Ignorance's Multiselect Hotkeys

[Ignorance]

Ignorance's Multiselect Hotkeys

This mod gives you several new hotkeys.

1. Assign Control Groups
This hotkey allows for you to assign a large control group containing all of the units you are currently selecting, as well as several smaller ones up to nine units occupying your other control groups.
Example: I am playing ophelia. I have two minotaurs and use the puzzlebox. I press this key.
Ctrl group 1 - All five units.
Ctrl group 2 - Ophelia
Ctrl group 3 - Minotaur 1
Ctrl group 4 - Minotaur 2
Ctrl group 5 - Puzzlebox Minion 1
Ctrl group 6 - Puzzlebox Minion 2
It then resets to the original control group with the first unit (Ophelia) selected.

2. Ophelia Keys
These are named after Ophelia because they are undoubtedly the most useful for her, but they are very strong for all summons, including puzzlebox and dominated creeps. I assigned six of them, so you can access the first six non-hero units in your multiselect group this way. These will only work up to the tenth unit in the multiselect group, so there shouldn't be any issues with illusions.
The first key will search your multiselect group for the first non-hero unit. If it has an ability in the first slot, that ability will activate (i.e. the minotaur will stomp the group) and if that ability is targeted, it will let you selected a target. Once the ability is used, Ophelia will then be reselected.
The second key does the same with the second non-hero unit in your multiselect group, etc. etc.
Also, if you use the hotkey twice, it will activate twice, selecting only the unit you are interested in. This can be useful for units with cooldowns up or without abilities.

Example:
I have Warbeast, a minotaur and two dogs selected. I use hotkey 1 to activate the ability of the minotaur. The minotaur uses Body Slam as soon as I press that and Warbeast is reselected as soon as it the stomp's cooldown actovates.

Note: If you use this with a unit that has a targeted ability and then, instead of casting it, immediately switch to an identical unit, the mod will be unable to tell the difference and will reselect the hero if you cast the same targeted ability with the other unit.

3. Scoreboard Toggle Hotkeys
One key switches your scoreboard between closed and open. The other switches your scoreboard between max and min. Works with the original scoreboard as well as the specialized scoreboards of BardUI, Bigger Scoreboard and Hero Icons and Scoreboard Smallout.

Version 1.1:
-Fixed issue with modmanager resetting the mod to unapplied
-Shortened name

Download:

.honmod (Version 1.1) (http://www.mediafire.com/?ljzzjy5miyw)

resources095.s2z (standalone version) (http://www.mediafire.com/?z05mmmzwmzm)

[SolarFlare22]

Interesting idea. To picture it better, it eliminates the need to tab+q by instantly activating the ability and then switching back to the primary unit?

[Ignorance]

Interesting idea. To picture it better, it eliminates the need to tab+q by instantly activating the ability?
Yes, but in cases where you have several units to select, it requires more hotkeys.
Edit: In my hurry, it seems I posted this to the wrong forum.
I apologize to any moderator that will have to move this.

[bax]

Works well! I really like this. Will serve as a great game addition untill S2 do their own micromanagement improvements. I have updated my post to include your mod

[Drasha]

why did you post in general?

[Meshaber]

Aye, this is the wrong place for this thread.

OT: Sounds like a great mod though!

[Ignorance]

Works well! I really like this. Will serve as a great game addition untill S2 do their own micromanagement improvements. I have updated my post to include your mod
Excellent. If there's anything you want added, just let me know.

[Xristosx]

OMG YES! thank you! This is awesome, this makes things so much easier, even though i didnt mind tabbing to switch to other creeps, this is so much better thanks! though i think this mod might be considered cheating, but ill leave this up to the mods and such

hmm one thing nice to add might be somewhere on the screen you can see the cooldowns/status of each selected creeps skills, theres been a few times where ive switched to a minataur to stun only to realise the stuns on c/d or out of mana

oh yeah, just one problem i found, if i press the hotkey twice, the first press does the skill, and the second press brings the focus back to the minataur but doesnt use the skill because its in cooldown, thus staying focused on the minataur

[Pho3n1x]

Thank you Ignorance.
/bow



...

Rofl.

Agreed.

[Ignorance]

OMG YES! thank you! This is awesome, this makes things so much easier, even though i didnt mind tabbing to switch to other creeps, this is so much better thanks! though i think this mod might be considered cheating, but ill leave this up to the mods and such

hmm one thing nice to add might be somewhere on the screen you can see the cooldowns/status of each selected creeps skills, theres been a few times where ive switched to a minataur to stun only to realise the stuns on c/d or out of mana

oh yeah, just one problem i found, if i press the hotkey twice, the first press does the skill, and the second press brings the focus back to the minataur but doesnt use the skill because its in cooldown, thus staying focused on the minataur

That is intended, since this can also be used to switch focus to a unit without an activated ability. Alternatively, I could have made it cycle through units until it finds one that can make a move, but that could be problematic. Although, I would like to make a hotkey that causes all of the minotaurs to go off at once or to cycle through them.
There isn't a UI currently, but I might add one later.

[JohnnySmash]

Sounds pretty cool, I always wanted to be able to hotkey abilities from your units to a separate hotkey, and this is the closest I've seen to being able to do that.

[Ignorance]

Updated to fix a minor issue with modmanager resetting the status to unapplied every time modmanager is loaded.
Shortened name along the same fix
Now named "Multiselect Hotkeys"

[Destro]

You have just won an internet and a half :O

I'm going to give it a shot but the reviews look promising.

[Sephinator]

Nice work Ignorance! :)

Very nice indeed.

[Hurrico]

Where should i put this file to make it work after downloading ?

[Voulture]

I hope this will be implemented in next patches tbh. Good job.

[connta]

awesome, awesome mod...

but one thing could make it really perfect. could we have numbers above each creep responding to its position in the group (heroes obviously not needing one).

[Hurrico]

i downloaded that file but i cant open it , so where should i extract it or place to make it work ?

EDITED ; I found out my self ><

[Ignorance]

awesome, awesome mod...

but one thing could make it really perfect. could we have numbers above each creep responding to its position in the group (heroes obviously not needing one).
There is neither any way to trigger the alt info to show this, nor any unique information for the creep to use. Also, it currently organizes them by date created, so I can't just tag a number on top of their head for when they were dominated and expect it to mean something. :(

[Rean]

with puzzlebox its working weird. until puzzle wizard is 2nd in selection it wont work. it tries to use passive manaburn from melee guy.

[Delfofthebla]

this sounds awesome...downloading!

[Taiya]

I have no idea how this mod works :(

[tinyzzz]

This looks rad.

Thanks OP :)

[Rean]

I have no idea how this mod works :(

look Controls in Options. it adds a section.

[dxu05]

what how do you install this

[Ignorance]

what how do you install this
1. Read the stickies
2. Once installed, look in the controls section of the options menu
3. Assign keys
This uses modmanager. I'll convert it to an s2z in my next version, which I can't make any predictions about when that will be. However, it modifies game.interface, so use modmanager.

[billcosplay]

I just played with this for 20 minutes, could not figure out how to get it to work
I bound the controls and still found it all to be confusing as hell, especially the assign control groups.
Any chance you could explain this more?

[Evil_Andrex]

Uhm im afraid of a mod popping in to interupt your fun.

[MaxGhost]

Uhm im afraid of a mod popping in to interupt your fun.

Ohai!

[dxu05]

Yeah this doesn't do anything, all the keys are assigned but nothing happens when i hit them with monsters elected or unselected.

[mpcvzero13]

For those who still doesn't know how to use this or haven't figured it out, here's what I know

1. Assign Control Groups
(Haven't tried this one, so I can't explain anything about it :D)


2. Ophelia Keys

like what SolarFlare22 said.


Interesting idea. To picture it better, it eliminates the need to tab+q by instantly activating the ability and then switching back to the primary unit?



Example:

I assigned my Ophelia Keys 1-6 to Alt + 1-6.

I got Ophelia, and 3 Minotaurs for this example all selected

When you look at the bottom right of your screen, the order of units (from left to right) is Ophelia, Minotaur1, Minotaur2, Minotaur3.

So when i press Alt+1, no matter who's unit I'm focused on, It will switch focus to Minotaur1, then use his first skill, then switch focus on the first unit, which is Ophelia.

same with Alt+2, no matter who's unit I'm focused on, It will switch focus to Minotaur2, then use his first skill, then switch focus on the first unit, which is Ophelia.



Example 2: Ophelia not in the group

Order of unit (from left to right): Catman Champion, Minotaur, Skeleton King

When I press Alt+1, switch focus on Catman Champion, use his first skill, then switch to the first unit of the group, which is Catman Champion also.

When I press Alt+2, switch focus on Minotaur, use his first skill, then switch to the first unit of the group, which is Catman Champion


This can be used on other heroes as well, like Hellbringer or when using Whispering Helm to dominate some neuts w/ ability or when using Puzzlebox


Ophelia Keys eliminates the need of Tabbing for the unit then press Q to activate his/her first ability (Take Note: First Ability Only!). This is a big help in micro especially when controlling a large group of creeps/minions (w/ Whispering Helm & Puzzlebox). Thanks to Ignorance!


3. Scoreboard Toggle Hotkeys
(Haven't used this one either. Obviously, it's self explanatory)

[PHEN]

For those who still doesn't know how to use this or haven't figured it out, here's what I know

1. Assign Control Groups
(Haven't tried this one, so I can't explain anything about it :D)



Assign Control Groups automatically assigns whatever is in your control group to your the keys you described in step 2.

[Ignorance]

Assign Control Groups automatically assigns[/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE] whatever is in your control group to your the keys you described in step 2.
This is false. Those keys don't need to be assigned.
The first key works by assigning all your currently selected units to control group 1, your first selected unit to control group 2, your second to group 3, etc. all the way to your 9th unit in control group 10.

[mpcvzero13]

This is false. Those keys don't need to be assigned.
The first key works by assigning all your currently selected units to control group 1, your first selected unit to control group 2, your second to group 3, etc. all the way to your 9th unit in control group 10.

Question:
- What's the difference or advantage of it compared to Ctrl + # ?

EDIT: I'm kinda getting it...

[_Archangel_]

Getting an error trying to download it. o.o

[unstopuns]

The link seems to be broken

[Lo_Pan]

Lol why not just learn the correct way? is not hat hard...just takes time and patience!
The issue with this MOD is that when you are chasing an enemy hero...and let say you have three minotaurs chasing and the very first one is kind of within range to stun...you can not see which hot key # he is in...therefore you can stun but it could be the very last minotaur in line which is not in range to stun. I have to do it manually. It would be cool if the number of the hot key would appear on the minotaur himself walking...that way you would not which hot key # to press!

[Ignorance]

Lol why not just learn the correct way? is not hat hard...just takes time and patience!
The issue with this MOD is that when you are chasing an enemy hero...and let say you have three minotaurs chasing and the very first one is kind of within range to stun...you can not see which hot key # he is in...therefore you can stun but it could be the very last minotaur in line which is not in range to stun. I have to do it manually. It would be cool if the number of the hot key would appear on the minotaur himself walking...that way you would not which hot key # to press!
Answered this question. There currently is no way to do this. :(

[Lo_Pan]

Answered this question. There currently is no way to do this. :(

Thanks! I knew it! :(
Other than my previous reply...it is pretty easy to do it manually!

Actually...I'm getting used to memorizing visually the minotaur line up by whichever I converted first. Say I have 3 minotaurs...some times if you take a break every 2 mins and move your minotaurs by manually picking them to move individually from the key Ctrl 1...you can memorize and keep track of which is which that you have to tab to when chasing. Is weird but I love microing so...you just have to work with whatever S2 gives you. I'm getting really good at it!

[waspeh]

Don't suppose you can add a few settings to toggle auto-attacks? I know there's a plug-in for Barters mod that does it, but I'd rather just have the 1 mod. :P

[kevs926]

Actually...I'm getting used to memorizing visually the minotaur line up by whichever I converted first. Say I have 3 minotaurs...some times if you take a break every 2 mins and move your minotaurs by manually picking them to move individually from the key Ctrl 1...you can memorize and keep track of which is which that you have to tab to when chasing. Is weird but I love microing so...you just have to work with whatever S2 gives you. I'm getting really good at it!
CTRL TAB centers the unit so you know which

@ignorance
could you add a button that presses ctrl+1, tab, shift+1, tab, shift+1, 1 in this order.

what is the use of this?
well if u click puzzlebox, hellhound, illusion bottle, geometer - 2 units spawn
since u are initially controlling ur hero alone and the units doesnt automatically get added to ur current selection, pressing this button do the following in correct order:
ctrl1-assigns only ur hero to ctrl grp 1
tab-switch to 1 of the summoned unit
shift1-add that summoned unit to ctrl group 1
tab-switch to 1 of the summoned unit
shift1-add that summoned unit to ctrl group 1
1-selects all units

[Ignorance]

CTRL TAB centers the unit so you know which

@ignorance
could you add a button that presses ctrl+1, tab, shift+1, tab, shift+1, 1 in this order.

what is the use of this?
well if u click puzzlebox, hellhound, illusion bottle, geometer - 2 units spawn
since u are initially controlling ur hero alone and the units doesnt automatically get added to ur current selection, pressing this button do the following in correct order:
ctrl1-assigns only ur hero to ctrl grp 1
tab-switch to 1 of the summoned unit
shift1-add that summoned unit to ctrl group 1
tab-switch to 1 of the summoned unit
shift1-add that summoned unit to ctrl group 1
1-selects all units
I'll release a tab version of this mod with the new patch.

[lKhain]

Incompatible with Scoreboard toggle hotkey (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=58370), modman tells me.

Edit: i c, its in the options.
Nvm.

[PHEN]

Incompatible with Scoreboard toggle hotkey (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=58370), modman tells me.

If I recall correctly, Multiselect comes bundled with scoreboard toggle :). So you don't need to have them both on, because multiselect provides you the toggle-scoreboard ability.

[liff]

@ignorance
could you add a button that presses ctrl+1, tab, shift+1, tab, shift+1, 1 in this order.

what is the use of this?
well if u click puzzlebox, hellhound, illusion bottle, geometer - 2 units spawn
since u are initially controlling ur hero alone and the units doesnt automatically get added to ur current selection, pressing this button do the following in correct order:
ctrl1-assigns only ur hero to ctrl grp 1
tab-switch to 1 of the summoned unit
shift1-add that summoned unit to ctrl group 1
tab-switch to 1 of the summoned unit
shift1-add that summoned unit to ctrl group 1
1-selects all units
this please

[Ignorance]

this please
I haven't had the time lately, nor do I now. Midterms. :(

[QQCucumber]

I wanted to use this to make Engineer's turret easy to toggle between firing at heroes only and firing at creeps too, but sadly said button the turret is button 2, while shutdown (for mana recharge) is button 1..

[SaintKnightz]

Lol why not just learn the correct way? is not hat hard...just takes time and patience!
The issue with this MOD is that when you are chasing an enemy hero...and let say you have three minotaurs chasing and the very first one is kind of within range to stun...you can not see which hot key # he is in...therefore you can stun but it could be the very last minotaur in line which is not in range to stun. I have to do it manually. It would be cool if the number of the hot key would appear on the minotaur himself walking...that way you would not which hot key # to press!

I run into the same problem as him many times in many games. Why is it impossible to put a number above the creeps when we got so many mods that put something above unit's head. Eg. hp and mana percentage number mod, Bang's ultimate mod that lets you see on screen above the hero's head the CD of their ult, the Player Name mod that gives the name of the player above their head and the mod that shows above player's head which team their on (legion, hellbourne). You don't even have to let us choose which creep is which number or order them by date, just put any number above their heads. OR change the color of each creep.

[Ignorance]

I run into the same problem as him many times in many games. Why is it impossible to put a number above the creeps when we got so many mods that put something above unit's head. Eg. hp and mana percentage number mod, Bang's ultimate mod that lets you see on screen above the hero's head the CD of their ult, the Player Name mod that gives the name of the player above their head and the mod that shows above player's head which team their on (legion, hellbourne). You don't even have to let us choose which creep is which number or order them by date, just put any number above their heads. OR change the color of each creep.
We have no way to distinguish between units other than their name, which is only accessible when hovering over them.
Heroes are a special case, since it's not like I'm going to be controlling several heroes with different cooldowns.
That said, meepo would break all UI mods dealing with the alt info for heroes.

[arnold_swe]

could you put up a screen ? doesn't really get how it works :S

[Ignorance]

could you put up a screen ? doesn't really get how it works :S
This is a hotkey mod, so screenshots wouldn't help very much.

[Avi1231]

Ignorance, don't know if you have time, but is there anyway to get this to work for Pollywog and Engineer so that when you drop Polly's ult or Engi's turret it automatically hotkeys them to something? Or, would it have to be I select both hero and the gadgets and use the multiselect hotkey to group them?

[Avi1231]

Does this mod/will it need to be updated for the new patch (March 25th)? Thanks!

[waspeh]

Would also <3 an update for this, forgot how much I hated micro in HoN!

[Pord]

is there an update coming since the new patch?

[Dotatod]

I had a suggestion and a question.

My suggestion was to remove the hero from the hotkey line up, 2, since f1 will always select your hero. I was wondering if 1 could be all units, and 2 be the first unit in multi select.

My question is, is there a way to remember that I added puzzle box to my assign group control? Re-adding things like geometers, puzzlebox, and wolves each time sucks :(

EDIT: I was able to enable this mod while HON was running, then close HON, then apply my mods, and restart HON. I wasn't prompted with v.2

[waspy]

Bump for update, I miss my scoreboard toggle :P

[Dotatod]

Bump for update, I miss my scoreboard toggle :P

load honmod manager while hon is running. then click on the mod you want to enable. close hon. then apply mods in honmod manager. restart hon.

if you restart honmod manager while hon is closed, itll disable the mod due to version.

[Elle1]

load honmod manager while hon is running. then click on the mod you want to enable. close hon. then apply mods in honmod manager. restart hon.

if you restart honmod manager while hon is closed, itll disable the mod due to version.

This didn't work for me. If i try to apply while hon is open, i get an error message "cannon access blablabla because its being used by another process".

[KaliKot]

This didn't work for me. If i try to apply while hon is open, i get an error message "cannon access blablabla because its being used by another process".

learn to read? he said apply AFTER CLOSING HON

[Dotatod]

http://www.mediafire.com/?tyjdvcnnd25


<modification application="Heroes of Newerth" appversion="-0.3.*" mmversion="1.1"

This is the only line I modified in the mod.xml

You can only set up hotkeys in game though or in the startup.cfg, it hasn't been updated at all for FE2

[Elle1]

learn to read? he said apply AFTER CLOSING HON

Ahh, this is what happens when you glance through threads while being dead. Thanks!

[Joy]

I love this addon for Ophelia, but I have a question. The key used to make control groups also seems to clear all of them first (logical). Is there some way I can make it NOT clear a specific keybind (control group 10 in my case). I always use 10 for the courier, and using this addon makes me constantly lose my courier control group.

[SaintKnightz]

It'll be great if we can modify our own groups (choose a group that won't get affected like what Joys said above me)

[Dotatod]

doubt this mod will get any love any time soon :(

a suggestion for joys, ` is the default key to swap between "shoppers". so tabbing between is a lot easier than hitting 0 imo.

i wish this mod gave puzzle box a higher priority on the list, that mana burn has to be the best minion use ability.

[Bangerz]

FE2 Update (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=954395#MultiSelectHotkeys)

[Duomaxwe]

Okay I have both the one on the first page and the one Bangers just posted and neither seem to do anything when I activate puzzle box and try to select the minions with my number keys.

What am I doing wrong?

[DocSmoothJew]

You have to select the units manually then hit the assigned hotkey to have it autogroup them. Then you should be good to go.

[Miniduus]

Can someone update this mod? i cant use it in the last update, i cant see interface when i have it on.

Please, its very usefull:ophe:

[InaneDugong]

Try this one instead, sir.
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=70372#Bang! Control Freak

[Miniduus]

Please Ignorance (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=61685), can you update this addon?.
i really like it, and need it for Ophelia:D

[Prester]

does anyone know any 3.0 ophelia hotkeys - mod ?
this one no longer works, bang control freak doesnt work ... :-(