Start lifting naow!

[a_cloth]

I'm sure a vast majority of HON players are skinny high school kids who have never touched a weight in there life.

Well this is the original cookie cutter workout routine for newbies

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/The_Starting_Strength_Novice/Beginner_Programs

You can follow that, but I advise you read my friends alternative that he made. It's a little more in depth and answers all your noob weightlifting questions.

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Kethnaabs_Program

The rest of the site is also and invaluable resource to newbies wanting to get big.

You won't get big if you don't have nutrition.

Sorry "enlightened" football captain, enjoy useless weights when you eat Mc Donalds on the side.


http://www.youtube.com/user/scooby1961?blend=1&ob=4
Is better for learning how to REALLY get big.

[TomKat]

I hope that somewhere on that guide it mentions "Order a Large Dominos Pepperoni Passion" otherwise my training regime is going horribly wrong... :(

[JOSHPFANBOY]

dont want to be a huge muscle guy, would be disgusted with myself

in fit looking shape is better imo

[a_cloth]

You won't get big if you don't have nutrition.

Sorry "enlightened" football captain, enjoy useless weights when you eat Mc Donalds on the side.


http://www.youtube.com/user/scooby1961?blend=1&ob=4
Is better for learning how to REALLY get big.
site cover nutrition as well

[a_cloth]

dont want to be a huge muscle guy, would be disgusted with myself

in fit looking shape is better imo

this is the ignorance im trying to solve. 9 months of working out will put you in normal good looking shape with decent muscle. Guys don't get ridiculously big till year 2-3.

there no reason not to work out for 9 months and get in great shape then just maintain that weight.

This is an example of were the first 9 months of training can get you (you can most likely grow even more than this in the 9 months)

Any women who tells you guys with muscles are unattractive is either too ugly to get a decent looking guy or has never fuked a decently built guy.

http://mackademic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/andrei.jpg

[RogerDodger]

there no reason not to work out for 9 months and get in great shape then just maintain that weight.
Other than the effort and time spent

[a_cloth]

Other than the effort and time spent

Its literally 30 min to 1 hour 3 times a week. Thats sacrificing 3 games of HON a week.

You must be shitting me.

[Sinestro]

a_cloth, don't bother.

In 5 years, when the same 14 year olds who have been eating garbage their entire life drinking 10 sodas a day have their metabolism slllllllllllllllllllllllllllow the **** down and the blimp up 40-60 pounds over a year, they'll go "DAMNIT WHY DIDNT I GET INTO A GOOD HABBIT BACK WHEN IT WAS EASIER TO FORM HABBITS!"

Speaking from personal experience here. I went from lean and toned 180 to fat and flabby 240 around my 19-21st birthday. Dropped back to 200 cause I started running (well, started walking at first, then jogging, now its running) and watching what I eat, I'll be damned if I'm gonna have a heart attack in 3 years cause my arteries are clogged.

[a_cloth]

a_cloth, don't bother.

In 5 years, when the same 14 year olds who have been eating garbage their entire life drinking 10 sodas a day have their metabolism slllllllllllllllllllllllllllow the **** down and the blimp up 40-60 pounds over a year, they'll go "DAMNIT WHY DIDNT I GET INTO A GOOD HABBIT BACK WHEN IT WAS EASIER TO FORM HABBITS!"

Speaking from personal experience here. I went from lean and toned 180 to fat and flabby 240 around my 19-21st birthday. Dropped back to 200 cause I started running (well, started walking at first, then jogging, now its running) and watching what I eat, I'll be damned if I'm gonna have a heart attack in 3 years cause my arteries are clogged.

start lifting, the more muscle you have the more it passively eats away at your calories, ultimately you will be burning more fat opposed to just running.

[Nuk_Duck]

Just because it happened to you doesn't mean you have to reassure yourself that it happens to everyone else, because it doesn't.

I went from thin and strong to... thin and strong.

[cute]

eww id hate to have muscles
:/

[JOSHPFANBOY]

no no no.

im talking about the massive massive guys.

[cute]

http://mackademic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/andrei.jpg
as a girl i can safely tell you i wouldnt touch that, he scares me

[a_cloth]

Just because it happened to you doesn't mean you have to reassure yourself that it happens to everyone else, because it doesn't.

I went from thin and strong to... thin and strong.

If your body doesn't grow muscle when you lift, then you have a genetic disorder. so yes weightlifting isnt for the genetically fuked up

[a_cloth]

as a girl i can safely tell you i wouldnt touch that, he scares me

thats not even that jacked, and i can assume that if your a girl and you play HON that your in no way attractive and therefor fit into my theory.

Thank you for the further proof

[cute]

thats not even that jacked, and i can assume that if your a girl and you play HON that your in no way attractive and therefor fit into my theory.

Thank you for the further proof
did you look at his face? hes creepy and weird looking + has a lame beard

and you can assume nothing

[Nuk_Duck]

If your body doesn't grow muscle when you lift, then you have a genetic disorder. so yes weightlifting isnt for the genetically fuked up

I was talking to the guy above you.

[a_cloth]

I was talking to the guy above you.
my bad dawg

[magnakaser]

Lifted for a semester in uni 'cause the gym was free and stuff and one of my buds was always *****ing about going alone. Ain't got the time, energy or money now for that bullshit. I'd rather spend the gym money on things like electricity bills and food and spend my free time doing things like sleeping.

Also, you have some sort of complex thinkin' all gals who think a musclebound dude ain't hot ain't hot themselves, bud. Why don't you have a seat and we can talk about it for a while.

[Lamer883]

i can lift my mouse 200 times

[magnakaser]

Studies have also shown that women are attracted to other things about males too, one that was most interesting to read was greater variance between their genetics!

So basically, women (and probably men, too) are hard-wired to seek out men who are genetically different from them. How does this occur? Body scent! They did a study where they got like 15 dude's scents and had women smell them without telling them what they were. They just told them to smell the **** and say if it was nice or not.

The result? Women tended to dislike the scents of dudes very close to them genetically, and actually LIKE the scents of people who are genetically different. This would mean that if you were a muscly white dude, some white chick would like the smell of a gangly asian dude more than you. Interesting!

But in all seriousness some chicks put octopi on their heads and do people in animal suits, so don't go makin' these generalizations.

Now, I think as a kid you got turned down by some girl and blamed it on your puniness and then started this body building vendetta. T/f?

[Reonhato]

Its genetic, women are naturally attracted to stronger males. Its not just humans that are like that either

but how do you define stronger. sure you might be able to lift heavier stuff but what about that 5 foot chinese guy who runs circles around you as you try and haul your inflexible hulk of muscle in a fight.

physical strength does not equal strong

[Reonhato]

why spend 3 hours a week working out when i can spend that 3 hours eating delicious mouth watering chicken

if you like working out, go ahead work out but please dont tell those of us who enjoy other things in life to do it.

[Reonhato]

http://news.makemeheal.com/images/george-clooney-before-eyelid-surgery.jpg

thats a handsome man

[a_cloth]

Really missing out on those music majors... they have skills.

I've played guitar for 8 years and i'm not even interested in a music major. Don't think im missing out on learning much from them lol

[Hash]

no woman woudl be attracted to bill gates that guy is nerdy as ehll

[a_cloth]

no woman woudl be attracted to bill gates that guy is nerdy as ehll
id hit it

perfect body/perfect personality/perfect morals < 85 billion dollars

[cute]

If she doesn't look down upon it then my point is made.

I can care less if some fugly chick thinks im an assh0le.



Women have openly admitted to me that assh0les are more attractive, its also been proved time and time again to be true


so shes pretty much calling me attractive if she calls me an ass
wow your ego is off the charts
let me make it clear:
i think you are very stupid and childish, i do not find your behaivour attractive in any way kindly stop being a ****ing moron and either prove your claim or be the man you say you are and admit you are wrong

[Chavo]

Play nice guys

[a_cloth]

but how do you define stronger. sure you might be able to lift heavier stuff but what about that 5 foot chinese guy who runs circles around you as you try and haul your inflexible hulk of muscle in a fight.

physical strength does not equal strong


Strength is defined by how much weight can be moved without failure


Power is defined by using the velocity at which the weight moved to calculate the joules of force exerted.

[Cop]

holy **** its chavo

[Hash]

there are weight lifters

and then there are the weight lifter nerds

[Annearekey]

w/e you kids are just jealous of a_cloth because hes jacked.

[War_Mech]

holy **** its chavo
I said (thought) the same thing. Mods sure are focused here :eek:

[a_cloth]

wow your ego is off the charts
let me make it clear:
i think you are very stupid and childish, i do not find your behaivour attractive in any way kindly stop being a ****ing moron and either prove your claim or be the man you say you are and admit you are wrong


all your doing is further proving my theory of ugly women using these non realistic excuses at to why there not dating the guy they wish they were with.


This has also been proved in other theorems that state people date those who are as attractive as they are.

Seeing as your a basement dwelling ugly HON player it only makes sense that these men of higher physical acceptance would seem out of reach. However instead of admitting them as out of reach you slap on the label of uninterested or pick out small things about them that you don't like so you have an excuse you can keep telling yourself. AKA denial

[Blitzl0l]

In there defense, you posted one of the most grizzly looking, psycho dudes in the world.

I'm known as "the pitbull" doesn't work too well.

[a_cloth]

w/e you kids are just jealous of a_cloth because hes jacked.


I'm bringing sexy baaaaaack

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5352/back1nj.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/back1nj.jpg/)

[War_Mech]

I'm scared...

[Hash]

i guess the concept of "tone" is lost on you

[cute]

all your doing is further proving my theory of ugly women using these non realistic excuses at to why there not dating the guy they wish they were with.


This has also been proved in other theorems that state people date those who are as attractive as they are.

Seeing as your a basement dwelling ugly HON player it only makes sense that these men of higher physical acceptance would seem out of reach. However instead of admitting them as out of reach you slap on the label of uninterested or pick out small things about them that you don't like so you have an excuse you can keep telling yourself. AKA denial
my dream guy wouldnt even be that toned, hed be effeminate and flat stomached and preferably chinese like myself

you dont know what i look like please stop assuming im ugly it is a very bad argument

i do not find heavily toned men to be attractive

also im not in a basement kthx

[JOSHPFANBOY]

work out

take pictures of yourself on your knees flexing and release to internet

im going to stick with the not touching weights thing

[a_cloth]

i guess the concept of "tone" is lost on you

tone is good, but i can promise you would be happier with 20-30 pounds of additional muscle at the same body fat %

If your tone and you havn't worked out then your the prime candidate to start. Your first 3 months of lifting are pretty much equivalent to steroid use. you won't be dissapointed

[Hash]

tone is good, but i can promise you would be happier with 20-30 pounds of additional muscle at the same body fat %

If your tone and you havn't worked out then your the prime candidate to start. Your first 3 months of lifting are pretty much equivalent to steroid use. you won't be dissapointed

no, i would not be happier weighing almost 200 pounds, but thanks

all I need for myself is my two ten pound dumbbells every so often. good exercise and enough strength to make me happy, but i don't look ridiculous like arnold from his early career

[War_Mech]

Your logic is flawless, you should write a novel.

[magnakaser]

how is it possible to deflect ugly girls but still get hit on by hot ones

you should write a book on that, no one has figured that out

Didn't a weird looking bald guy write one?

[cute]

if this is denial then its treating me well =]
it must be, because you really arent attractive i wouldnt give you the time of day based on your looks
also get a better haircut you look gay

[Hash]

new offtopic: serious discussions about being an a$$ geez everyones a slow learner today

guy is just mad because jill wants to get mad rutty with me

[Reonhato]

pic now

nah im just kidding you wont

i already did. didnt you see, im george clooney

[Hash]

im bill nye

[magnakaser]

im bill nye

bill bill bill bill

[cute]

bill nye the science guy!

[sissles]

I'm bringing sexy baaaaaack

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5352/back1nj.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/back1nj.jpg/)


Find me and marry me. k?

[magnakaser]

Did you like Bill Nye or Beakman more? I was always partial to Mr. Wizard, myself.

[Chavo]

There are a select few of you that are demonstrating that you can't handle posting in an appropriate manner. I apologize to those of you that are trying to actually have legitimate discussion for the closure of this thread.