Countering swiftblade's ult

[Vodka]

Swift's ult usually destroys people in 1v1 situations (jungling, solo gank etc), so I've been trying to think of ways to negate that advantage of his.

Some ideas:
-buy cyclone stick and use it on yourself after he casts his ult, it should interrupt it if there's nothing else around. (Haven't tested yet).
-Null stone/Linken's should block it.

Any other ideas?

[Nuk_Duck]

Hm. I think my revolutionary concept will amaze this world and I will be outcasted for having such an advanced mind or I will be dissected for analysis.

Stay near creeps.

[Lionguild]

Not sure if this works but if you go up a hill to cut line of sight it can stop swifts ult right there. I know it did this in dota (or was it changed?)

[Kazie]

Not sure if this works but if you go up a hill to cut line of sight it can stop swifts ult right there. I know it did this in dota (or was it changed?)
I don't think there's enough time between attacks to actually get out of LOS

[Harrypotte2]

Assassins shroud.

[majik]

In dota afaik when you had blade mail active, it reflected the damage back to him so if you have more hp then him, you would have a better chance.

[Vodka]

Hm. I think my revolutionary concept will amaze this world and I will be outcasted for having such an advanced mind or I will be dissected for analysis.

Stay near creeps.

ahem, 1v1 situations. That is, assuming you can't get near creeps.

[EnragedCamel]

Any sort of invisibility or blink-type skill will break swift's ult.

1: pick armadon
2: turn your back to face him
3: kill that jerk.

[Nuk_Duck]

ahem, 1v1 situations. That is, assuming you can't get near creeps.

If you can't get to creeps then run to neuts!
Kidding.

Beyond not putting yourself in that situation my best idea is getting Assassin's Shroud

[EnragedCamel]

Portal Key.

[Volshok]

Portal Key.

...is disabled once omni starts. On a side note; WHispering helm + bring some creeps along to eat extra slashes, or rock a puzzlebox.

[EnragedCamel]

...is disabled once omni starts.

That was not my experience.

[ToxicHobo]

Ghost scepter port would be nice

[Limi]

Not sure if this works but if you go up a hill to cut line of sight it can stop swifts ult right there. I know it did this in dota (or was it changed?)The first attack of his ulti will always land correctly, beyond that however... :)

[Miraclelol]

Portal Key.

Pretty sure each omnislash has a ministun.

[Miraclelol]

^Oh god my bad, I thought you meant homecoming stone*** which wouldn't work, cuz it'd be ministunned.

But portal key still wouldn't work, because you can't take damage within 3 secs (?) to use the key anyways.

[Darkstrand]

Don't enter places without vision if you can't see where Swiftblade is on the map.

If you're laning against him, stay near the creeps at all times.

[Nuk_Duck]

That was not my experience.
Damage taken from heroes triggers the 3 second cooldown, I don't know how it could have not been the case with you.

[RPZip]

If Blademail worked that'd be pretty hardcore, but I think he's immune to damage.

But if you want a hard counter beyond "Do not put yourself in that situation", Assassin's Shroud would do it.

[Whitebushid1]

Puzzlebox is good to eat a few attacks, he might even kill the revenge guy.

[SuperStanos]

If this is really a problem for you, Assassin's Shroud is your best bet or if you're a hero that can utilize a puzzle box well, that.

[Charade]

Don't enter places without vision if you can't see where Swiftblade is on the map.

If you're laning against him, stay near the creeps at all times.

this.

exactly.

too many noobs cry that his ult is OP. i just laugh.

[Mizarus]

Jereziah ult
Accursed Ult
Bottle with invi rune
Valkyrie Ult if well timed
Chronos Ult (in theory)
other skills i forgot

[Surtr52]

Shoop outta there with valkyries blink, I've done it a few times.

[Weenoman]

The higher levels of the swiftblades ult really adds too many strikes. In terms of balance I would make the ability give only 1 more strike per level into it, lower the cooldown a little bit, make it cost less mana. Being able to omni someone, or even a group of people, while untouchable, and then going right into a 5 second whirlwind for another period of invulnerable damage is a little crazy. Especially on a hero that can easily grab first bloods and can jungle VERY early. Heros like juggy are supposed to be balanced by poor laning early, but he's got the ability to jungle, which is a bit unfair to the other poor melee heros. Cept maybe Axe. Elecrician is pretty good too.

I'm done now.

[RenoFox]

Invis and/or blink = a mad Swift blade.
So get an assassins shroud if he's really pissing you off.

[Equate]

The higher levels of the swiftblades ult really adds too many strikes. In terms of balance I would make the ability give only 1 more strike per level into it, lower the cooldown a little bit, make it cost less mana. Being able to omni someone, or even a group of people, while untouchable, and then going right into a 5 second whirlwind for another period of invulnerable damage is a little crazy. Especially on a hero that can easily grab first bloods and can jungle VERY early. Heros like juggy are supposed to be balanced by poor laning early, but he's got the ability to jungle, which is a bit unfair to the other poor melee heros. Cept maybe Axe. Elecrician is pretty good too.

I'm done now.

He's only deadly early game if you don't know how to avoid him.. Im always laughing when I start to bladefury someone and they just run straight back past creeps.. leaving themselves wide open for an omni..
Onmi(swift strikes) is destroyed early game when there is another enemy that can be hit.. Use that to your advantage... Use your creeps and dont let him catch you alone, Bringing someone in your lane is also a good idea for help against him.. Also never get to close to him, Most good swifts will have early boots, so escapeing a bladefury will be hard if you do what is predicted run straight back to tower, Try running forward past him staying near creeps.. If hes below 6 use the forest and tress to your advantage blocking him etc..

Endgame Bladefury's dmg is not great at all and only used as a scare factor because its strong early game, Remember that.. If it's endgame and he starts to bladefury, get to creeps or Nuetrals or allies asap..

Hes really not that hard to counter and is only seeming op because some people haven't played DoTa before...

[asukhama]

the problem i usually encounter is, despite knowing that his ultimate is easily countered by being around other potential organic targets, i tend to always come by swiftblade when i'm running about alone trying to push a lane.

I have been able to sustain his ultimate more than once as a semi build legionaire with behemoth heart, runed axe, marchers & sustainer. However, if his ultimate is finished and nearly killed you, his wirlwind right after that will likely just murder you. Unless you have anything to blink in or out, you're usually screwed.

You CAN hit swift blade during the wirlwind, so in any case, if you think you Can sustain the wirlwind, tank him.

Admittingly i have thrown in the term OP while playing a friends game only. The same way i tend to think "overpowered" once we have to deal with Night Hound in a single draft. It's a matter of approach in the end i get that, he isn't overpowered and nor is nighthound, but in the end the term "cheap" isn't all that misplaced.

[M3chTig3rZZZ]

I tried Null Stone (Linkens Sphere) and it only blocked the first strike, the rest continued to wreck me. Isn't it supposed to cancel out the entire ult because it is a targeted spell?

[Rawful]

^Oh god my bad, I thought you meant homecoming stone*** which wouldn't work, cuz it'd be ministunned.

But portal key still wouldn't work, because you can't take damage within 3 secs (?) to use the key anyways.

A portal key will work, you just need to have very fast hands, I believe that you have a .25sec time after getting hit while you can still blink.(at least this is the case in dota).

[Powster]

shrunken head I think makes you immune to it..

[Mark]

If you're legionnaire taunt to increase your armour. If you manage to taunt him I think this means he can't ultimate for 3 seconds which might be long enough to get to some creeps or neutrals.

BTW if you put your portal key in the bottom left the default bind is ALT+A, if you're quick you can get away before he casts ult

[EnragedCamel]

A portal key will work, you just need to have very fast hands, I believe that you have a .25sec time after getting hit while you can still blink.(at least this is the case in dota).

Which is really funny because when someone says portal key doesn't work to counter omni, you just know that they are bad players.

[Tollazor]

I tend to play Swiftblade a fair bit while I'm learning the game. I tend to by an Assassin's Shroud so I can sneak in and catch that Hero that is alone.

Whenever I see a Hero alone, as Swiftblade, I think that is pure Gold. The thing that annoys me most as Swiftblade is when the Enemy Hero's stick together, specially around creeps, totally nullifies my ult.

So if your playing against Swiftblade, don't walk around by yourself, unless u know swiftblade has used his ult very recently. Always have 2 or more creeps or whatnot next to you.

[Himura1]

just dont go alone. always be with at least 1 friendly hero when going in forests ect. his ulti becomes totally useless when there are many enemies together, so use that to your advantage.

[Barter]

In dota afaik when you had blade mail active, it reflected the damage back to him so if you have more hp then him, you would have a better chance.

The new blademail is useless :(