19 - 0 - 6 Mid bloodhunter

[Surger]

Played a kick ass game as blood hunter. Succubus let me free farm mid and then they started sending guys at me but I was to farmed too be stopped. 2 close calls but I got a 23 minute mock.

I'm just in a damn good mood about that game and feel like gloating :D I'm usually pretty average

Match ID 24738655

[Topazen]

A shitty team doesn't mean you played well... I can't really say anything about the game though as I haven't watched it yet, but I don't really have any high expectations, considering I've gone 30/2 as Arachna against a shitty team, before.

[Surger]

Eh? They weren't bad I just did a good job of shutting them down

[Topazen]

I believe you lol, didn't mean for anything to be insulting, just saying I'm skeptical about the game.

I'll watch it later though, for sure.

[Surger]

Actually looking at it now they did screw up a bit but I think they were trying to stomp. Our tempest had never played before and their Armadon did good in the beginning.

It does show though how awesome BH can be mid however

[rss]

btw

its 18 - 0 - 6

not 19

XD

gg tho, wp man

[Anvy]

ehm, you are incredibly bad BH. You could be much more aggresive vs succubus early game, thus getting MUCH more last hits. You had plenty of wasted ultimates, ulted shaman who was under effect of tempests ult (he couldn't run lol), and you even ulted illusion once, when it was clearly illusion

But the biggest mistake is blood crazy. You never used it on yourself once, then why did you level it to lvl4? But you always used lvl4 blood crazy on enemies, buffing their damage by 80%. Good player would just turn around and beat shi~ out of you after that. Blood crazy is designed that you use it on enemies only when it is lvl1 (max magical-dot damage, small base damage increase, silence) and use ONLY on yourself (or auto-attack teammates, btw you could buff war beast VERY much with it) on lvl4, increasing your base damage when your ult is on cooldown, so you basically don't suffer from silence.

You were just lucky enough to have terrible opponents, going under 40% hp while jungling

[MeKLiN]

ive gotten mock in 18 mins with mid bh

[PROc]

Qvardz is right though a little harsh. Your an OK bloodhunter you do some things right though leveling up the silence and not using it on yourself is criminal and you were lucky to get a few terrible players going mid and sitting on 50% waiting for you to ulti.

[Reonhato]

Eh? They weren't bad I just did a good job of shutting them down

no they were bad, BH is a mediocre hero at best, any decent team wont let him get many kills at all

btw 23 mins is fairly slow

[ImbaKaiXer]

zzzz luckily i don't know how to post replay im playing a high tier game just a minutes a go 24-0-10 chronos....

[Anvy]

zzzz luckily i don't know how to post replay im playing a high tier game just a minutes a go 24-0-10 chronos....

u actually gone 24-6 and lost. too bad.

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24069947

[Sway`]

whoever said you only use lvl4 blood craze on yourself is ignorant, you can completely shutdown an enemy caster in a team fight with it mid-late

[Vulpes]

Freefarm and 23 Minute Mock? It's doable around 15-17.

[Surger]

ehm, you are incredibly bad BH. You could be much more aggresive vs succubus early game, thus getting MUCH more last hits. You had plenty of wasted ultimates, ulted shaman who was under effect of tempests ult (he couldn't run lol), and you even ulted illusion once, when it was clearly illusion

But the biggest mistake is blood crazy. You never used it on yourself once, then why did you level it to lvl4? But you always used lvl4 blood crazy on enemies, buffing their damage by 80%. Good player would just turn around and beat shi~ out of you after that. Blood crazy is designed that you use it on enemies only when it is lvl1 (max magical-dot damage, small base damage increase, silence) and use ONLY on yourself (or auto-attack teammates, btw you could buff war beast VERY much with it) on lvl4, increasing your base damage when your ult is on cooldown, so you basically don't suffer from silence.

You were just lucky enough to have terrible opponents, going under 40% hp while jungling


Good points. While I disagree with being called incredibly bad I would certainly concede to "not awesome". I started getting lazy once I knew I was farmed. Which was evident the two times I was almost killed. I also used Blood crazy often on the opposition because many of them had escape mechanisms or slows. Armadon could quill the hell out of me while I chased, demented could root (not a big deal), succy could sleep, DL could leap, and scout could invis. If it was someone like zeph I would probably have refrained. The mid game could have gone better I agree I did start to get lax and the Ulting of the illusion is a good example of that.

But I digress while it does appear you were attempting to be extra harsh in your criticism due to my ego in my first post I still very much appreciate you viewing the replay and providing feedback, I will make use of it next time I get BH.

[KEENGAMER]

whoever said you only use lvl4 blood craze on yourself is ignorant, you can completely shutdown an enemy caster in a team fight with it mid-late

If you use blood crazy on yourself you're an idiot, it's VERY rare that the best target to silence is yourself.

Also slow mock, replay not worth posting. 1/100th of the people who solo mid on bloodhunter get farmed and go something like 19/0 posted their replay on the forums that's all the replay forums would be

[Surger]

If you use blood crazy on yourself you're an idiot, it's VERY rare that the best target to silence is yourself.

Also slow mock, replay not worth posting. 1/100th of the people who solo mid on bloodhunter get farmed and go something like 19/0 posted their replay on the forums that's all the replay forums would be

Perhaps you would care to be more constructive?

Like how about posting some better replays of BH mid or Pointing out what I could have done differently.

I don't mind constructive criticism at all. You are right I probably didn't need to post it but I was all charged up and wanted to tell people. Since it's here perhaps I can use it as a tool to improve.

If it is a pointless thread pointing out it's pointless it certainly not helping.

[Anvy]

well my phrase "incredibly bad" was trolling :)

[KEENGAMER]

Perhaps you would care to be more constructive?

Like how about posting some better replays of BH mid or Pointing out what I could have done differently.

I don't mind constructive criticism at all. You are right I probably didn't need to post it but I was all charged up and wanted to tell people. Since it's here perhaps I can use it as a tool to improve.

If it is a pointless thread pointing out it's pointless it certainly not helping.

If you want help playing blood hunter post in the training grounds asking for help on blood hunter don't post a replay of you going 19/0 vs some idiots like it's some kind of achievement

[Tamachan]

There is nothign wrong with never casting blood crazy on yourself (depending on teh team obviously) but the point stands if you are going to do that DO NOT LEVEL IT TO LEVEL 4.

i think we can all agree on that and call it a day.

[Shzzzir]

Yeah, you never level it past lvl1 until you know you're farmed enough to do a shitload of damage and get a lot of potential out of the % damage increase.

[hYde`]

zzzz luckily i don't know how to post replay im playing a high tier game just a minutes a go 24-0-10 chronos....


I lol'd


Serious troll maybe... dude you are far away from any sort of high tier gaming... seriously

[Surger]

If you want help playing blood hunter post in the training grounds asking for help on blood hunter don't post a replay of you going 19/0 vs some idiots like it's some kind of achievement

Well I appreciate you coming out. Looking at your stats I would hope that you might have something more intelligent and helpful to say but it appears skill does not equate to civility nor courtesy.

For wasting your precious time I apologize for posting this. In the future I will think before posting a replay merely because it made me feel good. Though I would implore you to seek to be a bit more constructive in your responses as you currently come off quite abrasive and appear to be bordering on trolling. However this may in fact be what you are attempting to achieve, if so then that is your business.

[Gowerly]

This is the problem you face.
You come on here to brag about your win at tier X, someone will come along who is better and tear you apart for it. I'm not great, I don't have any great replays, so I don't care, but if you do care enough to go "I WENT 19-0 WITH BH MID LOL", there will be someone that can take the whole game apart. If you don't wnat that to happen, don't post the replay. If the game made you feel good, leave it at the game making you feel good.

[KEENGAMER]

Yeah, you never level it past lvl1 until you know you're farmed enough to do a shitload of damage and get a lot of potential out of the % damage increase.

Or if you want a longer silence..

[Surger]

This is the problem you face.
You come on here to brag about your win at tier X, someone will come along who is better and tear you apart for it. I'm not great, I don't have any great replays, so I don't care, but if you do care enough to go "I WENT 19-0 WITH BH MID LOL", there will be someone that can take the whole game apart. If you don't wnat that to happen, don't post the replay. If the game made you feel good, leave it at the game making you feel good.

I quite agree I probably should not have posted the replay it still remains I did.

I would love to have it taken apart. Qvardz's feedback while being harsh was informative. He pointed out things I did wrong and where I could improve and I thanked him for it.

Keener on the other hand has done nothing but tell me the thread is pointless and it's a 1/100 occurrence. While he is correct it's not constructive. I don't mind having my play picked apart. It's nice to have a second set of eyes. What I would love even more is to have one of worst games looked at by a better player to point out my mistakes.

I guess the mistake was posting with such an ego. People want nothing more than to troll it. As I stated before I will refrain from posting so frivolously in the future.

[KEENGAMER]

Keener on the other hand has done nothing but tell me the thread is pointless and it's a 1/100 occurrence. While he is correct it's not constructive. I don't mind having my play picked apart. It's nice to have a second set of eyes. What I would love even more is to have one of worst games looked at by a better player to point out my mistakes.


That's not what I said, you wern't looking for a critique you were looking to gloat then it turns out you were terrible and then all of a sudden you want a critique.

[Surger]

I certainly was looking to gloat.

Terrible? hardly. Not worth mentioning? Certainly. As said before I only posted it because I was in particularly good mood about the game when I normally do a much more average game. It was setup as a stomp as the scout had a 2.8 kd which made it that much sweeter.

I fully expected there to be comments about my play as I did put up a replay. While for some reasons I expected there to be some positive comments I also expected the negative. Though it has taught me some and spawned a bit of discussion about blood crazy.

Which I personally usually only use for silencing the other team. Rarely on myself unless I want to take a tower/rax quickly. I used it on the other team a lot in the match due to escape mechanisms and disables.

So you are quite wrong when you say I am terrible. If we go by a definition of relative PSR / KDR / CK:CD. I'm certainly not good but my stats peg me as slightly above the average player. If we use your apparent definition of terrible which is completely subjective then I guess I am but without any real proof on your part it does not have much merit now does it? As pointed out I did post to gloat and I did make mistakes. Neither of which alone qualifies me as terrible. Further more my states also refute the statement.

Now seeing as you have a penchant for troll-esque based responses I look forward to your response that will keep this thread on the first page where it does not belong.

[KEENGAMER]

I just went 10/0/4 on Warbeast and got 500+ gold a minute I guess i'll make a thread about it.

[Tajak]

Surger1:

Ignore Keengamer. He's an angry person (obviously) who just bashes everyone he meets. As for you posting this... I'm sure you know by now it wasn't the best idea. People on HoN are complete and total *******s. If you feel proud, you can post about it, but certainly don't come back here and check it; you'll be disappointed by the quality of the responses.

In the end, all that matters is that you had fun. Arguing with retards like Keengamer on these message boards is the exact opposite of fun.

u actually gone 24-6 and lost. too bad.

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24069947

thanks for slamming him down

[Surger]

Please do! I would like to see it. Perhaps I could improve my warbeast jungling skill by adopting some of your techniques.

Checking your recent games however the match does not appear to exist. When it comes up please post the match ID I am quite curious.

I normally start with a ring of the teacher and two mana pots so I have enough mana to get me through the first six levels or so. I do the same when I jungle with tempest. I'm curious as how you were able to pull that off. You do have a rather high psr and I imagine jungling so well at that level of play would be quite different. Or did you happen to have a short game with ten kills that inflated your gpm.

Or like everything else you've said is this statement is more trolling and the match never happened. In all honest I would actually like to see that match if you have the ID.

[Blet`]

ive gotten mock in 18 mins with mid bh
14 Mins zephyr is best i've done in hon

and 13 minutes with kunkka in dota .

non em

[Surger]

14 Mins zephyr is best i've done in hon

and 13 minutes with kunkka in dota .

non em


14 is pretty quick. Is that with the new zeph or old zeph?

[XeliN]

Quite a few *******s on these forums, you get the feeling that every post is just one big ego trip for some of you.

[KEENGAMER]

I normally start with a ring of the teacher and two mana pots so I have enough mana to get me through the first six levels or so. I do the same when I jungle with tempest. I'm curious as how you were able to pull that off.
Or like everything else you've said is this statement is more trolling and the match never happened. In all honest I would actually like to see that match if you have the ID.

I play this account when I have friends and when I play with randoms I use a different account, it was only 1600+ and the guys on the other team were awful and didn't gank me at all though with their line up I doubt they could have pulled it off if they tried. I play war beast like this pretty much whenever I play him though if im with friends the support gets the flying courier
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[Surger]

That was a good watch. You got some luck that tree didn`t eye up the forest and they made no attempts at ganking you. Also their SS was pretty bad and your team kicked butt before you came out of the forest.

But you farmed like a champ and I will be taking some of your techniques into the next game I play Warbeast in. The hatchet was smart much better than a ring of the teacher and the courier use was good too. Thank you very much for the match ID. Do you usually rush shrunken or was it against that particular line up?

[KEENGAMER]

I always rush shrunken, that wasn't even a particularly stun heavy team. Bottle+Courier means you can jungle with practically unlimited health and mana without having to spend 2k on lifesteal