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Gipp
02-13-2010, 04:59 AM
ok whats the general consensus about this

uhhhahhhohah
02-13-2010, 05:00 AM
puzzlebox

D8ms``
02-13-2010, 05:19 AM
depends on the synergy of your team, and key enemy heroes

If you have a DS or any armor debuff hero on your team, take advantage of this and go shield breaker, if they have hellbringer/blacksmith etc. go for harkons. It also depends on your enemies and their builts. Pesti with daemonic would obviously be countered by harkons, but harkons would fail against a team with magebane (+15 magic armor for them if magebane blinks)

arcainic
02-13-2010, 05:20 AM
depends, if your team's magic heavy, get harkons.
If enemy stacked a lot of armor, get harkons

if your not farming well or your team's all physical based, get shieldbreaker

FC
02-13-2010, 05:22 AM
I assume this is after steam boots + helm?
Harkons imo, but either is good

awayish`
02-13-2010, 05:36 AM
harkons in most situations. shieldbreaker is a midgame dps item. it is only effective later on when coupled with other -armor items/skills. harkons is extremely effective in more situations and becomes increasingly effective lategame.

Lagibility
02-13-2010, 05:38 AM
harkons + EP = GG. This is for pubs though and if you're not plannin on stackin

awayish`
02-13-2010, 05:43 AM
ep on puppet is terribad. not planning on stacking as puppet, why even pick puppet then

Flair
02-13-2010, 05:46 AM
Picking items depending on the rest of my team's hero picks.

laserblade
02-13-2010, 05:50 AM
Harkons. Shieldbreaker is like 5 patches ago.

arieLOL
02-13-2010, 07:24 AM
puzzlebox and then sheep, your issue isnt doing damage its staying alive

also stop buying elder parasite

_Alice
02-13-2010, 07:43 AM
Harkon + Puzzle FTW

Calcifer
02-13-2010, 08:55 AM
I assume this is after steam boots + helm?
Harkons imo, but either is good

Helm??? U talking about HotBL or Whispering Helm, cos I agree with the latter but not the former

Raskalnikov
02-13-2010, 10:00 AM
Obviously Harkon's if you are the dps carry. Harkon's on puppet is ridiculously good atm after the last patch. Magebane's magic armor buff is still fairly easily overcome by the Harkon's status effect but he could potentially be a problem. Assuming that you are getting counterpicked tho your team should be picking synergistic heroes in which case you will have HB and/or BS and can go Harkon's ftw.

iaguz
02-13-2010, 10:59 AM
Harkons. The item build order is steam boots, Whispering Helm, stack ancients, Harkons, BkB, win the fking game.

If you need convincing on why harkons is awesome, build it and whiplash something. That is all.

Whalecore
02-13-2010, 11:43 AM
Nukers on your team? Go Harkon's.

Auto-attackers on your team? Go Shieldbreaker.

Get Whispering Helm and Shrunken head first though.

LightRain
02-13-2010, 01:13 PM
Whenever I see Puppet in honcast he goes steamboots->whispering helm->shrunken head->harkon's. Except that time against Ophelia when Testie got Alch Bones first.

Outside of an huge -armour team with Pestilence, Shaman, etc., you should probably go Harkon's. For 700 more gold you get the same raw +damage (60), more mana regen and attack speed, and you bypass scaling armour to target static magic armour.

WalkinOnAir
02-13-2010, 01:40 PM
Harkons gives 67dmg on puppet, because of +20% base dmg.

Pandabro
02-13-2010, 03:33 PM
Harkons is simply ridiculous on Puppet. It's unparalleled to any other dps item right now.

nakke
02-13-2010, 03:49 PM
Harkons gives 67dmg on puppet, because of +20% base dmg. and his attacks is magic damage and -5 magic armor. Its like have a double damage rune

Valle
02-13-2010, 04:14 PM
situational like all itembuilds.

kirbyruled
02-13-2010, 06:04 PM
ep on puppet is terribad. not planning on stacking as puppet, why even pick puppet then

Fun/overpowered.

nakke
02-13-2010, 10:51 PM
1650+ bp game with harkons

26688694

I prolly did 5000000000 mistakes so no need to tell me about em
we were down with 2x melee rax 2x ranged rax and we only had 2 of their towers.
But we came back comebined with good teamplay and epic damage

metroid112
02-14-2010, 12:37 AM
The 2, use period to swap between modifiers = win


/thread

awayish`
02-14-2010, 12:39 AM
The 2, use period to swap between modifiers = win


/thread

you mean

/worstbuildever

Barahng
02-14-2010, 12:52 AM
puzzlebox and then sheep, your issue isnt doing damage its staying alive

also stop buying elder parasite
Go watch the x6 Semi-Finals and Finals, Puppet's job IS TO DO DAMAGE.

TBAG1
02-14-2010, 06:45 AM
harkons

your ult deals magic damage, -magic armor is stronger in late game lest they mass headresses and etc for some reason, it looks cooler. issues concerning ass build up are null as (good) puppets should be able to farm extremely well switching between stacks and safe lanes.

/thread

Flair
02-14-2010, 07:26 AM
The 2, use period to swap between modifiers = win


/thread
Pretty dumb to "=win", /thread and use huge text font to make sure everyone see how smart you are when you're posting idiotic builds.

Golski
02-14-2010, 08:27 AM
harkons wins it so easily i almost didnt bother posting.

Kaelillidan
02-14-2010, 02:00 PM
I harkons when my opponents Jer. =)