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Meem
02-03-2010, 08:06 AM
Overview
The citizens of a small Legion village one morning wake up to discover that there are Hellborne in their town! If something is not done, the entire village population will be infested and killed!Teams
There are two teams, Legion (saplings) and Hellborne (imps). On the Hellborne side there are imps and Hellborne heroes (see below). They all know each other, and may communicate with each other at night. On the Legion side you have the saplings and Legion heroes. The Hellborne win by eliminating enough people so that they make up half of the players in the game. The Legion win by eliminating all the Hellborne players.Turn Structure
The game alternates between two phases, a Day phase and a Night phase.

Day Phase - During the day, the village gets together to discuss and decide who might be a Hellborne! Everyone votes who they think is an imp (votes may be changed at any time during the day). If someone gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched, and the Night phase begins.

Night Phase - During the night phase, the imps (AKA Hellborne) decide who they are going to eat! They are allowed to communicate privately outside the main thread to make this decision. Also, anyone with a special role get additional actions during the night as well.Roles
Roles are randomly assigned by me (SpasticMouse) via a random number generator, once enough players have signed up and the game is ready to begin.

Legion (AKA Villagers/Saps)

Victory: All Hellborne players are eliminated.
Defeat: Hellborne team takes up half or more of remaining live players.

The Sapling - Anyone who is a regular villager is trying to lynch the imps during the day, and has no action at night. Lynches are determined by Votes. A voting post can be as simple as "I vote ______," and must be in the color green. This is to make the thread easier to read for me, as there are a lot more players this round. All players must vote. They win if all the Hellborne are dead.

The Scout - During the day the Scout talks and votes just like the saplings. At night, Scout is allowed to Track any one townsperson by PMing me, determining his/her role.

Jeraziah - During the day, Jeraziah talks and votes just like the saplings. At night, Jeraziah has the ability Protective Charm. Protective Charm protects any one player from the Hellborne at night. Jeraziah cannot protect himself.

Witch Slayer - During the day, Witch Slayer talks and votes just like the saplings. At night, Witch Slayer has the Silver Bullet ability. Silver Bullet is a targeted ability that instantly kills any live player. It has a 3 full-phase cooldown (3 days and 3 nights). If Silver Bullet is used on a protected target, or if Witch Slayer is mesmerized on the night he attempts Silver Bullet, the cooldown is triggered but the target is unharmed.

If Witch Slayer is killed on the same night he used Silver Bullet, Silver Bullet will still go off, and both Witch Slayer and his target will die (unless of course his target was the last remaining Hellborne player).

Legionnaire - During the day, Legionnaire talks and votes just like the saplings. However, Legionnaire can vote Doublevote; he can vote twice, for either the same player, or two different players once if he wishes. Legionnaire's role is revealed at the start of the game.



Hellborne (AKA Imps)

Victory: Hellborne team takes up half or more of remaining live players.
Defeat: All Hellborne players are eliminated.

The Imp - Imps talk and vote during the day just like saplings. At night they, along with any Hellborne heroes, collectively choose or vote on a victim by PMing me during Night. The Hellborne will win if there are as many Hellborne as other people remaining in the game.

The Madman - Madman has the same role as an imp but has the special ability to Stalk another being (any live player in the game) by PMing me during Night. Upon stalkage, Madman follows his victim during the night. If Scout decides to track Madman, he will be returned the role of Madman's victim rather than Madman. Stalk does not kill the victim, it only allows Madman to conceal his own role during the night and fool Scout. Madman is on the Imp side and has the same winning conditions.

Example: Madman stalks a sapling and Scout tracks Madman. Scout will receive the message that the player who is Madman is a Sapling.

The Succubus - Succubus has the role of an imp, but has the abilities Smitten and Mesmerize. Smitten renders any player (the Succubus herself even) powerless to vote during the day. Mesmerize disables a legion player during the night, preventing them from using their abilities. Smitten can only be used on Even Days (Day 2, 4, 6), and Mesmerize can only be used on Even Nights (Night 2, 4, 6). Smitten and Mesmerize cannot be used on the same player twice in a row.

If Succubus successfully Mesmerizes a legion hero who was attempting to use a skill, it will be revealed the next day. The player itself will not be revealed as the role, but I will say something like "Scout attempted to track, but found himself mesmerized instead." If Jera protects a target that was not attacked, and Succubus mesmerizes him, there will be no public announcement. Same with Witch Slayer if he did not attempt a Silver Bullet.

Furthermore, Jeraziah's Protective Charm does not protect a player from being Mesmerized at night.

Other Rules
No talking when dead. A post with some sort of funny comment is allowed, however no strategy content should be included; "I knew I had it coming" is okay but "David and Snorlax are clearly imps, look into their voting history" is not. Dead imp are dead in imp chat as well. They may not give any further strategy input.

As Hellborne, no confessional betrayals. By this I mean, ruining the game by raging and posting in the thread who the other Hellborne are. If you do this, myself and many others will be very sad. Also, you'll be banned from future games, obviously. This also means that you may not fake confessional betrayals like Positronz did in game 1. Although it was a strategic ploy and a lie, it will be illegal in future games.

Individual Legion players may not strategically discuss the game privately; they must do so with all other players in the thread, and during daytime.

This game is not a speed game. Day will take as long as needed to get a vote, so you can discuss and change your mind. Once a reasonable time has passed, and a majority vote has been cast a lynching will take place and night will begin.

This is a game of deception. You CAN reveal your role publicly (in fact that is the only way you should be revealing your role at all), however it may not always be strategically wise.

To keep the thread easier to read, at night please don't post too much in the thread. Night will end ASAP (basically whenever the imps and heroes have contacted me). Then day will begin, etc.

At the moment I'm thinking of having 4 Hellborne, 12 Legion, which would mean 1 Scout, 1 Jera, 1 Lego, 1 Witch, 8 Saplings on the Legion, and 1 Succub, 1 Madman, 2 Imps on the Hellborne.

Please type "I'm In" to enter this game. Once we have a good number of players (shooting for 16) I will work out the number of saplings/imps, and contact players on their roles. Any other questions regarding the game can be asked here. I should be online enough that the game doesn't get stuck for too long, but please try to be patient and check the thread once in a while to fulfill your roles if you are in.

Current players: 16/16
Pettypete
Danvari
`MileyCyrus`
RogerDodger1
Sidekick
ll4mma
_
Victo
Maliwan
chickenfoo
Kluckmuck
devilesk
uWPBobble
Scout4life
Kennedy
xSai


Replacement list:

ShadowExile (?)
xMonodo
Elarrion
Javu

MileyCyrus
02-03-2010, 01:42 PM
I WANT IN!!!

SideKick1
02-03-2010, 02:00 PM
Sign me up.

Fiesta
02-03-2010, 03:39 PM
*Raises Hand*

KARTlK
02-03-2010, 03:58 PM
Gonna play.

Alba
02-03-2010, 04:14 PM
same as the wolf game?

Victo
02-03-2010, 04:15 PM
Sign me up please.

Maliwan
02-03-2010, 04:25 PM
I will play.

Chickenfoo
02-03-2010, 04:46 PM
Whoa, i would like to try this game.

Kluckmuck
02-03-2010, 04:54 PM
Im in!

KARTlK
02-03-2010, 05:22 PM
"Once we have a good number of players (shooting for 24) I will work out the number of saplings/imps"

fix

devilesk
02-03-2010, 05:39 PM
i will play

Bobble
02-03-2010, 06:40 PM
I'm in.

02-03-2010, 06:50 PM
I'm in

Kennedy
02-03-2010, 07:14 PM
I'm in.

Sai
02-03-2010, 07:36 PM
I'm in.


Just to destroy Kennedy.

RogerDodger
02-03-2010, 07:47 PM
Hopefully each day won't take 2 weeks this time :scou:

And just like in every pub I hope the :scou: doesn't feed.

"Im in"

Meem
02-03-2010, 07:49 PM
* Sending roles now *

Danvari
02-03-2010, 07:51 PM
* Sending roles now *

Woohoo!

Meem
02-03-2010, 08:06 PM
All roles have been sent; if you haven't received it, PM me.

Game 3 begins.

** Battle horn sounds **
It is now Night 1.

Danvari has been declared the Legionnaire.

Scout PM me track target.
Jera PM me protect target.
Hellborne PM me kill target.

Player list (16):

Pettypete
Danvari
`MileyCyrus`
RogerDodger1
Sidekick
ll4mma
_
Victo
Maliwan
chickenfoo
Kluckmuck
devilesk
uWPBobble
Scout4life
Kennedy
xSai

Danvari
02-03-2010, 08:20 PM
Wow. This is so ****ing great. I'm legionnaire.

02-03-2010, 08:58 PM
How does this start, like it's kinda hard to really say anything now. Perhaps we need to wait a full turn cycle to decide what the topic of conversation is?

Fiesta
02-03-2010, 09:00 PM
How does this start, like it's kinda hard to really say anything now. Perhaps we need to wait a full turn cycle to decide what the topic of conversation is?

Usually, in-thread chat is kept to a minimum during Night, as it is time for the Hellbourne to act, and people with special roles to do their thing via PM.

It really starts on Day 1.

rss
02-03-2010, 10:59 PM
****!!

I'm too late :(

RogerDodger
02-04-2010, 01:10 AM
Is it 12 legion, 4 helbourne? You didn't actually confirm if it was.

Meem
02-04-2010, 01:22 AM
^It is.

ShadowExile
02-04-2010, 02:08 AM
Damnit. I come home and was at school and miss out. Put me down on the emergency replacement list please.

rss
02-04-2010, 02:52 AM
Damnit. I come home and was at school and miss out. Put me down on the emergency replacement list please.


ME TOO PLEASE.

IF ANYONE GOES MISSING

GET ME TO FILL IN IM KEEN AS TO PLAY BUT MISSED OUT

thanks

RogerDodger
02-04-2010, 03:35 AM
Thats what you get for living in friggen Australia.

This thread popped up at about 2am for us lol.

VWoolfShirt
02-04-2010, 03:42 AM
party in this house

420 post in game thred everyday

rss
02-04-2010, 03:42 AM
D:

^ that

Kluckmuck
02-04-2010, 03:43 AM
Are we going to start or what?

SideKick1
02-04-2010, 04:21 AM
It starts when the night actions are complete.

Bobble
02-04-2010, 04:45 AM
Thats what you get for living in friggen Australia.

This thread popped up at about 2am for us lol.

No, that's what you get for going to school in Australia. Luckily, I don't. Got in safe and sound. Sorry.

RogerDodger
02-04-2010, 04:47 AM
I'd like to have some sort of 'afk kick' thing where if someone is inactive for say... 3 days (Without prior notice) they get replaced.

A couple people last game (Acedis for one) didn't say anything and it slows the pace of the game down.

Elarrion
02-04-2010, 07:43 AM
I'd like to be queued as well in case someone goes amiss.

Javu
02-04-2010, 08:29 AM
lol so many people on the replacement list goddamit :P!
put my name down too,i followed the first two games and would love to play this one

Sineplol
02-04-2010, 12:18 PM
Overview
The citizens of a small Legion village one morning wake up to discover that there are Hellborne in their town! If something is not done, the entire village population will be infested and killed!Teams
There are two teams, Legion (saplings) and Hellborne (imps). On the Hellborne side there are imps and Hellborne heroes (see below). They all know each other, and may communicate with each other at night. On the Legion side you have the saplings and Legion heroes. The Hellborne win by eliminating enough people so that they make up half of the players in the game. The Legion win by eliminating all the Hellborne players.Turn Structure
The game alternates between two phases, a Day phase and a Night phase.

Day Phase - During the day, the village gets together to discuss and decide who might be a Hellborne! Everyone votes who they think is an imp (votes may be changed at any time during the day). If someone gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched, and the Night phase begins.

Night Phase - During the night phase, the imps (AKA Hellborne) decide who they are going to eat! They are allowed to communicate privately outside the main thread to make this decision. Also, anyone with a special role get additional actions during the night as well.Roles
Roles are randomly assigned by me (SpasticMouse) via a random number generator, once enough players have signed up and the game is ready to begin.

Legion (AKA Villagers/Saps)

Victory: All Hellborne players are eliminated.
Defeat: Hellborne team takes up half or more of remaining live players.

The Sapling - Anyone who is a regular villager is trying to lynch the imps during the day, and has no action at night. Lynches are determined by Votes. A voting post can be as simple as "I vote ______," and must be in the color green. This is to make the thread easier to read for me, as there are a lot more players this round. All players must vote. They win if all the Hellborne are dead.

The Scout - During the day the Scout talks and votes just like the saplings. At night, Scout is allowed to Track any one townsperson by PMing me, determining his/her role.

Jeraziah - During the day, Jeraziah talks and votes just like the saplings. At night, Jeraziah has the ability Protective Charm. Protective Charm protects any one player from the Hellborne at night. Jeraziah cannot protect himself.

Witch Slayer - During the day, Witch Slayer talks and votes just like the saplings. At night, Witch Slayer has the Silver Bullet ability. Silver Bullet is a targeted ability that instantly kills any live player. It has a 3 full-phase cooldown (3 days and 3 nights). If Silver Bullet is used on a protected target, or if Witch Slayer is mesmerized on the night he attempts Silver Bullet, the cooldown is triggered but the target is unharmed.

If Witch Slayer is killed on the same night he used Silver Bullet, Silver Bullet will still go off, and both Witch Slayer and his target will die (unless of course his target was the last remaining Hellborne player).

Legionnaire - During the day, Legionnaire talks and votes just like the saplings. However, Legionnaire can vote Doublevote; he can vote twice, for either the same player, or two different players once if he wishes. Legionnaire's role is revealed at the start of the game.



Hellborne (AKA Imps)

Victory: Hellborne team takes up half or more of remaining live players.
Defeat: All Hellborne players are eliminated.

The Imp - Imps talk and vote during the day just like saplings. At night they, along with any Hellborne heroes, collectively choose or vote on a victim by PMing me during Night. The Hellborne will win if there are as many Hellborne as other people remaining in the game.

The Madman - Madman has the same role as an imp but has the special ability to Stalk another being (any live player in the game) by PMing me during Night. Upon stalkage, Madman follows his victim during the night. If Scout decides to track Madman, he will be returned the role of Madman's victim rather than Madman. Stalk does not kill the victim, it only allows Madman to conceal his own role during the night and fool Scout. Madman is on the Imp side and has the same winning conditions.

Example: Madman stalks a sapling and Scout tracks Madman. Scout will receive the message that the player who is Madman is a Sapling.

The Succubus - Succubus has the role of an imp, but has the abilities Smitten and Mesmerize. Smitten renders any player (the Succubus herself even) powerless to vote during the day. Mesmerize disables a legion player during the night, preventing them from using their abilities. Smitten can only be used on Even Days (Day 2, 4, 6), and Mesmerize can only be used on Even Nights (Night 2, 4, 6). Smitten and Mesmerize cannot be used on the same player twice in a row.

If Succubus successfully Mesmerizes a legion hero who was attempting to use a skill, it will be revealed the next day. The player itself will not be revealed as the role, but I will say something like "Scout attempted to track, but found himself mesmerized instead." If Jera protects a target that was not attacked, and Succubus mesmerizes him, there will be no public announcement. Same with Witch Slayer if he did not attempt a Silver Bullet.

Furthermore, Jeraziah's Protective Charm does not protect a player from being Mesmerized at night.

Other Rules
No talking when dead. A post with some sort of funny comment is allowed, however no strategy content should be included; "I knew I had it coming" is okay but "David and Snorlax are clearly imps, look into their voting history" is not. Dead imp are dead in imp chat as well. They may not give any further strategy input.

As Hellborne, no confessional betrayals. By this I mean, ruining the game by raging and posting in the thread who the other Hellborne are. If you do this, myself and many others will be very sad. Also, you'll be banned from future games, obviously. This also means that you may not fake confessional betrayals like Positronz did in game 1. Although it was a strategic ploy and a lie, it will be illegal in future games.

Individual Legion players may not strategically discuss the game privately; they must do so with all other players in the thread, and during daytime.

This game is not a speed game. Day will take as long as needed to get a vote, so you can discuss and change your mind. Once a reasonable time has passed, and a majority vote has been cast a lynching will take place and night will begin.

This is a game of deception. You CAN reveal your role publicly (in fact that is the only way you should be revealing your role at all), however it may not always be strategically wise.

To keep the thread easier to read, at night please don't post too much in the thread. Night will end ASAP (basically whenever the imps and heroes have contacted me). Then day will begin, etc.

At the moment I'm thinking of having 4 Hellborne, 12 Legion, which would mean 1 Scout, 1 Jera, 1 Lego, 1 Witch, 8 Saplings on the Legion, and 1 Succub, 1 Madman, 2 Imps on the Hellborne.

Please type "I'm In" to enter this game. Once we have a good number of players (shooting for 16) I will work out the number of saplings/imps, and contact players on their roles. Any other questions regarding the game can be asked here. I should be online enough that the game doesn't get stuck for too long, but please try to be patient and check the thread once in a while to fulfill your roles if you are in.

Current players: 16/16
Pettypete
Danvari
`MileyCyrus`
RogerDodger1
Sidekick
ll4mma
_
Victo
Maliwan
chickenfoo
Kluckmuck
devilesk
uWPBobble
Scout4life
Kennedy
xSai

You know it's "Hellbourne" right?

Fearz
02-04-2010, 12:25 PM
and you needed to quote the ENTIRE post for that right?

Sineplol
02-04-2010, 01:05 PM
How can you be that stupid? You can read "Hellbourne" at least 25 times in a single game. The sheer stupidity of this made me wanna quote the whole thing, yeah.

02-04-2010, 01:06 PM
How can you be that stupid? You can read "Hellbourne" at least 25 times in a single game. The sheer stupidity of this made me wanna quote the whole thing, yeah.

Are you justifying being a dumbass?

Debeli
02-04-2010, 01:29 PM
How can you be that stupid? You can read "Hellbourne" at least 25 times in a single game. The sheer stupidity of this made me wanna quote the whole thing, yeah.

http://marcvz.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/grammar-nazi.jpg

LolMaliken
02-04-2010, 02:18 PM
maybe he's not a communist and is spelling it the correct way? HM?!

and ill sit one out. 2 in a row and the last one left a bad taste in my mouth

Maliwan
02-04-2010, 02:52 PM
sigh the Op is sure lazy

Pettypete
02-04-2010, 05:50 PM
sigh the Op is sure lazy

Nice failure to read the whole thread. Already a sign of a fail player.

Meem
02-04-2010, 06:13 PM
The reason it hasn't progressed to Day 1 yet is because certain people with special roles have not yet PM'ed me.

Danvari
02-04-2010, 06:22 PM
The reason it hasn't progressed to Day 1 yet is because certain people with special roles have not yet PM'ed me.

It's pretty easy to track them now :/

Sineplol
02-04-2010, 06:23 PM
The reason it hasn't progressed to Day 1 yet is because certain people with special roles have not yet PM'ed me.
Yo maybe change all these "hellborne" brah?

Sai
02-04-2010, 06:25 PM
Yo maybe change all these "hellborne" brah?


Why do you care? You're not even in.

Hash
02-04-2010, 06:27 PM
you need some quality control on participants

Fiesta
02-04-2010, 07:22 PM
Wow, why is this taking so long? There isn't even any strategy involved.

And I'd have to agree with Quality Control on participants.

RogerDodger
02-04-2010, 07:29 PM
No communists
No inactives
No ragers
No .gifs
No items
Fox only
Final Destination

Meem
02-05-2010, 12:00 AM
The village wakes up to find that _'s corpse in the middle of the town square. Upon careful examination of his face cover, outfit, dagger, and ornate bow, the most intelligent scientists are able to determine that he was indeed the Scout. A sad day for HoNVille #3, and a horrible start for the Legion.

_ (Scout) has been eaten.

It is now Day 1.

Player list (15):
Pettypete
Danvari
`MileyCyrus`
RogerDodger1
Sidekick
ll4mma
Victo
_
Maliwan
chickenfoo
Kluckmuck
devilesk
uWPBobble
Scout4life
Kennedy
xSaiThe village gathers to decide who might be a Hellborne. 8 votes is a lynch.

Bobble
02-05-2010, 12:07 AM
oh great. This game is really starting out great. Scout's already dead. At lest we can't mistakenly assume he is an imp, right?

rss
02-05-2010, 12:17 AM
holy ****, that is bad luck for you all FIRST NIGHT AND SCOUT IS GONE LOL

HAHAHAHA

funny

LolMaliken
02-05-2010, 12:18 AM
i lold, alot actually

Maliwan
02-05-2010, 12:59 AM
hmmm...if they don't kill scout4life next, im going to assume hes hellborne...

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 01:07 AM
ok, this has happened twice now.

Some people may think theyre 'conicidences' but honestly I think _ was stupid enough to tell one of his friends (Who is probably an imp) that he was scout. So basically we're gonna have to figure out who _'s friend(s) are :confused:

noodle0117
02-05-2010, 02:23 AM
aww i was too late...
oh well, hope the game turns out well this time.

ShadowExile
02-05-2010, 02:48 AM
Man, two times we've lost the Scout INSTANTLY. That's insanely stupid. Coincidences don't just happen like that. With a Witch Slayer, Legionnaire and a Jeraziah we have the same situation as last game; we have no means of obtaining intel! The hellbourne naturally know exactly who we are, because they CAN chat outside of the game, they know exactly who each other are and then when they get our Scout they can pretend to be the Sapling and we lynch ourselves. Again.

Sorry, but if Scout is dead and we have exactly the same heroes (that I didn't like having in the last game), then we are screwed. I predict the game will be over in just 3 or 4 more nights. Take me off the recall list. I wanted to at least have a balance discussion and/or completely different heroes every game, for variety, interest, and of course different situations. Now we can only use flawed logic to ascertain who in this game is a Hellbourne player or is not... Which is what happened last game, and we could not even get one Hellbourne player dead. Sorry, please take me off the replacement list. I do not want to play while the game remains this way. Having only 1 hero be able to ascertain who is who, and the other ones more centered on killing (Legionnaire has two votes; so you need an intelligent player and a means of obtaining the information. Witch Slayer also has to be intelligent to know who a Hellbourne player is, with the help of Scout surreptitiously raising attention to someone they reckon have been posting suspiciously, and instead of lynching them Witch Slayer shoots them, then the Legion use their double voting and team to lynch another Hellbourne).

Anyway, bad hero skills I believe, and of course without having a Scout we can't do anything, so I don't even want to be on the replacement list. In my opinion, and I'm sorry to say it, this is already good game.

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 03:07 AM
Fsck I hate scouts.

They ruin everything.

SideKick1
02-05-2010, 04:04 AM
Vote Victo

Danvari
02-05-2010, 07:41 AM
The village wakes up to find that _'s corpse in the middle of the town square. Upon careful examination of his face cover, outfit, dagger, and ornate bow, the most intelligent scientists are able to determine that he was indeed the Scout. A sad day for HoNVille #3, and a horrible start for the Legion.


I thought he used crossbow.

There's no one we can suspect for now so I would like to hear other people.


The reason it hasn't progressed to Day 1 yet is because certain people with special roles have not yet PM'ed me.

Thanks to this I figured out that _ and Kennedy have special roles. I guess I was right with _ and thus I blame you Spastic. I'm not sure about Kennedy, but he has 1/2 chance of being an imp.

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 08:18 AM
How do you track that exactly?

02-05-2010, 10:54 AM
Vote Maliwan


Look at his post in the 3rd page.

No one sensible would just call someone out. Hellbourne players usually keep silent or speak in very few sentences because, well, they are lazy! Think about it, when you have 2 votes to do in 2 phases you aren't going to bother with all the paranoid saplings and risk being called an imp.

This is why I am voting Maliwan. Huge assumptions and no wall of text to back it up.

Besides, he sounds like a little kid who thinks he knows how to manipulate.

Sai
02-05-2010, 11:23 AM
Vote Maliwan


what that guy above me said

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:30 AM
I dunno if it's worth being skeptical with scout already dead, I suppos it'll just be like last game picking people out at random. :confused:

MileyCyrus
02-05-2010, 11:57 AM
I think Sai agreed with scout way too fast...they're up to something if you ask me...Also, scouts post seemed rather sketchy and he himself made a fairly short post after saying hellbourne tend to make short posts...

Vote Scout4life

02-05-2010, 12:03 PM
I think Sai agreed with scout way too fast...they're up to something if you ask me...Also, scouts post seemed rather sketchy and he himself made a fairly short post after saying hellbourne tend to make short posts...

Vote Scout4life

Worst reasoning since Mormons trying to disprove Philosophers of Old.

You'd rather vote me out then some little kid who says"SCOUT4LIFE IZ HELBORN"

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 12:08 PM
Both your arguments are as invalid as each others'.

Without a scout its just a stab in the dark every time.

Victo
02-05-2010, 12:50 PM
Without a scout it's really going to be tricky...

Vote Scout4life

Quite random, but you're really jumpy at every accusation you get...

02-05-2010, 01:08 PM
Without a scout it's really going to be tricky...

Vote Scout4life

Quite random, but you're really jumpy at every accusation you get...


Of course I am "jumpy", I don't have any Imps I can just go and talk to because I am a stupid little boring sapling! Id get eliminated because people don't understand basic thought processing.

I don't have a succubus i can tell to remove a vote from someone and to eat another person thats against me!

You know, if I die, I lose all hope for everything in the universe. I honestly am not an IMP because if I WAS AN IMP ID JUST REMAIN SILENT, POINT FINGERS, AND EAT THE ONES WHO ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

Oh Jeraziah, please PUT PROTECTIVE CHARM ON ME! I am so ****ed by Imps and you dumbasses.


EDIT: On another note, why is it even benefical to try to talk in this game? If you remain silent you can pretend you are AFK or forgot about this game while you were lurking this thread. Honestly the best method is to just stay silent, when someone askes for you, wait a few hours then say SORRY lol wasnt watching this thread forgot xP.

SIGH, It sucks being eliminated first (in regards to the Scout, he got gayed)

devilesk
02-05-2010, 02:04 PM
I vote Scout4life just because he's a troll.

Also, the Staredit.net forums play this type of mafia game a lot with a similar set up. However, they also put hidden clues in the posts which would point to who the actual scum are. This added the aspect of finding clues and analyzing them.

02-05-2010, 02:11 PM
Definately am not going to play the next games. Good luck trying to have fun with this.

Domianted by people who talk a lot and try to be leader and when they vote everyone votes with them, the silent ones who are actually it and the dumbasses like the one I voted who ARE SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE EVIL.

Sneaky_NEDM
02-05-2010, 02:13 PM
I'm sorry to but in like this but... U mad?

SideKick1
02-05-2010, 02:38 PM
I think Sai agreed with scout way too fast...they're up to something if you ask me...Also, scouts post seemed rather sketchy and he himself made a fairly short post after saying hellbourne tend to make short posts...

Vote Scout4life
or maybe hes on the right track and you want to throw him off your hellbourne buddy

KARTlK
02-05-2010, 03:08 PM
ok, this has happened twice now.

Some people may think theyre 'conicidences' but honestly I think _ was stupid enough to tell one of his friends (Who is probably an imp) that he was scout. So basically we're gonna have to figure out who _'s friend(s) are :confused:

Yeah, No. Almost everyone in this game is my "friend" as much as any of you know anyway. Good luck on that assumption, I suppose.


Definately am not going to play the next games. Good luck trying to have fun with this.

Domianted by people who talk a lot and try to be leader and when they vote everyone votes with them, the silent ones who are actually it and the dumbasses like the one I voted who ARE SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE EVIL.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:



_ dies

wat. Thanks for making me scout and seeing if the Legion could get a better try this time, Spastic :( (I know you did don't lie :p)

It's silly that I got voted off first. I wonder if it was someone who knows how good I ammmmmmmmmmm *hint hint hint hint hint hint*

Doccool
02-05-2010, 03:14 PM
FU! I said i was gonna be in D: ! I'll be replacement plox!

rss
02-05-2010, 03:15 PM
Sneaky u sneaky bastard

Pettypete
02-05-2010, 04:41 PM
Vote Maliwan


Look at his post in the 3rd page.

No one sensible would just call someone out. Hellbourne players usually keep silent or speak in very few sentences because, well, they are lazy! Think about it, when you have 2 votes to do in 2 phases you aren't going to bother with all the paranoid saplings and risk being called an imp.

This is why I am voting Maliwan. Huge assumptions and no wall of text to back it up.

Besides, he sounds like a little kid who thinks he knows how to manipulate.

what post are you referring to.. i can only see the post of him saying the OP is lazy.

Danvari
02-05-2010, 05:40 PM
We need to lynch someone first day that's for sure. I doublevote Scout4life

Maliwan
02-05-2010, 05:44 PM
i don't think scout for life should be kicked..vote someone like victo, because i know scout4lyfe is inocent

Maliwan
02-05-2010, 05:45 PM
for now

Maliwan
02-05-2010, 05:57 PM
No, vote xSai, because he followed a banwagon of someones vote just to fit in..

Maliwan
02-05-2010, 06:02 PM
i never said you were helbourne; if you live the next round, maybe you have the potential to be a hellbourne because apparently, helbourne has a hatred for scouts

Meem
02-05-2010, 06:09 PM
Current votes:

Victo - Scout4life (5)
devilesk - Scout4life
Danvari - Scout4life
Danvari - Scout4life
uWPBobble - Scout4life
Scout4life - Maliwan (2)
xSai - Maliwan
Sidekick - Victo (1)

Also _ I didn't make you scout on purpose, although it may seem I did. All roles are always generated randomly!

Danvari
02-05-2010, 06:13 PM
****ing moron. Look at the little kid triple posting and taking back his statement because I found out he was evil.

****ING MORONS.


Offically, hate every single person on this forum. Unintelligent mouth breathers who I can safely assume would gladly be ***** whipped in a relationship.

This is how you're going to protect yourself?

Bobble
02-05-2010, 06:45 PM
****ing moron. Look at the little kid triple posting and taking back his statement because I found out he was evil.

****ING MORONS.


Offically, hate every single person on this forum. Unintelligent mouth breathers who I can safely assume would gladly be ***** whipped in a relationship.

You're evil. Even if you are a sapling, I don't want you ruining the game.

vote: Scout4life

Maliwan
02-05-2010, 06:58 PM
I'm sorry scout; i didn't want this to happen but you provoked people to have you killed. Maybe learn a sense of control next time ?_?

Pettypete
02-05-2010, 07:13 PM
Chances are scout4life is a sapling.. theres a 11/15 chance aka 73.3333% that we'll vote off a sapling since we pretty much have no information yet. I really don't know how we're going to win this without scout.. this might just be a repeat of last game, since it's so difficult to get any information without scout.

Elarrion
02-05-2010, 07:28 PM
I'm sorry scout; i didn't want this to happen but you provoked people to have you killed. Maybe learn a sense of control next time ?_?

How the hell did he provoke anything? He didn't write during the night! Are you reading the posts?

MileyCyrus
02-05-2010, 09:04 PM
I hereby retract my vote on scout4life. As much as the name suggests it, I no longer think he is hellbourne. His defense seemed genuine enough for me, especially considering my original accusation was pretty vague as it is.

From looking at the previous games, once somebody gets 3 or 4 votes, it is usually good rittance and I sincerely hope this is not the case this time. It would be stupid to senselessly vote off a smart player who will contribute to the team.

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 09:34 PM
Vote for: Sidekick

Reasoning being that I really don't think Scout4Lyfe is a Helbourne, and I think Sidekick was too quick to just randomly vote for someone. (For my liking, I would expect everyone to be pretty neutral at the start)

I'd also really think people should reconsider lynching Scout since he seems innocent to me. (Even if it's through QQing like a girl)

MileyCyrus
02-05-2010, 10:05 PM
I'd also really think people should reconsider lynching Scout since he seems innocent to me. (Even if it's through QQing like a girl)

Quoted for Truth.

He seemed genuinely upset that the accusation was screwing over the legion.

Sometimes its an interesting strategy just to call someone out to see how everybody ELSE reacts to that. I strongly urge people to change their votes and NOT lynch scout4life

Scout I apologize for accusing you earlier, just trying to stir this game up...not actually hoping you'd get booted super fast.

Pettypete
02-05-2010, 10:06 PM
Vote for: Sidekick

Reasoning being that I really don't think Scout4Lyfe is a Helbourne, and I think Sidekick was too quick to just randomly vote for someone. (For my liking, I would expect everyone to be pretty neutral at the start)

I'd also really think people should reconsider lynching Scout since he seems innocent to me. (Even if it's through QQing like a girl)

The thing is... any accusation on day 1 is either:

a) random accusation
b) accusation for random accusation

so unless there's a random accusation, there can be no accusation... it's all obviously a random accusation since we have ZERO proof or info about the imps... therefore I don't think accusing based on a random accusation is very smart. Also, imps won't throw random accusations on the table knowing that people are prone to accuse those who random accuse, even though that accusation itself is quite random. They'll just stand back and watch the chaos commence.

I say, take a shot in the dark, and be done with day 1. If we land on an imp, awesome, but 73.333% chance we will land on a sapling. Let's just eliminate someone who's been relatively silent or seems afk, since they won't be of much use anyway. As far as I can tell, Kennedy, kluckmuck and chickenfoo have not participated since night has ended, so I'm gonna randomly pick someone from that pile.

vote: Kennedy

KARTlK
02-05-2010, 10:23 PM
Current votes:

Victo - Scout4life (5)
devilesk - Scout4life
Danvari - Scout4life
Danvari - Scout4life
uWPBobble - Scout4life
Scout4life - Maliwan (2)
xSai - Maliwan
Sidekick - Victo (1)

Also _ I didn't make you scout on purpose, although it may seem I did. All roles are always generated randomly!
:p I know I'm just kidding.

I thought he used crossbow.

There's no one we can suspect for now so I would like to hear other people.



Thanks to this I figured out that _ and Kennedy have special roles. I guess I was right with _ and thus I blame you Spastic. I'm not sure about Kennedy, but he has 1/2 chance of being an imp.
Spastic wasn't waiting for me, since I was dead. I never even ended up sending him the person to track, and he went ahead with Day 1 since it didn't matter.


Anyway, I'm 100% certain of one imp/MM, and about 40% sure of a another imp. So obvious guise.

MileyCyrus
02-05-2010, 10:35 PM
Anyway, I'm 100% certain of one imp/MM, and about 40% sure of a another imp. So obvious guise.

Penny for your thoughts? ;)

But seriously...how can you be so certain so early? :confused::confused:

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:08 PM
Im withdrawing my vote on Sidekick for now.

Kennedy is supposedly a special class hero (accorrding to Legio), so it could be beneficial for us to eliminate him either way, since a Witch Slayer isn't exactly useful without a scout, and then its a 3:1 chance to not get a bad lynch.

Otherwise, Maliwan is a tad sus, but really in the end it's just a stab in the dark.

devilesk
02-05-2010, 11:11 PM
Long detailed or persuasive posts usually mean Legion. Short formed "agreements" are usually Hellbourne.
I disagree with this. For example, you make long detailed posts all the time simply because you're a troll.

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:13 PM
Vote: Kennedy

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:23 PM
Don't kid yourself, anyone who names themselves Scout4Life is trying to troll someone.

Only reason I haven't voted for you is because I genuinely think you're a sapling, even if you are extremely hotheaded.

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:29 PM
...What does that have to do with this game?

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:34 PM
Anyway, I think we should vote for Kennedy because he's supposedly a hero, and unless it's Jeraziah we're probably better off without him.

MileyCyrus
02-05-2010, 11:42 PM
Im withdrawing my vote on Sidekick for now.

Kennedy is supposedly a special class hero (accorrding to Legio), so it could be beneficial for us to eliminate him either way, since a Witch Slayer isn't exactly useful without a scout, and then its a 3:1 chance to not get a bad lynch.

Otherwise, Maliwan is a tad sus, but really in the end it's just a stab in the dark.


Wait, what information did legionnaire have that made him (and you) believe that kennedy is a special class hero? what did i miss?

edit: ahhhhh nvm, I found it. I mean...that is certainly more to go off than a random accusation, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that its a sure thing that Kennedy is a special hero.

Holding my judgement...Kennedy have anything to say?

RogerDodger
02-05-2010, 11:44 PM
Thanks to this I figured out that _ and Kennedy have special roles. I guess I was right with _ and thus I blame you Spastic. I'm not sure about Kennedy, but he has 1/2 chance of being an imp.
A 1/2 chance is better than a 4/15 chance.

Fiesta
02-06-2010, 12:05 AM
Wow, **** that. I had a page and a half typed up, then I refeshed. Christmas.

Basically, without re-typing it all, the gist was that we should find people who have similar voting habits without reason, the lemmings, if you will, to catch our hellbourne. Or, the very flipside, the Imps are those creating popular opinion, filling our heads with lies and propaganda. Either way, I fell the best solution is to look for posting irregularities (In-activeness, Two-Sided Statements, How they React under pressure, ect)

Now to whip up a post on suspicions and 'wtf' votes. Stay tuned.

Fiesta
02-06-2010, 12:17 AM
Suspicions:

Kennedy - Having a night role screams something, I'm not quite sure if he's witch, and if he is, could be a liability, or he's hellbourne. But having an action at night isn't enough to lynch over. Although, he is being extremely quite over there, so I don't know.

Scout4Life - His reactions to being grilled seemed a bit... off. He seemed as if he was very panicked, and needed to shove blame somewhere else, and I find this very suspicious, So I'm going to go over his posts again, and look deeper into that.

Maliwan - I'm not quite sure what got you guys on his tail, but if It's something I missed, let me know.

Sidekick - I feel as if Sidekick's vote was 'forced'. Somewhat of a "Lets try to BS someone and hope for the best!" Unless there is some reasoning behind it, then I'm perfectly open to that.

So, that's my perspective of the game, and each day I will post a post not unlike this one, gathering my suspicions and ideas, because, honestly, we need someone to put all of this on one place, as opposed to sprawled over 6 pages.

My opinions are far from absolute, and I may have missed some things, so please, feel free to argue, revise, or whatever I've posted in the thread. I'm thinking based off the people on the list, we can try a lynch soon, because without a scout, one person is just as good as the next.

- Llama

Sai
02-06-2010, 12:34 AM
this is more entertaining than soap operas

Bobble
02-06-2010, 12:35 AM
The only blame I put was on someone with logical backing to it BEFORE everyone started to gang rape me.

The best part is, you started it all. When people in this game insult everyone on their opinions, they get booted pretty early. I mean, look at it this way. We don't know who's who, and even though you know exactly who you are, we can still think you're an imp. If you want to defend yourself, defend with solid reasoning, don't just yell and cry about being accused. Suck it up, and quit the QQing. I retract my vote. It doesn't look like you'll die today.

Vote: Kennedy

Maliwan
02-06-2010, 01:17 AM
I decided to take my vote out, and vote on Kennedy instead on the grounds of many of these posters don't seem to be hellbourne..so i guess kennedy is a good start

Kluckmuck
02-06-2010, 05:09 AM
Sorry for being so afk.
I vote Kennedy

Danvari
02-06-2010, 06:07 AM
:p I know I'm just kidding.

Spastic wasn't waiting for me, since I was dead. I never even ended up sending him the person to track, and he went ahead with Day 1 since it didn't matter.


Anyway, I'm 100% certain of one imp/MM, and about 40% sure of a another imp. So obvious guise.

That's not what I ment.

I retract my vote and doublevote Kennedy.

Kennedy may be jera, witch, madman or succubus. I'm not sure if he has a special role, but I was right with _ so I'm guessing he has a special role.

RogerDodger
02-06-2010, 07:10 AM
I think I counted 7 votes for Kennedy.

He probably should make some sort of defense for himself before he gets lynched.

SideKick1
02-06-2010, 07:19 AM
/facedesk

VWoolfShirt
02-06-2010, 07:19 AM
deskpalm

RogerDodger
02-06-2010, 07:22 AM
I just deskpalmed

...

ShadowExile
02-06-2010, 07:34 AM
I believe that since gaining the experience of last game, I know who two of the Hellbourne are. I can't say though because I am not in the game. Best of luck, but I feel that a repeat of last game is going to occur.

KARTlK
02-06-2010, 01:54 PM
Penny for your thoughts? ;)

But seriously...how can you be so certain so early? :confused::confused:

Every game, the newbs react the exact same way if they're Legion or Hellbourne. Now that we have three games played, you can see how the elite act too. But the elite players like to do a lot of confusing things :p

LolMaliken
02-06-2010, 02:27 PM
Every game, the newbs react the exact same way if they're Legion or Hellbourne. Now that we have three games played, you can see how the elite act too. But the elite players like to do a lot of confusing things :p
could i be jumbled in there? even as a lie to make my ego go up?

DrDaBomB
02-06-2010, 02:33 PM
Unlucky _, I guess the hellbourne realised you were too great a threat just to be a Legion Player. The fact that you were scout was just icing on the cake, I reckon.

Anyways, good luck guys. Legion, you still have a chance to win. ^^

Kennedy
02-06-2010, 02:56 PM
I've been afk o.O

I definitely don't have a night role; I haven't participated in this thread since I signed up for it. I'm a lowly sapling.

I vote Sidekick because I don't want to die.

Fiesta
02-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Alright, if you guys think this is right, I'll humor you guys. Whatshis face was right about _ having a night role, so let's go with his hunch and pray it's not Jereziah.

Vote: Kennedy

Danvari
02-06-2010, 03:33 PM
I retract my vote. It's pretty confusing for now and I guess I was too hasty with voting. I think we should wait till page 10 until everybody posts so we can find something out unlike blindly voting. I said I'm not sure about Kennedy, but it's too soon I guess.

Meem
02-06-2010, 07:41 PM
Current votes:

Pettypete - Kennedy (5)
RogerDodger - Kennedy
uWPBobble - Kennedy
Kluckmuck - Kennedy
ll4mma - Kennedy
Scout4life - Maliwan (2)
xSai - Maliwan
Victo - Scout4life (2)
devilesk - Scout4life
Sidekick - Victo (1)
Kennedy - Sidekick (1)

Did I get everyone?

Pettypete
02-06-2010, 07:47 PM
Sorry for being so afk.
I vote Kennedy

reason?

Short response with the same vote as the last two that posted prior to him with only defense and no input into the game; makes me suspicious... Also, we've had 3 people now getting on the boat to kill Kennedy pretty hastily. Are people trying to just get the first lynch going or are we seeing something here?

Danvari
02-06-2010, 08:39 PM
Guys why can't we just vote off Spastic? We can live with imps in peace if the story won't continue.

RogerDodger
02-06-2010, 09:21 PM
Im gonna leave my vote on Kennedy since the likelyhood of him having a nightrole simply gives us the best chance at lynching an imp.

Kluckmuck
02-07-2010, 03:51 AM
I voted Kennedy becouse i think there's a big chance of him having a night role, and it's the best lead we got atm.

Evil_Coral
02-07-2010, 04:31 AM
Can I still play?

Since I suck at real HoN =/

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 04:49 AM
I think that after 3 real days the game day should just end.

Otherwise it could take forever for the game to move on and with no intel it's kinda pointless waiting.

Sai
02-07-2010, 10:37 AM
People don't understand that it's just guessing so they sit here and think about it for 12 years. :\

Danvari
02-07-2010, 12:47 PM
That depends on situation. At the beginning imps may push others to vote on saplings. If they know that somebody like Kennedy doesn't have a night role they will vote on him while pushing other people to vote on him.

SideKick1
02-07-2010, 01:53 PM
Can't Spastic just nominate another Scout so we have some dynamic gameplay going on?
that would defeat the purpose

Kluckmuck
02-07-2010, 02:00 PM
Yea, but we only got 7 votes on Kennedy right? We can't really be sure if a imp actually voted for Kennedy.

Danvari
02-07-2010, 04:27 PM
Yea, but we only got 7 votes on Kennedy right? We can't really be sure if a imp actually voted for Kennedy.

Look at those who are pushing telling that he has a night role and who voted on him, read their posts.

Kluckmuck
02-07-2010, 04:50 PM
You were the one saying he had a night role first?
But okay, i get who you are talkign about. Most of them seem eager to lynch someone when they had the opportunity. But so did you, which make's it kinda weird.
What made you dont believe he dont have a night role / is jera? Becouse the same people jumped on pretty quickly again?

Danvari
02-07-2010, 04:55 PM
You were the one saying he had a night role first?
But okay, i get who you are talkign about. Most of them seem eager to lynch someone when they had the opportunity. But so did you, which make's it kinda weird.
What made you dont believe he dont have a night role / is jera? Becouse the same people jumped on pretty quickly again?

I wasn't really sure, so I took my vote off. Only hellbourne knows if he has night role or if he doesn't. That's what makes them vote fast. And fyi I'm legionnaire so I can't be the bad one.

Kluckmuck
02-07-2010, 05:01 PM
I know you are :p So if you trust yourself, say who to lynch and i'm in.

Kennedy
02-07-2010, 05:14 PM
It seems like a lot of people are scapegoating me pretty quickly, most likely because I was afk and they figured I wouldn't be around to defend myself.

Scout4Life seems innocent to me, given how indignant he's acting.

Danvari, you made a mistake if you said I was a special class hero. Check again.

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02-07-2010, 05:44 PM
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Danvari
02-07-2010, 05:44 PM
It seems like a lot of people are scapegoating me pretty quickly, most likely because I was afk and they figured I wouldn't be around to defend myself.

Scout4Life seems innocent to me, given how indignant he's acting.

Danvari, you made a mistake if you said I was a special class hero. Check again.

I said I wasn't sure.

I doublevote RogerDodger1.

He kept pushing people to vote on Kennedy and he acts rather suspicious. If you will look at his posts you will see that he's pushing and he turned his vote from Sidekick to Kennedy. If he's an imp and he has to choose between Sidekick(Probably Normal Sapling) or Kennedy(Possiblity of him having special role), he would choose Kennedy. He just changed his prey.

Kluckmuck
02-07-2010, 05:46 PM
I vote RogerDodger1
Same reason

Kennedy
02-07-2010, 05:50 PM
That makes sense, Danvari. I retract my previous vote, and vote for RogerDodger1.

Good catch on noticing when he switched his vote for me, Dan.

Maliwan
02-07-2010, 06:48 PM
vote RodgerDoger1

Scoutforlife, i misinterpreted the game.


I thought the hellbourne killed a guy NAMED scout. and i was thinking, "oh, if scout4life isn't killed next round, there is a chance of him being hellbourne". I thought this because the hellbourne hates scouts, so i thought you'd be next. I don't understand why you think im so suspicious.

Bobble
02-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Fine. To get this game moving along, I retract my vote for Kennedy and I vote for RodgerDodger1.

Fiesta
02-07-2010, 07:04 PM
Sound reasoning, but I'm going to give RogerDodger1 a chance to defend himself, and I think you guys should too.

Maliwan
02-07-2010, 07:05 PM
I'm taking note that ll4mma refuses to not vote rodger.
Other than that, it seems that ALL the votes have shifted towards RodgerDodger. This can mean:

1) Rodger can possibly not be an imp after all. I wouldn't think imps would vote on eachother unless they have to.
2)Again, the sudden shift of the bandwagon, one of these people, if many, are in fact a hellbourne, and if this is true, we may have the wrong guy.

Danvari
02-07-2010, 07:08 PM
Sound reasoning, but I'm going to give RogerDodger1 a chance to defend himself, and I think you guys should too.

Actually I find you suspicious, because you protect him and agree with him. When I looked at your posts it seemed like you have been suspecting the same people as Roger did.


I'm taking note that ll4mma refuses to not vote rodger.

Exactly what I mean. He gives him a chance and that means he wants to help him out. I'm not 100% of course. l

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 07:24 PM
This is good for us, and my plan has worked very well.

Basically, for the sake of gaining some intelligence on the aggressiveness of the imps I have pushed for Kennedy to be lynched, and once I am lynched you can see I am a sapling and it will make clear who the organised voters are.

Last game it seemed that people got voted off quickly off of any slight accusation, this time when I have some sort of vague guidance to who to vote the vote didn't go through quick enough, since Kennedy is an imp and being defended as such.

I reckon I am still right about Kennedy and my vote still stands for him, if you lynch me today be sure to lynch him tomorrow once you see Im a sapling, the imps are clearly defending him.

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 07:26 PM
Also l4mma could be avoid the lynch on me to remove suspicion of him being an organised voter.

Either way things go I doubt I am gonna be here for long.

Maliwan
02-07-2010, 07:27 PM
That can't make any sense though, all of the same voters who voted kennedy out, voted Rodger out. This means that both of you cannot be possibly the hellbourne, and that the imps are nodding their heads, and following all the accusations. Rodger, i ask you what is your reasoning behind kennedy being an imp?
I hereby retract my vote from Rodgerdodger1

Danvari
02-07-2010, 07:32 PM
This is good for us, and my plan has worked very well.

Basically, for the sake of gaining some intelligence on the aggressiveness of the imps I have pushed for Kennedy to be lynched, and once I am lynched you can see I am a sapling and it will make clear who the organised voters are.

Last game it seemed that people got voted off quickly off of any slight accusation, this time when I have some sort of vague guidance to who to vote the vote didn't go through quick enough, since Kennedy is an imp and being defended as such.

I reckon I am still right about Kennedy and my vote still stands for him, if you lynch me today be sure to lynch him tomorrow once you see Im a sapling, the imps are clearly defending him.

That's almost the same thing Sneaky said in the last game and he ended being an imp. Don't worry we will make sure to lynch Kennedy if you will end up being a sapling.

Kennedy
02-07-2010, 07:33 PM
I hate to keep jumping the bandwagon, but I also retract my vote for rodgerdodger.

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 07:33 PM
Well if Im not lynched my word means nothing, so in death I can atleast make a message, it would be better if I was lynched now and you'd get the knowledge of who the real pushers are.

Also note, this wasn't my plan originally, I am just an impatient person by nature and wanted to shake things up a bit, and it seemed to work :D

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 07:35 PM
Now the imps (Kennedy and maybe Maliwan) are hastily off of voting for me??

Trying to avoid the eye of suspition once I am revealed a sapling.

Danvari
02-07-2010, 07:36 PM
That looks like a desperate strategy Roger. You just want to protect yourself from getting voted off. Your plan is to make others believe you're a sapling by telling them to lynch you. While you're pushing everybody on Kennedy again. If you're so MUCH for getting lynched vote for yourself.

Doubleposting, because the adrenaline starts to kick in? Even in a little forum games like this it can happen when being in dangerous situations.

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 07:38 PM
(Sorry for multiple posts, but not allowed to edit)

Last game the imps were playing smarter, lots of the imp (That I suspect) may be newer (Like I am, but being a sapling is easy).

If I don't get voted I'd like Witch Slayer to shoot me, for my death would speak more than any more crap I can type.

Kennedy
02-07-2010, 07:38 PM
I happen to know for a fact that I am not an Imp, but you guys have no reason to believe me obviously. I reject the notion that either you or I has to be Hellbourne, and I'm not sure where it came from.

Kennedy
02-07-2010, 07:39 PM
At HIS OWN REQUEST, I reimplement my vote for Roger

Danvari
02-07-2010, 07:39 PM
Good, we will see later what will come off from this.

Maliwan
02-07-2010, 07:48 PM
Everybody, i have the answer, lend me your eyes

Rodger: thats a bold move to accuse me of being an imp. I also believe now you are desperate to get us off our backs.

Reasoning:


Suspicions:

Kennedy - Having a night role screams something, I'm not quite sure if he's witch, and if he is, could be a liability, or he's hellbourne. But having an action at night isn't enough to lynch over. Although, he is being extremely quite over there, so I don't know.

Scout4Life - His reactions to being grilled seemed a bit... off. He seemed as if he was very panicked, and needed to shove blame somewhere else, and I find this very suspicious, So I'm going to go over his posts again, and look deeper into that.

Maliwan - I'm not quite sure what got you guys on his tail, but if It's something I missed, let me know.

Sidekick - I feel as if Sidekick's vote was 'forced'. Somewhat of a "Lets try to BS someone and hope for the best!" Unless there is some reasoning behind it, then I'm perfectly open to that.

So, that's my perspective of the game, and each day I will post a post not unlike this one, gathering my suspicions and ideas, because, honestly, we need someone to put all of this on one place, as opposed to sprawled over 6 pages.

My opinions are far from absolute, and I may have missed some things, so please, feel free to argue, revise, or whatever I've posted in the thread. I'm thinking based off the people on the list, we can try a lynch soon, because without a scout, one person is just as good as the next.

- Llama



Alright, if you guys think this is right, I'll humor you guys. Whatshis face was right about _ having a night role, so let's go with his hunch and pray it's not Jereziah.

Vote: Kennedy


Sound reasoning, but I'm going to give RogerDodger1 a chance to defend himself, and I think you guys should too.

Out of all ll4mma's posts, there is no relation to RodgerDodger1 until the very end; Rodgerdodger1 called him out possibly to try to reverse psychology us; trying not to link eachother together. If this is true, then maybe ll4mma and rodgerdodger1 could possibly be imps:

Also l4mma could be avoid the lynch on me to remove suspicion of him being an organised voter.

Either way things go I doubt I am gonna be here for long.

Note ll4mma's hastiness(in the second quote) "pray it's not jeraziah". He is not thinking twice, and normally, a sapling has to think twice about this.

If ll4mma is an imp then Rodgerdodger1 has to be one as well.

Edit:Also, i think that Xsai is possibly an imp; Look at his HoN post history: he has posted yesterday, and possibly the day before that; my point is that he has only post twice in this game. One of the posts was to follow the bandwagon of scout4life of lynching me.

Danvari
02-07-2010, 08:19 PM
Let's change the title of this game to "Sherlocks of Newerth"

Sai
02-07-2010, 09:06 PM
Everybody, i have the answer, lend me your eyes

Rodger: thats a bold move to accuse me of being an imp. I also believe now you are desperate to get us off our backs.

Reasoning:








Out of all ll4mma's posts, there is no relation to RodgerDodger1 until the very end; Rodgerdodger1 called him out possibly to try to reverse psychology us; trying not to link eachother together. If this is true, then maybe ll4mma and rodgerdodger1 could possibly be imps:


Note ll4mma's hastiness(in the second quote) "pray it's not jeraziah". He is not thinking twice, and normally, a sapling has to think twice about this.

If ll4mma is an imp then Rodgerdodger1 has to be one as well.

Edit:Also, i think that Xsai is possibly an imp; Look at his HoN post history: he has posted yesterday, and possibly the day before that; my point is that he has only post twice in this game. One of the posts was to follow the bandwagon of scout4life of lynching me.


my first time playing, i'm waiting for this game to get along. :] I've not studied any of the previous games, I'm just going off this one and seeing how people play. That said, I'm not hellbourne.

Fiesta
02-07-2010, 09:33 PM
Defense time!

Alright, so I'm going address Maliwan's post, point by point.

1: My initial Suspicion list was created before RogerDodger was anyone of interest. He was a nobody when i made that post, hence no suspicions.

2: I had no hastiness, actually. From the data gathered, I found Kennedy being the most probable of being an Imp. Having an action at night means that he has a special role. let's do some math.

Witch Slayer
Jereziah
Madman
Imp 1
Imp 2
Succubus

Those are all the heroes with a role in the night. 4 of them are Hellbourne. Two are Legion. Therefore, we have 6 roles at night. Now, you're going to tell me that it doesn't make sense to lean on the side of statistics and say that we have a 2/3 Chance to lynch a Hellbourne, and a 1/3 chance to lynch a Legion. I'm sorry, but my vote goes to the numbers. Additionally, at the time, we didn't have much else to work with. This is closest thing to actual proof.

I never said straight out that I was not going to be voting for RogerDodger. And If I did say that, please, link me. I said that I want to hear his defense before we get all bandwagon crazy and lynch a sapling. Letting the accused tell their story is important, as they could have some pivotal information that could get us onto the scent of a Hellbourne, not a sapling.

I look at this going a few ways.

We lynch Kennedy, he ends up being a Hellbourne, we just got closer to winning, and we can get those who sided with him to explain just why.

We lynch Kennedy, he ends up being a Legion, we see who the organised voters are.

We lynch Roger, he ends up being Hellbourne, you lynch me, because "I'm in cahoots with him." All that's left is 2 hellbourne.

We lynch Roger, he ends up being Legion, all fingers get pointed to Kennedy.

I feel as if one of the two are imps, although I could be wrong. With that reasoning, we can figure out who are the voters who blindly follow each other without any insight or anything. If we come up blank, well, we might be able to mine some more data from the thread to see any irregularities.

-Llama

VWoolfShirt
02-07-2010, 10:00 PM
check llama's flowerpot for gay porn

Fiesta
02-07-2010, 10:04 PM
check llama's flowerpot for gay porn
shhhhhh

Kennedy
02-07-2010, 10:28 PM
I do not have a role at night. I don't know how you guys came up with that, but its not true. I am a sapling.

VWoolfShirt
02-07-2010, 10:29 PM
thats an odd way of stating that you have no girlfriend

MileyCyrus
02-07-2010, 10:42 PM
thats an odd way of stating that you have no girlfriend

ZING

VWoolfShirt
02-07-2010, 11:07 PM
who is this woger

Danvari
02-07-2010, 11:28 PM
who is this woger

A troll appears.

Sneaky_NEDM
02-07-2010, 11:49 PM
A troll appears.
use earthquake!... it works on Haiti

RogerDodger
02-07-2010, 11:54 PM
Go away Sneaky

VWoolfShirt
02-08-2010, 12:04 AM
hes a wobber

and a wapist

and a pick pocket

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 01:16 AM
Nobody wants their blood on this saplings corpse?

Kluckmuck
02-08-2010, 01:36 AM
Come on guys, he's begging to be lynched.

Lamer883
02-08-2010, 01:38 AM
reverse psychology

reverse reverse psychology

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 02:11 AM
Defense time!

Alright, so I'm going address Maliwan's post, point by point.

1: My initial Suspicion list was created before RogerDodger was anyone of interest. He was a nobody when i made that post, hence no suspicions.

2: I had no hastiness, actually. From the data gathered, I found Kennedy being the most probable of being an Imp. Having an action at night means that he has a special role. let's do some math.

Witch Slayer
Jereziah
Madman
Imp 1
Imp 2
Succubus

Those are all the heroes with a role in the night. 4 of them are Hellbourne. Two are Legion. Therefore, we have 6 roles at night. Now, you're going to tell me that it doesn't make sense to lean on the side of statistics and say that we have a 2/3 Chance to lynch a Hellbourne, and a 1/3 chance to lynch a Legion. I'm sorry, but my vote goes to the numbers. Additionally, at the time, we didn't have much else to work with. This is closest thing to actual proof.

I never said straight out that I was not going to be voting for RogerDodger. And If I did say that, please, link me. I said that I want to hear his defense before we get all bandwagon crazy and lynch a sapling. Letting the accused tell their story is important, as they could have some pivotal information that could get us onto the scent of a Hellbourne, not a sapling.

I look at this going a few ways.

We lynch Kennedy, he ends up being a Hellbourne, we just got closer to winning, and we can get those who sided with him to explain just why.

We lynch Kennedy, he ends up being a Legion, we see who the organised voters are.

We lynch Roger, he ends up being Hellbourne, you lynch me, because "I'm in cahoots with him." All that's left is 2 hellbourne.

We lynch Roger, he ends up being Legion, all fingers get pointed to Kennedy.

I feel as if one of the two are imps, although I could be wrong. With that reasoning, we can figure out who are the voters who blindly follow each other without any insight or anything. If we come up blank, well, we might be able to mine some more data from the thread to see any irregularities.

-Llama

I don't understand; that whole statement is invalid because of the assumption that kennedy has a night role;

I said I wasn't sure.
Can you give me some solid evidence that kennedy does in fact have a night role?
As for your first argument, i'll clear it.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 02:38 AM
I vote for RogerDodger1.

My vote for Maliwan (my main suspect) is not going to go through anytime soon. Regardless of how suspicious I see him as. The Legionnaire made a very good point and I am inclined to follow his view on the matter.


****ing moron. Look at the little kid triple posting and taking back his statement because I found out he was evil.

****ING MORONS.


Offically, hate every single person on this forum. Unintelligent mouth breathers who I can safely assume would gladly be ***** whipped in a relationship.
Hypocrisy shows here

Kluckmuck is also suspicious since he contributes very little yet makes blanket statements / votes.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 02:48 AM
sigh...everyone is suspicious of everyone...

at this rate we will never lynch someone.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 02:48 AM
Thats why I wanted the timer :confused:

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 03:03 AM
I think i have more clues to finding out the imp(s) more to come soon

rss
02-08-2010, 03:06 AM
I think i have more clues to finding out the imp(s) more to come soon


In other words: I'm an imp, but I don't want to be lynched, so I'm gonna say I think I know who the imps are, so they don't lynch me, and I survive another day.

POICE

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 03:12 AM
I'm not an imp; why would i take this time to look back and forth at the posts by this game to figure this **** out? i retracted my votes because i want a good start on finding an imp.

rss
02-08-2010, 03:15 AM
I'm not an imp; why would i take this time to look back and forth at the posts by this game to figure this **** out? i retracted my votes because i want a good start on finding an imp.

In other words: Oh shi- I've been found out by someone that isn't even playing this game. Quick Maliwan, get defensive!

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 03:19 AM
get out of here! you aren't even in this game! I've stated my reason, now go troll someone else's game?

rss
02-08-2010, 03:22 AM
get out of here! you aren't even in this game! I've stated my reason, now go troll someone else's game?

Okay, I won't ruin your game anymore. have fun!

In Other words: I want this guy to go away before everyone lynches me and finds out I'm Hellbourne!

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 03:33 AM
I've been trying to think of different night roles that people could have... and so far I think I like these two the best

Keeper of the forest


Natures Protection


Applies natures protection to target for one turn, if target is selected for an action by another hero (Madman, succubus, scout). The person who performed the action is revealed.

or

2. Tree Sight

The keeper reveals himself to a target, and both players become aware of each others roles (Cooldown 2 days).

He should replace Witch Slayer imo.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 03:34 AM
Btw this is just random brainstorming for next game, unrelated to this one :smile:

rss
02-08-2010, 03:46 AM
Or,

Root
Grounds everyone to one spot while KotF Proceeds to mercilessly rape everyone.

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 03:47 AM
thats an odd way of stating that you have no girlfriend


I don't, but my ex is actually asleep in my bed right now.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 03:48 AM
I like tree sight cause it sorta feels like scout, except it's a double edged sword.

If he finds an imp they know who he is.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 04:21 AM
Well ive checked the voting historys between kennedy, roger and scout...this is what i have found:

people who voted for both kennedy and roger:
ME, Kluck, uWPbobble
People who voted kennedy, not roger
devil, pete ll4ma, Roger
people who voted Roger, not kennedy
Scout, Kennedy
people who voted scout4life:
Devilisk, Victo

People who have not voted at all:
Chicken foo

People who voted neither kennedy nor Roger:
Miley, Sidekick, Victo, Chikenfoo, Devilesk, Xsai,

This is just data. But i can make a conjecture about possibly one thing:
Assuming that either Kennedy or Roger is an IMP..Maliwan, Kluck, and uWPboble voted both of them. This could possibly mean that neither of us are hellbourne(this is basing that hellbourne doesnt lynch other hellbourne players).
I did not include danvari because he is not a suspect.
If anyone has anything to say about this information please say so, but i highly doubt this proves anything
goodnight

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:35 AM
Roger not RoDger

Bobble
02-08-2010, 04:39 AM
Or,

Root
Grounds everyone to one spot while KotF Proceeds to mercilessly rape everyone.

It also has a -10 day cooldown.

Bobble
02-08-2010, 04:41 AM
This is just data. But i can make a conjecture about possibly one thing:
Assuming that either Kennedy or Rodger is an IMP..Maliwan, Kluck, and uWPboble voted both of them.
goodnight

Please, just call me Bobble. That goes for everyone.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:43 AM
Maliwan, there are still 2 times where you have it spelt Rodger.

I am not amused.

ShadowExile
02-08-2010, 04:43 AM
Just thought I'd point out a few things. Firstly, this suspicious post that some of you MAY have skipped:


soIimAreallyMgladAthatSpeopleAseemPtoLbeItakingNth eirGtime to make decisionsPasLopposedEtoAtheSlastEgameKwhereEeveryb odyEseemedPtoTbeHbloodthirsty, whichIresultedSinAtheSimmediateElynchingsCofRmanyE saplings.Tiknow its boringRjustEtoSwaitParound,ObutNtheDlongerLweIwait ,KtheEmoreTinformationHwe get,IandSthe better we can base our decisions.

If you think about it and know the cypher for this, you get this result:


I AM A SAPLING. PLEASE KEEP THIS SECRET. RESPOND LIKE THIS.


Just something to dwell on.

Furthermore, I believe that I may know two hellbourne; one I am convinced he is a hellbourne, and the second I am not too sure. Please, review the posts, they all contain critical information when examined carefully. Think about how the first two games were played; I was a noob in the second game; so I could not analyze exactly how people were reacting. If I had known, I would very much have voted off noodle and Sneaky early on.

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 04:44 AM
Maliwan, there are still 2 times where you have it spelt Rodger.

I am not amused.

You're clearly looking for reasons to get offended. Imp bastard.

/sarcasm

Bobble
02-08-2010, 04:44 AM
Maliwan, there are still 2 times where you have it spelt Rodger.

I am not amused.

Yes, but there are 3 times where he has spelt it Roger. So he's doing well so far.

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 04:45 AM
Just thought I'd point out a few things. Firstly, this suspicious post that some of you MAY have skipped:



If you think about it and know the cypher for this, you get this result:




Just something to dwell on.

Furthermore, I believe that I may know two hellbourne; one I am convinced he is a hellbourne, and the second I am not too sure. Please, review the posts, they all contain critical information when examined carefully. Think about how the first two games were played; I was a noob in the second game; so I could not analyze exactly how people were reacting. If I had known, I would very much have voted off noodle and Sneaky early on.

explain the cypher?

Bobble
02-08-2010, 04:46 AM
explain the cypher?

He can't. He is not in the game. He can't give his suspicions or obvious clues. Or any clues for that matter.

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 04:46 AM
He definitely just did.

Bobble
02-08-2010, 04:47 AM
He definitely just did.

I know. He's being very naughty here.

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 04:48 AM
Methinks we should spank him. Grab the paddle.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:48 AM
soIisTthisShowSthePcypherEworksLorTwhat?

IRthinkOIGgotEitR

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:49 AM
its actually pretty obvious

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 04:49 AM
sorry sorry sorry and Shadow: as many people respect you, such as myself, I think I speak for every person in this game to not mention any clues, but i will review the games myself.

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 04:50 AM
Roger I'm too damn tired to figure it out, please love me and explain.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:50 AM
I dont know why Miley even bothered with that, the imps had just as much chance to notice it, and it should be obvious for them now.

Im not telling you Kennedy you evil imp

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 04:53 AM
I am not an imp. seriously, i'm a ****ing sapling.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:56 AM
OkYKennedyOIUbelieveIyou,MyouPareYnotOanUimp.

Bobble
02-08-2010, 04:58 AM
I am not an imp.

You don't know how this game works, do you? But I like your style. HEY GUYS! I'M NOT AN IMP EITHER!!!

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 05:00 AM
Now I know I don't like Kennedy... but Kluckmuck looks even more sus than him.

I mean he's done nothing but do blanket votes. I might change my vote depending on what you fellow saplings think.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 05:04 AM
I want to end this day. can we vote on someone? We can't find out anything right now but posts and conjectures..we need to test the waters.
I say kill kennedy for now. Notice that RodgerDodger almost had 8 votes VERY quickly. something doesn't add up..
Vote Kennedy

Bobble
02-08-2010, 05:08 AM
Guys, stop hiding your messages in black text. I feel like i'm missing a big joke if I'm just looking at the message. I mean, i'm highlighting the whole freaking page to find these secret messages. it's really pissing me off. So stop it guys!

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 05:08 AM
Holy crap I had 7 at one point O_O

I didn't even count them before...

Bobble
02-08-2010, 05:09 AM
you were almost dead Roger. Feel lucky you are still alive.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 05:10 AM
Well Im gonna die soon anyway...

Im just glad I got the game moving.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 05:20 AM
this game pisses me off

Kennedy
02-08-2010, 05:24 AM
can we please just kill someone already, we're 12 pages and three real days in.

Sneaky_NEDM
02-08-2010, 05:52 AM
I will be your sacrifice!!!

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 05:59 AM
Guys, stop hiding your messages in black text. I feel like i'm missing a big joke if I'm just looking at the message. I mean, i'm highlighting the whole freaking page to find these secret messages. it's really pissing me off. So stop it guys!
Blame Miley

ShadowExile
02-08-2010, 06:51 AM
Well guys, I was being a little bit (just slightly) like xMonodo, but I was not saying who is who. I'm just saying, last game we kinda ignored a few obvious clues, and it made us lose. I believe I know about 2 hellbournes, and I won't reveal who they are, but if you manage to link together the posts that I have, you may find the same connection that (to me) is obvious.

Furthermore, the Cypher of Miley seems to be some sort of stunt that will neither confirm her being sapling nor deny her of being imp completely, so it's a bit like some of my stunts last game where I was a Jeraziah but I said random things like, "I am Madman", etc. Not sure why I did it, and perhaps Miley is playing a similar game. Think of me as a narrator that brings up unimportant things that people have missed and also an alarm that reminds you in an annoying way to check previous posts often just in case you miss something :D

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 06:54 AM
Im curious how the hell you found out the cypher.

Do you have dead pixels on your monitor or something.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 06:55 AM
I wish the forum had some sort of function where you could read every post in a particular thread by a particular person...

noodle0117
02-08-2010, 07:21 AM
I wish the forum had some sort of function where you could read every post in a particular thread by a particular person...
there already is.
Click on a person's name, click "view public profile", click statistics.

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 07:27 AM
Thats every post by that person.

Not every post by that person in a certain thread. (Unless Im missing something)

Danvari
02-08-2010, 10:17 AM
I want to end this day. can we vote on someone? We can't find out anything right now but posts and conjectures..we need to test the waters.
I say kill kennedy for now. Notice that RodgerDodger almost had 8 votes VERY quickly. something doesn't add up..
Vote Kennedy

Don't forget Roger wants us to lynch him. So let's first lynch Roger instead of Kennedy. He got the votes very quickly, because he's fairly suspicious.


Mondo made me laugh :<

MileyCyrus
02-08-2010, 12:16 PM
I dont know why Miley even bothered with that, the imps had just as much chance to notice it, and it should be obvious for them now.

Im not telling you Kennedy you evil imp

Sigh, I figured something stupid like this would happen

Well...quite simply put...the hellbourne already knows who everybody is and the Legion doesn't. This game is about gathering information, and making connections. Being able to trust another person is hugely important. I was hoping I could make a connection with others on the legion side and we could have a "true" understanding of who is who.

As for "the imps have just as great a chance to figure it out" there is what, 4 hellbourne and 11 legion? I was playing the odds and hoping that somebody from the majority figured it out, not some idiot not in the game totally ruining this plan.

I was hoping that by doing this some intelligent player on Legion would figure it out and realize that I am actually a sapling. Look at it this way.

POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FROM MY CYPHER

Nobody figures it out. No result.

If I was Hellbourne and discovered by the Legion: Why would I put my neck on the line when there was absolutely ZERO suspicion or speculation about me in the first place? It would just be stupid and risky to add that much baggage to go along with my name that wasn't there to begin with. Also...Hellbourne already has a huge advantage in this game since they ate Scout immediately, why would they bother trying some risky tactic that might put them behind the 8 ball when they already have an advantage.

If I was Hellbourne and discovered by the Hellbourne: This option makes no sense because the Hellbourne communicate anyway.

If I am a Sapling (which I am) and discovered by the Hellbourne: They would probably keep quiet and hope somebody more important revealed their role. It really wouldn't help them that much to know that I am a sapling because...well...they already know that I'm with Legion, so the only intel they gain is that I am not a more important hero like Witch Slayer or Jeraziah.

If I am a Sapling and discovered by the Legion: We gain a great advantage in that there would FINALLY be some solid trust between people on our side. This would give us a great advantage in voting without the hellbourne knowing that we were communicating. I admit it was a bit of a shot in the dark, but especially considering we have no scout on our side anymore I thought it would be worth it to try to gain some ACTUAL knowledge (which we have NONE of at this point in the game).

tl:dr

If I'm Hellbourne, the only advantage they gain is if somebody else responds and admits to being of a more important role (which I really hoped nobody like jeraziah would come out, and if they did, I hoped they would just say they were a sapling).

If I'm Legion, WE GAINED KNOWLEDGE AND TRUST. I can't stress how important that is in a game where we do not know who each other are. Lets face it, ANYBODY of the 15 people still left in this game could be an imp and its kind of silly to randomly vote and pray that we hit a hellbourne. My strategy would have given other players knowledge about my role, and therefor, given us better odds at hitting an imp.


Whew, that was long. I hope you understand what I was trying to do. Weigh the options yourself and believe what makes sense to you.

Alas, now that everybody knows what I am, I guess I'm happy...I feel like the Hellbourne won't eat me or take any action because they a.) know I have no special role, and b.) know my cypher and will probably being watching out for it now. So they know I'm useless.



PS. Congratulations Shadowexile for figuring it out, in a way it made me feel good that somebody understood it...but at the same time, thanks for nothing for putting it out in the open and reducing any strategy involved in it to now being just "OMG Miley said she was a sapling DO BELIEVE HER OR DONT BELIEVE HER"


Edit for formatting.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 02:05 PM
Don't forget Roger wants us to lynch him. So let's first lynch Roger instead of Kennedy. He got the votes very quickly, because he's fairly suspicious.


Mondo made me laugh :<

I find that really suspicious, You told everyone that supposedly kennedy had a night role. NOW you are switching your vote to rogerdoger? What's your defense?
I retract my vote from kennedy

Danvari
02-08-2010, 02:40 PM
I find that really suspicious, You told everyone that supposedly kennedy had a night role. NOW you are switching your vote to rogerdoger? What's your defense?
I retract my vote from kennedy

I'm legionnaire.

MileyCyrus
02-08-2010, 02:51 PM
I'm legionnaire.


wow. just. wow.

Danvari is totally suspicious guys! lets lynch him!

Sai
02-08-2010, 02:58 PM
I find that really suspicious, You told everyone that supposedly kennedy had a night role. NOW you are switching your vote to rogerdoger? What's your defense?
I retract my vote from kennedy


I don't remember who I voted for in the first place, but I think it was Maliwan. I'm too lazy to go look, but if it wasn't, I am now voting maliwan.


also my name is xSai not Xsai

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 03:37 PM
oh ****. I forgot. I am overthinking this game and being stupid at the same time.

Well, I am going to vote RogerDodger because if he proves to be an imp, there can be more speculations. He also called people being imps with no good reasoning, such as Kennedy and myself.

Kluckmuck
02-08-2010, 04:07 PM
oh ****. I forgot. I am overthinking this game and being stupid at the same time.

Well, I am going to vote RogerDodger because if he proves to be an imp, there can be more speculations. He also called people being imps with no good reasoning, such as Kennedy and myself.
You just keeping changing your vote...

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 04:18 PM
Hehe, well if Im gonna die soon Im gonna give my ovewview of what I think of each person.

Pettypete - Havent seen much activity from him so It's hard to make any judgement

Danvari - Legionare...

`MileyCyrus` - Seems to be a sapling, not really sure what the point of that black text deal was.

RogerDodger1 - Sapling obviously

Sidekick - Im pretty sure this guy is either not playing the game well or doesn't care all too much. He posts a lot in OT without contributing much to anything in this game so Im wondering if hes keeping quiet intentionally or not, since this is what he did last game and turned out to be an imp.

ll4mma - If hes an imp he's playing smart, defending me would be a good way to remove suspicion since he knows Im a sapling, so he's something to look out for.

Victo - Inactive, should be replaced

Maliwan - Could be either way on this one, since you seem to be playing a lot like I have been, indecisively, I think you're innocent but just a bit new like I am.

chickenfoo - Havent seen posts

Kluckmuck - Probably the most sus person so far, in fact his posts seem very 'impish' to me. Short, not saying much but trying to say alott.

devilesk - Inactive, should be replaced imo

uWPBobble - Maybe an imp trying to not put himself out there too much, not really ground to lynch.

Scout4life - A stupid sapling, or a stupid imp. There's got to be some reason why he's trying to lynch me AFTER I SAVED HIM FROM BEING LYNCHED.

Kennedy - Innocent, for now. Perhaps I was wrong about him, but I found it extremely sus that alot of people jumped to defend him, so theyre either a group of stupid saplings or all the imps.

xSai - Could be an imp playing smart or just a sapling trying to not make too big a fuss

Changing my vote to Kluckmuck

Kluckmuck
02-08-2010, 05:06 PM
Wait what? The main reason i write like that i'm on a iPhone, it take more then three times the time typing anything. Thats why i compress my posts alot.

And i'm just following the only person i can trust atm, legoinare.
And i dont like the way you defend yourself, you just keep talking about how your going to die and that your a sapling bla bla bla. But in the end of your posts you misdirect fire towards someone else.

Fiesta
02-08-2010, 05:13 PM
I don't understand; that whole statement is invalid because of the assumption that kennedy has a night role;

Can you give me some solid evidence that kennedy does in fact have a night role?
As for your first argument, i'll clear it.

Judging from the fact that Danvari was right about _ having a night role, the logical conclusion would be he would be right again. I don;t feel like doing the math, but statistically, if he was right once, he could be right again.

Honestly, it's the most we have on anyone. It's the most solid evidence, but seeing as how Roger wants to be lynched, I guess I could comply, but, then everyone would be all like 'OMG YOU MADE THE VOTE TO LYNCH HIM GO THROUGH, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY HELLBOURNE!!!!'.

I'm going to think about whether or not I want to switch votes, I honestly don't want to, as I still think Kennedy is more suspicious than Roger. If Roger is willing to sacrifice himself, well, then we can pretty much assume that he's a sapling trying to get a point across. No need to carelessly lynch him.

That, or he's a Hellbourne playing just like Naib did in the first game, but successful this time. I really don't know what to think any more. Roger's inference post was pretty much dead on, and I really don't think we should lose such an asset to our team.

Also; are we allowed to pass on lynching? If we could, possibly the Night 2 would help us figure out more about the hellbourne and their strategy. Because as of right now, we have just about nothing. Aside from Kennedy and Roger.

devilesk
02-08-2010, 05:23 PM
All this conversation and behavior analysis is pointless. For all we know, the only active people right now could be imps arguing against each other in order to create confusion. I don't trust anyone.

Also, I'm "inactive" because I already casted my vote about 10 pages ago and I'm not changing it. It's the god damn day, just lynch someone and be done with it.

LolMaliken
02-08-2010, 05:28 PM
All this conversation and behavior analysis is pointless. For all we know, the only active people right now could be imps arguing against each other in order to create confusion. I don't trust anyone.

Also, I'm "inactive" because I already casted my vote about 10 pages ago and I'm not changing it. It's the god damn day, just lynch someone and be done with it.
have you not payed attention to the last 2 games? this is what happens. granted this day one is a bit long but maybe ur end game will be a bit diff?

devilesk
02-08-2010, 05:43 PM
No I have not, but judging by the result of the previous game it looks like Legion failed.

My point is, all this talk just for the first day is excessive. In these types of games it's either a no lynch which is not an option here, or random lynch.

LolMaliken
02-08-2010, 05:51 PM
tbh last game was a failure of catastrophic proportions because simply put, the players that could see through the guise were shut up quick and whoever wasnt imp or shut up was an idiot as far as this game goes.

Sneaky_NEDM
02-08-2010, 07:01 PM
tbh last game was a failure of catastrophic proportions because simply put, the players that could see through the guise were shut up quick and whoever wasnt imp or shut up was an idiot as far as this game goes.
that was not a failure that was a victory, a very, very close to losing my head victory.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 07:04 PM
chances are: kennedy and roger are both sapplings, and the imps are sitting back, and watching the show.

need to take another approach from this; besides kennedy and roger, who else is suspicious?

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 07:34 PM
chances are: kennedy and roger are both sapplings, and the imps are sitting back, and watching the show.

need to take another approach from this; besides kennedy and roger, who else is suspicious?
Kluckmuck

RogerDodger
02-08-2010, 07:35 PM
And to devilesk, why would the imps argue with themselves, that would be a surefire way to kill themselves, chances are one of us more active posters are going down, just like last game.

A smart imp would just be sitting back or saying small comments, like Kluckmuck is.

KARTlK
02-08-2010, 07:59 PM
Top of the page, Search this thread, advanced maybe, then type the name of the player and you'll see only his posts.

devilesk
02-08-2010, 09:04 PM
And to devilesk, why would the imps argue with themselves, that would be a surefire way to kill themselves, chances are one of us more active posters are going down, just like last game.

A smart imp would just be sitting back or saying small comments, like Kluckmuck is.
Exactly, if the imps are arguing amongst themselves and then one of them goes down, it makes the surviving imps look less suspicious and more like saplings.

I'm sure that I'm greatly overestimating the intelligence of the imps though.

Maliwan
02-08-2010, 09:31 PM
I have a question to spasticmouse: can you tell me your terms on replacing people due to their lack of presence in this game?
retract vote from rogerdodger1