Nome's Fury

[SLASHER`]

Nome's Fury

I'm sorry Nome if you're reading this and you don't like your name being used in this item. It is meant to be a complimentary item to Nome's Wisdom and therefor I used the name.

Please comment if you're voting, especially if you're voting against this item.

Recipe:
http://i36.tinypic.com/10s4s2u.jpg Mighty Blade - 1000
http://i36.tinypic.com/2drggld.jpg Refreshing Ornament - 603
http://i38.tinypic.com/2upwcaf.jpg Major Totem - 540
http://i38.tinypic.com/ofvxad.jpg Recipe - 857
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http://i35.tinypic.com/qzk8ye.jpg - Nome's Fury - 3000

+16 Strength
+6 Agility
+6 Intelligence
+3 hp/s regen
+3 hp/s regen aura
Passive Ability (wearer only) - 25% of the mana cost of spells is done in true damage to enemy heroes in an 600 AOE. Maximum of 90 damage.

This item gives the wearer the ability to do additional damage from spells. This item's passive effects are not triggered by item activations.


This may be going a little too far but....


Nome's Essence!
http://i35.tinypic.com/172r06.jpg Nome's Wisdom - 2300
http://i35.tinypic.com/qzk8ye.jpg Nome's Fury - 3000
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3102 Nome's Essence - 5300

+24 Strength and Intelligence
+12 Damage and Agility
+125% mana regen
+4 hp/s regen
+1.5 mana regen aura
+4 hp/s regen aura
Passive effects
Aura - 30% of mana spent heals hero
Not Aura - 30% of mana spent is dealt in 600 AOE true damage to heroes. maximum is 110


Had this idea and thought I'd put it out there. This gives casters a beefy item that allows them to do some damage for the team and support them as well. The Nome name doesn't have to stay, it's just what made sense to me at the time.

Please comment on concept and numbers. Thank you.

[Nome]

I am a huge rager, so I approve.

[Ohyeah`]

800 AoE is too large.

Also, specify what the range is on Nome's Essence.

[Aarne]

+1 from mee

[Damage]

Looks pretty solid. +1

[Fearz]

+1, although I cant see how most supports gonna get this ><.

[MsChoksOnDik]

I approve of any Nome branded product +1

[B93]

It's got "Nome" on it - it'll probably be implemented right after Idejer sees it.

[Padawanabee]

On the point of the second item: Nome's Wisdom is already ridiculously good at what it does. Making it part of a larger recipe would be a buff to an item that does not need buffs. Nome's Fury is alright, if a bit bland. Magebane already has the skill.

[Hiroshi1]

If I read that right it does extra damage to enemies from a spell you cast, not what they cast. So its not the same as magebane's aura.

I like this idea. :)

[Typhus`]

one of the only threads i think i should comment on...

i like the idea, gives support heros a chance to help, or even an early game hero help out late game... imo.

+1 from me

[Razaad]

When i saw the name I just thought, lol, another horrible overpowered nomes wisdom tweak, but it turned out to look like quite a nice idea, in my opinion, so i voted yes.
Although i think the second item is too much as you stated yourself even, and the minimum damage needs to be removed, it seems too much for a hero like armadon who can spam low cost spells every second for another 15 AOE damage.

[Simbamatic]

A conditional yes. Due to the option including "with some tweaking." I don't know what can be done other than changing the name, but I like items that would be good on some and not on others. This semi seems like something everyone would push for.

No offense Nome, but the one item you have named after you right now, is really good. If too many other things come out with your name on it, I think it might just get stale :/

We wouldn't want that now, would we? ;)

[Padawanabee]

If I read that right it does extra damage to enemies from a spell you cast, not what they cast. So its not the same as magebane's aura.

I like this idea. :)

Right, my bad. The way it reads makes it very easy to think it's like Magebane's aura. It's actually like Thunderbringer's.

[Orkimond]

I like the idea of an item that goes with nomes wisdom, but i dont like 2 auras...

[SLASHER`]

There aren't 2 auras and the damage from Nome's Fury is only like Thunderbringers passive because it does aoe damage. It's not based on there health. Think of it as the opposite of Nome's Wisdom but instead of healng yourself, you are damaging nearby enemies for the same number. As much respect as I have for Nome, I'm not trying to spam his name and the title of this item doesn't matter a lot to me. I'm reducing the minimum damage slightly. Keep in mind Armadon would need to purchase this item to reap it's benefits since it's not an aura.

[OhBob]

Again, countering Nome's Wisdom makes no sense for the game. Also, check his other item, Emerald Sceptre.

[blackosprey]

Could do with some tweaking, but +1 here.

[SLASHER`]

This isn't really a counter to NW. Thanks for the blanket statement tho.

[OJPhoenix]

maybe he thought you meant that opponent's spellcaster's take the damage based on their mana cost, in otherwise, literally the opposite of NW, it amazes me how much people seem to misunderstand things

anywho I think this is an awesome idea, I can see a lot of caster's wanting that Nome's Essence alright, heck I know I would get it :D +1

[goNx]

Way too powerful. I don't like it - it makes going carry items on support heroes insane. Hell, this item on Panda would be insane.

[SLASHER`]

Way too powerful. I don't like it - it makes going carry items on support heroes insane. Hell, this item on Panda would be insane.

I'm not really sure what you mean. You're suggesting that if Panda spent 2800 gold on an item that would make his spells deal 25, 21, 10, and 25 (ult level 1, 25, level 2, 44, and level 3, 62) bonus damage it would be OP?

I know this idea isn't flawless, but I have a hard time understanding where you're coming from with those statements. Feel free to elaborate.

[yyr_]

Just throwing this out there, you should problem post to get this moved into popular forum if you havent already =)

[Twilight33]

i actually like both items but thats just me. min and max should be removed though.

[OhBob]

Nome's shouldn't be buffed, it is like buffing Abyssal skull. It's meant to be a mid game item, this would make it overpowered.

Nome's Fury is pretty fine, but no one would pay 3000 gold to receive a 100~300 bonus damage for their combo. I guess :poll: or :succ: or:witc: could manage to get a few more but it's too weak for its cost.

[SLASHER`]

DanieLmc, this is the second time you have commented on this item saying that it's a counter to Nome's Wisdom. I respect that you do not like the concept, but please don't say it is a counter to NW or like Magebane's passive. The damage dealt by this item is based on the amount of mana the wearer spends on spells and therefor is not a NW counter or like Magebane's passive.

[OhBob]

Sorry, I was about to edit that. My mistake.

just ready it again =o

[SLASHER`]

it's ok :)
I just didn't want people to read comments and get the wrong impression of the item.

[Hat_Truck]

Now someone needs to make an item called Nome's Bad :)

<3 you Nome

[Connatic]

I like the idea more items that give support/INT heroes more damage via their abilities/nukes. Something that helps them scale more mid-late game. As of right now the only thing that makes a support/INT hero scale is any crowd control they have.

Not sure if I like how this idea will do that, but it's a start. I vote Yes, not necessarly for this exact item, but something like it.

[Kirbyski]

I really like this idea, +1 absolutely

[HaseoThePKK]

Awesome idea, I approve

[AtroCty]

Soul Reaper will like this.

[babsa_90]

seems like it would rape face with armadon ... i vote yes. :P

[t`t`wisper]

:arma: :soulr: <3 u

+1

[Willza]

+16 Strength
+6 Agility
+6 Intelligence
+3 hp/s regen
+3 hp/s regen aura
Passive Ability (wearer only) - 25% of the mana cost of spells is done in true damage to enemy heroes in an 600 AOE. Minimum of 10 damage, Maximum of 90 damage.

maybe change it too

****25% of the mana cost of spells is done in true damage to enemy heroes that thay cast within the 800 range Aura min 12 max 112 dam

+24 Strength and Intelligence
+12 Damage and Agility
+125% mana regen
+4 hp/s regen
+1.5 mana regen aura
+4 hp/s regen aura
Passive effects
Aura - 30% of mana spent heals hero
Not Aura - 30% of mana spent is dealt in 600 AOE true damage to heroes. Minimum is 12 damage, maximum is 108

****30% of the mana cost of spells is done in true damage to enemy heroes that thay cast within the 800 range Aura min 12 max 112 dam

[Chafe]

:arma:op

[SLASHER`]

true. :arma: is too OP as it is.

[Gringos]

Extra 10 true dmg on every cast of arma, oh my! And he actually has to spend gold for it, instead of putting it in survivability?

Freedom of choice, gentlemen.

I actually approve this item. :temp:

[Chafe]

It's 8,75 TRUE damage every third second to every hero in a 600 radius,
while it can seem low just think about it.

[docterj208]

Meh, not sure how great this item would be, although, it is rather interesting.

So I guess I t-up.

[ethereale]

pretty good item but i think the aoe should just be restricted to the spell and mayb add sum casting speed buffs in there

[WolveZCodeX]

Does is stack with TB's passive?
Does it reveal invisible units just like TB's passive?

T-UP

[havoc]

Does it break mesmerize seeing as it's true damage?
I like the max damage cap but min seems a little too good on Armadon as has been mentioned profusely here.

Also, NW works off spell cast not mana use, would this follow in suit; I ask this specifically alluding to Torturer ult as it would add +25 (i think) damage per pulse if so.

[SLASHER`]

Thanks for the feedback. I removed the minimum damage. This does stack with TB's passive but does not reveal invisible units. I suppose it would break mesmerize and would therefor be a bad item to get on a succubus team. This item's damage should be based off of the cast. Thanks.

[Calcifer]

I like it too, it stops casters from being totally useless in lategame by making their spells hossome :P

[tromb2ch2]

I like the effect and it makes it so when you play a hero as a support hero, you can do decent damage as well +1.

[elNiuBi]

I voted yes on the concept, but I find this overpowered. The problem is that if you nerf it, it will end up being too expensive.

Dunno... seems too strong like this, specially the second item.

[Ventus]

imo, nerf nome's wisdom, and nome's fury, THEN, Nome's essence will be good. with a few tweaks. voted yes

[terrorclown]

**** yes. +1

[FuzioN]

love the item :) +1

[MrFrogger]

nice idea and it dont has to be tweaked =D

[ImmaYeti]

Hmmmm can you say blacksmith carry? I LOVE IT +1

[Thurr]

This would be an interesting item on a spammer like Armadon. Hopefuly true damage wouldn't be too much. Buttttt a bufff for Armadon is :arma: duhhhhh O.k. with me.

[SLASHER`]

This would be an interesting item on a spammer like Armadon. Hopefuly true damage wouldn't be too much. Buttttt a bufff for Armadon is :arma: duhhhhh O.k. with me.

lol. yeah the true damage could add up. The numbers may need some tweaking but I'm glad you like the concept.

[Pineapple]

t-up for nomes fury. but change the name.
t-down for nomes essence. nomes wisdom doesnt need an upgrade at all..
voted: yes

[got4close]

Bump. We need more baby sitter stuff.

[Splendid]

i would love to see this! great idea!

[Eclipse]

I really like this. Creative, useful, and with enough numerical tweaking, definitely a potentially viable but not broken item.

[Kukubara23]

+1 and why hasn't it been put into hon yet xD

[SmokeShow]

No offense but honestly this is a ridiculously silly item.

Are you just randomly making an item for fun???

Every item in the game solves some sort of problem and i'm not sure what you think you are adding to the game by proposing this..

Please, if you're going to make an item define the metagame in it's current state. Point out a problem with the metagame. You can then move to illustrate how your item elegantly solves that problem.

Don't just throw a bunch of nonsense together and give it some ass kiss name and expect it to be thrown in the game.

[LateGame]

change the name.... more than one item as nomes gets lame

[fevian]

Hell yes.

[fevian]

No offense but honestly this is a ridiculously silly item.

Are you just randomly making an item for fun???

Every item in the game solves some sort of problem and i'm not sure what you think you are adding to the game by proposing this..

Please, if you're going to make an item define the metagame in it's current state. Point out a problem with the metagame. You can then move to illustrate how your item elegantly solves that problem.

Don't just throw a bunch of nonsense together and give it some ass kiss name and expect it to be thrown in the game.

Sorry for doublepost, but...

Dude, there was no need to be so rude. There is a problem this can fix. In longer games, nukers tend to lose effect and can usually only straight-up kill/maim the weakest/least-farmed hero. This item will boost the damage and at least supplement damage neede to remain useful.

[MaXi]

good idea, we need more items with that nice stats boost and some bonus :) love items with many lowcost parts in recipe :D

[The_Beholder]

I love the copy paste job of Nome's Essence.

Also, this item would of been great pre-Balphagiggles.

But a full bore Hell on Newerth + this = MY FLESH, IT BURNS!

[Arcadeus]

i think to make it a little more balanced the maximum bonus damage on Nome's Fury should be 40 + Heroes level x3, however stopping at 90 or 95 dmg, so it will scale abit more, eg a pyro or witch slayer who was ganking effectively could get this before level 9, and their ultimates would be hugely boosted considering how early in the game it is, and how effective they already are. I think this would balance them a little better. Im probably wrong, its just off the top off my head im no balance pro. thumbs up on the concept definately tho :) +1

[Tomate]

I got to admit I love the idea. Nome's essence is necessary though to be implemented with nome's wisdom...

Unfortunately, this will only see action in rare occasions... Supports do not often find the way to get their hands on a 5300 gold item.

[GauntElakor]

Well, it is really expensive. But it is also the ULTIMATE nuker item. It gives every INT hero (and some not-INT heroes a longer "lifespan" before they are useless. I really love it and would try to get this a lot.

[Puchi]

I like the item, it would be awesome on str heroes who has a lot of spells, heroes who come in mind are armadon, pebbles, pharaoh, panda etc nice item!

[InsaneOdin]

they should make class dependent items like runed axe only for melee heroes
make some items only for ints heroes / agi heroes / str heroes

that atleast have some function to the ingame challenge

[GauntElakor]

I dont believe that is relevant to this item, altough you are right. But this topic is all about nomes furry and essence.

[Drastone]

Change it to nigma's fury :> then it becomes...

NOGME'S ESSENCE. lol

[GauntElakor]

NOGME FTW it is then :D

[Disappoint]

These items would probably bring torturer/Sr back into the meta-game...... While Making Dr. Repulser even more OP. Meh.

[Jigglyballs]

yea be great! just maybe add a recipe to nomes essence?

[Hatebane]

This would be quite awesome for Demented. Soul Reaper aswell.

T-up.

[HoboJones]

Uh... this item could really overpower certain heroes. Doc, Arma and Thunder in particular leap to mind. Points for creativity, but yeah, too many repercussions.

[FranticFrog]

Voted Yes, though I would like the Fury to be Aura as well. (Whatever the balanced numbers would be then)

[Ryper7]

i do like the idea, but with spellshards being already implemented it mite make this item useless. although it does provide for alot more tankiness aswell, so id love to see it implemented to make sr, tort, and defiler more viable.

[Arctus_Tibal]

I think it should be magic dmg not true dmg but def a cool idea.

[Rekondo]

:pyro: + this + Spellshards = OP

[FlareForce]

I like the idea, T-up!. Nome's essence though, seems kind of overpowered just because it only takes up one item slot. There should be a moderate cost recipe to go with it.

[LightofdaY]

600 aoe is too big. Imagine powerhouses like pebs or pyro with level 3 spellshards. Wow that'll be like another 270 bonus damage. If done on top of 5 heroes. that's a heck of alot of aoe.

[Token]

great idea, kgo s2 bring it to the test servers (Y)

[Vulcan]

This is utterly awesome, I really like the combination of the items to give nukers a late game item that allows them to really keep that spammable damage output continuing throughout the game. Awesome!

[SniperNinja]

I like the idea of both items, the problem is torturer, he would rape face with the items. True dmg should be magic, I give a yes if it gets tweaked abit.

[Pow3rFr34K]

Two years have passed and this still hasn't been added yet? The item is PURE GOLD! Well thought out and I can make my Bubbles even deadlier now(MUHAHA). Also, this on a Jere will be really, REALLY deadly and on other supports and casters who have high mana costs(I swear, I would make this bad boy on half the heroes, great synergy with Behemoth's skill-set and other heroes like Gauntlet and other heroes, who spam their spells). +1 and I am sad that I can't give it +100 =[

[bledq]

Nome fury should deal magic damage, true would be waaay too OP, plus Nome's essence should be more expensive.