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uLSe
01-28-2010, 10:45 AM
ID: 23848370
1h 6min duration

Legion
:blac::scou::elec::pred::plag:
vs
Hellborne
:pyro::poll::witc::pest::zeph:


Notable Action
(all in 'game' time)



15:06 - a nice escape from scout and others. I use cyclones to regain HP, ult to get a slow and max cyclones to regain more HP and buy time to escape.
23:30 - scout tries to harass me unsuspectingly. I ult him and didn't notice he died so easily.
25:50 - I was ganked and fended it off
30:00 - Here you'll witness me saving a pollywog barely hanging in there from a scout. I use push to bring scout away from polly and to me. I get a proc for the kill.
33:00 - My team notes a DD rune and I see that Blacksmith is heading right for us, so I grab it and gank him. He runs into my ult and gets slowed, he dies. We also kill predator thanks to Pollywog.
39:35 - My ult and a lucky proc deals some serious damage
41:40 - This is probably the best moment of the game: I bait the other team and push them together. They killed me, but that's okay, I have a token. Pestilence stuns when they're all together and I revive and ult on top of them. Combine my ult with a proc as soon as I revive and I get a hat trick (or a double, I forget).
44:40 - I do a decent push
48:35 - They get the initiate on predator and whip out a few teammates, but I use symbol of rage and Predator goes down. Special thanks to Pollywog, he played a big part in this game.
63:50 - This is the last action sequence: it's a short team fight to solidify the end of the game.



Ending items:
:SymbolOfRage: :Riftshards: :HackNSlash: :ChargedHammer: :EnhancedMarchers: :AbyssalSkull:


I'm not what I would consider a great player, but I am in no way bad. I miss quite a few last hits in the beginning and my farm is slow, but it picks up really fast. I think this game is worth watching, just because of the new abilities and the fact that the new Zephyr is pretty awesome.

I hope you learn something or enjoy the replay in the very least. I would appreciate any advice you have for me on the game so that I might improve!

Thanks

Rassiter
01-28-2010, 12:43 PM
Unfortunately I had to stop watching early, I had to leave, but I love watching zephyr replays. some things I noticed for the first 12 or so minutes I watched:

1. you didn't pick up your stun, I noticed that it would have gotten you the scout kill and maybe saved yourself or pyro another time early on, even 1 point in it is enough to push an enemy back while you can escape.

2. I noticed you were creep pulling, and while that's fine, you could have just tanked the creeps, especially when you had multiple points in wind shield, then healed up with your winds. I didn't really see you heal with your winds, I'm guessing you did, I just didn't finish the replay. Also, there were times when you would stand still waiting for a creep lane, or I don't really know why, but you were close enough to a creep spawn to tank it and heal. (again, not a big deal)

As far as the ending items from your post... how did that work out for you? I always play zephyr as a tank, but now that he lost his initiation with leap, and gained damage with his ulti, a dps/carry build could work out. One thing about the items though, you got symbol of rage, and abyssal skull, do you really need that much lifesteal? you can already heal with your winds... idk.

If you were going for the dps/carry build, I think you should have got the stun over shield, and only 1 point in shield for the chasing.

Overall, fun game, hope to finish it, and witchslayer was a fayget :P

garblax
01-28-2010, 12:51 PM
Here's my zephyr replay: http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=23859597

I note I did vastly different items than you, Manta + Skadi; I don't know what to build on him. Was hoping to Illusion + Ulti would give full tornadoes to the Illusions. Don't think that works. Also, all I did this replay was CS decently and tool around and get ganked a lot. Additionally, I was solo mid zephyr to some success.

KopfHand
01-28-2010, 12:54 PM
hm since the patch zephyr is just gay

Rassiter
01-28-2010, 12:56 PM
hm since the patch zephyr is just gay

well he IS an owl

uLSe
01-28-2010, 01:05 PM
Unfortunately I had to stop watching early, I had to leave, but I love watching zephyr replays. some things I noticed for the first 12 or so minutes I watched:

1. you didn't pick up your stun, I noticed that it would have gotten you the scout kill and maybe saved yourself or pyro another time early on, even 1 point in it is enough to push an enemy back while you can escape.

2. I noticed you were creep pulling, and while that's fine, you could have just tanked the creeps, especially when you had multiple points in wind shield, then healed up with your winds. I didn't really see you heal with your winds, I'm guessing you did, I just didn't finish the replay. Also, there were times when you would stand still waiting for a creep lane, or I don't really know why, but you were close enough to a creep spawn to tank it and heal. (again, not a big deal)

As far as the ending items from your post... how did that work out for you? I always play zephyr as a tank, but now that he lost his initiation with leap, and gained damage with his ulti, a dps/carry build could work out. One thing about the items though, you got symbol of rage, and abyssal skull, do you really need that much lifesteal? you can already heal with your winds... idk.

If you were going for the dps/carry build, I think you should have got the stun over shield, and only 1 point in shield for the chasing.

Overall, fun game, hope to finish it, and witchslayer was a fayget :P

I went into the game not knowing what to expect from gust, cyclone, or his ult, considering I didn't play during the beta phase of the patch. I realized afterwards I should have gotten level 1 gust.

I started to realize I could use one cyclone before a unit died and stay at 8 naturally. I did that later when I actually started to jungle for real. Early game the damage was just overwhelming without a shield of any sort. I couldn't really jungle until I got my thunderclaw.

I needed the life steal because of predator. I had 40% life steal while hitting for 300 damage. I literally restored 180 hp per second from lifesteal alone. Predator still ate me up, even if I used cyclones while fighting and then popped ult (Pretty poor usage of the ult in my opionion because it's only 480 HP from 16 cyclones). Not only that, but the Abyssal skull increased my base damage by like 30 or something ridiculous.

The build I went works really well, the synergy between wind shield, frostburn, push, and his ultimate is incredible. Queue it up like this:

Push enemy towards you,
Ult a tiny bit in front of your hero,
Notice the enemy is not walking because of the slows stacking,
??
win.


I ask you to please watch the rest of the replay. I did note in my post the beginning was slow, but I stress you to at least watch the timeline I posted.

Massivebarf
01-28-2010, 01:09 PM
For some reason I can't download the Replay from the site, am I doing something wrong? :confused:

EDIT: I found out that I have to download from ingame.

uLSe
01-28-2010, 01:11 PM
You have to go in game and fetch the match ID, from there you can download and then watch the replay.

Varmint
01-28-2010, 05:01 PM
dunno why people dont get port key on him, its perfect for pushing enemy backwards/placing ult, its almost like his core now

Rassiter
01-28-2010, 05:17 PM
dunno why people dont get port key on him, its perfect for pushing enemy backwards/placing ult, its almost like his core now

how does the portal key push an enemy backwards... I don't understand.
couldn't you just push him with your stun, into the center of your ult, then kill him?

uLSe
01-28-2010, 06:13 PM
Portal key would be situational at best.

01-28-2010, 07:03 PM
You could ve done better , if u would have casted ur ulti even more @teamfights , u forgot it like 4-5 times.same goes for ur stun.imo there are better itembuilds.

But still, good replay

uLSe
01-28-2010, 07:47 PM
Thanks, but I don't remember not casting my ult in a team fight unless I didn't need to, could you give me an example?

My team lacked a carry, so I don't see what's so bad about my item build, even moreso considering it go the job done.

Darwin
01-28-2010, 08:53 PM
"nice zypher replay" you have 5 deaths, try again with 1 or 2

uLSe
01-28-2010, 10:09 PM
Are you saying Zephyr should never die? Perhaps you should actually watch the replay.

My k:d was 3.4:1 for this game, by the way.

Varmint
01-29-2010, 06:56 AM
how does the portal key push an enemy backwards... I don't understand.
couldn't you just push him with your stun, into the center of your ult, then kill him?

u blink behind them and use gust, pushing them back into teamates or towers

uLSe
01-29-2010, 10:57 AM
Or you can just use gust and push them to you and your teammates.

Angriff36
01-29-2010, 01:30 PM
Should really just stick to the core man, thats a really weird item build, zeph isn't an autoattack hero.

And for the love of God lvl your gust before 11, and only 1 point in wind shield early. I'll post some of my 25-1 games with zeph later today.

uLSe
01-29-2010, 02:46 PM
Looks to me like I carried my team pretty well considering the circumstances.

fatrend1
01-30-2010, 12:11 PM
HELLBOURNE WINS

Please change the volume on that S2, please.

Belphegor
01-30-2010, 05:41 PM
u blink behind them and use gust, pushing them back into teamates or towers

You know about vector targetting yes? you can push them in whtever direction you want.