English Lesson of the Day (Lesson 2)

[`Gaston`]

*Note - This is not a troll thread, but rather an educational one. Video games and the internet are sucking up the lives of too many people. It's about time some of you learn some basic English.

Today's Word: Fail

Today's English lesson is about how often I see people misuse the word "fail." Before I get in to the details, let's just clarify one thing first:

The word "fail" is a verb.

Fail (verb): to disappoint the expectations or trust of

Yes, that's right. It's a verb, not an adjective, not a noun. Let's take a look at some ways that this word is commonly misused:


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(As an adjective, incorrect)

"This thread is fail." <--Wrong!

In order to make this sentence correct, we would have to use the words "a failure" instead. In this case, we are changing the word to a noun. There is no form of the word "fail" that can ever be used as an adjective.

(Correct)

"This thread is a failure." <--Right!


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(As a noun, incorrect)

"Epic fail." <--Wrong!

There is no such thing as a fail, let alone an epic fail. In order to fix this, we would use "fail" in its intended form (as a verb), but we would use the past-tense form, "failed." We would also want to change the word "epic" to the adverb version, "epically."

(Correct)

"You failed epically." <--Right!


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A short, but simple lesson today. Together, we can teach this community to speak properly, one lesson at a time. Happy Learning! :smile:

[tomobson]

This thread is fail.

[LolTheForce]

Wow ... Good luck with this ... You're gonna need it ...

[FSUHookahMan]

Epic fail. If you're going to try and be a smartass you should know your stuff better. The English language is described as evolving, meaning changing, meaning that the origonal use of a word could be altered and/or added to. You sir, are fail. This thread is fail. HoN is win.

[Jesusv2]

fail thread is fail

[Madly]

k....

[BillyMancer]

Dude...



...You must be REALLY bored.
Get a Girlfriend.
No wait, play HoN.

[Acww52]

fail

[Puck]

*Note - This is not a troll thread.

Failing already.

[andpancakes]

I thoroughly approve of this thread.

[HahaYouDied]

http://xectrik.net/images/motivationalposters/epic-fail2-poster.jpg

[BillyMancer]

I think this thread just "failed epically".

O look, I learned something..
FAIL!

[Surger]

If one person says something is fail they are an idiot.

If millions of people use "fail" as a verb well **** it just got a new meaning by overwhelming usage.

[andpancakes]

OP, I thoroughly approve of this thread.



Epic fail. If you're going to try and be a smartass you should know your stuff better. The English language is described as evolving, meaning changing, meaning that the origonal use of a word could be altered and/or added to. You sir, are fail. This thread is fail. HoN is win.

As for you, sir, while apparently to you it's fun to be intentionally naive to the grammatical forms of the English language, one must remember how stupid one sounds.


EDIT: Hrm, somehow I doubled posted above. So be it.

[SAZ2]

This thread is a failure

[jykke]

this thread is so fail

[Manthodar]

I'm not quite sure how you can say this isn't a troll thread...

Fail and win have become parts of internet and gamer terminology, similar to noob. Trying to apply rules of grammar to something totally outside their intended scope is like criticizing Star Wars for the audible space battles.

OP's post is full of fail, and in the future, gentlemen, do not feed the troll.

[Lloyd2k4]

Please stop posting these stupid, useless threads.

[Myzery1]

http://farkphotos.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/fail1la82.jpg
MUAHAHA

[jackyan22]

–noun 13. Stock Exchange. a. a stockbroker's inability to deliver or receive security within the required time after sale or purchase. b. such an undelivered security. 14. Obsolete. failure as to performance, occurrence, etc.

From dictionary.com.


YOu got owned *****

[BillyMancer]

As for you, sir, while apparently to you it's fun to be intentionally naive to the grammatical forms of the English language, one must remember how stupid one sounds.

I think you took a left at the traffic light, where you should have gone right..
Go join the forum on the book entitled "Great Expectations".
I'm sure you'll fit right in.

[Ammar]

*Note - This is not a troll thread, but rather an educational one. Video games and the internet are sucking up the lives of too many people. It's about time some of you learn some basic English.

Today's Word: Fail

Today's English lesson is about how often I see people misuse the word "fail." Before I get in to the details, let's just clarify one thing first:

The word "fail" is a verb.

Fail (verb): to disappoint the expectations or trust of

Yes, that's right. It's a verb, not an adjective, not a noun. Let's take a look at some ways that this word is commonly misused:


________________________________________________

(As an adjective, incorrect)

"This thread is fail." <--Wrong!

In order to make this sentence correct, we would have to use the words "a failure" instead. In this case, we are changing the word to a noun. There is no form of the word "fail" that can ever be used as an adjective.

(Correct)

"This thread is a failure." <--Right!


________________________________________________

(As a noun, incorrect)

"Epic fail." <--Wrong!

There is no such thing as a fail, let alone an epic fail. In order to fix this, we would use "fail" in its intended form (as a verb), but we would use the past-tense form, "failed." We would also want to change the word "epic" to the adverb version, "epically."

(Correct)

"You failed epically." <--Right!


________________________________________________

A short, but simple lesson today. Together, we can teach this community to speak properly, one lesson at a time. Happy Learning! :smile:


I know you are trying to do something positive. You may already know this...but this community has a lot of "trolls" if you will. You will probably get 90%+ negative comments even though you are doing something good.

[andpancakes]

I think you took a left at the traffic light, where you should have gone right..
Go join the forum on the book entitled "Great Expectations".
I'm sure you'll fit right in.

I'm fully aware of my route here lol. People sound idiotic, and I like to point out this fact. You cannot deny this. Also, your "that guy" who believes he has some feel for the back alleys, slums, and social realities of the Internet. It is what it is. I'm entitled to my grammatical awareness. Only thing more hysterical than people sounding moronic (which I'm fully entitled to consider as such) is people like you who try to make people like me feel guilty for having a brain lol.

Great Job!

[CoachBombay]

fail

[Ammar]

I'm fully aware of my route here lol. People sound idiotic, and I like to point out this fact. You cannot deny this. Also, your "that guy" who believes he has some feel for the back alleys, slums, and social realities of the Internet. It is what it is. I'm entitled to my grammatical awareness. Only thing more hysterical than people sounding moronic (which I'm fully entitled to consider as such) is people like you who try to make people like me feel guilty for having a brain lol.

Totally agree.

[sealiNe]

You fail so bad.

[BrokenSaint]

OP, I thoroughly approve of this thread.
As for you, sir, while apparently to you it's fun to be intentionally naive to the grammatical forms of the English language, one must remember how stupid one sounds.

Most people are likely are NOT intentionally naive to the grammatical forms of the English language. You see, there is this thing called slang. In places that are serious business, such as English class, slang is not appropriate. In places that are not serious business, such as a thread in the forums for the beta of a video game on the internet, slang is going to be commonplace no matter how much smart-ass grammar Nazi's think they are cool trying to change that.

Fail and other such internet colloquialisms will not change by him making a thread, and it will just be seen as obnoxious.

tl;dr - This thread is fail.

[Evozer]

Most people are likely are NOT intentionally naive to the grammatical forms of the English language. You see, there is this thing called slang. In places that are serious business, such as English class, slang is not appropriate. In places that are not serious business, such as a thread in the forums for the beta of a video game on the internet, slang is going to be commonplace no matter how much smart-ass grammar Nazi's think they are cool trying to change that.

Fail and other such internet colloquialisms will not change by him making a thread, and it will just be seen as obnoxious.

tl;dr - This thread is fail.

This

[alliednoob]

sry, but ppl do this purposely (internet slang) so this thread is fail.

[Fuga]

wrong subforuma motha****a

[failtard]

I approve of any and all threads that point out spelling errors and keep our grammar in check. It is sorely needed, as anyone can tell from hanging around internet rabble :D

I.e. this thread is awesome.

[PinkoMarx]

Don't fret OP, you're not the only one who hates when people use "fail" or "win" in that context.

[Lazystallio1]

*Note - This is not a troll thread, but rather an educational one. Video games and the internet are sucking up the lives of too many people. It's about time some of you learn some basic English.

Today's Word: Fail

Today's English lesson is about how often I see people misuse the word "fail." Before I get in to the details, let's just clarify one thing first:

The word "fail" is a verb.

Fail (verb): to disappoint the expectations or trust of

Yes, that's right. It's a verb, not an adjective, not a noun. Let's take a look at some ways that this word is commonly misused:


________________________________________________

(As an adjective, incorrect)

"This thread is fail." <--Wrong!

In order to make this sentence correct, we would have to use the words "a failure" instead. In this case, we are changing the word to a noun. There is no form of the word "fail" that can ever be used as an adjective.

(Correct)

"This thread is a failure." <--Right!


________________________________________________

(As a noun, incorrect)

"Epic fail." <--Wrong!

There is no such thing as a fail, let alone an epic fail. In order to fix this, we would use "fail" in its intended form (as a verb), but we would use the past-tense form, "failed." We would also want to change the word "epic" to the adverb version, "epically."

(Correct)

"You failed epically." <--Right!


________________________________________________

A short, but simple lesson today. Together, we can teach this community to speak properly, one lesson at a time. Happy Learning! :smile:

Today's Word : Troll (Verb / Noun)
Notice how you said "Troll thread," by placing troll before thread and making thread a follow through of troll, you turned it into an adjective. Notice how Troll is not an adjective. And yes, it's the equivalent of saying "fail thread."
Note how you used it in its slang form. Good job using something called contradiction. By using slang to point your topic into a more specific meaning, you completely ruined your topic on how words should be used for what they truly are, and not for their slang. I suggest saying "this is not a useless thread... (though we all know it is)" or "this thread is not intended to be meaningless..."
A short, but very very simple lesson today on not just grammar, but speech. In any case, everyone makes mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if i made a mistake in this post, just be lucky i tidied most of it up instead of using slang. So learn! learn for lesson #3!

[miley__cyrus]

How about a nice glass of stfu?

/thread

[Fantajim]

fail thread is failing

[JiggaWugga]

Sorry, did we do "failthread is fail" yet?

[nathrill]

I susggest this thread be locked n forgoten, it is needless, and pointless to have even been posted.

[halfthought]

lol.

[iamriot]

fail (n): This thread.

As in,

This thread is fail.

[VenomKing]

(As a noun, incorrect)

"Epic fail." <--Wrong!

There is no such thing as a fail, let alone an epic fail. In order to fix this, we would use "fail" in its intended form (as a verb), but we would use the past-tense form, "failed." We would also want to change the word "epic" to the adverb version, "epically."

(Correct)

"You failed epically." <--Right!



Please note that "Epic failure" works too

[Hemmundralrh]

I must confess that I am quite appalled by the community's hostility.

[`Gaston`]

Today's Word : Troll (Verb / Noun)
Notice how you said "Troll thread," by placing troll before thread and making thread a follow through of troll, you turned it into an adjective. Notice how Troll is not an adjective. And yes, it's the equivalent of saying "fail thread."
Note how you used it in its slang form. Good job using something called contradiction. By using slang to point your topic into a more specific meaning, you completely ruined your topic on how words should be used for what they truly are, and not for their slang. I suggest saying "this is not a useless thread... (though we all know it is)" or "this thread is not intended to be meaningless..."
A short, but very very simple lesson today on not just grammar, but speech. In any case, everyone makes mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if i made a mistake in this post, just be lucky i tidied most of it up instead of using slang. So learn! learn for lesson #3!

I appreciate you trying to sound smart in pointing out my "mistake," but when referring to an internet thread, the subject can be used as the adjective, and "thread" is the noun. Some examples:

Football thread (A thread about football)
HoN thread (A thread about HoN)

No, this is not the equivalent of:

Fail thread (A thread about fail)???

You could, however, have a "Failing thread," or a thread about failing.

You can learn from me. That's what I am here for. :smile:

[iamriot]

I appreciate you trying to sound smart in pointing out my "mistake," but when referring to an internet thread, the subject can be used as the adjective, and "thread" is the noun. Some examples:

Football thread (A thread about football)
HoN thread (A thread about HoN)

No, this is not the equivalent of:

Fail thread (A thread about fail)???

You could, however, have a "Failing thread," or a thread about failing.

You can learn from me. That's what I am here for. :smile:

>>You could, however, have a "Failing thread," or a thread about failing.
>>have a "Failing thread," or a thread about failing.
>>a "Failing thread," a thread about failing.

[`Gaston`]

Please note that "Epic failure" works too

True, but I had already used "failure" in the previous example. I like to switch it up to get across as much information as possible.

[whodeyis]

I enjoy these threads.

[FluMsTeR]

WHO'S THIS "Fail" guy? i would be glad to meet him and discuss relationships and what not!

[Xizel]

Thread approved.

[Gorb]

Epic fail. If you're going to try and be a smartass you should know your stuff better. The English language is described as evolving, meaning changing, meaning that the origonal use of a word could be altered and/or added to. You sir, are fail. This thread is fail. HoN is win.
Every language is technically evolving; however the rate at which a language changes is directly proportional to; the amount of languages meeting together in a singular location (i.e. a town or city with a diverse set of ethnic minorities); the amount of generations that pass (the evolution of language is usually quite slow); and finally if the speakers of a particular nation are invaded and/or enslaved (e.g. the Norman invasion of England in 1066, the Roman invasion of most of Europe circa 100 BC to 350 AD, etc).

Thus, you can't simply add words to a language. You can create a word yourself, but that new word merely becomes a part of your ideolect (your own form of speech, derived from your dialect and the environment in which you grew up). It doesn't automatically become a part of a language just because you and a group of Internet people decided to butcher the grammar of that same language.

Oh, and it's *original.

[LaHire]

epic fail.

[Extreme_Cake]

this thread is fail.
peaches toad bowser tails

[Credge]

Here's an English Lesson for you. The English Language is constantly changing. Words often change meaning and tense based on popular usage.

You're an ignoramus.


Thus, you can't simply add words to a language.

"Bling-Bling"

[evotech]

In the internet fail is a noun.

Know your audience

[CRISPYCRAB]

lol epic fail man too bad its me blacksmith XDDD failthread XDDDD

god damn tards.

[Aizen`]

I know you are trying to do something positive. You may already know this...but this community has a lot of "trolls" if you will. You will probably get 90%+ negative comments even though you are doing something good.
Indeed. Its so sad. Good ppl getting treated like bad ppl :(

[miley__cyrus]

I appreciate you trying to sound smart in pointing out my "mistake," but when referring to an internet thread, the subject can be used as the adjective, and "thread" is the noun. Some examples:

Football thread (A thread about football)
HoN thread (A thread about HoN)

No, this is not the equivalent of:

Fail thread (A thread about fail)???

You could, however, have a "Failing thread," or a thread about failing.

You can learn from me. That's what I am here for. :smile:
stfu kid lawl

[TobyKinte]

So much fail...

Seriously. Language is not an exact code written down in books. It evolves and changes constantly. Its purpose is communication and everyone on the internet knows what's meant by "This is fail."

[Godlaik]

This thread is epic fail please close.

[magnakaser]

ITT: Lack of knowledge about semantic drift, slang, and jargon.

[RobertGoulet]

Today's Word : Troll (Verb / Noun)
Notice how you said "Troll thread," by placing troll before thread and making thread a follow through of troll, you turned it into an adjective. Notice how Troll is not an adjective. And yes, it's the equivalent of saying "fail thread."
Note how you used it in its slang form. Good job using something called contradiction. By using slang to point your topic into a more specific meaning, you completely ruined your topic on how words should be used for what they truly are, and not for their slang. I suggest saying "this is not a useless thread... (though we all know it is)" or "this thread is not intended to be meaningless..."
A short, but very very simple lesson today on not just grammar, but speech. In any case, everyone makes mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if i made a mistake in this post, just be lucky i tidied most of it up instead of using slang. So learn! learn for lesson #3!

Actually it isn't because you don't understand the usage of the word troll that the thread is referring too. Its the usage of troll that's commonly used in fishing I.E. to troll for bites, which is where the word for troll comes from. It does not come from the Tolkeinesque mythical creature. It may be a slight deviation from accepted definition, but it isn't changing a verb to a noun or adjective like he's describing.

Good try though! You should really realize when you are dealing with people of obviously superior intellect though, try to keep your false ivory tower criticisms to those who will fall for them.

[OTRobin]

troll as fuuck

[Gorb]

@ magnakaser: Hey me, I know that stuff!

Would be lost on about 95% of this thread, however. However, I suspect you're using those terms to defend the phrases and lexis the Internet collective has dreamed up (out of laziness and a desire to create memes rather than an actual need for new words), which is wrong.

People say the English language is evolving, and that is true. However, on the Internet, it is devolving.

inb4elitism

[Pho3n1x]

Fail thread

[WarCry]

I will write Merriam-Webster to get fail changed to a noun, based on popular usage.

It worked for "meh".

[Narfle]

Hey dude! Stop hogging the fail, other people need fail also, wtf.

I cant understand why the people of the earth accepts the fact that 1% of the people has more than 80% of the fail.

NEVER HEARD OF KARL SCOUT? SHARE THE FAIL?

There are people living completely without fail, and you have so much fail. Youre a horrible person for not sharing, you know that?

And if you dont want to share your fail with other people because its too much work, then stfu, theres NGOs that will distribute the fail for you, to the lesser fortunate.

Just make sure to check their business model and pay attention to how much fail they use for administration and how much fail they actually distribute.

I.. i... I cant believe you have this much fail and dont share... Hitler was a bad person, but YOU are going to hell.

[Marylinn]

Mods, lock this and future POS threads that resemble it.

[Narfle]

Mods, lock this and future POS threads that resemble it.

That, and permaban any JAC member. Also from the game.

Hey, if you can randomly order staff around, so can i, at least im male!

[Marylinn]

Haha, sexism. Man, you're just full of original content, aren't you? Failmore, please.

[Lamer883]

now that is just mean.

the 'at least im male' part

[Narfle]

Haha, sexism. Man, you're just full of original content, aren't you? Failmore, please.

as said by a female tryhard trying extra hard

Get it?

the probability is low, so i doubt it. Statistically theres about 8541% larger chance of the combined scientific community being convinced of the existence of God, than you "getting it".

Get it?

[magnakaser]

@ magnakaser: Hey me, I know that stuff!

Would be lost on about 95% of this thread, however. However, I suspect you're using those terms to defend the phrases and lexis the Internet collective has dreamed up (out of laziness and a desire to create memes rather than an actual need for new words), which is wrong.

People say the English language is evolving, and that is true. However, on the Internet, it is devolving.

inb4elitism

Thinkin' it's devolving is your opinion, many dudes would think it's becomin' streamlined.

Fact is, in any field they use words in all sorts of words in ways no one else does, the internet is no different. And making that ironic statement at the end don't change nothin, binky-boy.

[Viole]

wow

ur a idiot

[Narfle]

its "ur and idiot" you moran, get a brian plese ok?

[Marylinn]

Look at how hard the tryhard is trying.

[Lamer883]

those memes that i dont understand

are forced memes

[cute]

wow

ur a idiot
"Wow, you're an idiet."
Is correct.

[Narfle]

Look at how hard the tryhard is trying.

Look at how the supposedly female is failing logical deduction by using incorrect assumptions.

god damnit, yet another awesome post without trying! Im so awesome, well compared to you i am at least. I should buy you to stand next to me and speak, so i could look ultra intelligent by saying "derp de derp".

How much do your owner want for you?

[Viole]

its "ur and idiot" you moran, get a brian plese ok?

i actually know someone named brian

[Narfle]

i actually know someone named brian

How is brians life?

Tell us all about the life of brian.

[maarte1]

How is brians life?

Tell us all about the life of brian.

My signature holds the key.

[Narfle]

Wrong movie sir :/

Right group, wrong movie. But you most likely know that.

Fetches le cow?

[Viole]

How is brians life?

Tell us all about the life of brian.

Big white crests rising and falling, glistening in the summer African sun. Surging and receding, surging and receding. The occasional thunderous crash, churning up the sandy shore and driving the stumbling, screaming swimmers down to the ground. Limbs flailing, gasping for air, clutching their eyes to clear the stinging salt water. A few adjustments to their bathing suits returns their fleetingly dignified composure and then back they go. These are Brian's memories of summertime at the beach. For a child, the beach is more than a place to go, it's a giant world of dreams, fantasy and awe. Sandcastles become giant forts and mighty kingdoms at war with the gods of the crashing waves. Rocks and shells transform into treasures of immeasurable value. Each one in his collection instantly adds to his wealth and influence among his contemporaries. Let's not forget the crabs and fish and the occasional washed up jellyfish, that gets poked and flipped and tortured in other unimaginable ways. A day at the ocean, is a day in wonderland. Brian's family went away every summer for a couple of weeks down to the coast. As kids, he thought it was a perfectly normal thing that all families did. It always came as a huge surprise if ever he came across anyone who had never been to the ocean. I mean, where have you been! Seriously. It's something Brian appreciates very much now, as the last time his wife and himself spent even 9 days at the ocean was five years ago. Even now though, the magical draw of the ocean is still as strong as it was back then. It's as if the moment you feel the sand beneath your feet and take a deep breath of the ocean air, you've escaped. Escaped into a parallel universe where life takes on a different form and meaning. The stretch of ocean that we frequented was quite a treacherous one. Rip tides, under currents and deep gullies were the order of the day. Brian strains to remember a summer where he didn't witness an ocean rescue, a few of those not successful. The sickening feeling you get as you hear the helicopter blades chopping through the air. The sand covered, sun burnt group gathered around on the beach.

[Minimix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cilLKufYOhE&feature=PlayList&p=scXE3KeNimk&index=6

[grohn]

I chuckled.
Excellent thread; would read again.
Above sentence is fragment.

[Lazystallio1]

Oh, not a thread about songs or lure huh? that makes sense.
/sigh, gaston thanks for pointing out the least relevant thing on my post and trying to make a rebuttal, but please stick to the main point when you're trying to argue against me, i don't like useless arguments.
If you're trying to teach internet people real english without the use of any slang, and use slang, hows that look on your part?
example : you tell your mom that drinking is bad, and that she shouldnt do it cuz blahblahblah.. WHILE drinking yourself. I think the word is discreditability.
and i didn't really sound smart at all, just logical.
I hope this made sense for you next time you try and argue against others.

And yes, equivalent to fail thread. Dyou want to know why? It's called categorizing comparatives correctly. (actually i don't know what its called but this sounds fine, you can't compare an orange to an apple when all we talk about are apples.)
Because you used "troll" in its slang it's only common sense to use "fail" in its slang, but i mean if you were actually talking about "troll" for what it actually is, then i'm wrong.