The Effect of Silence on Passives and Toggles

[Johnson]

So, please tell me if this list is correct / complete.

IN GENERAL

Auras: unaffected by silence
eg - Arachna's, Andro's, and Moon Queen's damage auras
exception - Vinidi's glyph of silence is disabled

Toggles: cannot be toggled while silenced (e.g. stuck on or off)
eg - Arachna's web shot and Devourer's decay
exception - Scout can break vanish by attacking

Chance on attack: works like normal
eg - Pesti's and Chronos' bash

Chance on being attacked: works like normal
eg - Legionnaire's whirling blade and Swiftblade's counter strike

State effects: works like normal
eg - Blood hunter's blood sense & feast
exception - Night hound gets ownd

IN SPECIFIC

AGI:
:nigh:
Backstab - unaffected
Invisibility - skill is disabled for the silence duration & Night Hound is revealed for the silence duration
:swif:
Counter attack - unaffected
Way of the sword - unaffected
:moon:
Multistrike - cannot be toggled on/off
Lunar glow - unaffected
:wild:
Natural attunement - unaffected
:zeph:
Cyclones - Cyclones still spawns on killing units and still auto-heals if they expire during the time you're silenced. However you cannot manually cast it to heal yourself. (thanks to ElementUser)
Wind shield - if on, unaffected, but cannot be cast
:mage:
Mana combustion - unaffected
Master of the Mantra - unaffected
:scou:
Vanish - cannot be toggled on/off but can break by attacking
Electric eye - cannot be used
:andr:
Dimensional link - unaffected
:chro:
Rewind - unaffected
Time freeze - unaffected
:slit:
Toxicity - unaffected
:bloo:
Feast - unaffected
Blood sense - unaffected
:souls:
Soulsteal - unaffected
Dread - cannot be toggled on/off
:madm:
Gash - unaffected
:arac:
Webbed shot - cannot be toggled on/off
Precision - unaffected
:corr:
Static discharge - unaffected
:sand:
Desserted - unaffected
Dissapate - unaffected
:fors:
Split fire - cannot be toggled on/off
Call of the damned - unaffected

INT:
:blac:
Chaotic flames - unaffected
:glac:
Chilling presence - unaffected
:thun:
Lightening rod - unaffected
:pyro:
Fervor - unaffected
:vind:
Glyph of silence - disabled (thanks to Sadhe and Est0)
:defi:
Power in death - unaffected
:pupp:
Whiplash - unaffected
:tort:
Torment - cannot be toggled on/off
:soulr:
Withering presence - unaffected
Inhuman nature - unaffected

STR:
:arma:
Armadillo - unaffected
Restless - "unaffected"
:behe:
Heavyweight - "unaffected"
:pebb:
Slab skin - unaffected, and shortens silence duration
Enlarge - unaffected
:keep:
Camouflage - does not break invis, but can't recast
:legi:
Whirling blade - unaffected
:pred:
Carnivorous - unaffected
:jera:
Righteous strike - unaffected
:ramp:
Might of the herd - unaffected
Horned strike - unaffected
:devo:
Decay - cannot be toggled on/off
Cadaver armor - unaffected
:elec:
Electric shield - cannot be toggled on/off
:krak:
Splash - cannot be toggled on/off
Tidal pull - unaffected
:warb:
Primal rage - unaffected
:accu:
Sear - unaffected
Flame consumption - cannot be triggered manually except with staff of the master, no longer triggers passively (thanks to RobotNixon)
:pest:
Gore - unaffected
:mali:
Sword of the damned - cannot toggle sword when silenced, so he can't change it or activate it either (thanks to ElementUser)
Hellbourne zeal - unaffected
:magm:
Volcanic touch - unaffected

[haschisch]

night hound will stay visible while he is silenced (if he was visible when silenced).

[Sadhe]

Vindicator's Glyph of Silence and (many? most?) stealth effects should be or are deactivated during silence.

[ElementUser]

Night Hound's stealth is an exception because it's a passive that applies a state to Night Hound. Other stealth sources like Vanish/Assassin's Shroud/Invisibility are not passives (rather they are actives or toggles that apply the state)

[Est0]

Also Vindi's aura is disabled when he is silenced.

[Surger]

the silence on devo is a big ole pain in the ass

early you can get screwed pretty quick by a bh if you turn rot on

[Johnson]

So,
I updated my post with all the heroes and their passives and toggles and what I think happens.

PLEASE POST ANY CORRECTIONS

and the ones in RED are ones I am unsure of

[ElementUser]

Sword of the Damned: Maliken cannot toggle sword when silenced, so he can't change it or activate it either.

Cadaver Armor: It is still active for both the killing unit str bonus (while silenced) and the resist still works.

Camouflage: Correct.

Slab Skin: Correct.

Glyph of Silence: Correct.

Call of the Damned: Correct.

Cyclones: Cyclones still spawns on killing units and still auto-heals if they expire during the time you're silenced. However you cannot manually cast it to heal yourself.

Rewind: Unaffected.

:accu: Flame Consumption: cannot be triggered manually, does trigger passively.

[Johnson]

Sword of the Damned: Maliken cannot toggle sword when silenced, so he can't change it or activate it either.

Cadaver Armor: It is still active for both the killing unit str bonus (while silenced) and the resist still works.

Camouflage: Correct.

Slab Skin: Correct.

Glyph of Silence: Correct.

Call of the Damned: Correct.

Cyclones: Cyclones still spawns on killing units and still auto-heals if they expire during the time you're silenced. However you cannot manually cast it to heal yourself.

Rewind: Unaffected.

Thanks for the info ElementUser, I updated the list.

That was fun, hopefully it will serve as a resource for others now (if I am the only one to not know this stuff, lol).

[Est0]

Might as well make it a sticky ;)

[Johnson]

Might as well make it a sticky ;)

I'll PM ElementUser, see what he thinks

[Johnson]

I'll PM ElementUser, see what he thinks

Done, Thanks Element User!

[Evozer]

So, please tell me if this list is correct / complete.


IN SPECIFIC

AGI:
:nigh:
Backstab - unaffected
Invisibility - unaffected because it is a state effect



If nighthound is silenced when he is visible, he will not go invis until the silence wears off. You might want to add that

[haschisch]

i already that said in the second post. :(

[Johnson]

Edit: uh,
I thought NH returned to invis even when silenced. I'll check this when I can.

[Evozer]

Edit: uh,
I thought NH returned to invis even when silenced. I'll check this when I can.

He doesnt, im 100% sure about it

[Jotain]

Silence is great counter to nh

[Habile]

<onframe>
<condition test="not_hastrait silenced" target="source_entity" source="source_entity">
<applystate name="State_Hantumon_Ability4" duration="100" />
</condition>
</onframe>

If NH is Silenced while stealthed, he will not be revealed until the duration of stealth runs out. Though, it only lasts 100ms, so it should seem relatively instant.

This is how it works in DotA. It's also how it appears to be coded here, though I have not actually tested it in game.

[ElementUser]

No, in DotA Stealth Assassin & any unit with permanent invisibility gets revealed until the silence duration is over: http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=241560

Same with Night Hound. Don't know why there are so many misconceptions here, thought I handled it with my first post. So I'll just edit the first post myself and fix that

[Est0]

Madman and stalk? ;)

[Habile]

No, in DotA Stealth Assassin & any unit with permanent invisibility gets revealed until the silence duration is over: http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=241560

Same with Night Hound. Don't know why there are so many misconceptions here, thought I handled it with my first post. So I'll just edit the first post myself and fix that

I was merely saying that silence does not actually remove his invisibility, at least from a technical standpoint. It just prevents it from being reapplied. Each instance only lasts 100ms.

Overall, it should appear nearly identical to the same ability from DotA.

[ElementUser]

I was merely saying that silence does not actually remove his invisibility, at least from a technical standpoint. It just prevents it from being reapplied. Each instance only lasts 100ms.

Overall, it should appear nearly identical to the same ability from DotA.

Oh sorry then :(

[Sku1l]

A detail :
update for :chro: 's bash that now called 'Curse of age' + the fact that it has no more a chance to stun (now count down attack like puppet's whiplash )

[ChikenMC]

.....

[Assassine]

as this already got pushed anyway:
:zeph:
Wind shield - if on, unaffected, but cannot be cast no active anymore anyway, buff still applies/refreshes while silenced

:tort:
Torment - cannot be toggled on/off turns off when he is silenced, poor guy