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Hyaenodon
01-05-2010, 06:23 PM
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde ( Alchemist Port)

http://www.bruceglidewell.com/images/hyde.jpghttp://www.bruceglidewell.com/images/jeckyll.jpg

Speed: 300
Range: Melee
Affiliation: Hellbourne
Primary Stat: STR

Sound and Visual Design
Exactly like the picture

Story
coming soon..

Role
tanking/supportive/semi-dps/semi-carry

Stats
STR: 25 + 1.9
AGI: 11 + 1.2
INT: 25 + 1.8

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammeronline/images/7/76/Tactic_Green_Vortex.png
Smoke bomb
Dr Jekyll always carries a bomb filled with smoke that he collects from his backpack fusion pistol
exhaust

He casts a smoke bomb to a targeted area which makes all enemies in that same area take mixed damage
per second and have their armor reduced.

1.8 damage/second, reduces armor by 3
2.16 damage/second, reduces armor by 4
3.24 damage/second, reduces armor by 5
4.32 damage/second, reduces armor by 6

Mana cost:160

Cooldown:22

Casting range:900

AoE:775

Duration:16

Balance:made it a 1:1 copy of Acid Spray

Visual: Jekyll throws a cask of smoke to an area , pretty much the same as acid dough this is smoke

Notes:
Damage type: mixed
This ability can hit magic immune units.
The actual AoE of this ability is significantly larger than the visual effect.

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Fusion Gun
His latest work the fusion gun takes some time to activate

He charges his fusion pistol for 5 seconds each second increasing the guns potency, after 5 seconds
a small smoke puff appears and if Jekyll doesn't fire the gun soon after he will suffer the same
damage and stun like he was hit. The beam can blow in mid air if fired too late.

1.Up to 150 damage and 1 second stun
2.Up to 200 damage and 2 second stun
3.Up to 250 damage and 3 second stun
4.Up to 300 damage and 4 second stun

Mana cost:90

Cooldown:16

Casting range:775

Duration:5

Balance:i made this a 1:1 copy of the 6.65v change.I think its way more fun

Visual:While charging Jekyll backpack just starts to rumble and smoke starts to pour from the small valves and everything just starts to overload. When the launch phase begins Jekyll takes the gun and
fires it in mid air.

Notes:
Damage type: physical
While charging the gun, Jekyll can still move around and take action.
A timer above Jekyll's head will indicate the remaining charging time on the gun.
Before launching the beam, it will blow up if channeled for more than 7 seconds, checking at 0.5 second
intervals (allows up to 7.5 seconds charge time)
After launching the concoction, it will blow up 7 seconds after charging started, checking every 0.02 seconds.
The beam moves at 900 speed, and provides 400/400 sight range.
If the beam explodes mid air, it will affect an enemy unit within 200 AoE around its position.
Beam is blocked by Null Stone .

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Droid
Another one of Jekyll's projects

A small droid that can be used like a courier that also picks runes that can only be used Dr Jekyll.
1.Movement speed:250 HP:100 Has an inventory
2.Movement speed:300 HP:125 Has an inventory
3.Movement speed:350 HP:150 Has an inventory and can pick up runes
4.Movement speed:400 HP:175 Has an inventory and can pick up runes

Mana cost:150

Cooldown:120

Balance:I think this will go well with the whole concept and i think a great gameplay bonus

Visual:same like the picture

Notes:
Has the return home and deliver as well as "Extract rune" feature
He cannot carry a bottle

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The Hyde potion
Dr Jekyll drinks the potion and unleashes Mr Hyde

This increases his BAT cooldown as well as giving him increased HP and HP regeneration, improves MS also
Descriptors: [ ]
1.Mana cost:50 1.45 BAT, 350 Bonus HP, and 15 HP/3 Mana Bonus Regeneration, +30 Movespeed
2.Mana cost:100 1.35 BAT, 700 Bonus HP, and 30 HP/7.5 Mana Bonus Regeneration, +40 Movespeed
3.Mana cost:150 1.20 BAT, 1050 Bonus HP, and 60 HP/12 Mana Bonus Regeneration, +60 Movespeed

Cooldown:120

Duration:35

Balance:I compensated the duration with the transformation time

Visual:Jekyll starts to shake and transform into Hyde at the end he rips his clothes off and his muscular figure just pops out enraged

Notes:
Has a 2.0 second transformation time.

Mootiny
01-06-2010, 02:15 AM
First comment (:.
Great idea, always liked the idea of the Alchemist but always thought he needed some changes. Especially liked the droid idea.
T-up

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 03:58 AM
Thanks a lot for your support!

IMMvp
01-06-2010, 05:13 AM
The fonts... kill... me

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 05:24 AM
The fonts... kill... me
i think its better now...:)

IMMvp
01-06-2010, 05:29 AM
yay ill read it now :D

MlSTERD
01-06-2010, 05:44 AM
i like this idea mainly because my buddies and I were discussing on how alchemist should be ported over and we though of Hulk version as well as Dr Jekyll and Hyde however he would'nt make sense for hulk to use acid spray or the channeling stun lol

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 07:05 AM
Thanks mate!

HamsterXD
01-06-2010, 07:44 AM
lol the idea is a very good 1 for alchemist, but honestly i cant imagine Dr Jekkyl or Mr Hyde in a war in HoN against Hag or war beast of Mali...it'll look so wrong..

But T-UP for the idea tho =D

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 08:25 AM
lol the idea is a very good 1 for alchemist, but honestly i cant imagine Dr Jekkyl or Mr Hyde in a war in HoN against Hag or war beast of Mali...it'll look so wrong..

But T-UP for the idea tho =D

Thanks for support but there are heroes like Zephyr and Electrician, so i cant see why Jekyll cant be in the game...

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 11:39 AM
Bump!

War_Mech
01-06-2010, 11:57 AM
Cool idea of a hero for alchemist, T-up, droid seems fine.

innorruck
01-06-2010, 12:28 PM
Great idea. 1 Vote for you!!!!

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 01:15 PM
Thanks guys!

Hyaenodon
01-06-2010, 08:59 PM
bump!

GoukenN
01-06-2010, 09:55 PM
We need mores gankers/roamers in hon, T-UP

Hyaenodon
01-07-2010, 06:11 AM
bump!

Hyaenodon
01-07-2010, 06:31 PM
Bump!

Dario93
01-07-2010, 06:51 PM
nice port ^^ i never liked the gold ability of alchi and so a rune picking courir is nice^^ (with this he is a nice midlaner :D xD )

Hyaenodon
01-08-2010, 11:24 AM
Thanks a lot!

keith
01-08-2010, 11:31 AM
Dont like the droid, I'd like a different alchemist idea. Not quite as alchemistic, different concept here. I'm not voting, as this idea is not bad, but neither good in my eyes.

Kalk5
01-08-2010, 04:52 PM
gj !! nothing to add just gj

EspritFort
01-08-2010, 05:04 PM
Font. Still killing.

Hyaenodon
01-08-2010, 07:09 PM
Thanks for ure support ! I know i screwed up the font!

EspritFort
01-08-2010, 08:45 PM
Thanks for ure support ! I know i screwed up the font!

So... do you plan on fixing it?
I mean, honestly I'd like to read your post, but at the moment it is extremely unpleasent.

Hyaenodon
01-09-2010, 12:53 PM
So... do you plan on fixing it?
I mean, honestly I'd like to read your post, but at the moment it is extremely unpleasent.
What is the default font? Can u help he on that? And when i change size it becomes unreadable!

Hyaenodon
01-09-2010, 09:03 PM
bump!

TheWh0
01-10-2010, 10:27 PM
I won't T-Down because I like the concept, but I think it needs a little more work before I'll T-UP/Down, to be fair.

I'm not saying that Droid isn't useful in some aspects but I think that having a courier as a skill isn't nearly powerful enough; Wildsoul's Beardulon (Booboo!) is exactly the same thing AND roots, does damage, and can kill towers.
I would suggest implementing a passive; since your STR hero already has 2 active abilities. You could also make the Droid invisible (which would give him a scouting element).

I also feel you could do something more interesting with the ulti; maybe instead of just buffing him you could give Mr. Hyde a whole new skill set he gets to exploit for the duration. Like for instance instead of Fusion Gun Mr. Hyde would get a melee stun that does damage and stuns for close to the same duration (probably 2-3 seconds like Dragon Knight from DotA). Just a suggestion; you don't have to use it but I would take it into consideration because you could do a lot with an idea like that IMO.
Also, if your heart is set on the Droid, maybe when you transform into Mr. Hyde, if the Droid is within 600 AoE, he leaps onto Mr. Hyde's back and provides stat bonuses or attack buffs, etc during the duration of the transformation. In your concept art it kind of looks like the droid has chemicals he could inject Mr. Hyde with.

Sorry this reply was longer than I anticipated haha but I really like this idea.

EspritFort
01-10-2010, 11:45 PM
What is the default font? Can u help he on that? And when i change size it becomes unreadable!

I think it's Palatino, but honestly - any other font than Impact will just do fine :rolleyes:

MrSmith
01-11-2010, 01:15 PM
Damn nice suggestion...but i think Fusion Gun would be a bit overpowered. A 4 sek stun with a cast range of 775 :s

Hyaenodon
01-11-2010, 01:22 PM
I won't T-Down because I like the concept, but I think it needs a little more work before I'll T-UP/Down, to be fair.

I'm not saying that Droid isn't useful in some aspects but I think that having a courier as a skill isn't nearly powerful enough; Wildsoul's Beardulon (Booboo!) is exactly the same thing AND roots, does damage, and can kill towers.
I would suggest implementing a passive; since your STR hero already has 2 active abilities. You could also make the Droid invisible (which would give him a scouting element).

I also feel you could do something more interesting with the ulti; maybe instead of just buffing him you could give Mr. Hyde a whole new skill set he gets to exploit for the duration. Like for instance instead of Fusion Gun Mr. Hyde would get a melee stun that does damage and stuns for close to the same duration (probably 2-3 seconds like Dragon Knight from DotA). Just a suggestion; you don't have to use it but I would take it into consideration because you could do a lot with an idea like that IMO.
Also, if your heart is set on the Droid, maybe when you transform into Mr. Hyde, if the Droid is within 600 AoE, he leaps onto Mr. Hyde's back and provides stat bonuses or attack buffs, etc during the duration of the transformation. In your concept art it kind of looks like the droid has chemicals he could inject Mr. Hyde with.

Sorry this reply was longer than I anticipated haha but I really like this idea.
Thanks for ure beautiful feedback ! Ill consider each and every of ure ideas!

Hyaenodon
01-11-2010, 01:25 PM
Damn nice suggestion...but i think Fusion Gun would be a bit overpowered. A 4 sek stun with a cast range of 775 :s well its the same as alchemists ill consider it.

Nice man...I like ur idea ^^ Thanks mate

I think it's Palatino, but honestly - any other font than Impact will just do fine :rolleyes:I think i did it this time;)

Hyaenodon
01-13-2010, 11:26 AM
bump!

EspritFort
01-14-2010, 11:53 AM
I think i did it this time;)

Thanks for the cleanup.

Hyaenodon
01-16-2010, 10:16 AM
bump!

Hyaenodon
01-18-2010, 05:26 PM
bump! Comments please!

Hyaenodon
01-23-2010, 05:58 PM
Bump!

AmiEsiM
01-23-2010, 08:07 PM
i will vote for this!! ill miss goblins greed a lil tho.. he was godly farmer with with.. stack creeps and goblins greed ftw!

NaaP
01-23-2010, 08:57 PM
i love the droid idea, maybe if you add an passive to it, something like, if someone kills it, it explodes and deals some damage.

dunno, just an idea (:

H_Mantis
01-24-2010, 09:34 AM
T-uppage.

camsnose
01-24-2010, 01:36 PM
I don't think the courier is good for HoN to be honest. I think that, mixed with his weak first move would make this Hero get roflstomped.

Hyaenodon
02-02-2010, 06:22 PM
bump!

H_Mantis
02-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Put this in populars now.

Josway
02-02-2010, 10:10 PM
great idea man and illustrations are sick!

VoidMonkey
02-03-2010, 04:11 AM
Nice idea! Definately a T-UP!

I suppose by you saying that the droid cannot carry a bottle, means that he cannot use a bottle? If he couldn't carry one, for bottle runs and such, I think people would ignore this ability and buy a courier instead... just wondering!

Also, does his ult silence him while it's in effect? I can't really see Mr. Hyde pulling out a fusion pistol or throwing a smoke grenade... again, just wondering! :D

Now lets get him ingame!

H_Mantis
02-03-2010, 06:58 AM
Nice idea! Definately a T-UP!

I suppose by you saying that the droid cannot carry a bottle, means that he cannot use a bottle? If he couldn't carry one, for bottle runs and such, I think people would ignore this ability and buy a courier instead... just wondering!

Also, does his ult silence him while it's in effect? I can't really see Mr. Hyde pulling out a fusion pistol or throwing a smoke grenade... again, just wondering! :D

Now lets get him ingame!
As I recall, Alchemist can use his bottle and acid bomb even when ulted up. So Mr. Hyde could probably do the same.

Put this in populars NOW!! It has already qualified for the criteria.

Hyaenodon
02-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Droid cannot carry a bottle...thanks for pointing that out mate...^^
I don't know why the poll for my hero has been closed...I have just noticed that...I thought that people didn't want to vote for my concept!
I am demanding an answer now!

PS Thanks for your support guys!

H_Mantis
02-03-2010, 08:36 PM
Droid cannot carry a bottle...thanks for pointing that out mate...^^
I don't know why the poll for my hero has been closed...I have just noticed that...I thought that people didn't want to vote for my concept!
I am demanding an answer now!

PS Thanks for your support guys!

The poll closed because you gave it timed life. If you didn't give any specific day of expiry, it wouldn't have.

Love to the Alchemist. Yay for Dr. Jekyll!

Torguish
02-04-2010, 02:49 AM
gimmeh alchemist nao! (Make the droid explode creating that poison cloud he has :3) I like it tho :D

T-up. WE NEED ALCHEMIST!

Check out aresiel plez..

Hyaenodon
02-04-2010, 10:34 AM
I love ure concepts guys! Aseriel is very innovative and Birch is a hit!
Voted for them!

FlashFry
02-04-2010, 02:12 PM
I thought of the same thing a while back using Jekyll and Hyde as a skin for an alchemist port, but I like the way you made it. For the bot I thought you could make it more like the invis units that Nerubian Weaver used to have. Maybe allow multiple to spawn and give them invis, fast walking, a small inventory, and it would increase his support mid and late game.

OhBob
02-04-2010, 06:32 PM
4 damage? It was 32 on Alch. Second is weaker than Alch's too (also, two skills exactly the same as in DotA is almost a dead thread for s2 staff). Third really, really sucks, I have to say that. A courier costs 200 gold, compare this to any other skill in the whole game.

Against all the other really, really weak skills here we got a freaking overpowered ult. 2100 HP heal and 430 Mana along with all the great bonus stuff?!??! Ult is the only think usefull for the hero (needs a nerf anyway). Review all the other skills.

OhBob
02-04-2010, 06:33 PM
I just CAN'T vote yes for a hero that has three abilities, a courier doesn't count as one.

Can't figure out why people already voted.

H_Mantis
02-05-2010, 04:22 AM
I love ure concepts guys! Aseriel is very innovative and Birch is a hit!
Voted for them!
Thanks, but I don't think Birch is a hit. >.<

If it were, it'd launch itself out of Hero Suggestions and into Populars. :<
Thanks anyway. :3

Bauglir
03-26-2010, 02:21 PM
Love him!

JT`
03-27-2010, 04:55 AM
i loved playing alchemist in DotA and would love to be able to play him in HoN.

But one thing bothered me. The fact that runes are usually the most useful in the beginning of the game, it should be the other way around.

Droid Level 1:
Rather slow momentspeed, 1 inv slot, able to pick up runes.
Level 2:
Higher momentspeed, 3 inv slot, able to pick up runes.
Level 3:
Flying courier momentspeed, 6 inv slots, able to pick up runes.
Level 4:
Same momentspeed, speed increase skill, mana to use it twice. 6 slots, able to take runes.

This would make it able to either pick up runes or run items but to slow to do both in the beginning so you would have to make a choice.
At level 4 you could use it for scouting, runerunning, itemrunning and so on.

At level 2 you get better momentspeed and some more slots making it more useful for itemrunning.