Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod 2.1.2 (last update: 04/10/2010)

[BadAssKicker]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3103/ingamemod.png
Big Hero Guide is outdated, use the other guide mod (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=12431882).


This is a mod to view the basic info of the Big Hero Guide ingame. Modified recommended items according to the guide, skill build, starting items and 30 sec guides for every hero. First row of recommended items ingame are starting items, second row are core items, third row are after-core and last row are alternative or luxury items, wards and homecoming stones (in some cases there wasn't enough room on the last row, so you'll find the homecoming stones some rows up). (Recommended items for wildsoul were a bit tricky. Wildsoul and bear items are seperated by a empty space). The first three rows of items are placed in the order you buy them, you can buy anything from the last row without any order, but in most cases AFTER your finished buying your after-core items. Starting items often contain multiple minor totems, runes of the blight or mana potions, so watch out for the starting item info.

I used the Custom Recommended Items Mod by Keshoon to edit the recommended item list ingame according to this guide. The new layout was created by using the Minor Totem Ingame Mod's code by Rush152. He helped me a lot to modify the code. The new 30 seconds mod was created by Silv3ri, big thanks to him. All the codes I used was done by the permission of their authors, credits go to them. Lots of thanks to Newti for the Big Hero Guide of course!

If you want to make custom edits to the recommended items, use the Custom Recommended program. Download the crsettings.xml and replace it with the existing one. Don't forget to apply each change. If you are done replace the entire code from customrecommended.honmod (without header) with the one in my mod.

Position and size of the 30 seconds mod is edited with Movable Frames ingame.

Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod is incompatible with some texture/skin mods that edit the hero.entitiy file. Recommended items wont be listed.


Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/205.jpg


Big Hero Guide 30 Seconds

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/screen-2.jpg

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Changelog

Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod:

- 04/10/2010 v2.1.2: Movable Frames fix - thanks to Igomiju (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=193912)

- 02/10/2010 v2.1.1: 1.0.13 fix
- 21/07/2010 v2.1.0: crsettings.xml updated for new Recommended Items Mod version
- 11/07/2010 v2.1.0: Some minor fixes
- 02/07/2010 v2.0.9: Some minor fixes
- 10/06/2010 v2.0.8: Added Tundra
- 10/06/2010 v2.0.7: All heroes updated
- 10/06/2010 v2.0.6: Added Balphagore and Bubbles info
- 09/06/2010 v2.0.5: Big Hero Guide INT Updates
- 03/06/2010 v2.0.4: Big Hero Guide AGI Updates, removed 30 sec guides
- 01/06/2010 v2.0.3: Changed design, hero avatar + name removed, added Movable Frame function to trigger button
- 30/05/2010 v2.0.2: Layout updated - transparency, starting items are icons and less unused space
- 30/05/2010 v2.0.1: New mod layout
- 13/05/2010 v1.0: Big Hero GuideSTR + Fayde updates, 1.0.0 update
- 10/05/2010 v0.16.1: 0.3.6 update, alternative skill builds for some heroes
- 09/05/2010 v0.16: Big Hero Guide AGI and INT updates
- 28/04/2010 v0.15.1: Fixed Fayde error
- 22/04/2010 v0.15: Added Fayde info
- 12/04/2010 v0.14: Big Hero Guide STR updates
- 11/04/2010 v0.13: Added Chipper info
- 05/04/2010 v0.12: Big Hero Guide INT updates
- 03/04/2010 v0.11: code optimization => no entities_en.str file to replace, works with more mods together and a lot smaller
- 01/04/2010 v0.9: Big Hero Guide AGI updates
- 30/03/2010 v0.8: auto-update function for honmod, merged Keshoon's mod with mine => single s2z file and single honmod file
- 25/03/2010 v0.7: HoN Patch 0.3.0
- 24/03/2010 v0.6: .honmod and .s2z file format, added starting item info by hovering over ultimate skill
- 23/03/2010 v0.5: Big Hero Guide updates
- 27/02/2010 v0.4: Big Hero Guide updates
- 25/02/2010 v0.3: Added Custom Recommended mod for self editing to archieve, fixed mistakes in entities_en.str, changed archieve format to .zip
- 24/02/2010 v0.2: Homecoming Stone added to recommended items for all heroes at the bottom right, minor tweaks
- 18/02/2010 v0.1: Release

Big Hero Guide 30 Seconds:

- 04/10/2010 v1.0.2: Movable Frames fix

- 02/10/2010 v1.0.1: 1.0.13 fix
- 11/07/2010 v1.0.0: Release

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Download Links

Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod:

.honmod
- Dropbox (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7428520/Big%20Hero%20Guide%20Ingame/big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod)
- HoN Repo (http://repo.hon-central.net/dl/uimods_other/229894/1109/)

crsettings.xml
- Dropbox (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7428520/Big%20Hero%20Guide%20Ingame/crsettings.xml)

Big Hero Guide 30 Seconds:

.honmod
- Dropbox (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7428520/Big%20Hero%20Guide%2030%20Seconds/big_hero_guide_30sec.honmod)
- HoN Repo (http://repo.hon-central.net/download/unapproved/uimods_other/1052.zip)

guides.zip
- Dropbox (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7428520/Big%20Hero%20Guide%2030%20Seconds/guides.zip)
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Installation

1.
Put *.honmod to ...\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\

(create the mods folder if it doesn't exist and download and unzip the mod manager to the same folder, for more information, check the Mod Manager Thread (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=25883))

2.
Apply mod with HoN_ModMan.exe (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=25883)

3. (for 30 sec guides)
Extract guides folder to ...\Heroes of Newerth\game\ so that all the .txt files are in ...\Heroes of Newerth\game\guides\

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Credits

- Newti for the Big Hero Guide (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=64274)
- Keshoon for the Custom Recommended Items Mod (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=39941)
- Rush152 for the Minor Totem Ingame Mod (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=112909)
- Silv3ri for the coding

[Tehwildcard]

Looking good man. Could you add homecoming stone to recommended items, though? It's an item you really need fast access to.

[Keshoon]

Really nice, this is with that big hero guide you can just use CTRL+F to find the hero? Also glad to see my application used for this!

[ShredderIV]

could you please set it up in the normal way at all? mac users cant use winrar...

[BadAssKicker]

@keshoon yea thats the ctrl+f guide and thanks for your mod man, you did a nice job there. Hope you don't mind if I use it here.

@shredder What do you mean with normal way??


Updated with homecoming stones and some minor tweaks.

[Littlescuba]

Home coming is kinda easy to get think its the first keybind item i memorized. B+R+D. Good to have in recommended though.

[MaxGhost]

BadAssKicker he means Macs can't unzip .rar files (which they can with 7zip for mac). I suggest you just make it one big .honmod or .s2z instead.

[Littlescuba]

Think you could put out the other file so i could fix things i want or is there a way to convert the file back to the file or the mod.

[BadAssKicker]

@max: so you just proved they can unzip the archieve. Also I don't have a clue how to make a honmod file, I would need help with that, but I don't know any modders.

@scuba: I'm not sure what you mean. If you are talking about the settings file that the custom recommended mod uses, they are on my laptop. I can upload them later.

[Littlescuba]

yeah the same thing you did the last time so I could add your settings to my custom recommended mod for some reason if I just download this file it will only update the game not the mod itself. Guess it thinks I'm still using another file I don't know. Wish there was a way just to convert it back but don't think the mod does that.

[BadAssKicker]

Update!

Added the files for self editing to the archieve, scuba. Have fun.

[MaxGhost]

They can only unrar by downloading another program. That's inconvenient. Don't make it .rar. Make it a .zip if anything.

[BadAssKicker]

Ok, it will be zip then.

Links updated.

[Littlescuba]

ty sir

[BadAssKicker]

Updated with the official big hero guide updates.

[TaiIs]

I'm having a problem-
When I copy the Game folder over, all of my mods stop working. When I apply my mods, the stat suggestions do not show up.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

[BadAssKicker]

Hm that's strange.

In your Heroes of Newerth/game folder there should the stringtables folder. But it shouldn't effect other mods. I don't know what's wrong with yours.

[TaiIs]

Yah, as soon as I replace that .str file, my mods stop working.
Meh, I alt tab easily enough, I have the big guide up usually when I'm playing so it's not a huge issue.
Thanks!

[nota]

Suggestion: There's a few skills that just have too much text (ults) and the skill build text from this mod pushes it off screen. Because you don't need it under every skill and level up; how about when you rollover the player image (or something similar)

[Bhaz]

Thanks for this, really helpful.

[Peril]

So this doesnt work with HonMode.exe? How do you get it working ingame then?

[Pathard]

Awesome mod! I love it.

[BadAssKicker]

Suggestion: There's a few skills that just have too much text (ults) and the skill build text from this mod pushes it off screen. Because you don't need it under every skill and level up; how about when you rollover the player image (or something similar)
Tell me which heroes these are and I'll try something.


So this doesnt work with HonMode.exe? How do you get it working ingame then?
Please read the instructions in the first post, if you have any trouble with it, ask me a specific question.



If you find any mistakes in the skill build info or recommended items please inform me.

[Mordiggian]

I love the mod as well, but would it be feasible to put the skill build on, say, the stats level up button? Or perhaps a movable frames-compatible icon (Just put it to the side of your screen, maybe even a hotkey to show/hide it.)

[BadAssKicker]

I spent some time looking for a way, but it seems that its not that easy. Editing the file with notepad was fine, but I don't have any modding skills. I'm sorry, the grey text under the skill descriptions seems to be the only way. Creating a extra frame would require a skilled modder. Until some modder has the time to do this, you have to live with this way.

[Mordiggian]

Haha, well, it doesn't bother me that much, 'twas just a thought.

[Cloud]

u are a genius sir!

[flibble]

Nice mod, gonna use this because I like to play different heroes and just use the same starting items most of the time. Nice idea :)

[ReloaD1010]

really a good job :D
will be better if you make it autoupdateable

[antaholics]

hmm for some reason a lot of my items are missing in the recommended list... any idea why?

for example, for puppet master I get this screen (see attached)

great mod! thanks

[BadAssKicker]

hmm for some reason a lot of my items are missing in the recommended list... any idea why?

for example, for puppet master I get this screen (see attached)

great mod! thanks
Hm that has to be a problem with the Custom Recommended mod, please contact Keshoon (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=202236) or post the question in his mod thread.

[SilkDegrees]

Thanks a lot, really does help :)

[Keshoon]

hmm for some reason a lot of my items are missing in the recommended list... any idea why?

for example, for puppet master I get this screen (see attached)

great mod! thanks

If you're using the Practice Mode Hero/Item Name Changer (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=35327), there's an incompatibility with that mod, as it changes the name of the item my mod searches for. I think I should be able to fix it using the new condition tag, but haven't gone around to do it.

[TruckFace]

If you're using the Practice Mode Hero/Item Name Changer (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=35327), there's an incompatibility with that mod, as it changes the name of the item my mod searches for. I think I should be able to fix it using the new condition tag, but haven't gone around to do it.

This helped me. Thanks a lot. Just played my first game using this mod as Soulstealer, a hero I don't play much... when my recommended items were post haste, duck boots and a bottle, I figured something had to be up. :D

Disabled item name changer, did a practice game with SS and it made much, much more sense.

[NuTzMe]

cute :D

[birdis0n]

gj nice mod

[Damonic]

Edit Again: I got everything working, great mod.

[ian_eo]

it would be great if you could enable/disable the mod during in game. tnx... by the way love the mod

[BadAssKicker]

Mod updated with Newti's changes.

[revan_xp]

Great mod. Can you make it auto updatable?
This is the only feature missing

[BadAssKicker]

Like I said I'm no modder, don't expect so much extra stuff. I agree it would be cool with auto-update and enable toggle, but don't have a clue how.

[revan_xp]

Like I said I'm no modder, don't expect so much extra stuff. I agree it would be cool with auto-update and enable toggle, but don't have a clue how.
Well, thanks for your work anyway. Very good stuff

Maybe this can help:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=72260

[BASH]

I just wanted to write a short guide for making this mod autoupdateable xD

[BadAssKicker]

Update! .honmod and .s2z file format :D

I'm not sure about auto-update though. It wont work with file hosters.

EDIT: Yet another big update! In v0.6 you can view the starting items by hovering over the ultimate skill. I thought it's useful and it also solves the ultimate skill info going over the screen.

[BASH]

Autoupdate will work with e.g. Dropbox. It's very easy and takes nearly no extra time.

If you want me to help you with this matter, just write me a PM.

[nelsen]

Update it for the new patch pls!!!

[Vegeto`]

update it for the new patch pls!!!

:(

[_RaZieL_]

Update it for the new patch pls!!!

i was amazed at how used to this layout i was, took me about 15 seconds to find my starting items, lol

[BadAssKicker]

Sorry for the wait, updated for the new patch now!

...so far only the skill build and starting items info work. Keshoon has to update his mod.

EDIT: nevermind, found a way to fix it. Updated the download links for 0.7. Please use that version of the recommended items mod.

[revan_xp]

ty for the update.
I can't remember if in the previous version this happened:
if you mouse-over the ultimate skill of any hero, the skill build doesn't appears

[BadAssKicker]

Ulti info is used for starting items since 0.6. You should read the thread first...

[revan_xp]

Ulti info is used for starting items since 0.6. You should read the thread first...
yeah sorry about that. Keep up the good work

[Nilsi123]

when i try to enable "big hero guide ingame mode" i get this: "this mod was written for hon mod manager v.1.3 or newer. you can obtain newest version by visiting the website.

then i clicked the website and got here. and that doesnt make sense, coz i used 0.7 to begin with...

[BASH]

Download the newest mod manager ffs.

[Nilsi123]

thanks :D

[IsolatedGame]

Portal key is missing from all shops cant even spawn it in practice .

Edit nvm not your mod must be my game.
Macs ftl...

[AndreSchou]

Guys, I only changed the application version of this mod.
Now its working perfectly. So guys if you want the working mod download it from here:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=93496

[Gheest]

For lazy persons :D
http://hotfile.com/dl/35103395/b3369...ed.honmod.html
http://www.mediafire.com/?5njywztjmij
But nice work andreschou

[BadAssKicker]

What the..?

The 0.7 links are working, why do you upload it again? 0.7 is updated for the new patch.

[AndreSchou]

Ups sorry badasskicker I didnt know

[rcng]

when I open ModMan, I can enable the Custom Rec Items mod just fine. but when I click enable for the Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod, ModMan crashes. I'm on a Mac. any ways around this?

[BadAssKicker]

Sorry man, don't have any knowledge about mac. But, if you have not already, download the newest Modmanager.

UPDATE:

Merged Keshoon's custom recommended mod with mine, which means there is only one .honmod you have to apply and also one .s2z. Also added auto-update for the honmod file.

I'm not sure how many people customize the recommended list, so I need some feedback, if I should upload the whole package everytime. If you don't customize the list you don't need the whole package and I don't need to upload it, which saves some work for me.

[TWWalker]

u said u merged but what do we suppose to enable
big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod
or customrecommended.honmod

i edit my custom item list
apply hero then save xml
then go back to honmanager , trying to enable customrecommended.honmod
then it failed
error saying its for v-0.2.*

its been like this from v0.7
i would like to customize my own items. please fix
thanks

i have absolutely no idea what big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod does

[Warskull]

On customizing items:
I did customize the item list, but only to add helm of the black legion to magebane. If that was added into his recommended I would have no need.

On variant of this mod:
There is another mod "Easy Hero ability descriptions (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=41481)" that seems to be defunct, but had a good idea. It didn't work with this mod. I initially was going to copy their text into this mod, but it could be improved upon. So I rewrote all the hero ability descriptions in a concise manner with tags to help clarify what they do in the fewest words possible.

I figure this should help newer players figure out what things do quicker and help players learn new heroes even faster. This is all done by editing the text of entities_en.str, everything other than the skill descriptions and mod name are the same.

Concise ability descriptions, now its own separate mod (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=97475)

Example:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6002/conciseexample.jpg

[BadAssKicker]

@Warskull
Pretty nice job man, I know it takes quite some time to do this. New players will appreciate it.

@TWWalker
Like mentioned only use ONE version now. You have to use both files, if you download the whole archieve. Basically all three download links do the same thing. But only the first one is auto-updatable. It already contains everything. The second one contains everything too, but no auto-update. The third one is a whole archieve with the custom mod files for self-editing. You need to have BOTH honmods with this version, but only the single one with the others.

DELETE YOUR OLD customrecommended.honmod, if you are going to use the first or second dowload link.

I hope this makes things clearer.

For the error message, please contact Keshoon. It creates a honmod for the old game version. You need to change the mod.xml of the created honmod with text editor. Change this line: appversion="-0.2.*" into appversion="*"

[revan_xp]

New version is great. Ty for autoupdate ability

[Unther]

Put big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod to ...\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\

There is no mod folder in my heroes of newerth file, should I just create one?

[Harmonium]

If you don't have a mod directory, you should probably head to the stickies and get a working install of the Hon Modification Manager up and running. After that you can make a mods folder and copy this into it as necessary.

[Warskull]

Put big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod to ...\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\

There is no mod folder in my heroes of newerth file, should I just create one?

Yes, just create a "mods" folder under games and stick the .honmod there. Then run honmodman.exe.

Check out this thread for info on Hon Mod manager (which you need to use this mod):
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=25883

[Kimball]

For some odd reason the mod Warskull posted effed up my game totally, couldnt see what hero I had to chose from in SD and couldnt pick anyone either. It also gave me unread bits-error when the game started :(
See screen:

http://pici.se/pictures/VtVDMCigc.jpg

However game worked fine as soon as I unapplied the mod again. No one else seen this?

[BadAssKicker]

That must be some outdated mods. Check for updates to your mods and modmanager.

If everything is updated, I would re-install and patch hon.

[Kimball]

That must be some outdated mods. Check for updates to your mods and modmanager.

If everything is updated, I would re-install and patch hon.

Doesnt seem like it, only happens using Warskulls "big_hero_guide_concise.honmod" applied instead of the old "big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod" one. So it has to do with the concise version. Sucks though, I like the idea and would love to use the easier skills descriptions :/

[BadAssKicker]

Mod updated with the agility guide updates.

Also decided to not upload whole archieve anymore. Pain in the ass to zip and upload everytime. Uploaded file necessery to customize instead. But beware that you can't use customrecommended.honmod and bigheroguide.honmod together. You have to replace the whole code (without the header) from the custom mod.xml with the bighero mod.xml.



Is auto-update working for everyone?

[Warskull]

Doesnt seem like it, only happens using Warskulls "big_hero_guide_concise.honmod" applied instead of the old "big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod" one. So it has to do with the concise version. Sucks though, I like the idea and would love to use the easier skills descriptions :/

It sounds like you don't have both of them on at the same time, as I could see that causing strange issues.

As Badasskicker mentioned, probably the easiest way and fastest way to get you fixed would be to uninstall and reinstall HoN. Back up your mods folder and your HoN mod manager. Reinstall, then try again. I've seen crazy things pop-up with other mods that are unexplainable and a reinstall fixed it. If it persists after the reinstall a list of mods you are using would probably help. In the meantime I have to windiff his new string file to update it. I'll keep an eye out for errant spaces/symbols that I could have accidentally slipped in.

My mod is literally the regular big hero guide with some altered strings, so I am guessing some strange mod conflict or file corruption has occurred.

[Littlescuba]

What program reads .honmod files i can't find one. Word pad doesn't doesn't seem to work.

Also the mod doesn't work for me any more for some reason. I tried just downloading the .honmod with auto update and just had that applied not the custom recommended since the new versions of this don't need it anymore. Still doesn't change the recommended items. I can't figure out what is causes it. I tried deleting both and applying the one. Just can't figure it would any ideas whats up?

Edit: Figured out the problem... Custom skins messed it up some how. Guess it's cause of the resource name being changed.

[Unther]

Yes, just create a "mods" folder under games and stick the .honmod there. Then run honmodman.exe.

Check out this thread for info on Hon Mod manager (which you need to use this mod):
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...ad.php?t=25883

Thanks Warskull, I installed the file in the link and it created a mod folder.

[Warskull]

Updated concise version to contain latest skill descriptions:
Concise ability descriptions, now its own separate mod (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=97475)

Also updated my original posting to include a link to this version.

Kimball, if you are still having trouble, try this version. It is literally the exact same as big hero guide with text changes only in the skill descriptions. There is no difference outside lines that dictate the skill descriptions.


What program reads .honmod files i can't find one. Word pad doesn't doesn't seem to work.

Also the mod doesn't work for me any more for some reason. I tried just downloading the .honmod with auto update and just had that applied not the custom recommended since the new versions of this don't need it anymore. Still doesn't change the recommended items. I can't figure out what is causes it. I tried deleting both and applying the one. Just can't figure it would any ideas whats up?

Edit: Figured out the problem... Custom skins messed it up some how. Guess it's cause of the resource name being changed.

If you want to look at what is inside them, use winrar. .honmod is just a renamed compression file. I forget if it is .rar or .zip. Use hon mod manager to apply them to your game.

[BadAssKicker]

Warskull, soon you wont have to update your stuff, as I am working on a way to edit the entities file without replacing the original one. So this mod can be used with any mod that edits the entities file. It will take a few days though, lots of work to be done there. Bear with me.

[Littlescuba]

If you want to look at what is inside them, use winrar. .honmod is just a renamed compression file. I forget if it is .rar or .zip. Use hon mod manager to apply them to your game.

I use winrar.. I think i figured it out still having the problem with the custom skins though not showing the changes in recommended can't figure out a fix other then not using the skins : /...

[BadAssKicker]

I use winrar.. I think i figured it out still having the problem with the custom skins though not showing the changes in recommended can't figure out a fix other then not using the skins : /...
Which skin mod exactly?

[chibi22]

@badasskickker at ur update does it still have the conscience skill description

[BadAssKicker]

@badasskickker at ur update does it still have the conscience skill description
Warskull made one for the updated version.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=1313573&postcount=77

[Warskull]

Warskull, soon you wont have to update your stuff, as I am working on a way to edit the entities file without replacing the original one. So this mod can be used with any mod that edits the entities file. It will take a few days though, lots of work to be done there. Bear with me.

Its actually very little effort on my part. I just load your string file and my string file in windiff, have it only display lines that are different, then do a find for "flavor." Took me about 10 minutes to update it.

Once you release that, I'll have to figure out how it works and utilize it though. I know the original easy hero ability descriptions used a find/replace. However, that was rather sensitive and tiny changes outdated it.

[Littlescuba]

Which skin mod exactly?

dark swiftblade
juggernaut soulstealer
nomad sand wraith
captain america jera
darth mage bane
bloody valk
blanka madman

think there is two more...

the thing is the mod works if u leave the resource file alone but if you change the file name it doesnt... but you have to change it if you want to see the edited hero icon in the hero select screen. Still trying to figure out a work around

[Tihiiss]

For some odd reason the mod Warskull posted effed up my game totally, couldnt see what hero I had to chose from in SD and couldnt pick anyone either. It also gave me unread bits-error when the game started :(
See screen:

http://pici.se/pictures/VtVDMCigc.jpg

However game worked fine as soon as I unapplied the mod again. No one else seen this?



i got this when i use updated version

[koewi]

You have to replace the whole code (without the header) in the mod.xml from the customrecommended.honmod with the one in bigheroguide.honmod.hey guys i have a problem ... did i understand it right, that i have to replace the mod.xml code with the code of bigheroguide.honmod ... if yes, how can i do it ... .honmod and .xml are 2 different formats ...
and if i did everything right in the end, which .honmod i have to apply?

i hope you can help me :)

*edit*


You have to replace the whole code (without the header) from the custom mod.xml with the bighero mod.xml.Found this in a later post and it makes everything a bit clearer, just 1 thing is missing, where do i find the bighero mod.xml???
Am i blind?

[BadAssKicker]

@keowi: You don't have to replace any code, if you didn't do any custom edits to the recommended list. Just put the honmod or s2z from the first two download links in your hon folder and delete your old customrecommended.honmod.

@wooyadeen: are you using honmod or s2z?



Update! Optimized code. Now the mod doesn't replace the entities file, it edits it, so the mod can work with more other mods editing the same file together. It's also a lot smaller.

[NightMare`_]

if i download it now will it work?

[BadAssKicker]

Well of course, why not :p

[Tihiiss]

@wooyadeen: are you using honmod or s2z?


honmod, i got problem with updated version, everything is fine with old one.

btw, is there any updated custom recommended items mod?

[BadAssKicker]

honmod, i got problem with updated version, everything is fine with old one.

btw, is there any updated custom recommended items mod?
I really don't see the problem. It should work fine. Did you try the new version? v0.11?

The code of the custom recommended mod is in my mod.

[Tihiiss]

I really don't see the problem. It should work fine. Did you try the new version? v0.11?

The code of the custom recommended mod is in my mod.

Same problem with 0.11, 0.7 work fine for me.

[BadAssKicker]

Same problem with 0.11, 0.7 work fine for me.
Major thing I changed from 0.7 to the newer ones is that I pasted the code of the recommended mod into my mod. The recommended mod modifies hero.entity and the skin mods too. There must be some complications with that. My mod edits another file, which has nothing to do with textures.

[Tihiiss]

Major thing I changed from 0.7 to the newer ones is that I pasted the code of the recommended mod into my mod. The recommended mod modifies hero.entity and the skin mods too. There must be some complications with that. My mod edits another file, which has nothing to do with textures.

Yea i forgot to delete custom recommended item mod, its ok now.

[BadAssKicker]

Yea i forgot to delete custom recommended item mod, its ok now.
I see. Then I will add an incompatibility code with the next update.

[Warskull]

Finished retooling the concise mod, its now its own separate mod fully compatible with big hero guide. Does the same thing as the previous versions, but a smaller, better mod.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=97475

[Sooner]

I just downloaded the.honmod file and when i download it doesnt show up.. so i redownloaded it and now it has a Lock picture on it so i replace and redownload it but still dosnt show up. im runnin windows 7 anyone know a quick fix ?

[revan_xp]

I just downloaded the.honmod file and when i download it doesnt show up.. so i redownloaded it and now it has a Lock picture on it so i replace and redownload it but still dosnt show up. im runnin windows 7 anyone know a quick fix ?
What? Download. Open it using honmod. Profit

[Sooner]

What? Download. Open it using honmod. Profit

nevermind used firefox and it worked now IE is so trash

[koewi]

@koewi: You don't have to replace any code, if you didn't do any custom edits to the recommended list. Just put the honmod or s2z from the first two download links in your hon folder and delete your old customrecommended.honmod.KK sry Badass, thought it was clear, that i WANT to do custom changes in the Recommended Items :) (else i woulndn't ask those questions ;) ). Where can i find the mod.xml of the Bigheroguide now, to use the code of the Custom Recommended mod.xml for replacing ...

*edit*


You have to replace the whole code (without the header) in the mod.xml from the customrecommended.honmod with the one in bigheroguide.honmod, where the custom mod code starts.I saw, that u added the last part of the sentence recently, but it still doesnt help me :) can u explain what to do for dumbasses like me :) ... i mean, how can i open the bigheroguide.honmod, to replace the "custom mod code"?

*edit2*

Found a way to convert .honmod to .s2z (with Modman) and opened it with winrar ... found "custom mod codes" in every hero.entity ... pls tell me, that i dont have to edit every entity in particular ...

*edit3*

Opended .honmod with Winrar ... found the mod.xml now ... hope everything will work out now ...

*edit4*

ok i replaced the codes and i think everything is working now :) maybe you (badass) can write that u have to use winrar, to get to the mod.xml, how should we now it :)

[BadAssKicker]

koewi, man I'm glad you managed to do it. But I thought it would be clear by now, that you can open honmod files with winrar and edit mod.xml with texteditor. But ok, will add that part to the main post.

[SilkDegrees]

Thanks a lot for the updates BAK, will be getting shortly!

[BadAssKicker]

Mod updated with the intelligence hero updates of the big hero guide.

[peterparca]

Thanks for that fine mod, as a player with few experience this mod actually gives a huge help to get knowledge about skill + itembuilds ingame !! simply great !

[fury`]

Am i the only one who cant see the skill descriptions of the new hero, The Chipper? I think its because of this n game mod. I hope it will be updated soon. =)

[Matro]

Am i the only one who cant see the skill descriptions of the new hero, The Chipper? I think its because of this n game mod. I hope it will be updated soon. =)
yeah i cant see them either, kindof annoying

[Warskull]

Am i the only one who cant see the skill descriptions of the new hero, The Chipper? I think its because of this n game mod. I hope it will be updated soon. =)

Close HoN and reapply your mods.

[BadAssKicker]

Am i the only one who cant see the skill descriptions of the new hero, The Chipper? I think its because of this n game mod. I hope it will be updated soon. =)
It's working fine for me. Must be some other mods.


Updated mod with Chipper info.

[koewi]

ok if u just update everything, it may work fine, but if u want to customize something in the recommended items, you have to replace codes ... if u replace codes, you delete maybe the new chipper code, cause it didnt exist in the older mod.xml's ...
so the first thing is to care that you dont delete the chipper code ...
maybe u can mention this in your first post ...

and now i keep trying to edit recommended items of chipper ... its kinda hard for me now, cause chipper isnt in the programm keshoon has created and he wont update his mod anymore :/

does anywhere exist a list, that contains the items and the names, they have in the .xml files
You know ... for example Wards of Sight aren't Item_Wardsofsight, they are called Item_Flamingeye ...

[BadAssKicker]

ok if u just update everything, it may work fine, but if u want to customize something in the recommended items, you have to replace codes ... if u replace codes, you delete maybe the new chipper code, cause it didnt exist in the older mod.xml's ...
so the first thing is to care that you dont delete the chipper code ...
maybe u can mention this in your first post ...

and now i keep trying to edit recommended items of chipper ... its kinda hard for me now, cause chipper isnt in the programm keshoon has created and he wont update his mod anymore :/

does anywhere exist a list, that contains the items and the names, they have in the .xml files
You know ... for example Wards of Sight aren't Item_Wardsofsight, they are called Item_Flamingeye ...
Yea man, wanted to mention that, was a bit lazy though.

In the resources0.s2z there is a item list in items\basic. You could use those names. I hope somebody updates Keshoon's mod.

[softar]

BadAssKicker what UI do you use it looks so damn clean

[BadAssKicker]

The one in the screenshot is Bard's UI obviously :p

[noVa`]

I never heard about that mod but I love it! I was waiting for something like this.
But I can't open something (the "Hero Guide"?) with crtl+F like guys here were talking about.

I just dl'ed the .honmod and applied it in the mod manager. Is there anything more I have to do?

Thx in advance.

[Warskull]

I never heard about that mod but I love it! I was waiting for something like this.
But I can't open something (the "Hero Guide"?) with crtl+F like guys here were talking about.

I just dl'ed the .honmod and applied it in the mod manager. Is there anything more I have to do?

Thx in advance.

No, once applied via the mod manager you are done. Launch a practice game and look at recommended items, they should have a different layout. Additionally, the skill descriptions should include a list giving you the order to take your skills. This is at the bottom of the skill description.

You only have to worry about opening the .honmod if you want to edit it and have your own custom items.

[MrMult]

Chiprel info contains an error. The mod won't apply in modmanager "/

[nota]

Chiprel info contains an error. The mod won't apply in modmanager "/


I had the same error until I updated the game then reapplied. For anyone reading that has errors updating (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=101147).

[Reminator]

can u add some numbers to items because i have no idea what to buy as first items, also I liked previous verion more with hero page and possibility to see it more clearly.

And can you not rely on mini guide because items there on certain heroes are simply bad choice or lack of some.

[mechanized]

does it work with linux?

[BadAssKicker]

can u add some numbers to items because i have no idea what to buy as first items, also I liked previous verion more with hero page and possibility to see it more clearly.

And can you not rely on mini guide because items there on certain heroes are simply bad choice or lack of some.
You can find info what to buy first, if you hover over the ultimate skill. The recommended items are sorted in the buying order. Just read the whole text in my first post, it explains everything.

I don't know what you mean by hero page and possibility, please explain.

Also I don't agree with not relying on the mini guide. My skills drastically improved with this.

[Warskull]

can u add some numbers to items because i have no idea what to buy as first items, also I liked previous verion more with hero page and possibility to see it more clearly.

And can you not rely on mini guide because items there on certain heroes are simply bad choice or lack of some.

If you think there are problems with the mini-guide, take it up with the mini-guides. For the most part they are solid, community approved builds. They listen to good feedback.

[Reminator]

Okay they changed what I wanted now gotta wait for update here.
Previous old version was that all heroes icons were in frame and u just pressed what u had and it shown you build and items with numbers.

[TehAznKid]

I downloaded the honmod files and applied them everything seems to be up to date, but when i'm in game my recommended items are all messed up. For example it showed the boots 3 different times under the recommended items. I was wondering if anyone else has gotten this before and if they know how to fix it.
thanks.

[BadAssKicker]

Updated mod with the strength updates. Now it is fully up-to-date with the current patch.

@TehAznKid: Do you mean the exact same boots show up multiple times or different boots? If it's different boots, then the last row are alternative items, if its only marchers and something else between it, then that's the order to buy it. Which hero?

@reminator: You must be talking about another mod.

[autobahn1211]

Don't if this was updated for the str update but the main Devourer guide shows hook 1st then decay and it also shows a alt build with hotbl that is suppose to be better then shaman headress.

premium Devourer guide
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=70755

Hotbl vs shaman headress
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=1025228&postcount=38

[TehAznKid]

i was talking about the same item being posted multiple times, i can't recall the hero, i wanna say torturer. Next time i see it i'll take a pic and post it

[BadAssKicker]

This has nothing to do with other premium guides. It's only about the Big Hero Guide. For feedback like that, use the guide thread.

[IASGATG]

Am I being special or something?

I have the mod installed and working, for the most part. When I pick a hero ingame and start playing, the UI has changed to give the recommended items and skills, etc.

However, I cannot get the Ctrl+F function to work. Do I need to install something separately in order to achieve this functionality or am I just being dim?

I have attempted to do it both in the lobby screen, hero select, and ingame. Nothing appears to make the window pop-up.

IASGATG

[BadAssKicker]

Am I being special or something?

I have the mod installed and working, for the most part. When I pick a hero ingame and start playing, the UI has changed to give the recommended items and skills, etc.

However, I cannot get the Ctrl+F function to work. Do I need to install something separately in order to achieve this functionality or am I just being dim?

I have attempted to do it both in the lobby screen, hero select, and ingame. Nothing appears to make the window pop-up.

IASGATG
What the fack?

There is no extra window popping up dude. You're good to go :o

[Reminator]

He was talking about other mod which had pop up window but i think it merged with yours or they stopped developing.
By the way can you add recent changes (some heroes ) from miniguide ?

[HeavySoul]

Not sure if this has already been suggested, sorry if so.

It would be really slick if this would auto-update to the info in Newti's thread. Maybe you and he could work out a secure database where each hero's guide is stored?

[BadAssKicker]

@reminator: I think I know which mod you are talking about, but no, nothin has been merged and I didn't take that over. All updates of the guide are already in the mod.

@soul: So far I am updating my mod, when he updates his guide, sometimes after a few days. Until now it worked out good. But I'll keep that in mind.

[Nilsi123]

can i somehow have the skill build and also be able to change items on recommanded?

[BadAssKicker]

can i somehow have the skill build and also be able to change items on recommanded?
Yes, please read the blue text in the first post.

[Rothira]

I guess i managed to **** the update of this mod and the custom recommended items mod. Result is that i have custom recommended items for chipper but no skill order.

Any way to revert or change this? :(

[BadAssKicker]

I guess i managed to **** the update of this mod and the custom recommended items mod. Result is that i have custom recommended items for chipper but no skill order.

Any way to revert or change this? :(
I don't know what you did. But delete both mods, download the 0.14 again and enable ONLY this mod without custom recommended mod.

[Rothira]

Tried that but it seems like I somehow messed up the data for chipper. There are no neither skillnames nor any descriptions of the skills. Logically no skill order too.

[Razan]

Tried that but it seems like I somehow messed up the data for chipper. There are no neither skillnames nor any descriptions of the skills. Logically no skill order too.

I have this problem too. Chipper's skills are completely nonexistent for me. In the lobby where you're picking characters if I mouse-over him everything's blank (except for the icons). In game, there is no skill build shown and the skills are also blank.

I'm sure I've somehow ****ed it up, but can't figure it out.

[BadAssKicker]

Some other people had the same issue. You should delete HoN completeley and make a fresh install + update. Should fix it.

[Ragnarokkk]

I have this problem too. Chipper's skills are completely nonexistent for me. In the lobby where you're picking characters if I mouse-over him everything's blank (except for the icons). In game, there is no skill build shown and the skills are also blank.

I'm sure I've somehow ****ed it up, but can't figure it out.
this is happening to me for fayde.

[I_HateJuice]

this is happening to me for fayde.


same here

[BadAssKicker]

This can't be caused by my mod. Read 2 posts above. Re-Install hon. Your update must be messed up.

[Saeru]

Simply load a practice game and play as Chipper/Fayde. It was blank for me until i did so, after I left the game the compendium and selection menu updated.

[homer85]

nvm, works fine now...
keep the good work up, i really like this mod.

[ScoutkniveZ]

Is this mod updated for the new patch & change with attack modifiers? And also: why is the Zephyr build from this mod not like the one at all in the guide that you are referring to?
Thanks for a great mod!

[nelsen]

is possible to have a version withouth the raccomended items? (only with the skill tree)

[BadAssKicker]

Mod updated with Fayde!


@ScoutkniveZ: Will be updated, if the guide author updates it. Zephyr fixed. It was only one item, not everything...

@nelsen: Look at the code in the mod.xml and delete the part with the custom items.

[evilkarma]

Nvm, error was because my game was not updated. Thanks for the quick guide update!

[nelsen]

Mod updated with Fayde!


@ScoutkniveZ: Will be updated, if the guide author updates it. Zephyr fixed. It was only one item, not everything...

@nelsen: Look at the code in the mod.xml and delete the part with the custom items.

ok tnx ;)

[ridle]

People, I think i found the common problem with fayde/chiprel))
Basically for those who used this mod before, you have to delete the old file from
...\Heroes of Newerth\game\stringtables
(i think it was entities_en.str , not sure thought)
after that you should see all the abilities and stats))no need to reinstall the whole game)))

[BadAssKicker]

People, I think i found the common problem with fayde/chiprel))
Basically for those who used this mod before, you have to delete the old file from
...\Heroes of Newerth\game\stringtables
(i think it was entities_en.str , not sure thought)
after that you should see all the abilities and stats))no need to reinstall the whole game)))
Thanks for noticing. Will add that to the mainpost.

[AoOs]

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4905/capturefwn.png (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/capturefwn.png/)

What the deuce ?

[Duomaxwe]

People, I think i found the common problem with fayde/chiprel))
Basically for those who used this mod before, you have to delete the old file from
...\Heroes of Newerth\game\stringtables
(i think it was entities_en.str , not sure thought)
after that you should see all the abilities and stats))no need to reinstall the whole game)))

I do not see a file called stringtables.

[Awan`Afuqya]

Just keep Concise Ability Descriptions (1.04) and Big Hero Guide Ingame (0.15) up to date and you won't get these strange error messages. You just have to get em both.

And btw. you dont have to delete strings or anything else just delete them out of the modman and get the new one (DL) in. Works for me -> never had an error (except when Big Hero was outdated).

[Duomaxwe]

I downloaded this mod in addition to Concise Ability which I already had and I still can't see new heroes descriptions, as in they're blank.

And the other heroes texts have never changed.

[Awan`Afuqya]

Again, delete both in ModMan, download the lastest version and get em back into ModMan. Version 1.04 and 0.15. If it still doesn't work reinstall and delete your saved files (the 2nd x in the deinstall setup)

[AoOs]

Again, delete both in ModMan, download the lastest version and get em back into ModMan. Version 1.04 and 0.15. If it still doesn't work reinstall and delete your saved files (the 2nd x in the deinstall setup)


They are both up-to-date.

Really annoying error..

[AoOs]

Again, delete both in ModMan, download the lastest version and get em back into ModMan. Version 1.04 and 0.15. If it still doesn't work reinstall and delete your saved files (the 2nd x in the deinstall setup)

Just reinstalled everything, twice.

Still won't apply the mod.

What else can I do ?

[ridle]

I do not see a file called stringtables.

it's not a file, its a folder and it will only be there if you put it there during the old version of this mod. also try deleting this mod and lunching the game without it. if you still don't see descriptions problem might be in some other mod)

[ridle]

Just reinstalled everything, twice.

Still won't apply the mod.

What else can I do ?

Can you show your list of mods? But before try disabling all mods except for big hero guide and see if it works.

[AoOs]

It won't even apply alone.

Any other suggestions ?

[Awan`Afuqya]

Just reinstalled everything, twice.

Still won't apply the mod.

What else can I do ?

I have no idea ;). These are the only mods afaik which change something in the tooltips. Maybe you should post a list of your mods.

If you deinstall completely there should not be a folder at (on win 7):
libraries/documents/heroes of newerth. If there is one, delete it before you reinstall.

[Duomaxwe]

Do textures that change names cause problems?

[ridle]

It won't even apply alone.

Any other suggestions ?

Then i don't know, only maybe reinstall game)))

[ridle]

Do textures that change names cause problems?

i think they might, but not sure.try it without them and see if it works))that's usually the best way to find the problem))0well thats what i did)))

[Mastamindz]

So, is it suppose to show what skills your suppose to get first and whatnot?

[Awan`Afuqya]

So, is it suppose to show what skills your suppose to get first and whatnot?

Yes, if you hover over the first 3 skills you'll get an awesome skillinfo. The 4th skill shows you which items to get at start. Great mod, helped me a lot.

[`shoe]

mod doesn't work with v3.5 hon

edit: because fayde's skill #3 has been replaced with a new skill which rendered your mod unable to function.

[discodude]

mod doesn't work with v3.5 hon

edit: because fayde's skill #3 has been replaced with a new skill which rendered your mod unable to function.

well, you can just open the .honmod file with winrar, open the file inside with notepad++ and take out the lines that do not work for fayde...

just did it 10 secs ago and work like a charm

anyways, she has been completly reworked so...

edit: OR, you can just download the mod from the link on the post bellow, if you dont feel like going through the trouble of opening the mod:D

Oh, btw, i will take these lines to praise the badass for this mod, as i totally love the way you change the recommended items section (actually, im using this mod just for that) and make it cleaner and more usefull. keep it up man!!!!!

[n3k]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nkdwikelori/big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod

there you go, for the lazy people :)

[AndreSchou]

doesn't work right now, when is update coming? I think its because of fayde's new ability:(

[Rynji]

look one post above you

[Ayra]

been loving the mod so far, tough right now after the latest patch i get this error message when trying to apply the mod:

Could not find string starting with "Ability_Fade3_tooltip_Flavor .....
i gues this is becouse they removed fayde's third abilety and will now link to incorect names /strings

edit: im an itiot i din't read the 4 posts abouve me ;3
thanks works again now even tough the mod should be updated soon ;)

[Lord_Horace]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nkdwikelori/big_hero_guide_ingame.honmod

there you go, for the lazy people :)

<3. Confirming that the hotfix works fine (Win7 x64).

[BadAssKicker]

Fixed the Fayde error.

I know that the skill build info doesnt match the new skill names of Fayde. I will update these, when the guide author Newti updates his guide. It will probably be a huge update, because of the change of attack modifiers with lifeleech.

[discodude]

<3. Confirming that the hotfix works fine (Win7 x64).

because the version of your OS has something to do with it...

[IsolatedGame]

the skills dont appear for me like. What i mean is when you hover over them what you should get for your spells is not there but the items are fine in the shop. Any help>?

[Lord_Horace]

because the version of your OS has something to do with it...

I know it doesn't, I'm just throwing it in there anyways.

[discodude]

I know it doesn't, I'm just throwing it in there anyways.

the door was too wide opened for me not to step in :D

[Lord_Horace]

the door was too wide opened for me not to step in :D

Funny enough, I actually expected someone to say it when I hit the Submit button. Regardless, props for speedy new version. Just updated it and it works great. A++ would buy again :P.

[ridle]

"Big Hero Guide Ingame Mod" caused a problem:

Could not find string starting with "Ability_Fade1_tooltip_flavor I need my personal space." as sought by line 179 of /home/agi/.Heroes of Newerth/game/mods/big_hero_guide_ingame (1).honmod/mod.xml

This may be caused by the mod being outdated or by an incompatibility with another enabled mod.

get this on linux(((tried to edit xml file, still no use((any ideas?

[Awan`Afuqya]

Update Concise_Ability_Descriptions

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=97475

Edit: Forgot something. Update your game first... Lazy Buddy did the same as he tried to apply before updating

[Almittamon]

when playing wildsoul, what side of recommended is for the bear?

[Unreal]

if i use this mod, the icon of engineer is not visible, nor are his skill descriptions. when the game starts and it has an engi in it, the game breaks up with an "unread bits error". Reconnecting fixes it though, still very very annoying, would be glad if you could fix that.

[BadAssKicker]

@TehPhantom: Definitely not caused by my mod. Check your other mods and eventually texture mods.

@Almittamon: Starting items: left side is Wildsoul, right side bear. Core: left side bear, right side wildsoul. The rest is all for Wildsoul. That means you just buy Iron Buckler, Loggers Hatchet and Marchers for Bear. But since Frostburn got nerfed hardcore, this build is not that good anymore. Newti recommends going for Mock on Bear. Your choice.

[Unreal]

i can now confirm that it's your mod; if i enable it, engineer is not there (teapot in practice mode), if i disable the mod everything works. strange. maybe a combination of your mod and one of my others?

[BadAssKicker]

Well then tell us what other mods you have..

[Almittamon]

if you are thinking about doing any changes, i'm just gonna say that having the hatchet on wildsoul himself is more efficient, as he has more dmg.

[BadAssKicker]

I wont change the guide. It's all the work of Newti, please contact him or make a post in the guide thread about stuff like that.

[MrMult]

How do I do if I just want the recommended items from this guide? (not how to levelup the heroes)

[BlayZin]

I always played with the tips in the tooltip of the spells, but today its gone (?).
I tried to reinstall all Mods and deactivate all excepting this Mod, But it still don't work for me.
Whats that?

Edit: I got it. I reinstalled the game.

[BadAssKicker]

Mod updated with latest guide updates for 0.3.5.

[Taggsvamp]

Mod updated with latest guide updates for 0.3.5.

Nice :D

[CptJesus]

And unfortunately broken with 0.3.6 =)

[PixelCombat]

Not really broken.
Just comment out line 246 and 247 in mod.xml and wait for a update. (extract the honmodfile)

[BadAssKicker]

Mod updated already, relax! :rolleyes:

[Furiosu]

Extracting and editing out was one thing, how do you remake the archive, what kind should it be, or what program should there be used to do it?

EDIT: NVM

[Shiroo]

still not working, update pls

[Taggsvamp]

still not working, update pls

Works fine for me

[I_HateJuice]

omg please fix asap.. it doesnt work! PLEASE help

http://www.abload.de/img/bugwe5brs.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bugwe5brs.jpg)

[Awan`Afuqya]

Would be great if you use dropbox or something similar :)

[revan_xp]

@f0s This has been already fixed. Update

[Nature1]

omg please fix asap.. it doesnt work! PLEASE help

http://www.abload.de/img/bugwe5brs.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bugwe5brs.jpg)

Same error as you as well...

[BadAssKicker]

I already fixed the damn error. Download it from the main post or use autoupdate...

[ridle]

dude it doesn't work)))I mean last update gives this error)))

[BadAssKicker]

I just tested all the files I uploaded and it still works for me. I honestly don't see what's wrong. Maybe the update got screwed up for some of you. Only thing I can suggest is do a clean re-install of HoN...

[Shiroo]

fine working now for me

[deiga]

Edit: My troubles got fixed by a hon reinstall.

[BadAssKicker]

Why and where did you remove stringtables?

It seems that you removed the stringtables from the resources0.s2z??? This mod and the game wont work without it.

[deiga]

Why and where did you remove stringtables?

It seems that you removed the stringtables from the resources0.s2z??? This mod and the game wont work without it.
I removed them, cause the first post said to remove them. Very misleading that one. I had no Idea, that I removed the wrong ones, 'cause the description wasn't detailed enough.

[Warskull]

I removed them, cause the first post said to remove them. Very misleading that one. I had no Idea, that I removed the wrong ones, 'cause the description wasn't detailed enough.

Maybe you should remove that reference to deleting stuff from the older versions of your mod in the OP. I doubt anyone has a version that old anymore.

[Sysyphus3021]

omg please fix asap.. it doesnt work! PLEASE help

http://www.abload.de/img/bugwe5brs.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bugwe5brs.jpg)

Still getting this too. I have downloaded the update many times.


Just did a full reinstall of the game. Did not fix the problem. I can not do anything with my mods. This mod is locking up HoN Mod Manager. Booo

[Awan`Afuqya]

Worked on my pc yesterday! Did you update Concise Ability Descriptions?

Go to Heroes of Newerth/game/mods and delete it manually.

[BadAssKicker]

Updated mod for new game version and with new Big Hero Guide updates!

Hopefully it will work now for everybody.

[deiga]

I get this error now..Is it me, or the mod? Tried reinstalling the mod.

[SHJordan]

http://imgur.com/4BiPw.png

Don't know why... =\

[BadAssKicker]

Very strange, that shouldn't occur. I got that error too but already fixed it with 1.0. It seems that there is something wrong with your stringtables\entities_en.str file in resources0.s2z.

Someone with the same error, please check if the line between the "" in the error message in entities_en.str exists. You open s2z files with WinRAR or something similiar and the str file with editor. If that line doesn't exist, I recommend re-installing.

[SHJordan]

Just realized that hon got updated... after updated, it worked as well.

[D3athrow]

with your guide active i can't see any text or name with the new heroes recently added - chipper, fayde, balphagore, glatius or w/e. it's been this way for a while and no update fixes it.

addendum: even with your guide disabled, deleted and whatnot i still see the hero skillset and cannot see the new heroes things.

[Tacgnol]

with your guide active i can't see any text or name with the new heroes recently added - chipper, fayde, balphagore, glatius or w/e. it's been this way for a while and no update fixes it.


I've had this problem and you should just do a clear install and it will work as intended again.

[PermaNoob]

The recommended items doesn't change for me!

EDIT: It was only on Zephyr, and was due to the fact that I had the party-time mod for him installed. Guess I'll have to remove that now :-(

[Davehz]

I've had this problem and you should just do a clear install and it will work as intended again.
I have this too, but to fix it, you have to reinstall HoN?

[revan_xp]

I had this issue some patches ago. I just disabled all the mods via modmanager and re-enabled them

[Zesbeer]

so a idea i had for this is to make it so once you get one lvl of your ulit the items switch to your core items

if that is impossible to do then make it so stats say what core items you should get first.

[QuintonGavin]

Can somebody please create a mod similar to this, but gives you an updated recommended shop menu?

[BadAssKicker]

@Zesbeer
It could be possible, but I don't know how to code.

@Milly
I don't know what you are talking about. The recommended list is up-to-date.

[TheGopher]

http://imgur.com/4BiPw.png

Don't know why... =\

I just had this error message. I checked the path of the mod directory that Hon_Mod_Manager was pointing to and it was wrong. Make sure you check that as well as other settings in the mod manager.

[Dyscal]

Is there a version working with retail for this or another mod with similar concept?

[Awan`Afuqya]

It works, please download the latest version.

[nabwhoo]

Can't seem to get this working in-game since retail.

[Zesbeer]

Can't seem to get this working in-game since retail.
what version do you have and have you updated your mod man?

[exto]

with your guide active i can't see any text or name with the new heroes recently added - chipper, fayde, balphagore, glatius or w/e. it's been this way for a while and no update fixes it.

addendum: even with your guide disabled, deleted and whatnot i still see the hero skillset and cannot see the new heroes things.


I have this exact problem... did a fresh install and it still wasnt working?

Anyone got any ideas? is there something that this mod changes that im not deleting or would affect my new install?

[RaiN`]

I really like this mod but there is one thing i find really really disturbing.

Everytime there is a new patch with a new hero and this mod isnt updated yet, i am not able to see the skill descriptions from this hero ( was the same with balphagore, fayde and gauntlet). It seems impossible to un-apply the mod from the game, even when i unapply them with my modmanager, delete the mod manager and the honmod file, i still have those written hints in the skill description of every hero.

Would it be possible to just release a seperate honmod which displays only the recommendet items and not the manipulated skill descriptions?

[WizardKelly]

Okay, I honestly can't figure out how to make this mod work. I downloaded the .honmod file, dragged it into my mod folder, enabled it, and applied it. But when I make a practice game, I don't get any of the effects of the mod. Nothing's wrong with my game, but I don't get the skill build when I hover and I don't get the custom recommended items. It just gives me the stock recommended. Is there something I'm missing?

[dmae]

I have this exact problem... did a fresh install and it still wasnt working?

Anyone got any ideas? is there something that this mod changes that im not deleting or would affect my new install?

Delete the file from the mods folder and install the mod again - it helped in my case.

[Emti]

To fix the error where you can't see all of the text I just delete these folders from My Documents.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2qtl82r.png

[Xangoth]

Okay, I honestly can't figure out how to make this mod work. I downloaded the .honmod file, dragged it into my mod folder, enabled it, and applied it. But when I make a practice game, I don't get any of the effects of the mod. Nothing's wrong with my game, but I don't get the skill build when I hover and I don't get the custom recommended items. It just gives me the stock recommended. Is there something I'm missing?

There was recently an update and so they need to update this file too, that's probably why it doesn't work for you atm

[BadAssKicker]

No update needed for the new HoN patch, still working fine.

[revan_xp]

To fix the error where you can't see all of the text I just delete these folders from My Documents.

deleting startup.cfg delete all your mods custom settings

[WizardKelly]

I re-downloaded and reinstalled after the update but still no go. Do I still need to do something to HoN to get this to work?

[exto]

I really like this mod but there is one thing i find really really disturbing.

Everytime there is a new patch with a new hero and this mod isnt updated yet, i am not able to see the skill descriptions from this hero ( was the same with balphagore, fayde and gauntlet). It seems impossible to un-apply the mod from the game, even when i unapply them with my modmanager, delete the mod manager and the honmod file, i still have those written hints in the skill description of every hero.

Would it be possible to just release a seperate honmod which displays only the recommendet items and not the manipulated skill descriptions?

Bump for answers to this

[exto]

To fix the error where you can't see all of the text I just delete these folders from My Documents.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2qtl82r.png


This fixed it

Thanks heaps man

[BadAssKicker]

I really like this mod but there is one thing i find really really disturbing.

Everytime there is a new patch with a new hero and this mod isnt updated yet, i am not able to see the skill descriptions from this hero ( was the same with balphagore, fayde and gauntlet). It seems impossible to un-apply the mod from the game, even when i unapply them with my modmanager, delete the mod manager and the honmod file, i still have those written hints in the skill description of every hero.

Would it be possible to just release a seperate honmod which displays only the recommendet items and not the manipulated skill descriptions?
I am working on another solution. I will use The Minor Totem Mod (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=112909) (with the permission of the author) and put the skill description like shown in the pics there. Recommended items will still be in the recommended list ingame. The right side of the minor totem mod will be used for the 30-sec guides and stuff like that for each hero. Just be patient, it's a lot of coding...

[BadAssKicker]

This is the progress so far and I need help already. I took screenshots of Newti's guide, cut out the important information and put it in the mod, but why are the pictures so damn pixelated? You can't read it ingame. I tried .png, .tga, .jpg, always the same.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/th_screen-1.jpg (http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/screen-1.jpg)
(click on pic to enlarge)

Here is the code of the right side:


<panel width="500" height="450" x="520" y="110" color="black" noclick="true" >

<image x="0" y="0" width="498" height="396" noclick="true" nocompress="true" watch="TMTUpdate" ontrigger="if(StringEquals(*('tmt_' # tmt_source_name # '_notes'), 'Accursed'), SetTexture('/ui/images/tmt_accursed_notes.png'));" />

</panel>

[Taggsvamp]

Seems really nice :D

[CptJesus]

This is the progress so far and I need help already. I took screenshots of Newti's guide, cut out the important information and put it in the mod, but why are the pictures so damn pixelated? You can't read it ingame. I tried .png, .tga, .jpg, always the same.


Its probably trying to upscale the images. Are you keeping the resolution the same?

[BadAssKicker]

Its probably trying to upscale the images. Are you keeping the resolution the same?
Yea the image resolution in the code is the same as for the picture. I don't know why it would upscale..

EDIT: You have to use images 500+ % bigger than the original one. That way it looks good ingame.

[BadAssKicker]

I have almost finished everything. But need some feedback on the layout. I can provide two. One of it has only starting item info and is smaller, the other one is much bigger but with full item info, though only for widescreen users. Which one would you prefer? Maybe even two versions of the mod? One for widescreen, other for 4:3? Please give me feedback.

layout 1:
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/th_layout01.jpg (http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/layout01.jpg)

layout 2:
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/th_layout02.jpg (http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/Nabahr/layout02.jpg)

[Spec]

looks nice, but opaque black background doesnt look very nice :p try it with a little bit of transparency! other than that, looks awesome!

Also, 1 perfect thing would be to have the item list in the mod clickable (it would open the shop on the corresponding recipe etc?)
and another one would be the same for skills or make it compatible with miniui autolearning stuff or the other mod that does the same...

<3

[Spec]

1 more thing, i think you dont need a collumn dedicated for skills, you could use the top row for that!

OFC, that if you plan on having multiple builds... its a whole different subject...

[BadAssKicker]

Cant make it transparent, that would be so much work. The pictures have a black background already that's why everything is black.

Recommended items are already modified in the shop in the correct order. Clickable skills ... don't know how to do that.

I'll look into putting the skill build on the top.