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itwasntmeo_O
07-15-2010, 11:52 AM
resulting us reconnecting to MM over and over. This made me a leaver
This is called milking.. and I hope you dont do so.
This is actually called leaving games that you've joined. By doing this you're making other players more frustrated and ruining their experiences. You brought it on yourself...
Mhm good advice.
It was AP which is always part of the issue. I'm actually sort of thinking of switching over to BD/BP games now just because I'm getting sick of all the last minute picks that leaves it more up to luck than actual picking strategy.
The new right-click potential hero thing makes this a lot better... but you're right. In public games EVERYONE wants to play their favourite hero. You're going to need to convince other people that you can play your hero better than they can play there hero, if the two dont work well together :)
BD/BP games in higher PSR brackets have a lot more discussion and coherent thought. Sure, you still get the retard that says "I know you'll hate me for this but... *picks scout first*". (That actually happened. No joke. I should have screenshotted it. Actually... I will.) Most of the time though, you'll get a decent team.
EGNesTea420
07-16-2010, 06:03 AM
The new right-click potential hero thing makes this a lot better... but you're right. In public games EVERYONE wants to play their favourite hero. You're going to need to convince other people that you can play your hero better than they can play there hero, if the two dont work well together :smile:
BD/BP games in higher PSR brackets have a lot more discussion and coherent thought. Sure, you still get the retard that says "I know you'll hate me for this but... *picks scout first*". (That actually happened. No joke. I should have screenshotted it. Actually... I will.) Most of the time though, you'll get a decent team.
Yeah.
I've been really bouncing back and forth between the idea of playing BD/BP and playing AP. I've been playing a lot solo recently so I'm going to really need to dust off my :souls: skills a bit and play him a bunch. I was doing voodoo the other day and today and got a decent chunk of PSR (before I lost it in 2 games, haha) but higher up people tend to get more disablers which sucks. So many disables that can go through BKB too that makes his ult kind of useless then :(.
That being said I'll probably bounce between BD and AP depending on what I feel like. I honestly feel the hardest part is convincing people that you're a good mid player in higher end games when everyone is higher PSR than you. That and a bad game or two really knocks you down in confidence.
Michinseki
07-17-2010, 12:52 AM
what is the Mod that allows the user to see the radius of their primary attacks, say for example a ranged hero can see the limit radius?
RobotGir
07-17-2010, 01:44 AM
I just wanted to know, do you get charged for a stat reset in HoN? Or has that just become another feature? I think it would be pretty ridiculous to pay for stat resets.
Meowshi
07-17-2010, 02:56 AM
I just wanted to know, do you get charged for a stat reset in HoN? Or has that just become another feature? I think it would be pretty ridiculous to pay for stat resets.
$20
It changes the mean/median PSR of HoN and should not be free/spammable.
kitboh
08-02-2010, 09:46 AM
Just asking, Ive got leaver status on MM. You might possibly think that I rage quitted everygame but thats not it. I played with some mates and tried to MM in team resulting us reconnecting to MM over and over to get into the same queue. This made me a leaver and im very mad at the solution you made for ppl like us.
I might be wrong but if there isnt anyway at all to fight off the leaver status without paying money I.... I dont have any words to describe how foul that is. If Im wrong please correct me, but if Im not I really hope you should consider another option like joining "leaver-games" to draw the leaver percentage down. Just like the public games.
This is called milking.. and I hope you dont do so.
Thanks in advance.
If I'm not much mistaken the whole point of the matchmaking system is that you won't get pubstomped(and that you play against people roughly your skill level). If you want to play as a team why not use the public games list?
Asinine
08-03-2010, 08:40 PM
For the Electrician, his new mana shield at max says it produces a shield 1.33x the mana cast. My question is how much mana does the shield cost if your at full mana? Is it a percentage based off of gross mana or total current mana??
OhBob
08-04-2010, 12:29 PM
Up to 20% of max mana.
Shinnuki
08-05-2010, 04:34 AM
I was just wondering...
For some heroes, say;
:souls:
How should I go stacking creeps?
Would just be stupid getting an early :WhisperingHelm: just for that? :S
Also....
How do I swap modifiers? :)
EDIT:
Another one lol...
They are probably all dumb but....
With :fors:
How often and when should I release the skeletons?
I usually with for someone trying to gank me, mid fight or teamfight....
But if I learned to use them elsewhere... I would probably increase my GPM.
spdn4cr
08-05-2010, 12:39 PM
moved
Dragnmn
08-05-2010, 05:49 PM
I was just wondering...
For some heroes, say;
:souls:
How should I go stacking creeps?
Would just be stupid getting an early :WhisperingHelm: just for that? :S
Also....
How do I swap modifiers? :)
EDIT:
Another one lol...
They are probably all dumb but....
With :fors:
How often and when should I release the skeletons?
I usually with for someone trying to gank me, mid fight or teamfight....
But if I learned to use them elsewhere... I would probably increase my GPM.
Guess I'll try answering these:
For the stacking, your supports should do it for you. SS does not need an early whispering, you can much better get 200g more and buy a Portal Key. For some carries (like Maliken) getting early whispering is good because he both needs the lifesteal and the ancients, and with a Whispering you can take out a triple stacked camp every 3 minutes. SS farms easily enough in lanes.
Swapping modifiers is done with . and , .
I'm not a good FA player, but I'll try to give an answer: early game, save them up, pin someone and release them. When the game is getting late and you actually want to push lanes while farming, you can release them, while jungling you can release them to take the creeps down faster so you take less damage... Use your own discretion really. Refilling them only takes 6 last hits anyway.
Shinnuki
08-05-2010, 05:58 PM
Thank you :)
I agree it's the supports job stacking for the carries(atleast I do lol).
Well I see that was kinda a dumb question when it's 200 away from a core item.
I just didn't see how it would be possible doing it all in lane with SS, I think I'm just way too passive when it comes to certain things.
Thanks once again :)
robbiek1
08-06-2010, 10:14 AM
Does your -EM played % change when you play EM nostats?
Because i have never played -EM in HoN before, and i want to see how it is.
~Robbie
Jshu1
08-06-2010, 10:19 AM
Hi, when I play I can't seem to scroll right or down with the mouse, but up and left works fine. Its a pain to have to use the arrow keys as it makes hotkeys unusable!! Please Help!!
Dragnmn
08-06-2010, 01:46 PM
Does your -EM played % change when you play EM nostats?
Because i have never played -EM in HoN before, and i want to see how it is.
~Robbie
Haven't tried, but it shouldn't, it's nostats.
itwasntmeo_O
08-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I was just wondering...
For some heroes, say;
:souls:
How should I go stacking creeps?
Would just be stupid getting an early :WhisperingHelm: just for that? :S
Also....
How do I swap modifiers? :)
EDIT:
Another one lol...
They are probably all dumb but....
With :fors:
How often and when should I release the skeletons?
I usually with for someone trying to gank me, mid fight or teamfight....
But if I learned to use them elsewhere... I would probably increase my GPM.
When you're playing soulstealer, dont bother with a whispering helm. If you have good support heroes,they can stack the camps for you. If you dont, you can kill a creep wave in mid with demon hands, go stack and kill jungle creeps, and be back in time for the next creep wave. You can stack the small creep camp on sentinel in time like this, and with a pk you can stack the large senti camp as well.
Someone answered the modifiers one...
With FA you want to use your skeletons when you can get some solid harass off and possibly score a kill. If an arachna comes too close to you trying to harass, just pop the skeles and right click the arachna. She'll go to at least half hp with skeles and autoattacks alone. If you land arrows, you'll get a kill. You can do this with any ranged hero. Against solo melee heroes, I would have the skeletons out almost always. If they can hit a skeleton to kill it, the skeletons can hit him and do a lot more damage.
Also use the skeletons any time you have a tower in your sights, you can do huge damage with skeletons in a very short time. It might be worth it to you to take 1/3 of the tower's hp and lose all your skeletons.
Does your -EM played % change when you play EM nostats?
Because i have never played -EM in HoN before, and i want to see how it is.
~Robbie
No, NOTHING is recorded when you play no stats. EM games, leaves, wards placed, games played... nothing.
Kraphty
08-06-2010, 03:25 PM
No, NOTHING is recorded when you play no stats. EM games, leaves, wards placed, games played... nothing.
I heard that leaves do count in non-stat games. True or False?
itwasntmeo_O
08-06-2010, 03:28 PM
I heard that leaves do count in non-stat games. True or False?
False, nothing is recorded. For proof, check my stats page:
http://stats.maide.ca/players/view/itwasntmeo_O/stats/
then check my game listing:
http://stats.maide.ca/players/view/itwasntmeo_O/matches/
I've disconnected from two non-stats games and I have no disconnects registered. :)
robbiek1
08-07-2010, 06:55 AM
Does geometers bane cancel the ultimate of warbeast?
~Robbie
Afzichtelijk
08-10-2010, 03:29 PM
Does geometers bane cancel the ultimate of warbeast?
~Robbie
no, your illusions spawn as a transformed wb (the beast dog thing version)
and since you control them they also have slow restistance, unitwalking and 522ms
Pikling
08-10-2010, 10:09 PM
Quick question..
There were away you could go in and search in pro players played games after heroes you wanted to watch a replay off.. How was this again?
Decency
08-11-2010, 03:41 AM
Quick question..
There were away you could go in and search in pro players played games after heroes you wanted to watch a replay off.. How was this again?
http://stats.maide.ca/players/index/psr/desc
Click the player you'd like to watch replays of, click matches, Control+F for whatever hero you want to see him play, then download that Replay.
itwasntmeo_O
08-11-2010, 01:20 PM
Just to add to that, different players prefer certain types of heroes. For example, you'll find a lot of melee heroes played by freshpro, while trixi prefers ranged carries. If you were looking for a good pharoh replay, dont check in trixi's replays, check in freshpro's replays instead.
Pikling
08-11-2010, 08:14 PM
Dont lie to me
Xero0
08-12-2010, 07:06 PM
y cant we kick anymore?
Volwrath
08-13-2010, 12:13 AM
I love rift shards but almost never seem them picked up in pro replays why is this.
Dragnmn
08-13-2010, 07:31 AM
I love rift shards but almost never seem them picked up in pro replays why is this.
Most likely because it only gives damage. Savage Mace gives a ministun. Wingbow gives evasion and stats. Geometer's Bane gives illusions and stats. This gives all those items much better utility compared to Riftshards.
I'm not a pro player by any means, but I think the reasoning is pretty solid still.
Rollun
08-13-2010, 11:20 AM
Who is the best nuker? Pyro or WS?
Kaelillidan
08-13-2010, 11:23 AM
What does team afk mean?
Kaelillidan
08-13-2010, 11:25 AM
Why are there griefers, feeders, lamers, afkers, and baddies in all pub games?
ThunderPantz
08-14-2010, 12:13 PM
Quick question:
If Bubbles casts his 3rd skill -Shell Retreat (total immunity)- and Chronos casts his Sphere on Bubbles, would the -now frozen- turtle maintain its immunity for the whole duration of the Sphere?
Dragnmn
08-14-2010, 12:47 PM
Quick question:
If Bubbles casts his 3rd skill -Shell Retreat (total immunity)- and Chronos casts his Sphere on Bubbles, would the -now frozen- turtle maintain its immunity for the whole duration of the Sphere?
I attempted testing this in Practise Mode, however Bubbles was able to move in the Chronofield for some reason, even if I didn't Shell first. I would guess however that the time on the skill is NOT frozen. Bubbles will pop out of the shell after Shell ends, and be frozen by Chronofield.
KidCudi
08-14-2010, 01:18 PM
Question about :warb: better to start off in a lane and go in the jungle at level 3, which I see from time to time, or to just begin in the jungle at level 1?
ThunderPantz
08-15-2010, 08:12 PM
I attempted testing this in Practise Mode, however Bubbles was able to move in the Chronofield for some reason, even if I didn't Shell first. I would guess however that the time on the skill is NOT frozen. Bubbles will pop out of the shell after Shell ends, and be frozen by Chronofield.
Looks like the gamemakers foresaw that one... Thanks for taking the time to test it, much appreciated :)
itwasntmeo_O
08-16-2010, 11:41 AM
Looks like the gamemakers foresaw that one... Thanks for taking the time to test it, much appreciated :)
Had a recent game with chronos vs bubbles. Bubbles comes out of his shell in chronosphere. However, if bubbles is IN his shell in chronosphere, he can use a portal key and blink out.
Shinnuki
08-17-2010, 02:13 AM
Question about :warb: better to start off in a lane and go in the jungle at level 3, which I see from time to time, or to just begin in the jungle at level 1?
I would say jungle from lvl1.
Because, your laning mate now. Instead of having a level advantage over 2 people. He will be the same lvl as them, so when you leave at lvl3 they will destroy him that much faster.
onion
08-18-2010, 08:24 AM
Why do people recommend ganking at level 3?
itwasntmeo_O
08-18-2010, 09:18 AM
Why do people recommend ganking at level 3?
Kind of an open ended question. Who recommends it? What heroes do they recommend it for?
With the current information, I'd say the only answer is that they're a bit dense. You can gank early on if you're losing your lane so badly that you cannot return without getting killed. The opposite is true as well, if your opponents are being destroyed so badly that they cannot show up in lane, you can go off and gank another lane. You can gank if you find a nice rune (double damage / haste / invis) and see a vulnerable lane. You can gank if you see that another lane is losing very badly and could gain control with a double kill.
The thing is that none of this requires you to be level 3... Just gank when you feel you have an advantage to gain by doing so.
Why do people recommend ganking at level 3?
Although ganking before level 3 is possible, it requires you to heavily outnumber the enemy, eg 3v1 at a rune spot. Only a few combos such as :behe::witc: can gank in-lane at level 1.
You can gank properly from level 3, because you will (with most heroes) get rank 2 of your 'nuke' spell. Ganking at level 3 doesn't involve leaving your lane in this context. It's simply the earliest time when it's safe to go for a kill.
Eg :pyro::magm: is a very solid lane, but with their lv1 nukes they are not likely to get a kill. When they hit level 3, you have almost twice the damage output for almost the same mana. Your opponents still don't have much health. The opposite is true also, so beware and only gank if you think you can take them on.
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My question is:
How do you efficiently counterward with :Puzzlebox:? The item reveals wards, but you still need vision of the hill they're standing on. You may not know which hill. A normal ward would do the trick but there's still a chance you miss-guess their ward's position. Is there a fool-proof way to find and kill their wards, preferably without buying any other items?
itwasntmeo_O
08-18-2010, 12:52 PM
My question is:
How do you efficiently counterward with :Puzzlebox:? The item reveals wards, but you still need vision of the hill they're standing on. You may not know which hill. A normal ward would do the trick but there's still a chance you miss-guess their ward's position. Is there a fool-proof way to find and kill their wards, preferably without buying any other items?
The solution to your problem is a flying courier, which you should have anyway. :)
Roflsocks
08-18-2010, 02:38 PM
I have a question about neutral creep ai. When I try to double stack a creep camp, most of the time the creeps follow me, and it stacks properly. However, sometimes the creeps seem to run back early, or even part of the camp follows me, and a mob runs back, and doesn't allow the camp to be double stacked. Why do they do this?
Shinnuki
08-18-2010, 03:37 PM
Kinda depends on the camp I think.
The only camp I've had this happend to me is the easy camp when there's a "healer" involved.
Also remember the creeps will start running back when they attack something three times. I don't know if heals counts as this though.
I guess this happends mostly with ranged creeps, they can attack "easier" and even screw up the stacking because they can attack from further away.
I don't know if they start running back if you go outside they're vision range(if they have any set range).
itwasntmeo_O
08-18-2010, 04:47 PM
Also remember the creeps will start running back when they attack something three times. I don't know if heals counts as this though.
I'm not sure I agree with this, but I havnt tested it so you may be right. I do agree about the healers, and I dont think they run back if they lose LoS. Easily tested though, just take hag, attack, and blink out of sight.
arksine
08-19-2010, 12:02 AM
what does CAI on the clan page stand for??
Shinnuki
08-19-2010, 04:32 AM
Hmmm I was so sure they only attack you a set number of attacks :S
BTW:
Found out the main reason for stacking the one with a healer troubled me though.
I attacked the creep then started running.
The healer will stay back and attempt to heal himself or the creep you attacked, preventing the stack from happening.
itwasntmeo_O
08-19-2010, 08:54 AM
Hmmm I was so sure they only attack you a set number of attacks :S
Like I said I dont actually know. I can test it tonight and post the answers to most of the creep questions thought.
Whitesock
08-20-2010, 01:06 AM
Just asking, Ive got leaver status on MM. You might possibly think that I rage quitted everygame but thats not it. I played with some mates and tried to MM in team resulting us reconnecting to MM over and over to get into the same queue. This made me a leaver and im very mad at the solution you made for ppl like us.
I might be wrong but if there isnt anyway at all to fight off the leaver status without paying money I.... I dont have any words to describe how foul that is. If Im wrong please correct me, but if Im not I really hope you should consider another option like joining "leaver-games" to draw the leaver percentage down. Just like the public games.
This is called milking.. and I hope you dont do so.
Thanks in advance.
That's why MM is for solo joining, so teams don't form. That was it's purpose. Either wait for team matchmaking or join/make pub games.
much2much
08-20-2010, 05:57 AM
Why don't these ask a question threads have a contents list? It would save a lot of redundant questions and more importantly actually make people get past page 3 sifting for nuggets of information.
MoosePanini
08-20-2010, 07:57 AM
how do you put a beacon on the minimap?
[ALT-G] and left click to point on map
tanta
08-20-2010, 08:26 AM
alt + g was for warcraft i think, in hon just alt and click will do.
also ss will use his longest ranged demon hand when u press g.
Avoide
08-20-2010, 08:30 AM
How can I kick players? I just can't find the kick button anymore, and none of my friends can't kick either (they can see the button but are unable to click it)
itwasntmeo_O
08-20-2010, 08:48 AM
How can I kick players? I just can't find the kick button anymore, and none of my friends can't kick either (they can see the button but are unable to click it)
The general kick function was removed. You can now kick someone if they have been afk for more than 5 minutes, but cannot just kick any player.
GoombinhA
08-20-2010, 10:46 AM
on a high lvl game, we dont need the vote kick, but serious, most of the games are "pubs" and tons of ppls enjoy ruin the games (not talking about "noobs"), but ppl who destroy their own itens, or buy portal key and become "afk" (afk in jungle, walking there and doing nothing..), or just gave free fags to the other team because he think he is to good to their own team.....
anyway, we really need the "vote kick" for the pubs game, since 80% or more of the games are pub like...
why you removed that? and ll you put that back? (btw, sorry for my poor english)
itwasntmeo_O
08-20-2010, 01:00 PM
on a high lvl game, we dont need the vote kick, but serious, most of the games are "pubs" and tons of ppls enjoy ruin the games (not talking about "noobs"), but ppl who destroy their own itens, or buy portal key and become "afk" (afk in jungle, walking there and doing nothing..), or just gave free fags to the other team because he think he is to good to their own team.....
anyway, we really need the "vote kick" for the pubs game, since 80% or more of the games are pub like...
why you removed that? and ll you put that back? (btw, sorry for my poor english)
This is not a thread for suggestions or complaints about in-game features, its more of a thread to ask about strategies and get advice. That complaint has been aired many many times in general discussion and suggestions. Thats a better place to ask since the devs read general discussion, and not the strategy ask-a-question threads ;)
Is it still possible to deny (kill) runes with the courier and/or bottle it with a courier?
itwasntmeo_O
08-25-2010, 04:45 PM
In dota you could bottle runes with the courier. I'm not sure about HoN, but I think you can.
The courier cannot attack, so it cannot kill runes, and it is not a hero-class unit so it cannot use runes.
imthecatcher
08-25-2010, 05:27 PM
when eyes are placed on cliffs or on hard to reach trees, what are other options to cut them down other than leaping/blinking/aoe tree dmg?
In dota you could bottle runes with the courier. I'm not sure about HoN, but I think you can.
The courier cannot attack, so it cannot kill runes, and it is not a hero-class unit so it cannot use runes.
Dota != HoN. Also, there are guides saying you can steal runes with the courier thus rendering it useless. I've tried but it didn't work; maybe I did something wrong. Otherwise it should have been removed in a patch. Yet I usually read patch notes and don't recall seeing it.
edit@below: Plenty of things in HoN are different, so it's not per se the same. The guides were actually proper-looking ones, one from the premium section. You are right that I should post it in the mechanics forum, and I'm very lazy and I should test it myself. (I'm just quite sure it's not possible when these guides say it is.)
when eyes are placed on cliffs or on hard to reach trees, what are other options to cut them down other than leaping/blinking/aoe tree dmg?
I don't think courier hatchet works anymore. There is no real alternative, although if you count the heroes that use blink or tree damage, you get a lot: :bubb::andr::pest::legi::pebb::krak::pand::dark: :sand: :valk::tund::pyro::chro::dead::thun::doct::glac: :temp::mali::chip::zeph::behe::magm::wret::engi: :mage::souls:. If none of these are on your team, then you will have to buy a lot of runes of blight or a port key/tablet yourself (tablet kills trees, too).
itwasntmeo_O
08-26-2010, 08:53 AM
Dota != HoN. Also, there are guides saying you can steal runes with the courier thus rendering it useless. I've tried but it didn't work; maybe I did something wrong. Otherwise it should have been removed in a patch. Yet I usually read patch notes and don't recall seeing it.
HoN is a DotA port, and borrows all implementable mechanics from DotA. The mechanics that HoN changes are the ones that were not meant to be implementable in DotA.
In this case, DotA gets its rune mechanics from drop-on-death powersups in the standard game. When powerful creeps died they could drop use-on-pickup items that restored hp, mana, resurrected your troops, raised the creep that dropped it, etc. These items became the runes in DotA. Since they are considered items, only units of hero type can use them. This mechanic was not forced nor broken in Warcraft, so I assume it was ported fully to HoN, leading me to believe that couriers cannot pick up runes.
Your statement that Dota != HoN is absolutely true, but saying that DotA mechanics != HoN mechanics would be a massive overstatement.
Also, guides are wrong. Many of them are written by people who barely understand the game. This question would be better directed towards the mechanics forum, where Elementuser can give you a definitive answer.
Or... you know... you could boot up HoN and test it...
crazysheep
08-29-2010, 07:15 AM
Also, guides are wrong. Many of them are written by people who barely understand the game. This question would be better directed towards the mechanics forum, where Elementuser can give you a definitive answer.
Or it could have been a case of outdated guide versions. IIRC many patches ago couriers could pick up runes with a bottle in HoN until they limited couriers' abilities.
YawningAngel
08-29-2010, 08:13 AM
HoN is a DotA port, and borrows all implementable mechanics from DotA. The mechanics that HoN changes are the ones that were not meant to be implementable in DotA.
In this case, DotA gets its rune mechanics from drop-on-death powersups in the standard game. When powerful creeps died they could drop use-on-pickup items that restored hp, mana, resurrected your troops, raised the creep that dropped it, etc. These items became the runes in DotA. Since they are considered items, only units of hero type can use them. This mechanic was not forced nor broken in Warcraft, so I assume it was ported fully to HoN, leading me to believe that couriers cannot pick up runes.
Your statement that Dota != HoN is absolutely true, but saying that DotA mechanics != HoN mechanics would be a massive overstatement.
Also, guides are wrong. Many of them are written by people who barely understand the game. This question would be better directed towards the mechanics forum, where Elementuser can give you a definitive answer.
Or... you know... you could boot up HoN and test it...
It USED to be possible to collect runes with couriers. This was then removed because it was retardedly abusable. The author WAS right, but hasn't updated his guide.
what does CAI on the clan page stand for??
Clan Activity Index
BrutalOne
09-01-2010, 11:10 AM
How do you do Smackdown and Bloodless kills? I was always wondering, pro's do it, I can't.
ty
BrutalOne
Roflsocks
09-01-2010, 01:13 PM
How do you do Smackdown and Bloodless kills? I was always wondering, pro's do it, I can't.
ty
BrutalOne
Bloodlust is given for the first kill in a match. Smackdown is given for taunting a player before killing them. It is only available to players with a golden shield, as a reward for pre-ordering early enough.
BrutalOne
09-01-2010, 04:40 PM
Bloodlust is given for the first kill in a match. Smackdown is given for taunting a player before killing them. It is only available to players with a golden shield, as a reward for pre-ordering early enough.
Ty. Now I know why I can't do Smackdown :(
Fixxy
09-02-2010, 02:09 AM
What's a good counter to predator? Setup- or itemwise. What's an effective way of stopping him when he's farmed?
Spankporn
09-02-2010, 04:53 AM
What's a good counter to predator? Setup- or itemwise. What's an effective way of stopping him when he's farmed?
Focus him then have a SR ult him. Succubus can sleep after/before stonehide. She can also make him do alot less damage, so can CD etc.
Roflsocks
09-03-2010, 11:26 PM
What's a good counter to predator? Setup- or itemwise. What's an effective way of stopping him when he's farmed?
Stack armor instead of hp. His attacks do less damage, his passive lifesteal is also less effective, cutting down both the damage it does to you, and the healing it does to him.
Many heroes have skills that go through magic immunity, these are very effective against him, as he will often leap - magic immune, and gib your squishes when farmed. If you're paying attention, you can stun him right away, which buys time for your teammate to get away, as well as makes a good target for your team to focus fire. Without good hero picks to counter him, he likes to jungle. Ward the jungles, and send gank squads regularly. Especially if you keep his farm down early, he won't be terribly hard to kill.
In addition to skills that go through magic immunity, paying attention to his buffs, and applying cc as soon as his immunity wears off also works well. additionally, don't waste ground target skills around a pred when he is immune. It doesn't last long, and its important to land your skills, so you can burst him down.
Whitesock
09-06-2010, 07:54 PM
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=12333476#post12333476) What's a good counter to predator? Setup- or itemwise. What's an effective way of stopping him when he's farmed?
I like panda. His skills all go through spell immunity as they do physical damage.
XrBob
09-06-2010, 09:55 PM
I was vindicator playing against panda recently. I had my passive at level 4, yet he could still do flurry 4 times in a row and was not silenced, is that supposed to be like that?
pangbullen
09-07-2010, 09:57 AM
Hi, i need help. I have bought HoN and i have added the ports for my router BUT stil i cant see more then 4 servers on the list. Why and how can i fix this??
pangbullen
09-07-2010, 09:57 AM
BTW send me an email to jack_surell@hotmail.com if u can answer my question.
Drasha
09-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Hi, i need help. I have bought HoN and i have added the ports for my router BUT stil i cant see more then 4 servers on the list. Why and how can i fix this??
please post this in tech support.
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4
Nubb3r
09-08-2010, 05:59 AM
i have no concede/rmk button since i got a new screen and set my resolution to 1920x1080 ...
my friends tell me theres a small button at the score board but i have no button there ...
here is a picture
http://img199.imageshack.us/i/unbenanntds.jpg/
Decency
09-08-2010, 03:20 PM
I was vindicator playing against panda recently. I had my passive at level 4, yet he could still do flurry 4 times in a row and was not silenced, is that supposed to be like that?
Vindicator's passive is bugged right now, it's not silencing correctly.
i have no concede/rmk button since i got a new screen and set my resolution to 1920x1080 ...
my friends tell me theres a small button at the score board but i have no button there ...
here is a picture
http://img199.imageshack.us/i/unbenanntds.jpg/
Do you have mods loaded? If yes, update/uninstall them and then take another look. If not, you probably need to reinstall, you're obviously missing textures (the checkerboard patterns indicate this).
voidpredator
09-09-2010, 06:09 AM
i just reset my public stats and psr. this account was my bro's , now he's leaving it and i really wanna play it from the start (1500 PSR)
but now im down to
1379 psr
2.93 tsr
32% winning percentage
0.6 : 1 kdr
7 wins
15 loses
i dont know everytime im playing like any other decent players, im stuck anything that can turn me off gameplay-wise. today i got a nice teammate, 2:1 kdr and 2 guys in my team went to feed and just left. its always something like that.
not that im saying that i blame my teammates, me myself is not a pro, and sometimes do blunders ingame, but really i'm sick with people yelling to me to play as a babysitter, thus i believe them cause they have nice stats, even though i win my kdr is broke etc etc.
currently im undergoing a losing streak (8 loses already) and i dont want this to continue. im not a new player, but im not a good player already.
i've read Coolica's guide to winning pub games and Mewtwo's guide to improving PSR. but that didnt help me a lot, cause i've already know game mechanics like that. what im looking for is some advices / guides that makes me know how to handle pubbies, know how to disconnect when they've balanced the team etc etc.
i'm currently in a noob rage fest thinking that it may be worthless for me to spent my 20 bucks to reset the stats. i could've buy other thing. in my country that's not cheap.
and yeah, i have buddies and clans. it's when i play with them i get my wins. but i'm looking to increase my KD ratio too, i just cant play using killer heroes with them, they're better. and we're not always like online together in the same time.
TL;DR i wanna be better, but not in game mechanics, just like how to "understand" pub mechanics, what heroes to pick, when to disconnect even if the host already ab, what type of players to avoid etc.
thanks if any of you guys really reply this post. i really appreciate that.
Roflsocks
09-09-2010, 04:37 PM
i'm currently in a noob rage fest thinking that it may be worthless for me to spent my 20 bucks to reset the stats. i could've buy other thing. in my country that's not cheap.
This part is correct. It is worthless to reset your stats again, you will simply and promptly return to the same psr with similar stats, but with $20 less in your pocket. It makes sense to me to want to start fresh, when you took over the account. Don't go crazy with it though, you want to get better, and work your way back up one match at a time. If / when you do this, you can consider resetting your stats again, if you think you've improved enough, and would like your stats to better reflect your epeen.
Most people know that there are different hero roles, but they don't truly understand the hero roles. People get simple things. This hero is a carry, that one is a good initiator. But what they don't get is what their role on the TEAM is. That means things like, determining if your carry is competent, and if so, support him. Don't steal his farm, don't ks his hero kills. Go out of your way to hand him free kills you did 95% of the work on, because if he farms up, you'll win. Stack creeps in the jungle for your carry, place wards, set up ganks, PAY ATTENTION TO THE MINI MAP. Pay close attention to whether or not the other team can see you on their mini map. If its past the laning phase, and even some during laning, assuming if you're exposed, that someone will come flank you, attack you, and kill you. In the event that your carry is completely useless, you'll need more farm yourself to make up for it. Try to call out when a teammate needs to back, pubs often get overextended and are easily killed. Hopefully they'll listen, often they won't. Just be happy that you prevented some deaths, when you can.
POSITIONING. Its important. Don't run straight into an enemy. They'll run straight away, and you'll just chase until their backup arrives, and then you'll die. It sucks, don't do it. Instead, move around - without giving away your position, to a spot where you can attack from the side or behind, and then attack. Set these up with your teammates, so there is no good place to run.
Watch matches of players better than yourself, and watch your own matches. Do this from the perspective of someone who did well, and from a person on the other team. Try to notice why they did well, or why they didn't. Pay attention to things that worked, and things that didn't. One of the most useful replays I ever watched was a 2v2 I lost horribly, with a friend of mine. Every time we went somewhere, we just got obliterated. Upon watching the replay from the enemy team's perspective, I saw how obvious our movements were, and how easily the other team just walked up, knew where we were, and attacked. If you're going to expose yourself mid / late game at a creep wave. Do so briefly, and then back off. If you stay farming, you're simply asking to get ambushed.
I'm not sure how useful that was. You asked a pretty broad question, these are just the things that came to mind.
USvER
09-09-2010, 04:59 PM
Guyz how to make F1 work like in WC3?
Something like Q+F1+A+TARGET... as i used to in dota...
Volkova``
09-10-2010, 03:16 PM
Advices to counter swift early and late game ? I can't find any.
Roflsocks
09-10-2010, 05:15 PM
Advices to counter swift early and late game ? I can't find any.
He is still vulnerable to physical damage while he spins. Some heroes :pand::ramp: have skills that go through magic immunity, others have ults that do. If you are not going to outrun the spin, it is sometimes viable to stand there, and auto attack, you may or may not still die, but you've done more damage to swift, which enables your allies to help finish him off. Ranged heroes are good to keep pressure on him while he spins, as they can auto attack without taking damage themselves. The 400g magic armor item will help mitigate some of the damage from the spin, as well as being generally useful for defending from the rest of the team. Be mindful of a swift traveling around with a teammate that can lock you down while he eats your face. Stay out of their range, especially when you don't have much backup with you. Harass swift and his lane mate when they aren't in perfect positioning.
Late game, how dangerous swift is, depends largely on how fed you let him get. In order to prevent him getting too fed, make sure your team doesn't feed him in the lane. Pay attention to his farm, once he looks strong enough to easily solo the forest, make sure you send gank squads. Don't go in solo, or you'll probably get ulted on and die. Void talisman works nicely to counter his ult. Invis also works, but is more easily countered. As far as surviving his damage solo, you need hp and armor. His ult is physical, but requires a target to be alone to be most effective. Stay near teammates when you can. If a swift is chasing you, stay near your creeps if you can, it'll be safer.
and I almost forgot. Blink heroes work nicely against him. When he tries to spin or ult on you, simply blink away, return and kill him, or simply run away safely.
YawningAngel
09-10-2010, 08:22 PM
Double range and harass the crap out of him.
Chipmyster
09-11-2010, 12:39 PM
Panda :pand:
Is it better to take, 3 flurry, 1 flick, 1 cannon ball + ulti?
I was always taking, 1 flurry, 1 flick, 3 cannon ball + ulti due to having a stun or slow in the lane I found it far more devastating on people then flurry at least early on.
But I want to grab some opinions!
XrBob
09-15-2010, 11:40 PM
If you can effectively use both flick and cannon ball, then I'd say those are more useful early game. Using all three abilities requires more mana, and I'd say flurry is more useful later for farming and for when your strength is higher to make use of the scaling.
papwned
09-16-2010, 06:49 AM
in MM do you actually get a leaver if you "disconnect from the queue from this point forward"??????
i mean when all the players join and you can see them loading
RiskZero
09-16-2010, 02:26 PM
I've tried searching this but the results are needle in a haystack. Is there any added bonuses to the announcements when you get a double tap, hat trick, quad kill, blood bath, smackdown and annihilation. Also what is the criteria for blood bath?
I've heard you get extra money for some but I've never actually seen it like I do for Bloodlust kills (+200 gold).
Thanks!
Dragnmn
09-16-2010, 04:39 PM
I've tried searching this but the results are needle in a haystack. Is there any added bonuses to the announcements when you get a double tap, hat trick, quad kill, blood bath, smackdown and annihilation. Also what is the criteria for blood bath?
I've heard you get extra money for some but I've never actually seen it like I do for Bloodlust kills (+200 gold).
Thanks!
Bloodbath starts from the 10th kill in a row. There are no bonuses for you other than sounding cool. However, anyone killing you will get 50 gold extra per "streak level", so +50 for Serial Killer, +100 for Ultimate Warrior and so on, up to +400 for Bloodbath. This is not shown on the screen separately, but is included in the bounty you get for killing someone.
Smackdown is another story, it is entirely cosmetic. It's a "skill" you can use if you preordered early enough.
Fessu
09-20-2010, 02:14 PM
What is the SCHORTCUT or keybord combination to show/hide HP BARS in game?"?!?!
Sometimes when i press sth I see that all hp bars are gone and i need to go to setting tab and click it manually.
Decency
09-21-2010, 01:32 AM
What is the SCHORTCUT or keybord combination to show/hide HP BARS in game?"?!?!
Sometimes when i press sth I see that all hp bars are gone and i need to go to setting tab and click it manually.
'
To the left of enter.
Fessu
09-21-2010, 04:06 PM
Thanks a lot !!!!!!!
shibbidydoo
09-22-2010, 01:00 PM
For Chronos, whats the current item build up?
I used to go Marchers> Runed Axe > Steamboots > Elders > Savage Mace > Critshards
However, most discussions on Chronos i find: Steamboots> Elders > Savage Mace > Lux
So really, whats the most efficient item build on chronos these days?
gungan
09-24-2010, 12:54 PM
For Chronos, whats the current item build up?
I used to go Marchers> Runed Axe > Steamboots > Elders > Savage Mace > Critshards
However, most discussions on Chronos i find: Steamboots> Elders > Savage Mace > Lux
So really, whats the most efficient item build on chronos these days?
I like the http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=64274 build. I might just be delusional though.
You do want a little bit of mana regen for constant jump/ulti spamming so the battlefury fits in well.
`sicc
09-28-2010, 08:32 PM
Umm okay I have one question...
I am really new to modding HoN and I don't even know if this is considered a mod but I can't install skins for my game... They said just download it to heroesofnewerth/game/ but it won't let me install it there... Please help? :)
PartyBoy505
09-30-2010, 01:00 AM
Hi, what does thunderbringer's 3rd skill / passive do? Thanks
akiray
09-30-2010, 08:25 AM
Hi, what does thunderbringer's 3rd skill / passive do? Thanks
It does a dmg % of their current HP. So if you cast a spell on them it does the dmg of the Ability+%of their current hp in dmg. Hope it was clear enough =)
PH34RST3R
09-30-2010, 08:45 AM
question:
can you queue a spell after rampages charge?
PartyBoy505
09-30-2010, 07:16 PM
thanks
ive got a shitty question coz I dont know **** about DOTA
what is an orb and what context can it be put into in terms of hon
ty
huhuh
10-05-2010, 01:30 AM
ive got a shitty question coz I dont know **** about DOTA
what is an orb and what context can it be put into in terms of hon
ty
Attack modifiers more or less.
It's basically effects added to your attack like : mana burn, cold ( from frostburn / frostwolf ), life leech, lightnings etc ... . This is in dota though and you couldn't really stack any of the above except for some specific cases. In HoN, mana burn is not an orb effect i believe so you can have an attack that both steals life and mana burns.
Originally, these orb effects in Dota came from W3 "classic" items which were made unstackable, but it was locked in the engine so the dota makers could not really get over with it. Thus why cold was not an orb effect for range heroes ...
Kotbert
10-06-2010, 07:54 AM
Question:
If i put wards on enemies jungle-spawning points, will creeps spawn? and if not, do you think it may be a good strategie, to prevent enemies from jungling?
match making system finds 10 players but the game fails to start. is there a problem with it ?
EspritFort
10-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Question:
If i put wards on enemies jungle-spawning points, will creeps spawn? and if not, do you think it may be a good strategie, to prevent enemies from jungling?
No, creeps won't spawn, yes, this is a legitimate tactic.
YawningAngel
10-06-2010, 04:07 PM
question:
can you queue a spell after rampages charge?
I believe so.
Kotbert
10-07-2010, 02:29 AM
No, creeps won't spawn, yes, this is a legitimate tactic.
ty for fast response, ;)
chodenasty
10-08-2010, 01:07 AM
I tried looking for a post on this but couldnt find anything. Im sure there are tons of posts already but could someone tell me if backdooring is "illegal" or bannable?
and if so what are the limits to "backdooring" strats. can i attack the second tower if no creeps are near it? or is backdooring limited to in the base?
thanks ^_^
Decency
10-08-2010, 06:40 AM
Backdooring is completely a choice thing for almost everyone. Lots of players won't do it, but it's perfectly legitimate in HoN.
In some high level tournaments it's illegal to attack into the other team's base without creeps present. In any game you'll play, however, this is legal but often frowned upon.
Most of the time it's not worth it anyway, but if I win a teamfight and notice that my lanes are really far back I'll backdoor every time. The alternative is not getting the free towers. Later in the game this becomes even more important because towers drop very quickly and the damage they do is negligible.
OmgLolL2p
10-08-2010, 03:29 PM
Isn't it a bit overkill to for Blood Hunter to have a 16sec silence? Yes I know i get dmg boost, but that won't do much if I play Jeraz full support and my whole team depends on me and my spells.
WangBacon
10-08-2010, 03:31 PM
I personally will farm nonstop until it's absolutely NECESSARY to join the team in a large fight (for example, if they're pushing). It's also useful of course to gank IF the gank is in your farming area. Time is of the essence of course.
I completely agree with this. I was once playing MB and was too laggy to do anything, so I forested for about 15 minutes or so, and before I knew it, I had the Symbol of rage, and I'm pretty sure we won. Of course, whenever they'd push, I'd try and help by picking off the stragglers that would get away, but yeah.
Suwaaa
10-08-2010, 05:45 PM
y do some people stack runed axes, like on :glad:?
Doom_Whale
10-09-2010, 12:17 AM
Suwaaa y do some people stack runed axes, like on ?
People stack runed axes because mainly the splash damage stacks so 80 % then yes 120% splash but also it has nice regen and damage.
slowpoke`
10-12-2010, 01:17 AM
I know how runed axe works and that on tdl it is awesome because of the jump and all the hits you got. But on gladiator does it stack with Flagellation and makes that evry hit you got make splash damage?
Some_Random
10-12-2010, 05:42 AM
would zephyr make a good combo with keeper of the forest?
Decency
10-12-2010, 10:35 AM
I know how runed axe works and that on tdl it is awesome because of the jump and all the hits you got. But on gladiator does it stack with Flagellation and makes that evry hit you got make splash damage?
Yes. I prefer going Shroud+Riftshards but stacking Runed Axes is not terrible.
would zephyr make a good combo with keeper of the forest?
In lane, no, because they're both melee and that's almost always bad. In a teamfight, yeah, they work really well together.
LongDonSilva
10-14-2010, 09:58 AM
silther pwns?
any high level replays featuring him?
I know how runed axe works and that on tdl it is awesome because of the jump and all the hits you got. But on gladiator does it stack with Flagellation and makes that evry hit you got make splash damage?
They do stack, every attack with do the normal 40% physical splash.
When Flagellation procs it will still do the normal 40% physical splash but it will also do the 100% true splash.
WhiteRob
10-15-2010, 05:16 PM
silther pwns?
any high level replays featuring him?
I recommend looking up replays from Trixi. He is a very good Slither player.
monsterr
10-15-2010, 05:28 PM
silther pwns?
any high level replays featuring him?
he's in about 40% of every competitive match, go on honcast and just look through starting line ups until you see him.
also a tip, don't play slither like the pro's do in pubs, in pubs you want to play more as a semi carry focus on leveling toxity and poison spray and not wards.
DooMensen
10-17-2010, 01:19 PM
he's in about 40% of every competitive match, go on honcast and just look through starting line ups until you see him.
also a tip, don't play slither like the pro's do in pubs, in pubs you want to play more as a semi carry focus on leveling toxity and poison spray and not wards.
he is right couldent have said it better
Lasagna
10-17-2010, 11:13 PM
Whats the square root of 0?
Decency
10-18-2010, 03:00 AM
Whats the square root of 0?
Zero.
Mr`Imperator
10-18-2010, 04:50 PM
probably in the wrong section, but I still need help :/
I cant get my banlist to work.
I type /banlist add <name> <reason> and it says that it fails to add that certain someone. what am I doing wrong?
Gaza416
10-18-2010, 04:58 PM
why did you charge us more than any other AOS game in history to continue playing after beta, only to have a buggy game that crashes constantly, a wrecked MM system, and no map editor 3 months later?
please elaborate.
Yllegarn
10-21-2010, 03:03 PM
How does one deal with Bombardiers sticky bomb?
Is there any way of dispelling it or is the only way of avoiding it "dodging it"?
Webad
10-25-2010, 04:25 PM
Question about Behemoth's Heart.
For example, If Soulstealer has Behemoth's Heart his ultimate, Demon Hand, base damage etc. (all types of damage) have plus 10% ?
l34Um1
10-25-2010, 04:28 PM
Question about Behemoth's Heart.
For example, If Soulstealer has Behemoth's Heart his ultimate, Demon Hand, base damage etc. (all types of damage) have plus 10% ?
Exactly, though I don't recommend getting it on SS
Webad
10-25-2010, 05:37 PM
Ok, thank you. Why not Behemoth's Heart? Do you have guide about Soulstealer?
Decency
10-25-2010, 06:22 PM
Behemoth's Heart is okay as a luxury item but there are better choices that give both damage and hit points for early game that are also easier to farm. Geometer's Bane is the item of choice on pretty much every ranged Carry/Semi-Carry.
Ok, thank you. Why not Behemoth's Heart? Do you have guide about Soulstealer?
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=19114
Still by far the best overall SS guide I've seen. The item build is outdated, though. Most players nowadays are getting Bottle-->Power Supply-->Steamboots-->(Optional Frostburn, then split it up)-->Geometer's Bane-->Frostwolf's Skull.
This is because his ultimate takes a while to go off, it used to be fast enough that a Portal Key was enough. Some people like to use Assassin's Shroud to ultimate on top of people. Also, Shrunken Head definitely deserves a mention. Against teams that give you trouble with disables, you should definitely be picking one up at some point.
l34Um1
10-26-2010, 04:07 PM
Ok, thank you. Why not Behemoth's Heart? Do you have guide about Soulstealer?
It by no means is a bad item, it's just that there are better choices. In the later stages of the game SS mostly relies on his attacks to deal damage, his hands are only used to clear creeps and his Ult is mostly a slow and damage decrease.
Even though you could argue, that Behe increases his damage, it is really not that much, if you hit for 300 it's only 30, you are better off getting an actual damage dealing item. Also if you get to the point, that you got enough money to think about getting a Behe, you should consider getting more armor. Why that? Cause raw HP is only effective to a certain degree, if you hit around 2,5K HP getting armor gives you more EHP. Considering this, I would say, that if you really need more survivability and already are above 2K/2,5K HP get a Daemonic Breastplate. If you are below that, getting Behe is also not the best choice, since you probably don't have Frostwulfs or "The-Big-Lifesteal-whatever-it's-name-is-it-was-called-Satanic-in-DotA" you should get one of these. But that's just my honest opinion, maybe someone has an argument to get Behe that beats mine
Webad
10-27-2010, 02:07 PM
Okay,I'll take that cogitation into my build.:souls:
Mikina
10-30-2010, 03:24 PM
"The-Big-Lifesteal-whatever-it's-name-is-it-was-called-Satanic-in-DotA"
Symbol of Rage
m00nman
10-31-2010, 12:15 AM
I die entirely too much with every hero I play. I get so frustrated because I can't do decent with anyone. The only time I do OK is when my team is amazing. Once the game gets to the point where the first towers are gone I don't really know how to farm. Jungle seems not efficient and lanes too dangerous. I fall behind anywhere from 2-5 levels and just can't do anything the rest of the game. I don't really know what I'm doing wrong.
How does one deal with Bombardiers sticky bomb?
Is there any way of dispelling it or is the only way of avoiding it "dodging it"?
Dispelling it with a purge just triggers the explosion.
You can only avoid it with moves that make you invulnerable such as :Stormspirit: or magic immune with shrunken head.
l34Um1
10-31-2010, 06:18 AM
I die entirely too much with every hero I play. I get so frustrated because I can't do decent with anyone. The only time I do OK is when my team is amazing. Once the game gets to the point where the first towers are gone I don't really know how to farm. Jungle seems not efficient and lanes too dangerous. I fall behind anywhere from 2-5 levels and just can't do anything the rest of the game. I don't really know what I'm doing wrong.
Don't worry what you need will come with playing more: map awareness. Try to look once every 5 seconds on the minimap, count the heroes and if someone is missing play really safe and don't go to far away from your towers or team mates. Also try to carry always a TP scroll, it can get you out of though situations with ease.
If you want to stop feeding there are 2 things you need to do:
1. Stop playing carries, I know that everybody loves to rock end game, but they get focused early on and are the ones that need the most map awareness
2. Learn the basics. This may sound stupid, but you most likely don't realize the importance of wards, always carrying TP's and adjusting your item/skill build.
Just continue playing, you will get better if you play with people that are better than you are
m00nman
10-31-2010, 02:22 PM
Don't worry what you need will come with playing more: map awareness. Try to look once every 5 seconds on the minimap, count the heroes and if someone is missing play really safe and don't go to far away from your towers or team mates. Also try to carry always a TP scroll, it can get you out of though situations with ease.
If you want to stop feeding there are 2 things you need to do:
1. Stop playing carries, I know that everybody loves to rock end game, but they get focused early on and are the ones that need the most map awareness
2. Learn the basics. This may sound stupid, but you most likely don't realize the importance of wards, always carrying TP's and adjusting your item/skill build.
Just continue playing, you will get better if you play with people that are better than you are
I expected those things to come a long time ago. I've played the game coming up on two years. My friends who have been playing just as long are really good, but I just lag behind.
Webad
11-01-2010, 10:51 PM
Why Puzzlebox recipe have time ?
Why Puzzlebox recipe have time ?
Because when it didn't have a timer we'd have 10 lv3 puzzel boxes in one game.
A cooldown timer was placed for balance reasons.
potoBest
11-02-2010, 07:18 PM
How does one deal with Bombardiers sticky bomb?
Is there any way of dispelling it or is the only way of avoiding it "dodging it"?
jeraziah charm and accursed shield remove the bomb
Medzy
11-08-2010, 09:54 AM
if you are going for a fast sac stone say with torturer whats the latest time you should be getting it by?
FreudianTrip
11-08-2010, 10:04 AM
Does Mock propagate to Sand Wraiths illusions. If not why is it such a popular item on him?
Decency
11-08-2010, 07:38 PM
if you are going for a fast sac stone say with torturer whats the latest time you should be getting it by?
Ideally you want to be getting it before the big teamfights start happening. This is pretty rare though, especially since most of the heroes that the item is common on people wrongly dismiss as not needing farm: Torturer, Soul Reaper, Repulsor, and Defiler. Timewise, if it's your first real item I'd say you really want it before 30 minutes, but getting it by 20-25 isn't impossible because those heroes can all solo reasonably well and the buildup isn't particularly hard. If, like in most pubs, you're relegated to support duties with wards/courier too, say maybe 35-40 minutes.
Does Mock propagate to Sand Wraiths illusions. If not why is it such a popular item on him?
Yes, but it doesn't stack. It makes his illusions that much stronger and fits his role as a "tank carry" - the longer he is alive the more relative damage he'll do. This is mainly due to his Dissipate skill. Also- a lot of teams choose Sand Wraith to counter Portal-Key engaging heroes like Behemoth, Magmus, Tempest, etc. Mock lets him do this without being hit, as his dissipate won't damage enemies unless he actually takes damage.
And, obviously, the damage doesn't hurt as he is a pretty strong Chaser/Ganker.
skimm3
11-09-2010, 01:33 AM
Hello, who is the best babysitter for SW atm if u run a 2-1-2 setup?
Braelienthor
11-09-2010, 05:20 AM
Not sure if this is in the right thread, however.
How is experience calculated when you kill an enemy hero?
Dotamaster1
11-09-2010, 05:53 PM
I bought hon account a few months ago i payed my 30 dollars but now that taunt is available i cant use taunt, any help?
Decency
11-09-2010, 11:33 PM
Hello, who is the best babysitter for SW atm if u run a 2-1-2 setup?
There are a lot that have benefits in their own ways, the real "best" depends on the enemy team too.
It definitely needs to be ranged, some good options are Hellbringer, DSham, Glacius, Witch Slayer.
Not sure if this is in the right thread, however.
How is experience calculated when you kill an enemy hero?
Experience is split evenly among all nearby heroes. Higher level heroes give relatively more experience to be split, but it's a very obscure progression, not really a formula.
I bought hon account a few months ago i payed my 30 dollars but now that taunt is available i cant use taunt, any help?
You can't use taunt unless you pre-ordered.
Aceswe
11-10-2010, 06:30 AM
How do i download the test client?
EDIT
And what is the HoN IRC
Com3ToDie
11-19-2010, 11:22 PM
send me 1 beta key pls,e-mail:jackyong@live.com.my,i only ply tis 2 days only...than off edi...PLS..
dont`hurt`me
11-22-2010, 07:20 AM
not sure if the question belongs here but
what does behemoth's heart do on agiles?
It is said "+10% all damage".
It doesn't display that damgae though.
If I have say 100 basic damage and a runed axe + 60 damage
will i get + 16 damage?
will my nukes deal more damage if i am an agile hero and use heart?
All damage done, it doesn't show it with the numbers in the tool tips at all, but anytime you attempt to do damage as an agility hero with behemoth's heath it will be multiplied by 1.1
ORylai
11-25-2010, 11:31 PM
Is it better to deny a barracks (3rd) tower or leave it standing?
I've heard people often say to never deny this tower, whereas I thought it was better to always deny towers if able.
Thanks,
ORylai
crazysheep
11-25-2010, 11:41 PM
Is it better to deny a barracks (3rd) tower or leave it standing?
I've heard people often say to never deny this tower, whereas I thought it was better to always deny towers if able.
The idea behind not denying the rax (3rd) tower is to keep your rax invulnerable for as long as possible. By denying the rax tower you open your rax to creep attacks.
In this case you're better off not denying the rax tower.
ORylai
11-25-2010, 11:48 PM
Ah, that makes sense I suppose if the lane isn't being pushed by the entire enemy team, but exactly how much gold is each tower worth to the enemy team?
Ah, that makes sense I suppose if the lane isn't being pushed by the entire enemy team, but exactly how much gold is each tower worth to the enemy team?
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/wiki/index.php/Gold#Tower_Kills
The tower's protecting the barracks is tier 3.
rhem97_1
11-26-2010, 08:22 AM
Hello, I would like to know if there is a way to assign hotkeys for "learning skills", I searched in the game and didn't find anything that would allow me to do that!
Decency
11-28-2010, 07:45 PM
Hello, I would like to know if there is a way to assign hotkeys for "learning skills", I searched in the game and didn't find anything that would allow me to do that!
Bind your level-up abilities to hotkeys.
Open console(ctrl+f8) and type:
Bind SHIFT+Q LevelUpAbility 0
Bind SHIFT+W LevelUpAbility 1
Bind SHIFT+E LevelUpAbility 2
Bind SHIFT+R LevelUpAbility 3
-Allows you to quickly level up your abilities via hotkeys, which are more efficient than clicking.
However, I am not sure where to put this so that you don't have to do it every time you open the game. It would be nice if another poster could help.
Copying that into Startup.cfg should make it do that automatically every time you load the game.
rhem97_1
11-28-2010, 08:53 PM
Thanks guys, works like a charm (I copied it into the startup.cfg and also added LevelUpAbility 4 to skill attribute bonus) !
Savaii64
11-28-2010, 09:06 PM
Where can I find this startup.cfg file?
EDIT: Thank you Vahn1670. I was looking in the Program Files/Heroes of Newerth folder. Wrong place.
Depending on your operating system it will in a different spot.
* Win Settings: C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\My Documents\Heroes of Newerth\game\
* Win7 Settings: C:\Users\[user]\My Documents\Heroes of Newerth\game\
* Lin Settings:~/.Heroes\ of\ Newerth/game/
* Mac Settings~/Library/Application Support/Heroes of Newerth/game/
Weltraumaffe
11-28-2010, 10:05 PM
Good morning, I just bought the acc, how long must i wait to play...? Loggin into the game is not possible..
EspritFort
11-29-2010, 05:01 AM
Good morning, I just bought the acc, how long must i wait to play...? Loggin into the game is not possible..
There is not supposed to be a delay between purchase and activation of your account. You are able to play immediately. That basically leaves a technical issue. Make sure you're not behind a restrictive firewall or check
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=37
spdn4cr
12-04-2010, 02:53 AM
I just started playing wildsould and had a couple questions. I've read guids on the build, but at what point does one transfer the core items back to wild soul instead of the bear or does most of the core items stay on the bear? Also, if an enemy hero dies within the xp range of the bear but NOT wild will wild still get the XP or does the bear not give it to him. thanks!
DaddyWB
12-04-2010, 01:37 PM
Who shall i focus in battles?
Midnightoil
12-05-2010, 12:32 PM
There is no ONE build to wildsoul, there are many and because of his 12 item slots he can be very diverse. What do you mean by core items? and no WS will not get xp if someone dies near his bear.
Focus carrys in team battles
spdn4cr
12-06-2010, 12:30 AM
There is no ONE build to wildsoul, there are many and because of his 12 item slots he can be very diverse. What do you mean by core items? and no WS will not get xp if someone dies near his bear.
Focus carrys in team battles
Well, I was watching a chu replay and for most of the game all of the items were held by the bear. Then at some point mid/late game he transferred these items to WS instead. I was just wondering why that would be done and at what point that is decided? I'm assuming at some point WS's leveling makes him a better holder of the items than the bear...I guess it doesn't have to be core items, but just all items in general (w/ the exception of say boots or small items that the bear might need)
robbiek1
12-06-2010, 04:35 PM
Who shall i focus in battles?
The carry-squishy supports/disablers-tankier heroes
In that order.
~Robbie
EternlAnubis
12-06-2010, 10:07 PM
Why are friends being removed from my buddies list? we both don't know whats going on and we keep getting each other removed.
MrBigHuge
12-08-2010, 05:32 PM
In re: ws builds
Stacking attack speed on the bear can be good for a push strat, probably obvious and stated before but You can put a warcleft on there for you charged hammer right away then once you get the outer towers and buy other components swap it.
Synpanic
12-08-2010, 05:41 PM
What's the meaning of life?
AcMilan91
12-08-2010, 08:20 PM
when to get brutalizer or never,and with who??
Undutchable
12-09-2010, 08:20 AM
@ acmilan91
Just to make it simple, never.
There are certain exceptions with certain line ups in certain situations, but these are so limited that i can guarantee you that you and 99% of the hon community are better off without that item.
UlwaysUltra
12-09-2010, 01:45 PM
Where is witch slayer. Been wanting to play him but cant see him on the list.
See image http://i56.tinypic.com/vh9ooy.png
*Edit I see this might be the wrong section, Oops
Remove your mods, one of them is stopping you from seeing him :P
voidpredator
12-10-2010, 10:43 PM
currently, wheter i win or lose , i always have minus K/D
the total now is -80
any suggestions how to improve kdr the healthy way?
`shook
12-10-2010, 10:46 PM
currently, wheter i win or lose , i always have minus K/D
the total now is -80
any suggestions how to improve kdr the healthy way?
try to improve your skills as a player instead of your kdr
EternlAnubis
12-11-2010, 02:23 AM
how do I win a non stats game? EVerytime I play one I end up losing.
Whenever I play a stats game its more like a 50/50 chance if my team has good choices.
EebitOfFrost
12-14-2010, 03:51 AM
I'm sure it has been asked, but how would I go about uploading a custom avatar for my profile (I'm sick of the blacksmith)?
What are the differences between Premium accounts and regular (how would I go about upgrading)?
How do I enable taunting?
EpikOne
12-14-2010, 03:53 AM
So in resetting stats. If I checked all four options (Public Game Stats/PSR, Normal/Casual Mode), they will all be resetted for $20 right?
K0diak
12-14-2010, 07:24 AM
I'm pretty new, and haven't played any higher-tier games.
I've had amazing results with a lane consisting of engineer/pollywog, taking one level of keg and maxing tinker for push and keg spam. After Polly hits lvl6, we'd start taking down towers ASAP.
Does this work in higher level games?
oldgrandad
12-14-2010, 10:24 PM
Wondering how to enable new announcer mods? I bought the flamboyant one but can't hear it, where is the option to select it?
Edit, nvm found it in the vault on accident.
Catiot
12-16-2010, 07:10 AM
I played today with a pred in the team and he owned the game... The only thing is the predator's build, which was : started with 2 steamboots ( on strength ) and Elder Parasite. After that he made another 3 steamboots ( a total of 5 steamboots on strength and Elder Parasite ). And his final build : 4 steamboots, all on str, Elder Parasite and Brutalizer. At first ( when he had 2 steamboots and marcher for the 3rd steam ) i was laughing at him "haha nice build...you know that the movement speed does not stack" but then when he starts killing the entire team on his own i started wondering... Is it a good build on pred or the op team was way too stupid ?
Marach
12-16-2010, 08:04 AM
on some heroes building multiple steamboots can work because each rather cheaply provide +10 of some stat and with +25 increased AS (attack speed). having 4 of them gives +40 of some stat (STR/AGI/INT) and +100 attack speed (which is huge).
some of heroes it can work on, for example, are: predator, hammerstorm and nighthound.
predator and hammerstorm both gain increased HP pool (making them harder to kill) and damage from STR steamboots. hammer's damage benefits from STR items even more when under effect of his ulti. and increased AS is awesome on both as well. along with general DPS increase that AS provides, predator DPS (damage per second) also scales with AS due to his passive.
nighthound benefits a lot from AGI items (due to his passive) so he can hit for really high damage with steamboots set on AGI. and increased AS is also nice oh him as an auto-attacker.
although multiple steamboots can work, they probably won't be as good as having just one type of boots along with other items, especially if the game drags on. they cannot be upgraded to better items, like some items can. and each takes a slot in your inventory which could be used for a more expensive item that provides more.
Decency
12-16-2010, 08:14 AM
So in resetting stats. If I checked all four options (Public Game Stats/PSR, Normal/Casual Mode), they will all be resetted for $20 right?
Yeah, but don't bother. Assuming matchmaking actually comes out you can just start using that and no one will care about your public stats.
I'm pretty new, and haven't played any higher-tier games.
I've had amazing results with a lane consisting of engineer/pollywog, taking one level of keg and maxing tinker for push and keg spam. After Polly hits lvl6, we'd start taking down towers ASAP.
Does this work in higher level games?
The lane itself could be viable because pretty much any auto-stun plus Engineer is very strong, but in higher level games people will TP to towers that are getting pushed instead of just letting you kill them. Also, an Engineer that maxes Tinker is very weak in mid-game, when he's supposed to be strongest. Without turret his lane presence is also pretty low and so you probably won't be able to push the tower anyway.
I played today with a pred in the team and he owned the game... The only thing is the predator's build, which was : started with 2 steamboots ( on strength ) and Elder Parasite. After that he made another 3 steamboots ( a total of 5 steamboots on strength and Elder Parasite ). And his final build : 4 steamboots, all on str, Elder Parasite and Brutalizer. At first ( when he had 2 steamboots and marcher for the 3rd steam ) i was laughing at him "haha nice build...you know that the movement speed does not stack" but then when he starts killing the entire team on his own i started wondering... Is it a good build on pred or the op team was way too stupid ?
The other team was probably bad, but the build is okay, though less than ideal. It can be used to decent effect on Hammerstorm, Predator, Maliken, Night Hound, and maybe some others. Basically, it's cheap attack speed plus damage that's easy to assemble, and on STR heroes they also get 190 HP per pair of boots. It works well on Predator because he doesn't need a Portal Key or Shrunken Head, as he has both of those abilities in his skills.
Coordinated teams will just blast you down or initiate on you, but it's fun to pubstomp with.
Catiot
12-16-2010, 08:38 AM
4xsteamboots=4x1450= 5800 Gold for 100 AS+40 main attribute
Brutalizer= 3100Gold: +30dmg, +6str
Elder Parasite= 1900Gold: 17%lifesteal. Activation:+100AS, +20%dmg taken, +20%MS
Total = 10800 Gold: +100 AS, +46STR, +30dmg, +17% lifesteal.
Demonic Breastplate= 5550 Gold: 55 AS+15 Armor -5 Armor on enemies.
1xsteamboots= 1450Gold: 25 AS + 10 main attribute
Abyssal Skull= 2050Gold: +15% lifesteal, +5 Armor, +0.8% mana reg.
Shield Breaker= 4400Gold: +60dmg. On attack: -6 armor on enemies.
Total = 13450 Gold: +55 AS, +20 Armor, +10STR, +15%lifesteal, + 60dmg. On attack: -11 Armor on enemies ( -17 Armor with ulti).
It`s with 2650 Gold more expensive but you got more survivability, more damage and most important, enemies will get 5-15% damage reduction ( depends on their item build and hero ) which is a huge "plus" for pred and his teammates ( -5 Armor aura, +15% lifesteal melee aura, +15 AS aura ). And u got 2 free slots for... maybe a token of life and another very very late item like...Wingbow or Behe's Heart ( or another steamboot =)) ).
This is my usual build on predator. Can you leave reply if this is good or not ? And if not maybe a build suggestion. ( beside the one with 4 steamboots )
spdn4cr
12-17-2010, 01:59 PM
4xsteamboots=4x1450= 5800 Gold for 100 AS+40 main attribute
Brutalizer= 3100Gold: +30dmg, +6str
Elder Parasite= 1900Gold: 17%lifesteal. Activation:+100AS, +20%dmg taken, +20%MS
Total = 10800 Gold: +100 AS, +46STR, +30dmg, +17% lifesteal.
Demonic Breastplate= 5550 Gold: 55 AS+15 Armor -5 Armor on enemies.
1xsteamboots= 1450Gold: 25 AS + 10 main attribute
Abyssal Skull= 2050Gold: +15% lifesteal, +5 Armor, +0.8% mana reg.
Shield Breaker= 4400Gold: +60dmg. On attack: -6 armor on enemies.
Total = 13450 Gold: +55 AS, +20 Armor, +10STR, +15%lifesteal, + 60dmg. On attack: -11 Armor on enemies ( -17 Armor with ulti).
It`s with 2650 Gold more expensive but you got more survivability, more damage and most important, enemies will get 5-15% damage reduction ( depends on their item build and hero ) which is a huge "plus" for pred and his teammates ( -5 Armor aura, +15% lifesteal melee aura, +15 AS aura ). And u got 2 free slots for... maybe a token of life and another very very late item like...Wingbow or Behe's Heart ( or another steamboot =)) ).
This is my usual build on predator. Can you leave reply if this is good or not ? And if not maybe a build suggestion. ( beside the one with 4 steamboots )
You're missing a few things in your comparison. The +46 Str vs the +10 Str is huge. You said the second build has more survivability but remember that a +36 difference in strength on the multiboot build is a lot more hp and health regen not to mention this is an additional +36 damage that you didn't mention. So you are actually getting more +dmg on the boots build. You might as well remove the entire abyssal skull in the second build because that cost alone, when removed, is still less than the difference in the cost of the builds.
slowpoke`
12-21-2010, 01:40 PM
I have doing some kongor lvl 1, but allways we split the xp on 5 and when we try to make only one get it we fail. So please how to make one single hero lvl 5 and if some1 have any replays please show them. Like a TB soloing all the xp.
Marach
12-22-2010, 07:43 AM
I have doing some kongor lvl 1, but allways we split the xp on 5 and when we try to make only one get it we fail. So please how to make one single hero lvl 5 and if some1 have any replays please show them. Like a TB soloing all the xp.
I think you just have to make sure that, when TB kills kongor, others are not in the exp range (1000 units). so fight the kongor together until he is very low on HP, make sure all others get away and let TB kill it.
sebbecht
12-22-2010, 09:44 AM
So we see Glacius ALOT as as support in tournaments, my question is, is he valid as a support in public 1500-1600? The problem i see is that the carries may not have the skill to carry enough, to balance out the fairly uselessness of glacius' skills if he goes support. Ofcourse there is the aura and the imprisonment which the compeditive players make great use of, having glacius as a creepstacker, full aura and occasional imprisonments. Ill see other heroes as much better supports for these cases?
Can't find any info from Dampeer, please post or give a link. I would like all the stats and details.
Marach
12-23-2010, 04:54 AM
Can't find any info from Dampeer, please post or give a link. I would like all the stats and details.
http://www.hondb.com/?hero=dampeer
voidpredator
12-23-2010, 04:55 AM
okay, this may sounds retarded but..
how do i alt+tab in HoN on mac?
UnCliT
12-23-2010, 05:30 AM
Can someone suggest a build for DAMPEER? :damp:
Fnatic
12-23-2010, 10:24 PM
What happened to my vindicator guide????
hey, im wondering a regular game downloads & uplaods how much magabytes?
crazysheep
12-24-2010, 10:58 AM
hey, im wondering a regular game downloads & uplaods how much magabytes?
If I'm not mistaken a regular 45 minute game uses around 20MB. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Slaxys
12-24-2010, 02:03 PM
was wondering how to see the duration of status effects (ex. invis, heal, ...). I remember it used to be above your life bar but it's not there anymore.
ElectricAxe
12-25-2010, 09:12 AM
What are the critical elements of a successful trilane, aside from, obviously, going 3 ppl in one lane?
Dragnmn
12-25-2010, 10:40 AM
Basically the two support heroes have to punish the opponents for getting close at all, effectively turning it into a 1v0 lane for the carry. This also involves the carry and the supports killing anyone getting too close. This means the supports have to make sure they don't die to whatever the opponent throws at you.
ElectricAxe
12-25-2010, 06:31 PM
Basically the two support heroes have to punish the opponents for getting close at all, effectively turning it into a 1v0 lane for the carry. This also involves the carry and the supports killing anyone getting too close. This means the supports have to make sure they don't die to whatever the opponent throws at you.
Thank you.
Decency
12-26-2010, 04:55 PM
What are the critical elements of a successful trilane, aside from, obviously, going 3 ppl in one lane?
There's a lot that goes into it. A good part of what I learned I got from this DotA walkthrough: http://www.dotacommentaries.com/index.php/luminous/3882, the rest from watching a lot of replays.
Focuses:
1. Two heroes who are very item and level independent, as they will be getting virtually no gold outside of Passive/Assist gold for a while. Heroes like this are :vood::andr::glac::witc::nymp::plag::hell::deme:; the first four being more common due to their stuns. You can also use heroes such as :magm::behe::engi: due to their long range stuns in more offensive tri-lanes, these heroes will generally start roaming pretty early. Theoretically, you can also add :keep::accu::jera: for their defensive capabilities, but I haven't seen it used yet in HoN.
2. A hero who can dominate the mid-game with decent quick early farm. This hero should have high base armor as a lot of the damage in 3v3 lanes is from auto-attacks. Examples are :swif::pest::pand::dark::nigh::glad::fors:. Some teams have also been using :pebb: just because he's so dominant with a quick blink dagger. This hero is going to be the most exposed one because he'll essentially be the only one last hitting.
3. Two heroes who can solo well, safely. :valk::wret::bubb::valk::phar::madm:, etc.
4. Support heroes need to be doing something. A lot of low level tri-lanes fail because of this reason. For example, if the other team gives you a free lane, the supports need to start roaming and ganking other lanes; 1v0 is as good as 3v0 for helping your carry farm. Also, stacking neutrals, warding properly to prevent ganks from the most common enemy routes, etc.
Iskand
12-27-2010, 06:10 PM
Which smack downs are humiliations ?
pk_thunder
12-27-2010, 06:17 PM
Which smack downs are humiliations ?
humiliations are when you taunt someone and then die I'm pretty sure
Iskand
12-27-2010, 06:21 PM
This is smackdown...
Smackdown is when you taunt someone and then you kill the taunted person. A humiliation, if I remember correctly, is when you taunt someone, but then the taunted person kills you. It also might just be when you taunt someone and die yourself, I don't recall.
Decency
12-27-2010, 10:17 PM
Smackdown: You taunt, you kill them.
Humiliation: You taunt, they kill you.
I don't think English is his first language. =p
Iskand
12-27-2010, 10:26 PM
@Nust/Decency
Ok, thanks.
@Decency
Indeed, but I know it enough to understand everything what is written here.
_SeedHeart_
12-27-2010, 11:05 PM
I really liked ophelia a lot.... i do hybrid buil over her ( battle and support )... just so u know im really not that good in controling more multiple characters so... i dont get 3rd skill..
the items that i usually get are
- AstroBlade
- Ghost marchers
- Shamans headdress
- Charged hammer
- Frostfield plate
i wanted to explore something than my usual
_SeedHeart_
12-27-2010, 11:19 PM
... i was playing DOTA for 3 years now... Chronos and Void is pretty much equal though.. they have same skills and what not.. it will still depend on the player... both are hard to feed in early and mid... but as soon as u get core items in between early and mid game ...
- Threads and frenzy - plus ulti... then you had ur 70% of wining ^^
Decency
12-28-2010, 03:05 PM
seedheart, someone answered your question in the other thread you asked in:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=12812281#post12812281
SuperFriends
12-30-2010, 01:28 PM
How do I play vs defiler mid with another ranged hero?
I find that anytime I try to get away from a straight line (creeps > me) defiler just moves also, and her ridic size makes it hard to dodge.
`Clarityy
12-31-2010, 02:44 PM
@Superfriends
Play like you would against a tb, after bottle(on most heroes) get a mana battery and keep sending regen to yourself. Rune control is very important against defiler, she doesn't really have anything for it except for her extra speed from her passive.
And as you said, try to anticipate waves, either you get hit, or the creeps get hit, not both.
yoonie
01-02-2011, 12:38 AM
Does push tablet work on someone with shrunken head activated? Basically, can i cancel a vj ult with push tab when he has shrunken on?
I'm wondering about suicidal missions, if there are such things. Is it ever worth it to sacrifice yourself to achieve something? Like, if I'm glacius (Glacia, only play female version), and I can take down a tower but it will most likely cost my life, should I do it? I mean, my whole team gets 315 * 5 gold, they get 230 or something like that.
Dragnmn
01-03-2011, 02:07 PM
I think it is, if you are sure to get the kill, and ideally have spent most of your gold. Since you don't really mind the death for yourself and it gives your team a huge amout of gold. I haven't really faced this yet, but when it comes to hero kills I'm generally happy with a 1:1 tradeoff if an item-dependent hero goes down with me.
Decency
01-03-2011, 02:39 PM
I'm wondering about suicidal missions, if there are such things. Is it ever worth it to sacrifice yourself to achieve something? Like, if I'm glacius (Glacia, only play female version), and I can take down a tower but it will most likely cost my life, should I do it? I mean, my whole team gets 315 * 5 gold, they get 230 or something like that.
If it will otherwise be denied, you should do this every single time without fail no matter what. If there's a good chance you won't get the last hit (TP's are going to arrive before tower falls, they have aegis up and plenty of time to kill you, etc.) you have to make a decision. If you're sure you can kill the tower before they can get to you though, your death is easily worth it.
However, if it won't be deniable, you have to think of towers as gold waiting to be taken. Yeah, your team earns around 1500 gold, but you'll earn that gold no matter what as long as you take the tower at some point. So in that sense, it's not worth dying because you can always come back later when there's no risk of enemies killing you.
sancho_mic
01-03-2011, 04:30 PM
Hi,
Is there any way we could get an email notification when a clan member/friend goes online in Hon?
If this is currently not part of Hon, is there any plan for doing this in the near future (1-3 months)?
If not, what options one has in order to implement such mechanism?
Thanks!
Thanks for the responses =) It's common sense then after all.
Dragnmn
01-04-2011, 06:44 AM
Hi,
Is there any way we could get an email notification when a clan member/friend goes online in Hon?
If this is currently not part of Hon, is there any plan for doing this in the near future (1-3 months)?
If not, what options one has in order to implement such mechanism?
Thanks!
I can only help you on the first question: no. It's not possible. Since I'm not part of S2 I can't say anything about the second one and since I'm not a modder I can't help you with the third one either. I can say this though: it would be very annoying. I'm in HCTc, and there are usually from 30 to 70 members online at any given time. Getting emails sent for each and every one of them would be very annoying, so it'd have to be customizable for whom you'd want it.
Milzberry
01-04-2011, 01:12 PM
What is the best carry to use for carrying noobs. I have a 1.5 kdr and average 2.2 assists per death a game. Overall, I feel I always hold my own in games yet my mmr has dropped to 1330. I feel like I need to start playing heroes that can single handedly win games if farmed correctly. Only thing is I've never actually jungled from the start of games and don't really know how to creep stack and other things like that. So really what I'm asking is, what is the easiest hero to carry in noob games with and basically win by myself.
sancho_mic
01-04-2011, 03:57 PM
Thanks Dragnmn. I'm part of small clan, that's why i believe would be very helpful to have some notifications when members are online. I agree it has to be somehow configurable so that bigger clan members will not consider this an annoyance.
If not email notifications, maybe some other mechanism? (e.g some android widget that will show the online clan members).
Thanks anyhow, cheers!
Decency
01-04-2011, 06:08 PM
What is the best carry to use for carrying noobs. I have a 1.5 kdr and average 2.2 assists per death a game. Overall, I feel I always hold my own in games yet my mmr has dropped to 1330. I feel like I need to start playing heroes that can single handedly win games if farmed correctly. Only thing is I've never actually jungled from the start of games and don't really know how to creep stack and other things like that. So really what I'm asking is, what is the easiest hero to carry in noob games with and basically win by myself.
:souls:
:warb::wild: if you're in really low games because people will just ignore you and you can come out of the jungle 30 minutes later and roll people over.
Also worth mention are :corr::pupp::fors:.
For non-carries, :pebb::glad::devo::fayd::phar: can just gank non-stop and make people concede even when they have a decent shot at winning because you're so far ahead.
Above all, the best way to win noob games is :WardOfSight:.
Sporx
01-04-2011, 07:26 PM
I purchased an alternate avatar how do i activate it ? It doesn't give me the option in the vault and i can't seem to do it from the hero selection screen.
DarkAssassin
01-04-2011, 09:38 PM
:arac:I just want to know why Arachna's ult is superior magic against magic immune?
it seems cheap to target the unit that is magic immune.
pk_thunder
01-04-2011, 09:42 PM
:arac:I just want to know why Arachna's ult is superior magic against magic immune?
it seems cheap to target the unit that is magic immune.
http://honwiki.net/wiki/Spider_Sting
it's physical, always has been...
the slow is regular magic so with a bkb it shouldn't slow you but this was one of the reasons why when :souls: was a ridiculously popular hero that :arac: was also picked up a lot because it's a good counter to him.
Decency
01-05-2011, 12:00 AM
What spots do I need to hit and at what time frame to stack Ancients with Pharaoh's Tormented Soul?
Dragnmn
01-05-2011, 09:00 AM
It cannot be done in the vault, since you might want to use the original avatar as well. When selecting a hero with the alternate avatar option, a screen should pop up where you can select it.
What's a good build for voodoo? It's easy to get chalice and striders, and to keep buying wards and stuff, but then what? Sometimes :VoidTalisman: is fitting, but if I just want some survivability and mana regen, what's a good item? :Puzzlebox:?
Decency
01-05-2011, 08:10 PM
What's a good build for voodoo? It's easy to get chalice and striders, and to keep buying wards and stuff, but then what? Sometimes :VoidTalisman: is fitting, but if I just want some survivability and mana regen, what's a good item? :Puzzlebox:?
Usually SotM + Shrunken Head. He can farm neutrals and even ancients well thanks to his cask, so if you don't see gank opportunities and wards are up don't be afraid to farm a bit, he gets scary when he has those two items. He's played a lot differently in high tier games than pretty much everywhere else, due to tri-lanes.
Usually SotM + Shrunken Head. He can farm neutrals and even ancients well thanks to his cask, so if you don't see gank opportunities and wards are up don't be afraid to farm a bit, he gets scary when he has those two items. He's played a lot differently in high tier games than pretty much everywhere else, due to tri-lanes.
Sounds like I just have to increase my gpm then, I can never afford a SotM in a game.
Decency
01-06-2011, 08:15 PM
It's rare that you'll get both, but you should definitely be able to piece together a SotM in pubs.
GotDaLolz
01-07-2011, 01:49 PM
If you are playing an AP NM MM game with a team of 5, and are banking on the other team being equally skilled, however not organized or communacative with each other, what is the best line-up of heroes for your team?
We were doing :plag:, :chro:, :magm:, :legi:, :bomb: for a while, and just never separating once we hit level 6 and had an ulti-fest teamfight each encounter. We stomped, however I'm n00b so I'm positive this isn't the best combo.
I would love to here any idea for the best hero line-up for ulti based teamfights? Focused mainly Midgame.
CatInHat
01-07-2011, 10:36 PM
How do I request my draft guide to be moved into the guides section? I still have a ways to go on finishing it up, but it's at a point where I'd like to start getting feedback.
CatInHat
01-07-2011, 10:38 PM
If you are playing an AP NM MM game with a team of 5, and are banking on the other team being equally skilled, however not organized or communacative with each other, what is the best line-up of heroes for your team?
We were doing :plag:, :chro:, :magm:, :legi:, :bomb: for a while, and just never separating once we hit level 6 and had an ulti-fest teamfight each encounter. We stomped, however I'm n00b so I'm positive this isn't the best combo.
I would love to here any idea for the best hero line-up for ulti based teamfights? Focused mainly Midgame.
<:legi: and >:temp:
If you want a pk ult disable, that's the better call. His ult is FAR larger and lasts a full 4 seconds.
Evangelos
01-08-2011, 07:28 AM
What items should I get for Tempest if I plan to stay longer in forests?
CatInHat
01-08-2011, 09:35 AM
blood chalice, manapots, bottle, or ring of the teacher. Any of the above will solve your problem. If you start out with crushing claws and the int version, you can still buy a courier and 2 manapots. Bring yourself a trinket to finish the blood chalice when you hit 350 gold and then you technically have infinite mana. You can pick up any of the other mana items above to keep you in the woods if blood chalice isn't enough.
Suwaaa
01-09-2011, 02:00 AM
is it viable to leave :doct: ult at level one through out the game? i mean u wont get places as quick, but i think its sufficient enough to run away from danger, initiate, and it uses up less mana so chasing with the ult is less mana intensive (i.e. while chasing a hero down, ult a lil, hit them so static snares them, ult again, snare again, repeat)
Iskand
01-09-2011, 03:12 AM
Humiliation number in Statistic counts humulitations that we did to somebody or that were done to us ?
Suwaaa
01-09-2011, 03:26 AM
u did to someone else
ranmaMUSE
01-09-2011, 03:40 AM
i cant find any rooms :( please help
Decency
01-10-2011, 03:11 AM
What items should I get for Tempest if I plan to stay longer in forests?
Blood Chalice and Bottle. Start out with a couple of mana pots but after you get those two items you shouldn't need more. Ring of the Teacher is more for laning, as you don't need the armor to jungle and the mana regen is very low for its price. Generally I start with :Courier: :CrushingClaws: :MarkOfTheNovice: :ManaPotion: :ManaPotion:, quickly bring myself :TrinketOfRestoratio, then grab a Bottle and Boots. You should be ganking sporadically, don't just sit in the jungle.
is it viable to leave :doct: ult at level one through out the game? i mean u wont get places as quick, but i think its sufficient enough to run away from danger, initiate, and it uses up less mana so chasing with the ult is less mana intensive (i.e. while chasing a hero down, ult a lil, hit them so static snares them, ult again, snare again, repeat)
It costs the same amount of mana over a distance, although you'll regenerate slightly more since you're moving more slowly. I'd say no because the speed of your ultimate is one of the things that makes you such a strong ganker. The increased damage of higher levels of the ultimate is also nothing to scoff at. Your teamfight presence (jump around, jump around!) is also heavily reliant on your ability to keep ulting and dodging everything.
i cant find any rooms :( please help
Most people are using matchmaking nowadays, since it's proven to be a lot faster than public games. Give that a try.
Pilsneren
01-10-2011, 04:21 PM
hey i need the shortcut key for the options menu if any 1 can provide please ?
reason and if not possible
i just plugged my com, with a HDMI from my old VPA or what it is called cable, and all my games works 100% untill i started HoN where i am now missing top panel + the options bar AkA missin some of the screen, so i can't enter the option menu any idea how to sort it if you can't provide the hotkey for Options ??
quick answer appriciated
P.S. Yes i have tried changing the resolution on desktop...
pk_thunder
01-10-2011, 09:30 PM
Portal Key is still stronger than Shroud on SS still right?
Decency
01-11-2011, 07:09 AM
Yeah, people seem to be getting that and Shrunken Head over Geometer's Bane again, I'm not sure what prompted the change.
Suwaaa
01-11-2011, 03:28 PM
pk over shroud for: 1) better positioning 2) harder to counter
shrunken so he can survive after he pops up in the middle of nowhere and/or to not get ult interupted. Probably.
BlueWand
01-11-2011, 07:25 PM
What was the CD reduction on behemoths heart for int characters?
What was the CD reduction on behemoths heart for int characters?
15% reduction, it is still that currently.
Yoshi0p
01-12-2011, 11:07 AM
Hi i usually use the hotkey F1 to center the screen on my hero or just double press F1 for it but it would really help if you could center an allys hero with another hotkey like:
F2 - player 2 in your team
F3 - Player 3 in your team
F4 - Player 4 in your team
F5 - Player 5 in your team
This is what it used to be in WC3 when played the original game :)
Is there any way to create a hotkey for this?
I have a hotkey for lvling up abilities which in default is not customable
Decency
01-13-2011, 03:46 AM
You'd have to have them share control with you, I believe. =/
Excil
01-13-2011, 04:12 AM
hey i need the shortcut key for the options menu if any 1 can provide please ?
reason and if not possible
i just plugged my com, with a HDMI from my old VPA or what it is called cable, and all my games works 100% untill i started HoN where i am now missing top panel + the options bar AkA missin some of the screen, so i can't enter the option menu any idea how to sort it if you can't provide the hotkey for Options ??
quick answer appriciated
P.S. Yes i have tried changing the resolution on desktop...
F10 :jera:
Best way to get out of the 1400 mmr mess?
itwasntmeo_O
01-15-2011, 12:14 PM
Find friends who dont suck, or carry really hard :)
I'm somteimes having problem with positioning as a team. Are there any basic pointers to keep in mind when trying to figure where to push (except for watching creepwaves), where to move when the field is inactive (as in you don't see any enemy heroes and the team is spread out) and when you should try to kong?