What is Scout

[Demise_]

I Just played 1 game versing scout. He seems kinda OP, Fast moving, Invis Hero with strong nukes. Does he even have a weakness?

[S2Shade]

People complain constantly about him. I have a feeling a nerf will come in a future patch.

[Kry1]

sage

[Volshok]

He isn't OP, and suffers from a severe lack of late game viability unless farmed very well.

[Hibi1]

No, no weakness. Next time you are against him I suggest standing still and sacrificing yourself.

All sarcasm aside he really is a bad pick in higher level of play. Dust+Stun+Quicknukes = no more scout, but that also requires people who have teamwork and know how to play the game.

[Spawn10459]

his only weakness is being seen. oh wait no that doesnt matter eather.

His ult needs a longer cool down, less damage and less range. his crit chance should be reduced also.

Stunning him works good.

[Hibi1]

I always find it funny when people complain about heros that naturally do well in pub games because of the lack of teamwork and skill.

[Grizzlyman]

i find not being retarded is the best counter to scout
-buy dust/wards
-if he's picked first don't pick heroes he can kill without trying, pick disablers/nukers
-don't run around alone like a tard

[Guile]

annoying since i play potm every time i can and even when he is dusted / slardar ulted etc his stealth makes my arrows go right through :(

[Fliesen]

that's a bug of stealth / phase mechanics ... not of the class itself

[Hoenhime]

as long as you have a competant team and ur not stupid ur good...if the invis annoys u that much get wards or gem, i dont find him that OP

[Isin]

His weakness is that he doesn't work with the team at all other than the wards.

[catamorphist]

His weakness is that he sucks. He's an agility melee hero with poor HP, no farming ability and no escape ability once he's exposed. His only damage-boosting ability is fairly weak, so he does less DPS than most other agility heroes.

The only thing that makes him stand out is a reasonably good high-damage nuke, so the counter is to get a normal amount of HP instead of running around with 800 or 900.

[eisdiele]

No, no weakness. Next time you are against him I suggest standing still and sacrificing yourself.

All sarcasm aside he really is a bad pick in higher level of play. Dust+Stun+Quicknukes = no more scout, but that also requires people who have teamwork and know how to play the game.

well this helps against almost every hero in the game (except dust-.-)

[Isin]

well this helps against almost every hero in the game (except dust-.-)

More so against Scout. By the way, with that post, you just got a 77777 GET. Lucky dick.

[TurpinoS]

If the ennemy team picks scout, pick some pushers, and finish the game in 20 mins by pushin 5v4

[GaIactic]

I always find it funny when people complain about heros that naturally do well in pub games because of the lack of teamwork and skill.

I always find it funnier when people play against him for the first time EVER then start a thread about him in the balance forums...

^_-;

[thep1ng]

Had a funny game with electrician against him... That was kinda funny :D

[Euphoria]

Scout is one of the lowest tier/worst heroes in HoN. He only pub stomps since those are generally players who have no idea how to play anyway so they don't understand balance in regards to a team. His HP is low, his backstab is marginal extra damage, his ultimate is horrible until level 16 where the channeling + cooldown become reasonable. His only use is wards, which pubbies don't get and go crit/evasion at low levels (WTF?) and do horrible builds ---> codex.

If anything he needs a buff since in a decent game he can't last hit a thing and just gets eaten alive.

[Le3t]

Scout is trash. He have nothing to offer to his lane except for a free ward. Only very very very very bad players would think theres a problem with him because they don't know how to counter his invis.

close this thread.

[Vinthian]

Scout in terms of W3 DotA is a Bounty Hunter with a Sniper's nerfed Ult.

Meaning... trash in any competitive games.

[Darkshy]

Scout is an agi hero. Thus he has low HP. Late game you have to either by wards or dusks. Maybe a gem on your tank if he can handle it.

[SuperStanos]

Basically the pub gimmick is a codex/ult spam and with enough hp/wards (not to mention the game going on long) even that turns into garbage very quickly.

[Unclesoppa]

Scout's weakness is that he must stay invisible all the time in the early laning phase, never utilize free wards properly, being rather useless in team battles except for an okay slow, not being a real carry and still getting all the kills with his sweet codex.

He's like NA, but suckier.

[Guile]

that's a bug of stealth / phase mechanics ... not of the class itself

.... obviously

[IKHAN]

Pestilence>scout. Dust+half a brain>scout. Oh **** half a brain, hard to find a team with half a brain in a pub >.< But seriously, just carry dust and stick together, when he pops out to harass dust->stun->kill. He'll QQ and leave.

And almost every teamfight with a scout on a team is 4v5. He's not that scary

[PainCake1]

What is scout?

He's a scout. A character that goes ahead to find out what the other team is doing and gathers info. Scout is pretty useful in that he can put up his Electric Eye? (2nd skill) near the runes, allowing your team to have pretty good rune control. With a bottle he's a good early game ganker if you can time a double backstab with a damage rune. Later on find nifty places to put up the wards so you can have more team map awareness or anticipate where someone runs and reduce the fog so they cant outrun your ult. Obviously he can be countered.

But...scout is a scout.

[UnholyHero]

He is just gondar , and his ultimate is so ****ing easy to cancel , just use the fog.Paper hero.

[Kien2]

Vs noobs he's OP, vs good players he's nearly useless

[Colinthetank]

Scout is trash. He have nothing to offer to his lane except for a free ward. Only very very very very bad players would think theres a problem with him because they don't know how to counter his invis.

close this thread.

Bingo, Scout is useless in most team battles. Low HP, no aoe attacks, he was 1 slow and it takes multiple seconds to work and can be somewhat easily dodged.

[twincannon]

What is Scout?
Baby don't gank me
don't gank me
no more

[Ungalyant]

I think the easiest way to nerf scout fairly would be to simply make the mana cost of all his spells 150% of what they are now, just enough to make it so he can't constantly spam his ulti and stealth without needing some good first items to provide the necessary mana.

[ClownFoot]

this is just rediculous. how can so many people have trouble with scout? there is only 2 things that can happen if there is a scout in your game:

1. a free kill. seriously, all you need to do is play a hero that can reveal invis heroes(pest, arachna), and its gg for scout. or you can pick up some dust/wards/bound eye. if you have trouble killing him after that, then you are terrible, and no amount of nerfing scout will make you any better at this game

2. he will go 15-0, but his team will still lose because scout is a crappy hero played by crappy players who contribute nothing to their team and, as a result, give the other team a huge advantage

[pedobearpig]

id take BH over scout any day of the week.

[THE_SPOOKY]

Pick electrician, lane against him with a nuker, and laugh your way to the bank. Or pick any hero at all, and slap him around like a girl with your lanemate for the first 15 minutes of the game--that's my favorite.

[tddvisme]

let me say about his skills
1st: invi : long time, quite short cds, deal extra dmg ( it is like wind walk of bone but have extra dmg)
2nd: ward : this is like the skill eye in the forest of treant, but it don't have to target on a tree, larger radius, not easy to destroy the ward if the player control scout is good
3rd: dodge+ crit : like 3 rd skill of BH
4rd: really imba skill : long range, low cds, nice dmg, nice slow skill. it is like sniper ulti but it make the target slower => omg :|
high ms, nice animation, nice stats gain.
=> what do U think :|

Lol, i can't believe people are crying about Scouts, when i see enemy team pick a scout, i just pick Pestilence to be an *******:D Seriously, sometimes they even pick Scout AND Nighthound, i mean, bbq! But i have played Scout as well and i gotta say, i love these people who run around with no +health items as int/agi heroes, i LOVE them. 3 int 2 agi heroes in opposite team and i scored 31-0. Then they conceded:(

Nighthound and Scout on opposite team and i scored 15-0 with Pestilence because match got over quickly:P Just exploit their strengths, not their weaknesses:P

[gOOp]

I believe people say "just do this just do that" Sure everything is awesome in theory, but you probably wont find scout in invis (with ward/dust) without his teammates closeby, probably ruining ur ass while you try to ruin scouts.

Every hero dies easily in 5v1, but in your calculation of "Pwning the scout" you leave out that he also gets backup from his team, aye?

[basket1]

scout isn't over powered at all. if he farms buy gem rape him.

[_Wolf_]

I Just played 1 game versing scout. He seems kinda OP, Fast moving, Invis Hero with strong nukes. Does he even have a weakness?

his fast because his invis gives him extra speed boost, apply that with enhances marchers and slash, you hvae a deadly scout >.>

His only real nuke is his bow which can take 25-35% hp from ya, but thats mainly at lvl 4.

[GaIactic]

I think the easiest way to nerf scout fairly would be to simply make the mana cost of all his spells 150% of what they are now, just enough to make it so he can't constantly spam his ulti and stealth without needing some good first items to provide the necessary mana.

Except he doesn't need a nerf unless you suck. Period.

^_-;