PC or Mac?

[Lukeee]

Let the battle begin.

I'm a PC.

[SausageEx]

games=pc

/thread

[Desirable]

PC games > Mac games.
They get updates quicker too. :p

[Malefication]

I prefer Macs over PCs. The only problem is that I'm a gamer so I have to sit at a PC to play most of my games. Doesn't keep me from raging over how shitty Windows is, though.

[Narfle]

I dunno, how many buttons does a mac mouse have?

[Malefication]

I dunno, how many buttons does a mac mouse have?

9001?

[Sagat]

I'll go ahead and approve this thread, but keep an eye on it.

Saying "PC vs Mac" is kind of misleading considering that it's 2010 and all macs are PC's.

$1,200 PC + decent audio interface + automated controller + beginner studio monitors > $3,000 Apple with the same specs as the PC, replace audio equipment with design equipment and other equipment if you're into other things.

Branding is branding. What it comes down to is power for the $ and software. If you’re sticking the your native OS (Windows or OSX, not dual booting)…then there are still far more applications available for PC.

In the end they’re both PCs running the exact same hardware. The only difference is the OS.


I prefer Macs over PCs. The only problem is that I'm a gamer so I have to sit at a PC to play most of my games. Doesn't keep me from raging over how shitty Windows is, though.
What's bad about Windows 7?

[Narfle]

But thats OOOOOVER NIIIIIIIINE THOUUUSAAAAAA

no im not gonna say it

[Narfle]

I'll go ahead and approve this thread, but keep an eye on it.

Thank you franco.

[Sagat]

Thank you franco.
(You do realize that threads go through a moderation queue, right.)

[Strider]

PC for games ofcourse !

[LordThanatos]

PC's are better then MAC.

IF you want a PC with the same HARDWARE SPECIFICATIONS as a MAC, than it will cost you cheaper. Only an IDIOT will say that a MAC is better cause it has cheaper software ... software can be gotten freely of the net if you are smart.

If anyone has a VALID reason why a MAC is better than a PC, they must combat my first statement "IF you want a PC with the same HARDWARE SPECIFICATIONS as a MAC, than it will cost you cheaper". Link ppls

[Sagat]

PC's are better then MAC.

IF you want a PC with the same HARDWARE SPECIFICATIONS as a MAC, than it will cost you cheaper. Only an IDIOT will say that a MAC is better cause it has cheaper software ... software can be gotten freely of the net if you are smart.

If anyone has a VALID reason why a MAC is better than a PC, they must combat my first statement "IF you want a PC with the same HARDWARE SPECIFICATIONS as a MAC, than it will cost you cheaper". Link ppls
I wouldn't say warez really justifies buying one system over the other.

And just for the sense of playing Devil's Advocate, please build me a computer with a 27" IPS screen that matches the 27" iMac.

[Narfle]

(You do realize that threads go through a moderation queue, right.)

I do, i read the thread about it when it was created and stickied.

Not that i understood the logic of it, however.

"this forum has improved, i'll throw on some restrictive features because it has improved".

But then again, i havent really been understanding most peoples logic lately.

[Danvari]

Oh no my mac isn't working. See you guys in 2 weeks.

It's PC for me.

[Sagat]

I do, i read the thread about it when it was created and stickied.

Not that i understood the logic of it, however.

"this forum has improved, i'll throw on some restrictive features because it has improved".

But then again, i havent really been understanding most peoples logic lately.
I'd say we're extremely lax with the moderation, though - most threads go through except for the useless spam and the single YT links.

[Magissia]

PC means Personal Computer

A Personal COMPUTER can have multiples OS, like WINDOWS, Appleshit or Linux

[twincannon]

What Magissia said. the mac/pc ads make me rage because a mac is a personal computer.

Anyway windows>osx because of compatibility. OSX>windows in terms of usability/accessibility but... when you have no apps to use or access, it kind of becomes a null point.

[Sagat]

OSX>windows in terms of usability/accessibility but...
I'd say it's personal opinion. The mouse acceleration in OS X drives me insane when doing design work.

[willdaBEAST]

I think a lot of you will be pretty surprised if you compare the cost of one of the newer iMacs with a store bought PC. Anyone comparing self-built PCs to any kind of brand name computer, is just being ridiculous.

27-inch: 3.06GHz Intel core duo
4 GB memory
1 TB HD
DVD/CD burner
ATI Radeon HD 4670

for $1,699. The quadcore 2.66 GHz is $1,990 and comes with an ATI Radeon HD 4850 card.

You don't even need a $3000 mac to do audio work, that would only be necessary for professional visual editing. And before you try to correct me, I work as a professional sound designer on an iMac. From my experience, PCs have caught up a lot in terms of support for professional video editing, sound or graphic design, but every single person that I know who has tried to run their studios with a PC has had terrible terrible issues with their computer. There's just a lot less issues with updates, incompatibilities and at least prior to Windows 7, general stability. I've still never had a virus after using Macs for 18 years and have never lost data (school work or professional) in a software related crash on OSX. This is also overlooking the fact that 98% of studios use Mac systems and while Pro Tools supports cross platform compatibility, you need to know how to use a Mac if you want to get work anywhere. It's a bit of the same situation as games on PCs, the entire market used to be on PCs so almost every game is designed for a PC. It is no longer tied to actual computer capabilities, just engrained demographics. I have noticed that HoN runs horribad on OSX though, I blame OpenGL for killing my frame rate.

[OTRawrior]

PC: "Played any good games lately?"
Mac: "STFU!"

[willdaBEAST]

What Magissia said. the mac/pc ads make me rage because a mac is a personal computer.

Anyway windows>osx because of compatibility. OSX>windows in terms of usability/accessibility but... when you have no apps to use or access, it kind of becomes a null point.

I remember reading a cost analysis between a PC with Windows and a Mac which included the benefits of iLife on the Mac. You get a decent photo editing program, Garage Band, iMovie, iDVD and all sorts of programs pre-bundled and I personally run Bootcamp for the few programs that are Windows only. What apps are Macs desperately missing? I can understand games, but honestly PC gaming in general is in a pretty shaky place due to consoles dominating the market.

[Zoneseek]

Saying "PC vs Mac" is kind of misleading considering that it's 2010 and all macs are PC's.

This. The argument is Windows vs MacOS. Hardware wise, Mac's are just overpriced PC's with a shiny white case.

[Farmbot]

PC != Windows

Sigh...

[Norroar]

I'm a PC.

Yes.

A PC.

[Sagat]

I think a lot of you will be pretty surprised if you compare the cost of one of the newer iMacs with a store bought PC. Anyone comparing self-built PCs to any kind of brand name computer, is just being ridiculous.

27-inch: 3.06GHz Intel core duo
4 GB memory
1 TB HD
DVD/CD burner
ATI Radeon HD 4670

for $1,699. The quadcore 2.66 GHz is $1,990 and comes with an ATI Radeon HD 4850 card.

You don't even need a $3000 mac to do audio work, that would only be necessary for professional visual editing. And before you try to correct me, I work as a professional sound designer on an iMac. From my experience, PCs have caught up a lot in terms of support for professional video editing, sound or graphic design, but every single person that I know who has tried to run their studios with a PC has had terrible terrible issues with their computer. There's just a lot less issues with updates, incompatibilities and at least prior to Windows 7, general stability. I've still never had a virus after using Macs for 18 years and have never lost data (school work or professional) in a software related crash on OSX. This is also overlooking the fact that 98% of studios use Mac systems and while Pro Tools supports cross platform compatibility, you need to know how to use a Mac if you want to get work anywhere. It's a bit of the same situation as games on PCs, the entire market used to be on PCs so almost every game is designed for a PC. It is no longer tied to actual computer capabilities, just engrained demographics. I have noticed that HoN runs horribad on OSX though, I blame OpenGL for killing my frame rate.
I need $900 for a box with a decent processor and 8 GB RAM.

Even less, probably $800, for audio work up to a semi-professional level. Decent processor, 4 GB RAM, and a sound card. Done. Anything else is personal opinion or ad populum arguments (which your post clearly shows in bolded)

I remember reading a cost analysis between a PC with Windows and a Mac which included the benefits of iLife on the Mac. You get a decent photo editing program, Garage Band, iMovie, iDVD and all sorts of programs pre-bundled and I personally run Bootcamp for the few programs that are Windows only. What apps are Macs desperately missing? I can understand games, but honestly PC gaming in general is in a pretty shaky place due to consoles dominating the market.
Every application, barring Garage Band, has an equivalent with Windows 7 + Live Essentials.

[LolMaliken]

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what kinda protools do you use? cause i havent heard of any issues with 7 if ur using protools 8 LE.

[Malefication]

What's bad about Windows 7?

I don't mind Windows 7 all that much, actually. Only one of three Windows computers in my house uses W7 and all I really do on it is play HoN and use Skype/interwebs on the second screen so I can't really have much to complain about. I don't think there is much to complain about and it's obviously better than Vista. Though everything is. The other two Windows computers in my house use Vista and oh man...

Though I think it was shitty Norton Anti Virus' fault, one of the computers decided to restart without warning, quitting HoN and all the other **** I had running. Thankfully the screen just said DEFEAT so no harm done.

[Narfle]

I'd say we're extremely lax with the moderation, though - most threads go through except for the useless spam and the single YT links.

Thats great (and i dont mean that in any sarcastic way), but its really not relevant to what i was saying. I was questioning the logic behind the added moderation, is all.

I dont understand the train of thought.

"This is doing good, i'll restrict it."

Unless you hate it, obviously. But i doubt S2 hates their own forums.

What the whole thing desperatly needs is a "because"

"This SI-SAI is doing good, ill restrict it, because if i dont it might kill everything and blow up the planet for reasons i can never hope to understand".

Like that. That would make me happy. Because then I might understand it.

I like understanding things.

[Sagat]

I don't mind Windows 7 all that much, actually. Only one of three Windows computers in my house uses W7 and all I really do on it is play HoN and use Skype/interwebs on the second screen so I can't really have much to complain about. I don't think there is much to complain about and it's obviously better than Vista. Though everything is. The other two Windows computers in my house use Vista and oh man...

Though I think it was shitty Norton Anti Virus' fault, one of the computers decided to restart without warning, quitting HoN and all the other **** I had running. Thankfully the screen just said DEFEAT so no harm done.
Do you complain about Mac OS X 10.1 as much as you complain about Vista and XP?

Thats great (and i dont mean that in any sarcastic way), but its really not relevant to what i was saying. I was questioning the logic behind the added moderation, is all.

I dont understand the train of thought.

"This is doing good, i'll restrict it."

Unless you hate it, obviously. But i doubt S2 hates their own forums.

What the whole thing desperatly needs is a "because"

"This SI-SAI is doing good, ill restrict it, because if i dont it might kill everything and blow up the planet for reasons i can never hope to understand".

Like that. That would make me happy. Because then I might understand it.

I like understanding things.
I'd hardly call it a restriction - the only threads that get moderated are threads like "LOL CHECK THIS BREAKDANCE FART VIDEO OUT".

[willdaBEAST]

I need $900 for a box with a decent processor and 8 GB RAM.

Even less, probably $800, for audio work up to a semi-professional level. Decent processor, 4 GB RAM, and a sound card. Done. Anything else is personal opinion or ad populum arguments (which your post clearly shows in bolded)

Post a link then to a comparable PC with Windows from a store, when I looked on Dell, HP, etc, the price difference was within $400 or less. How is not getting viruses personal opinion? I've never even had a virus scare, the stats alone on how many viruses there have ever been for Mac are indisputable and when you're trying to run a business, not having to jump through hurdles to avoid data corruption is pretty important. Not everyone is a computer tech and if you're renting out your system to clients, you run the risk of them downloading something stupid. Windows is constantly addressing security flaws, that's not opinion and the more things on your system change, the greater the risk of software or hardware incompatibilities. If I've been working on a movie for 2 months, the last thing I want to do is change or update anything, you want a stable system to complete the project and minimize any variables.


what kinda protools do you use? cause i havent heard of any issues with 7 if ur using protools 8 LE. Wasn't so much a Pro Tools issue as the computer itself having issues with hardware and crashes. This was pre-Windows 7, so I don't know if that's changed or not.

[Loli]

You're posting this too a gaming community. 90% of people will say PC.
Now if only 90% of everyone would say PC :[

[Malefication]

Do you complain about Mac OS X 10.1 as much as you complain about Vista and XP?

If I could remember 10.1...

I do actually QQ about this iMac I'm sitting on just because for some time ago (almost a year) it became all sluggish and crappy compared to how it used to be, but that's probably just because I've got too much **** on it and I'm too lazy to remove crap I don't need/buy an extended HD. No viruses, though, is awesome and I'm pretty sure that was the case with OSX 10.1 too.

[Narfle]

I'd hardly call it a restriction - the only threads that get moderated are threads like "LOL CHECK THIS BREAKDANCE FART VIDEO OUT".

Did you even read what you quoted Franco? Or did you just think it would be hillarious to miss the point again, now that it was explained in much greater detail?

Yeah, i dont think its that huge a restriction either. But its still a ****ing restriction, now isnt it?

As i said before, i dont mind it. I just dont understand the motive of it being put in.

Go ahead, miss the point again. Make my day. Mother****er.

But before you do, you have to consider one thing. Did he shoot 178 times or 179 times? Well punk, do you feel lucky?

Do you?

[Magissia]

You're posting this too a gaming community. 90% of people will say PC.
Now if only 90% of everyone would say PC :[

I think more than 90% have a PERSONAL COMPUTER

[Sinestro]

It's partly because this forum was spammed with all kinds of inane topics that had zero place on the forums what-so-ever, which is - likely - the biggest cause of the wipe that OT had not too long ago.

Or ya know, one would assume.

[Sagat]

Post a link then to a comparable PC with Windows from a store, when I looked on Dell, HP, etc, the price difference was within $400 or less.
Why? Try newegg and then buy a soundcard.

How is not getting viruses personal opinion?
Not that itself, but using it as an argument. I haven't ran a firewall or antivirus since I got my first own computer and the only thing I've got since that time is a tracking cookie and two. Even when running pirated, old versions of XP.


not having to jump through hurdles to avoid data corruption is pretty important.
Usually data corruption is about hard drives. Something which RAIDs is good at preventing. Since when can an iMac handle RAIDs?


Not everyone is a computer tech and if you're renting out your system to clients, you run the risk of them downloading something stupid. Windows is constantly addressing security flaws, that's not opinion and the more things on your system change, the greater the risk of software or hardware incompatibilities.
I'd say it's virtually impossible or just really hard to infect a computer running up to date Windows 7 with Firefox or similar browser without deliberately disabling security features.


If I've been working on a movie for 2 months, the last thing I want to do is change or update anything, you want a stable system to complete the project and minimize any variables.
What if your hard drive crashes? It'd take me no time at all to set up a RAID now with my dual Seagates. It'd require a Mac Pro with the raid addon for like $1000 to do that.

Did you even read what you quoted Franco? Or did you just think it would be hillarious to miss the point again, now that it was explained in much greater detail?

Yeah, i dont think its that huge a restriction either. But its still a ****ing restriction, now isnt it?

As i said before, i dont mind it. I just dont understand the motive of it being put in.

Go ahead, miss the point again. Make my day. Mother****er.

But before you do, you have to consider one thing. Did he shoot 178 times or 179 times? Well punk, do you feel lucky?

Do you?
I really love your strawmen and attempts on shooting the messenger, but I'll have to refer you to my PM box or my superiors if you have further questions instead of derailing this thread. Case closed.

[NrFive]

PC ofcourse...

but with enough money I'd just get a Mac and make a dual boot... ah well

[Sinestro]

For ****s sake people, PC has become synonymous to "Computer with Windows" for the past decade. Stop being so damn nitpickey about something that, in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter.

This thread is Windows VS Mac's OS. Stop treating it like "omg you said pc but guess what a mac is a pc so which is better a pc or a pc ?!?!?!"

[Wolfy01]

so which is better a pc or a pc ?!?!?!"

a pc of course.

[Kaee]

Poh-Tae-Toes / Poe-Tae-Toes.

i dont see why people dont just get a computer built , save money and DUAL BOOT.
W7 + what ever the hell the mac os (best/latest) is.
Simple?

[TheOriginal]

ASUS G71Gx Baby, With a built in Nvidia 260M

I love it BB

[Cheeseburger]

As far as brandsgo, Macs are terribly overpriced and thus terrible as far as value goes. If everyone used Macs and their prices were lower, they'd be better, but, let's be honest, if everyone used Macs then they'd be just as terrible as Windows regardless.

[Sagat]

As far as brandsgo, Macs are terribly overpriced and thus terrible as far as value goes. If everyone used Macs and their prices were lower, they'd be better, but, let's be honest, if everyone used Macs then they'd be just as terrible as Windows regardless.
Again, what's bad with Windows 7?

[willdaBEAST]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147040
Here's a very similar computer to the quad-core iMac http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?aid=AIC-WWW-NAUS-K2-BUYNOW-MACBOOK-TECH+SPECS&cp=BUYNOW-MACBOOK-TECH+SPECS. The main differences between them are the newegg one comes with more RAM and the iMac comes with a 27" HD monitor built in. It's $200 to bump the iMac up to 8 gb of RAM and a 27" monitor is about $1,000 for a similar quality one and $400 for something like this http://about.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=719439698/search=LG%2BElectronics%2BW2753VPF.

So assuming you buy the cheaper 27" monitor (debatable if that's fair) the PC with Windows comes out to $1629.99 and the 27" iMac would be $2,199.99. Does Windows home come bundled with all the similar software as iLife? The main other differences between them is that the iMac is integrated into the screen, while you would still have a tower on the PC. This is double-edged, if you're not planning on doing significant expansions to the computer, the iMac has a much smaller footprint and lower power consumption; on the other hand the PC has much greater customizing options post-purchase. In terms of warranty, the PC has 30 days for a return and a 1 year manufacturer's warranty, while the iMac has 90 days for a return and 1 year manufacturer's warranty with the option for 2 additional years of coverage for $169. I don't know what repairing a PC is like, but the Applestore has pretty fantastic service. I just had my graphic card replaced after issues with the driver fried it on XP and they did it for free and finished the repair the day I brought it in. I had the power supply die on my old G5 about 4 years after I bought it and while there was a recall for only 2 years on that power supply, they still replaced mine for free. If you buy something online, I'm assuming you have to ship it back to newegg or to a manufacturer, what's the general turn around time for that? Living near an Applestore would play a key role in that analysis though.

I'd personally pay $500 for the difference and if you accurately calculate the cost of a similar screen, they'd be about the same price.

[COOLFACEBRO]

Really tempted to post the 'typical Macfag' picture. I WON'T, CALM DOWN.

[Gorb]

willdaBEAST, upgrading a tower/desktop PC is very easy to learn how to do yourself, and any competent hardware technician will also be able to do any tricky bits for you.

By the by, what if you don't want a 27" screen? What if you need 4+ USB 2.0 ports? What if you want a monitor you can upgrade?

Questions, questions!

Oh, and yeah, I'm for the tower/desktop crowd.

[Sagat]

So assuming you buy the cheaper 27" monitor (debatable if that's fair) the PC with Windows comes out to $1629.99 and the 27" iMac would be $2,199.99.
Let's go with two S-IPS monitors instead. How about the NEC EA231WMI? There's no fair comparison, really, as 27" monitors aren't on the market right now. Besides, not everyone wants a 27" screen. Not everyone needs S-IPS.




Does Windows home come bundled with all the similar software as iLife?
Minus GarageBand.

The main other differences between them is that the iMac is integrated into the screen, while you would still have a tower on the PC. This is double-edged, if you're not planning on doing significant expansions to the computer, the iMac has a much smaller footprint and lower power consumption
Not necessarily.

In terms of warranty, the PC has 30 days for a return and a 1 year manufacturer's warranty, while the iMac has 90 days for a return and 1 year manufacturer's warranty with the option for 2 additional years of coverage for $169. I don't know what repairing a PC is like, but the Applestore has pretty fantastic service.
Apple Care is trash and barely covers anything.

If you buy something online, I'm assuming you have to ship it back to newegg or to a manufacturer, what's the general turn around time for that? Living near an Applestore would play a key role in that analysis though.
Yeah, and if we switch the roles and make sure the applestore is in Alaska, the comparison isn't as fun anymore.


I'd personally pay $500 for the difference and if you accurately calculate the cost of a similar screen, they'd be about the same price.
Congratulations, the iMac is for you.

[OTBatman]

LOL oh god

[Xandlinger]

Yeah, and if we switch the roles and make sure the applestore is in Alaska, the comparison isn't as fun anymore.


We do have an Apple Store up here :(

[Marylinn]

I don't really prefer either. I own PCs because it's what I'm familiar with, but my boyfriend has a Mac and I don't mind it much either. He loves all of his fancy editing software, which is great for him I guess. I can't use it for much beyond browsing the internet, but I haven't really given it much of a chance.

[LolMaliken]

people who praise mac simply because of its standard editing software are tools to the tenth. people who praise pc because it plays games are tools to the tenth. but i use 7 and im fine with it.

[Loli]

I think more than 90% have a PERSONAL COMPUTER

PC is the term now associated with Windows.
Yes, everyone obviously has personal computers, but its obvious that in a PC vs Mac discussion, the PC was refering to Windows.
You fail.

[Sauron`]

Honestly anyone that knows how to build a PC will choose PC, but Macs are PC's but just severely overpriced.
basically the only difference is OSX, but seeing as how Linux is free and can basically Mimic OSX i'd say PC.

i dont really have anything against Mac...but I dont see why anyone would need one tbh (unless you know NOTHING about computers, then Macs are good but expensive start)


Plus coming from a former Mac tech (and PC tech obviously) You have NO Idea how expensive Mac parts are(applecare does not cover that much trust me).
It just works....until it breaks

honestly though for price...you cannot really beat a Built Computer with windows 7/xp + Dual boot linux. it LITERALLY has everything you need, for much cheaper.
and you can't really argue the "not everyone can build a computer" thing. because anyone really can or at least knows someone that can

[BobLoblaw]

Macs are overpriced adult Fisher-Price play centers.

[Valorium]

Macs are overpriced adult Fisher-Price play centers.

So if someone playing on an "adult Fisher-Price play center" destroys you, what does that say about you?

[huY]

PC on a Mac!

[ShredderIV]

I honestly dont give a **** about which is "better".

All that i know is that currently if you want to go into film-editing or graphical design, many school nowadays REQUIRE macs.

I also know that it's usually the PC fanboys who come up and give macs a ton of ****.

They both have their strengths. They both have their weaknesses. Yes, PC's might be cheaper. Yes they have better compatibility. But that doesn't make them perfect.

I personally go to a half and half PC to Mac ratio school. I have seen PC's with hard drive crashes, battery failures, OS overloads, and a shitton of viruses. I have never had to fix a mac for someone. I have never even heard of someone with problems concerning their macs. This is pure personal experience. Of course they paid 400$ less for their laptops, but they went without them for a week due to complications.

[willdaBEAST]

Well I'm done trying to discuss this, it's clearly not going anywhere. I don't care if people prefer to use Windows, I just don't think there's much of a right to claim that Macs are overpriced anymore, just as you can't say that Windows won't run any professional audio, video or graphics programs.

[quote[Originally Posted by willdaBEAST
If you buy something online, I'm assuming you have to ship it back to newegg or to a manufacturer, what's the general turn around time for that? Living near an Applestore would play a key role in that analysis though.
Yeah, and if we switch the roles and make sure the applestore is in Alaska, the comparison isn't as fun anymore.[/quote] Redundant statements really aren't necessary, you've been repeating things I've already addressed over and over, using them as a counter-argument and then not even responding to a direct question. What's the alternative to Apple Care? Nothing? I'm sure it's not flawless, but I'm damned sure it's better than a 1 year factory warranty or sending a computer back to Newegg.

[LadyGaga]

Macs are overpriced adult Fisher-Price play centers.
ROFL!! This is sig worthy...

[Narfle]

I personally go to a half and half PC to Mac ratio school. I have seen PC's with hard drive crashes, battery failures, OS overloads, and a shitton of viruses. I have never had to fix a mac for someone. I have never even heard of someone with problems concerning their macs. This is pure personal experience. Of course they paid 400$ less for their laptops, but they went without them for a week due to complications.

Yes Macs are for people that dont know their ****, i agree.

They need to make other products in that spirit, like a fork that dont have teeth and a knife that isnt sharp.

Sure, the product will be inferior, but you cant mess up with it.

[ShredderIV]

Yes Macs are for people that dont know their ****, i agree.

They need to make other products in that spirit, like a fork that dont have teeth and a knife that isnt sharp.

Sure, the product will be inferior, but you cant mess up with it.
This totally doesnt make sense... Are you saying that mac's cant do **** ad that's why they break?

If so then you are just another mac basher who has a closed mind.

[magnakaser]

I'm poor. If I want to do things, I've always had to buy a PC because they were always much more bang for the buck. I only used a Mac for a bit back in highschool and got mad the mouse only had one button.

[Sagat]

I honestly dont give a **** about which is "better".

All that i know is that currently if you want to go into film-editing or graphical design, many school nowadays REQUIRE macs.
That is because Apple literally bought the schools out. I can understand film editing due to final cut, but there's absolutely zero things that make Macs better for graphical design and I'd like to see anyone prove me wrong on this, especially considering I design stuff myself. I dare you, explain to me why Macs are better for graphical design, you'll find it hard to come up with a single argument that isn't personal opinion ("OS X is easier!" etc).



I personally go to a half and half PC to Mac ratio school. I have seen PC's with hard drive crashes, battery failures, OS overloads, and a shitton of viruses. I have never had to fix a mac for someone.
Then you'd know that Macs have just as many hard drive crashes and battery failures.
Dare I say, sometimes even more if you bought the generation with faulty hard drives.


I have never even heard of someone with problems concerning their macs.
Neither did I until my school bought macbooks to all students that don't need them. I learned a whole new side of Macintoshes.

[Narfle]

This totally doesnt make sense... Are you saying that mac's cant do **** ad that's why they break?

If so then you are just another mac basher who has a closed mind.

Nonono, i was merely saying its obvious its an inferior product, designed for people that dont know their way around computers.

I know the analogy took it a bit far, but its still just an analogy. It does make sense however, but its okay if you dont get it.

A knife that isnt sharp will still work to some extent, you will just have a much harder time hurting yourself with it. Same with a fork that doesnt have teeth (which i guess is pretty much a spoon), you can pick up food with it and transport it to your mouth for consumption. You just wont accidently poke yourself with it in a way that makes an owie.

Sooooo, theyre Macs.

Yes, i have a "PC" which is not a Mac, i figured you would like that information. I also have experience with Mac users, and i think a few of them would instantly buy the fork without teeth if it was ever made. One of them actually uses a spoon with a knife (which is as sharp as normal cutlery), because she got tired of her fork-related wounds. But ive seen normal people use a spoon and a knife when eating spaghetti as well, so its no big deal.

True story.

[Malefication]

Yes Macs are for people that dont know their ****, i agree.

They need to make other products in that spirit, like a fork that dont have teeth and a knife that isnt sharp.

Sure, the product will be inferior, but you cant mess up with it.

This has to be one of the most retarded trolling attempts I've ever seen.