View Full Version : No ture sight on tree sight?
Elarain
07-31-2009, 01:34 PM
Was the only thing I really liked about keeper, that he got free stealth detection. At its best the ability has a 75s CD, and never had a very big range. They are also very visible and cheaply countered with tangos.
Give them back their true sight, and if anything take true sight off the scouts electric eye.
BLUEPOWERVAN
07-31-2009, 01:37 PM
you know they made it so it can see a longer range and no longer be easily countered with tangos? (because you can stick iti n the middle of a cluster of trees
They also added regen, to give back true sight, they'd need to undo the rest of the stuff they did
just give invis heroes more room to play around with. stop showing so much love for invis
Q_Necron
07-31-2009, 01:40 PM
See invisible > regen anyday :(. Granted it don't have to have a 2000 cast range or 600 AoE sight but with all the invisible units it would be nice.
Elarain
07-31-2009, 03:23 PM
you know they made it so it can see a longer range and no longer be easily countered with tangos? (because you can stick iti n the middle of a cluster of trees
They also added regen, to give back true sight, they'd need to undo the rest of the stuff they did
And yet i'd easily trade all of that for the old one anyway.
uranows
07-31-2009, 03:38 PM
They changed a lot in this hero. Not only the true sight but also Keeper is not a tank anymore without Living Armor.
I think it is a role specification change. Before he was a extremely OP supporter (armor/heal/escape/AOE disabler and true sight) and a tank. Now he is just a good ganker.
Changes are fine, let us worry about new heroes and balance issues.
Vesper25
07-31-2009, 03:39 PM
I like how people say that the old Keeper was overpowered or at least a good hero, completely untrue.
Does walking ultimate ring a bell?
Smurfslayer
07-31-2009, 03:40 PM
I disagree, old tree was a much better made hero than new tree
BinAly
07-31-2009, 03:50 PM
I agree. Treant should be returned to his former Glory. Right now, it does a pretty bad job at being a pseudo-DPS/Ganker...
Mindcry
07-31-2009, 05:32 PM
I think Treant is good the way he is.
U guys have to see that... THIS IS NOT DOTA!
Heroes here are diferent, get use to it.
Vesper25
07-31-2009, 05:53 PM
I agree. Treant should be returned to his former Glory. Right now, it does a pretty bad job at being a pseudo-DPS/Ganker...
What are you talking about? His ultimate remains pretty much the same, and his old crappy living armor replaced with a free Relic. Sounds like it makes him a better pseudo-DPS/Ganker than before.
Evilite
07-31-2009, 05:56 PM
The new Keeper of the Forest is SO SO SO boring to play, his invisibility is completely useless, none of his skills synergize together at all (besides stupid invis+ult wwooaahh.)
He needs to be taken out of the game or completely redone. He will never ever ever ever EVER be picked in an -AP game, I guarantee it.
The new Keeper of the Forest is SO SO SO boring to play, his invisibility is completely useless, none of his skills synergize together at all (besides stupid invis+ult wwooaahh.)
He needs to be taken out of the game or completely redone. He will never ever ever ever EVER be picked in an -AP game, I guarantee it.
Synergize? Have they ever synergized?
If anything he has more synergy now than he ever had, because of His grab tree + inivisibility + ultimate
What he had before was a bunch of abilities that gave survivability and flexibility. It's not the same as synergy. Synergy is when several abilities can be used together in unison.
It's not like his old armor had any synergy with his invisibility skill. They were just two different means to add survivability. His eyes in the forest have never had any synergy with any of his other skills. They were just a means to get map control.
ubidat
08-01-2009, 05:41 AM
His synergy was that he was a support hero, and not a dps'er, his armour/heal was oh so nice, and the true sight on eyes is nice too ;p
-ubi
Tyrando
08-01-2009, 06:24 AM
I think Treant is good the way he is.
U guys have to see that... THIS IS NOT DOTA!
Heroes here are diferent, get use to it.
Yes but this game doesnt suck either, so why should the heroes?
china
08-01-2009, 01:20 PM
I think Treant is good the way he is.
U guys have to see that... THIS IS NOT DOTA!
Heroes here are diferent, get use to it.
The carbon copies beg to differ.
When you try to change things, you tend to change things for the better, not merely for the sake of difference. Different & change are not synonymous with good or better.