments till release, then start a sponsorship and claim all their trophies back to the day these 5 guys first started playing together? that does officialy sound retarded.

[HoBSoN]

sponsorshis promoting their teams... wtf u dont see nike, coke, pepsi, super glue, red bull, etc etc etc... doing that kind of crap... what a rip off

[FilionTeras]

I don't get a word of what you're trying to tell. You say that the team is still WHP, and the sponsor is Check Six.

It's still the same damn team who played those matches, and the name change doesn't change the fact that they won those competitions.

yes, the team can say that they won these games under a different name, but the organisation CANNOT say that "the team that wer sponsor won these tournaments" because they had NO relationship with the team before that

[IntErlIdEr]

If WHP doesn't care, why would anyone bring up any downies?

I'm a big fan of x6. Keep it up!

~IntEr

PS: Chu` is so annoying in-game - yet plays so well.

[HunteR_]

Thank you all for the feedback and your support for HoN as an eSport.

I understand this is the "internetz" and it's fun to flame/degrade others.

I have high hopes that the HoN community won't be as immature as it's DotA counterpart has been famous for.

Please be thoughtful and respectful to other players and organizations trying to help grow with HoN.

Lastly, listing a team's achievements is very standard, no matter the callsign. There have been over 7 tournaments/events they've won that are not on the list, including three recent GameReplay tournament wins SINCE being Check-Six.

For those of you who gave thoughtful opionions, I do appreciate them.

PS. Achievements earned as team check-six for all of our games and teams are listed here:
http://wiki.gotfrag.com/index.php/Check_Six

Those are of course AFTER they become check-six ;) not before, but the listing on our site is the team's accomplishments for HoN in General.

[Aiyse]

Also, the Accomplishments on the site are wrong, WHP won all that stuff, not Check Six. You cant claim those for Check Six, you guys had nothing to do with WHP winning those comps.
It lists "Team Accomplishments", which they did accomplish as that team, now stop posting sounding like a bitter kid.

BoRoM looks angry in that pic :warb:

[Maide]

Thread cleaned up and moved to C&C from GB.

[pakoito]

http://www.starcraft-overmind.ic.cz/Starcraft/2b.jpg

http://check6gaming.com/media/flags/kr.png [x6]chu`

[BALZDEPE]

where is fpigs

[LokoLoko]

Where is fpigs? :s

and fujiapples, and fooooz.. o.o

[uniplex]

I have high hopes that the HoN community won't be as immature as it's DotA counterpart has been famous for.

You are not in any position to call someone immature considering the way you handled your departure with DXD.

I am not surprised my post got deleted. Some day people will eventually know your true nature, and no amount of moderation will prevent that.

[Kanadian]

I think most people know how he "used" to be, but maybe he's turned a new leaf. I, for one, have noticed him acting much more mature in the hon community. And I mean... wasn't maliken all spewing off at the mouth calling people niggers? cmon now.

[awayish`]

thsi thread is lol

[IKHAN]

^ i agree

[HunteR_]

:) Haters gonna hate. Support HoN, Pre-Purchase HoN new for just $30 Dollars.

http://www.nigmanoname.com/hatersgonnahate.jpg

[joeltee]

Everyone posting here is making themselves look bad.

Ow my foot I shot myself...

[mtx]

chu` i got an msg for u! pwn Angrytestie on mid the next time u play against him :p i know ure better than him! Im serious :) and looking for more enjoyable replays from u. Its just joy to watch

[alexandre]

oh they are all asian... mistery solved

[saranghaeyo1]

bkid is such a cutie patootie

[seks]

damn that check6 tournament was a big deal then; no wonder five doesn't get along wit em

[coolmans]

oh they are all asian... mistery solved

kekekekeke=gg

[ROFLWAFLE]

Where are the other x6 players? Foooz, FujiApples, and fpigs

[coolmans]

Where are the other x6 players? Foooz, FujiApples, and fpigs


hunter keeps them in cages, they have no families,hopes or illusions and they are constantly fed bread and water.

[Kolapz]

hunter keeps them in cages, they have no families,hopes or illusions and they are constantly fed rice and sake.

Fixed

[Skellington]

Poor warden is the minority. http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7839/aznsupplies.gif (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/aznsupplies.gif/)

When I grow up I want to be Asian.

[bmoc]

Whoever used the basketball analogy and said that renaming a team causes them to lose their wins is ignorant. When the Sonics moved to oklahoma and became the Thunder they still refer to their seasons before being the Thunder as the Thunder. So yes just because your name is different doesn't mean your accomplishments disappear.

Oh and lol at the idiot who said that only Americans do this sponsorship thing when European and Asian gaming started the whole trend of sponsors.

If you honestly don't know who x6 is you shouldn't even be posting on a competitive gaming board. If you think that Gravitas is anywhere on the level that x^ has been you are seriously misguided.

None of them look Filipino. Am I correct in this assumption?

[wing`]

So are Fpigs Fooooz and Fuji using WHP tags again??

[Nightmyre]

It's just shameless promotion that any E-Sport Sponsor would do right now.

[LokoLoko]

I find it funny how hunter opens a thread to promote his team site and stuff, but he keeps his mouth shut when everyone is asking about the other whp/x6 players.
Thumbs down.

[Archatype]

if the players have a korean flag by their name, does that mean they were born in korea?

[JustinSynth]

Whoever used the basketball analogy and said that renaming a team causes them to lose their wins is ignorant. When the Sonics moved to oklahoma and became the Thunder they still refer to their seasons before being the Thunder as the Thunder. So yes just because your name is different doesn't mean your accomplishments disappear.

Oh and lol at the idiot who said that only Americans do this sponsorship thing when European and Asian gaming started the whole trend of sponsors.

If you honestly don't know who x6 is you shouldn't even be posting on a competitive gaming board. If you think that Gravitas is anywhere on the level that x^ has been you are seriously misguided.

He didn't say renaming, he said new management bought them out. He was saying that it wasn't right for the new management to claim all the achievements of the old management when they did nothing to help them.

[saranghaeyo1]

kr #1

[Ashur]

Lol most of their names start with J...it's a conspiracy I tell you!

[Headbus]

I didn't know chu was Canadian. Does that mean I'm good at hon too?

[pk_thunder]

I didn't know chu was Canadian. Does that mean I'm good at hon too?
he's korean, he just lives in canada

[documents]

Yea, let's try to not fill the C+C chat with garbage press releases. Post this on your own site.

This is almost worse than posting that a clan broke up.

[bmoc]

He didn't say renaming, he said new management bought them out. He was saying that it wasn't right for the new management to claim all the achievements of the old management when they did nothing to help them.

Except anyone who knows anything knows that Hunter has been helping them out since before they even played HoN

[HunteR_]

I find it funny how hunter opens a thread to promote his team site and stuff, but he keeps his mouth shut when everyone is asking about the other whp/x6 players.
Thumbs down.

They have a large team, they're friends before team mates.

They told me to put those "starters" on thier roster. If they have more, I'll add :)

Relax!

[LokoLoko]

Okay!

[avalon`]

Jae
Jeff
Jeff
Josh
john
Jun
Orie

borom is out of place.

[KingDerp]

Names beginning with "J" x6 O.O

Magic

[Brazzergs]

Yes it does matter. Some guys win a tournament. Months/weeks later, x6 buys those guys. Did x6 win any tournament? No. It's simple. It's NOT the achievement of x6.

Or in your example: No, the Bulls do not have the wins of the Lakers, why would they? At the time those wins were achieved, the Bulls didn't even exist.

IT is x6 accomplishement NOW, because chu and company are now a part of x6, and they list those tournaments as theirs even tho their name was different. Are you telling us chu, bkid and so on don't deserve to have their titles listed ON THEIR WEBPAGE now that they've changed the team name? All of the efforts they did under the WHP tag should be left behind and not count for them?

Don't treat this as teams, but as individuals. Lakers change players every now and then, one year's lineup might differ completely from next's. WHP didn't change anything but the name.

[Freshpro]

Dam chu is cute, bkid is A_X

[kuroYMT]

i want to see chu meepo now with portal key