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[TriPoison]

skill build for engi?

[AcMilan911]

what key do u use for inventory items by default or?

[YawningAngel]

skill build for engi?
http://www.gamereplays.org/heroesofnewerth/portals.php?show=page&name=heroes-of-newerth-engineer-guide

Everything I have to say on this subject.

[YawningAngel]

what key do u use for inventory items by default or?
Default.

[Twiggie]

How does attack speed work?

How much does 100 attack speed (for example) increase your attacks per second by?

the formula for attacks/second is afaik
BAT/(AS/100)
where BAT is your base attack time, usually 1.7 seconds.
you start with 100 attack speed, so the formula will give 1.7 seconds at the start, for most heroes.
therefore, doubling attack speed will double your dps, by halving your attack time
however, once you have 200 AS, you need to add another 200 AS to double your damage.

[`Sera]

Is there a way to seperate stacks of items?
Like if I want to give a rune of blight to somebody, but I have 5, how do I give him only 1?

[kumakum13]

can anybody help me please

[FlyingFury]

Is there a way to seperate stacks of items?
Like if I want to give a rune of blight to somebody, but I have 5, how do I give him only 1?

currently there is no way to do something like that yet but i believe they will put it in sooner or later

[Neru]

can anybody help me please

You've made an account, just download the client, install HoN and log in. Open Beta ends in 3 days though.

[Lanzer]

Why would S2 make killing mega creeps worth less xp & gold? That seems backwards and counterproductive to good gameplay. Just looks like the snowball is getting even bigger without much reason, making it a point of no return.

[Pwnograhpy]

Why would S2 make killing mega creeps worth less xp & gold? That seems backwards and counterproductive to good gameplay. Just looks like the snowball is getting even bigger without much reason, making it a point of no return.
Isn't that the whole point..? To give the enemy more advantadge than ever the sooner they rax them and when 1 does go down in the first place any way.

[Yoshi0p]

At wednesday May 12 will all stats be reset then?
Does it matter if you had pre-purch or not?

[TriPoison]

Why the **** can't I log into any of my accounts? It just says log in failed.

[tanta]

3.) What will happen with stats, replays, PSR, and SMR after retail?
All stats will be reset upon release. Also all historical data of previous matches, including replays, will be purged. SMR and PSR (the ratings used for match making and public games) will be compressed, bringing all accounts closer to 1500 as we feel this will positively impact gameplay and team balances post release.

[dontplayearL]

anyone have a min map ss where to place wards ? id like to get good at placing wards of sight and also if i random keep of the forest i wanna know where to throw my eyes to not block nuetrals but to ward enemy forest and runes etc.. Let me knoW! thanks for reading!

[EspritFort]

anyone have a min map ss where to place wards ? id like to get good at placing wards of sight and also if i random keep of the forest i wanna know where to throw my eyes to not block nuetrals but to ward enemy forest and runes etc.. Let me knoW! thanks for reading!

http://www.hondb.com/?wards
http://www.hondb.com/?wards2

[`Sera]

Can you remove flight from pestilience?

[Benny0]

How do I deal with Wretched Hag mid? I was Forsaken Archer, she teleported and I died. Couldn't run fast enough. Couldn't outlane her due to threat of teleport and death. After I died twice my entire team just said I fed her and she ganked everybody else lol.

[LightRain]

Can you remove flight from pestilience?

yes, with purge effects


How do I deal with Wretched Hag mid? I was Forsaken Archer, she teleported and I died. Couldn't run fast enough. Couldn't outlane her due to threat of teleport and death. After I died twice my entire team just said I fed her and she ganked everybody else lol.stay at full health so she can't towerdive you. try to keep the creeps close to your ramp so you can towerhug. use a mana battery. if all else fails, spend 400 on magic armour.

dunno about runes though. your nuke is a root so it stops her blink, but I'm pretty sure she still has better rune control than you. make sure to keep wards up I guess, so your sidelanes don't have a nasty surprise.

[dontplayearL]

Thanks EspritFort!

Would anyone want to make one of those ****ing sweet avatars for my signature so i can post k:D/psr n stuff? That would be bomb!

[`Sera]

I meant if you're playing pesti

[LightRain]

I meant if you're playing pesti

No, you can't remove activated buffs from yourself, and even though it makes you take more damage, it counts as a buff.

[Flester]

Does Riftshard crit during Pandas ultimate?

[pk_thunder]

it should, it's just an stun + auto attacks with + 30/70/120% base dmg

[Chreasures]

If I purchase the game today, will I still be able to get taunt later for free or will it be a one time thing for people who purchase it later during some sort of promotional period, is there a time where they will allow people to get it?

[`Sera]

Can somebody explain to me what bottling a rune is? I've seen people pick up runes and sue them later, which I presume bottling it is, but how do you do it?
How long do the runes last?

[sikata]

i got a hugh problem since the new patch, i am getting a so called "Delay/freeze Lag".
when i am moving and clicking around my hero, it can take 2-3 seconds for the Hero to respond to my commands, am i the only one with the problem or is it more out there having it?

[mikelorus]

Can somebody explain to me what bottling a rune is? I've seen people pick up runes and sue them later, which I presume bottling it is, but how do you do it?
How long do the runes last?
First, buy a bottle. When the bottle is empty, you can select it, then target a rune, thereby putting the rune in the bottle. It stays there for 2 minutes, at which point it will automatically be used. Of course you can always press bottle to use it before then.

When you use it, your bottle magically becomes full again.

[`Sera]

Thanks, Mike.

[Brozzok]

I was at first playing Keeper with Nome's as one of my first items, but I'm not sure that's such a good idea anymore.

I had an idea of keeping a Ring of the Teacher and rushing towards a manatube then post haste, followed by restoration stone and other such luxuries, but I have no idea if that's even remotely viable. Would someone mind giving some feedback?

[Meowshi]

Many people will tell you to rush a resto stone on Keeper. I don't believe in this.

I think you should get Astrolabe, Barrier Idol, Tablet of Command, (Puzzlebox)- Support items. After you've finished maybe 2/4, then start working on your resto stone. Wards are important (In conjunction with your eye wards, especially if they're cutting them down, maybe not so much if they aren't)

[Bokus]

Is there a website that has like hero guides I found some but I came across when that was updated to 0.3.6 but cannot seem to find it more. If someone knows would like to know.

[pk_thunder]

Is there a website that has like hero guides I found some but I came across when that was updated to 0.3.6 but cannot seem to find it more. If someone knows would like to know.
http://www.hondb.com/

best HoN data site ever

they have guides, but they are few, still nice tho

[themonkeyis]

how do you make a clan?

[Bohun]

how to download a replay from http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/ ???

[pk_thunder]

how to download a replay from http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/ ???
you have to go on the game itself, go to recent games, find match id, then on the bottom there's a download button

otherwise they'll fix it soon

[Bohun]

so i cant dl replays from the site? i want to watch others replays :/

[Brozzok]

so i cant dl replays from the site? i want to watch others replays :/

You can- you simply need to find the match ID of the game you want to watch and type it in at the bottom of the screen. Once there you can download the replay.

[pk_thunder]

You can- you simply need to find the match ID of the game you want to watch and type it in at the bottom of the screen. Once there you can download the replay.
d/ling from site is down atm

[Master_Kenth]

Why is riftshards a bad item om Madman? Isn't that good for his high as. I never see anyone recommend it and I think I even saw it in a 'worst build' topic.

[pk_thunder]

Why is riftshards a bad item om Madman? Isn't that good for his high as. I never see anyone recommend it and I think I even saw it in a 'worst build' topic.
http://www.hondb.com/?ability=gash

it doesn't stack with riftshards =.=

[Master_Kenth]

http://www.hondb.com/?ability=gash

it doesn't stack with riftshards =.=

Same goes for Scout? And any other passive criter like Swift?

[Neru]

Same goes for Scout? And any other passive criter like Swift?

The crits stack (even madmans Gash and Swiftblades Way of the Sword) but they stack weirdly and it makes it unfavourable. Scout's would be the same, just get Shieldbreaker/Runed Axe and have done with it.

[pk_thunder]

The crits stack (even madmans Gash and Swiftblades Way of the Sword) but they stack weirdly and it makes it unfavourable. Scout's would be the same, just get Shieldbreaker/Runed Axe and have done with it.
they stack?

or is it just a special case that :pupp:'s doesn't stack

or am I giving out horribly wrong info >.>?

[Drasha]

5. Criticals:

Works with diminishing returns.

When multiple Criticals are made on the same attack, the source with the highest critical mulitplier takes precedence.

Criticals are capable of multiplying the damage from a couple of sources that don't directly affect your listed attack damage:

Righteous Strike (Jeraziah)
Backstab (Night Hound)
Pounce (Night Hound)
Assassin's Shroud

riftshards will work with all of puppet masters attacks except the ones that have wipe lash. The reason for this is because before wipe lash could proc rift shards basically giving you a crit that crit and it was way to much damage to be balanced.

[VickVega]

Here is my question,

How far is 1000 range in HON? Can you post pic's?

For TB's passive which does 11% total life @ lvl 4. I don't know the range b/c the animation is hard to see. it's possibly TB's best skill and I want to use it effectively. How far is 1000 range? How can I learn more about the range system in Hon?

Thanks

Vega-

[Nouraa]

i have a quesiton :

how is the gold measured when you die as in how much do you loose to your buyback price the higher level you are the more gold you lose ..is it fixed? or is it a a number based on percentage of godl you have at the time? Thnx

[FlyingFury]

i have a quesiton :

how is the gold measured when you die as in how much do you loose to your buyback price the higher level you are the more gold you lose ..is it fixed? or is it a a number based on percentage of godl you have at the time? Thnx

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=62488&highlight=buyback+cost

that link will tell you all that and more

[GM]

how do i survive a pro corrupted mid

[Meowshi]

how do i survive a pro corrupted mid

Outpro him with a better mid.

Assume rune dominance

Dodge his corrupted tide

Know that once he uses his tide, he's naked outside of autoattacks for 17 seconds (unless he conduits you. Bad times man)

Know that all he has as an escape mechanism is his move speed

Have your allies gank him when he's going to the rune

does disconnecting in "no stats" games gives you leaver percentage?

[EspritFort]

does disconnecting in "no stats" games gives you leaver percentage?

Nope

[Mr`Imperator]

nomes on ophelia?
is it eligible?

[pk_thunder]

nomes on ophelia?
is it eligible?
ofc

it works on any support

[radicalomg]

How do u counter an extremely powerful earlygame combo? (slither/sb combo example)

[pk_thunder]

How do u counter an extremely powerful earlygame combo? (slither/sb combo example)
generally these combos requires skill spam

:vind: drains their mana
:ManaBattery: heals u for their spell use :D

otherwise u just have to play defensively and pull the neuts

[radicalomg]

generally these combos requires skill spam

:vind: drains their mana
:ManaBattery: heals u for their spell use :D

otherwise u just have to play defensively and pull the neuts

the manabattery doesnt help alot cause they usually chain no more than 5 skills, and the first combo usually devastates us too much. Slither/Sb for example, slither will continuously harass with autoattack whilst sb is last hitting and when we get too close, or when our creeps are too far (we are legion top lane) sb jumps into the forest and just waits for slither to initiate with spray, then he rapes us with ballerina-skill. This way we get no stacks to our manabattery/psupply

Vindi i can see as a possibility, but hes so insanely fragile.

Other than that an SR/Acc would be viable no?

[pk_thunder]

the manabattery doesnt help alot cause they usually chain no more than 5 skills, and the first combo usually devastates us too much. Slither/Sb for example, slither will continuously harass with autoattack whilst sb is last hitting and when we get too close, or when our creeps are too far (we are legion top lane) sb jumps into the forest and just waits for slither to initiate with spray, then he rapes us with ballerina-skill. This way we get no stacks to our manabattery/psupply

Vindi i can see as a possibility, but hes so insanely fragile.

Other than that an SR/Acc would be viable no?
if u don't have the picks to go up the best item counter is manabattery
vindi is always a strong pick in these combos, is doesn't matter his hp, if u know what ur doing he'll own the lane

[fakekoreann]

how do i counter legionnaires that rush/intercept the pull lane? this happened to me before as chronos, i think. legionnaire and accursed just went ahead of their creeps and tanked ours a little past the pull spot. i know this is a common tactic, but i'd like to get some tips on how to counter it.

assume that my hero is weak earlygame and melee (because otherwise they wouldn't do this). assume that mid is retarded (since this happened to me in a pub, and if it happens to me again in a pub, this will likely be the case).

what items would help me survive? what do i do, just farm at tower? any other tips?

thanks.

[Maxfpz]

What means with Sub-Account?

[Meowshi]

how do i counter legionnaires that rush/intercept the pull lane? this happened to me before as chronos, i think. legionnaire and accursed just went ahead of their creeps and tanked ours a little past the pull spot. i know this is a common tactic, but i'd like to get some tips on how to counter it.

assume that my hero is weak earlygame and melee (because otherwise they wouldn't do this). assume that mid is retarded (since this happened to me in a pub, and if it happens to me again in a pub, this will likely be the case).

what items would help me survive? what do i do, just farm at tower? any other tips?

thanks.

Never double melee lane. Ever. One range person, any ranged person, could have dismantled his tower skipping shenanigans. If your mid helped, he would have been far behind the other mid.


What means with Sub-Account?

Sub account is basically a new account with new name new stats, however you cannot log into both at the same time

[pk_thunder]

Sub account is basically a new account with new name new stats, however you cannot log into both at the same time
is editing your post hard?

[EspritFort]

is editing your post hard?

This is a very good question!

It is, in fact, not hard at all. =P



Also, you can use the multi-quote function (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif). In that case you won't have to edit your post at all.

[Anla`Shok]

I feel stupid asking this, but I've always wondered...

What exactly does :valk:'s Ult do? The description just says it applies "Stealth" to all allies. But the enemy heroes can clearly see them.

[Drasha]

I feel stupid asking this, but I've always wondered...

What exactly does :valk:'s Ult do? The description just says it applies "Stealth" to all allies. But the enemy heroes can clearly see them.

http://www.hondb.com/?ability=valkyries-prism
Prism Effects
Stealth with 2.5/2/1.5 second fade time
Does not expire from attacking or using abilities

you are stealthed as long as you do not attack or use abilities. If you do attack or use an ability you become visible for 2.5/2/1.5 seconds and then become stealthed again.

[pk_thunder]

I feel stupid asking this, but I've always wondered...

What exactly does :valk:'s Ult do? The description just says it applies "Stealth" to all allies. But the enemy heroes can clearly see them.
what drasha said, but the problem u most likely have here is the fact that it requires 2.5/2/1.5 seconds before u actually become invis (without atking/using item/skill) for u to invis right after you cast it so if ur vs a lot of stun u shouldn't rely on it to escape

[N0ESI]

Hi everyone
i am new to HoN and i suck very hard no doubt about it ^_^
but iam really loving gauntlet the new hero but :

how do you use vector grable (turning the fist while he is traveling) ?

I have test many thing never happened :-( because of that i was not really concentrate on the games and ruined them a bit...

help me (and the guys i play with :p)

If u got a replay of that hero share pls !!
ty

[Neru]

Hi everyone
i am new to HoN and i suck very hard no doubt about it ^_^
but iam really loving gauntlet the new hero but :

how do you use vector grable (turning the fist while he is traveling) ?

I have test many thing never happened :-( because of that i was not really concentrate on the games and ruined them a bit...

help me (and the guys i play with :p)

If u got a replay of that hero share pls !!
ty

He's a dev hero so don't get too into him, he might change again.
His grapple is no longer vector based, if you read changelogs you'd notice they re-did his skills.

[solidgank]

hello i have disconected form to many pub games to use match makeing even tho it let me play one then the next it said i have diconected from to many gasmes to use.
how do i fix my disconect ratio to once again match make is there anyway

[pk_thunder]

hello i have disconected form to many pub games to use match makeing even tho it let me play one then the next it said i have diconected from to many gasmes to use.
how do i fix my disconect ratio to once again match make is there anyway
actually I think I know what's wrong

ok, there is a system where if u only played a few games, the ok leaver %age lvl to join matchmaking is higher

e.g. I played 10 games, d/ced from 5 but S2 made it so in my first 10 games the leaver %age to be allowed to play a matchmaking game is 50% (they expect u to leave some when ur new)

if I play 11 games the ratio might be changed to 40%, which would make me a leaver (5/11 is over 40% for sure)

idk where it displays this but it was in the 1.x.xx version....

[Ramility]

I created a clan and it said it worked, but it did not send any Im's. Now the clan exists but even I'm not in it. (I created it) what's goin on here? :legi:

[YawningAngel]

hello i have disconected form to many pub games to use match makeing even tho it let me play one then the next it said i have diconected from to many gasmes to use.
how do i fix my disconect ratio to once again match make is there anyway
You need to play more games.

[solidgank]

so if I play enough games without leaveing my percentage will fix itself?

[pk_thunder]

so if I play enough games without leaveing my percentage will fix itself?
yes...

[Mewtwo]

Whatever happened to outpicked D Vs the forums?:pand:

[Drasha]

Whatever happened to outpicked D Vs the forums?:pand:
first of every month now

[Joss2k]

i downloaded a replay but i forgot the match id, what do i do to find it? (

[Mewtwo]

i downloaded a replay but i forgot the match id, what do i do to find it? (

Located in your saved replays, go to watch a replay top left of the bar while logged in, they're all there.

Good luck remembereing who/what was in it and why you wanted to watch it if you have multiple replays.

[fakekoreann]

Never double melee lane. Ever. One range person, any ranged person, could have dismantled his tower skipping shenanigans. If your mid helped, he would have been far behind the other mid.

assuming it's a pub and you have no choice but to double melee?

[Meowshi]

assuming it's a pub and you have no choice but to double melee?

Then you pick a ranged in the hero picking screen.

There should be absolutely no reason why you would pick a melee hero when you are scoping out the lanes. You cannot beat a tower skipping legionaire without completely hindering your team with a double melee lane.

The absolute only reason why I would see you picking another melee is if your hero pool in -sd looked like Blacksmith, Pharaoh, Nighthound. Even then, your teammates have to have a ranged, because blacksmith is the only melee int

[pk_thunder]

^is correct, there is always a choice

and SB/elec is a fine double melee if u do it right

[voidpredator]

i wonder if i can bind the puzzlebox minions to one key?

i mean, so when everytime i spawn them i dont have to re-bind them again?

[ShiftyWaffle]

whats a good item build for Balphagore as support? How about as a tank? And what would you consider his standard item and skill build?

[LightRain]

i wonder if i can bind the puzzlebox minions to one key?

i mean, so when everytime i spawn them i dont have to re-bind them again?

unfortunately, no ;_;

[voidpredator]

unfortunately, no ;_;

then this is what s2 need to do for the next patch @_@

[radicalomg]

This might be more game mechanics, and im sorry for posting it here if it is unfitting.

Firstly, is it possible to mana drain (witch slayer's) bubbles while he is in his shell? (Im guessing not but just curious for verification)

Also, what is the best way to counter fayde?

[mikelorus]

This might be more game mechanics, and im sorry for posting it here if it is unfitting.

Firstly, is it possible to mana drain (witch slayer's) bubbles while he is in his shell? (Im guessing not but just curious for verification)

Also, what is the best way to counter fayde?
Unfortunately I am not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure you cannot mana drain. Sorry.

But for the second, you want burst damage and vision. Burst damage, like Pebbles/pyro or someone to take advantage of Fayde's fragility, and vision so she can't slip away. Map awareness is key when dealing with Fayde.

[pk_thunder]

Also, what is the best way to counter fayde?
wards

nothing better than warding ur side/forest vs a fayde (maybe counter wards just in case she ults for extra measures) then she'll be useless

[Ashitaka]

Where can I find that image that is a clock with the different thread topics? I want it :D

[radicalomg]

Im starting to love this specific thread for fast answers, especially from pk_thunder (L) whom I can acknowledge as good advice, so here is another

Why is it I see so much less of Puppet Master recently? Has he lost his potential as a decent carry due to the attack modifier on WH, reducing his ability to rapeface while never dying and stacking continously? He is an extremely solid laner, solo mid or even solo side lane if you choose to double lane mid or trilane the other side or someones jungles. Even against 2 opponents I think he could get an OK farm, depends on the heroes ofc because he is still relatively squishy with 2 soft CCs. His whiplash harass against a single hero is extremely strong nonetheless. I always consider him a pure mid hero, but I've been able to play some nice solo side lanes due to abusing his CC and harassing effectively. Any single fights in the forest are generally dominated as of 6 due to the massive damage his ultimate produces, and it provides a target for puppet show, meaning CC and they die faster.

Is it just me or is the meta-game shifting away from him? Is his lategame alot weaker nowadays due to all the offensive lanes? Personally I have pulled off some sick farms (in public however so it is biased) on mid lane, and been able to keep a solid farm afterwards.

My playstyle with him is also generally very lane-based farming, unless I have my ultimate ready I dont often battle the other mid hero for the rune (say against an SS or hag). I prefer just completely outlast hitting them for all of early game, this does result in my team not receiving as much ganks from me though, however if I choose to get the rune and am successful I often gank the lane nearest (unless heavily warded). Is my playstyle just wrong, should I be more gank-oriented?

Ok sorry for the wall of text in a 'short question-short answer' thread, I hope its not a burden.

[pk_thunder]

Im starting to love this specific thread for fast answers, especially from pk_thunder (L) whom I can acknowledge as good advice, so here is another

Why is it I see so much less of Puppet Master recently? Has he lost his potential as a decent carry due to the attack modifier on WH, reducing his ability to rapeface while never dying and stacking continously? He is an extremely solid laner, solo mid or even solo side lane if you choose to double lane mid or trilane the other side or someones jungles. Even against 2 opponents I think he could get an OK farm, depends on the heroes ofc because he is still relatively squishy with 2 soft CCs. His whiplash harass against a single hero is extremely strong nonetheless. I always consider him a pure mid hero, but I've been able to play some nice solo side lanes due to abusing his CC and harassing effectively. Any single fights in the forest are generally dominated as of 6 due to the massive damage his ultimate produces, and it provides a target for puppet show, meaning CC and they die faster.

Is it just me or is the meta-game shifting away from him? Is his lategame alot weaker nowadays due to all the offensive lanes? Personally I have pulled off some sick farms (in public however so it is biased) on mid lane, and been able to keep a solid farm afterwards.

My playstyle with him is also generally very lane-based farming, unless I have my ultimate ready I dont often battle the other mid hero for the rune (say against an SS or hag). I prefer just completely outlast hitting them for all of early game, this does result in my team not receiving as much ganks from me though, however if I choose to get the rune and am successful I often gank the lane nearest (unless heavily warded). Is my playstyle just wrong, should I be more gank-oriented?

Ok sorry for the wall of text in a 'short question-short answer' thread, I hope its not a burden.
idk if ur insulting me or something... (zup with the L?)

well to answer ur question let's look at the current "metagame":
PUSH PUSH PUSH

and does puppet have any good pushing abilities? no

he's a carry-ganker and with the harkons nerf (he was ok in competitive play before, note the "ok") it just makes him bad because he doesn't really have AOE and the only item that shines on this hero is harkons, and lifesteal is a need for any carry.

there's also the fact of his pseudo-disables mainly cus they "disable" but don't really at the same time, which was fine with the dmg he outputted and everything but overall it's more of a negative than a positive.

also puppet master needs whispering for the survivability and lifesteal but he need the harkons for dmg (a savage mace can do but harkons is just that much better on an int carry) so there's really no good builds for him

basically puppet master is just like a "forgotten" hero. I mean like the patches have just made him bad and it almost seems like S2 has completely forgot about him (like what zeph was like pre-buff).

I haven't been watching too many pro games lately so idk who they use but it seems :fors:/:valk:/:corr: have disappeared too...

edit: not gonna reread this but I have not been keeping track of pro games very well cus of finals

[radicalomg]

K thanks for the reply, it was what I was kinda guessing but wasn't sure about.
And no I'm not insulting you at all, the (L) = a Heart if you type it in MSN :P So its a good thing don't worry.

And yeah, what you say also explains the loss of FA/Valk/CD partly, as they were somewhat gank-dependednt

[SloppyNacho]

I have heard you can /w all your friends at once. how do you do that? Thx in advance.

[Benny`]

/b w

(the long way is /buddy whisper)

[iaznaB]

What does Staff of the master do for Fayde's ulti ?

[pk_thunder]

What does Staff of the master do for Fayde's ulti ?
nothing

http://www.hondb.com/?ability=reflection

good site :3

[iaznaB]

nothing

http://www.hondb.com/?ability=reflection

good site :3

yeah well it doesn't say what staff of the master do for the other heroes,it just says that affects them.

[snae]

what does SMR mean? :S

[Benny`]

Solo Matchmaking Ranking

[pk_thunder]

yeah well it doesn't say what staff of the master do for the other heroes,it just says that affects them.
actually if the tooltip doesn't say anything then it just doesn't do anything

there was a list I think but idk where it is, I'll edit this post if I find it.

[LightRain]

I don't want to be insulting here, but pk_thunder tends to read things and absorb them as fact. Which is fine for basic info on the game, but leaves him out of date on things like trends in competitive play. You'll see very few pushers this week, Engineer is picked but doesn't push, he ganks and carries with Thunderclaw, Pollywog Priest is now balanced, Slither is a lot worse at pushing, so only Defiler+Engi teams make strong "push push push strats", with occasionally the rare triple-healer draft making strong midgame pushes because lol triheal.
This is due to several key nerfs, such as Pollywog's ultimate cooldown making sense again (actually has to choose whether to use it in a fight or at a tower), Slither wards have been raped, and notably the main aoe armour items, Nome's Wisdom and Plated Greaves, getting nerfed such that they are no longer autoincludes in every team. Also, Accursed is still permabanned which makes it harder to make an early push/teamfight team succeed.
Teams still push and fights are happening early, but it's much more about getting your semicarry fed and winning teamfights than it is about facerolling towers as it was a few weeks ago.

Heroes like Arachna are getting picked again, because they fit the current style. (And possibly because load/5 made it cool.) FA has been seeing play, and is actually banned occasionally against teams that like to run her, such as DrDz. Besides, have you seen what her skeletons do to towers? She actually fit very well in the dps slot in a push team, along with a nice disable that makes the victim resemble a tower for a few seconds.
CD also still gets played, but he's much more balanced than he used to be, with his starting damage trimmed and Frostburn nerfed. He's also no longer an autowin mid because teams are being more flexible with lanes and putting dual killlanes there.

[CptJHarkness]

Reset Stats is so confusing.

1. Public Statistic
2. Public Skill Rating
3. Solo Match Ranking

so the first one resets Lifetime and Average Game statistics? while keeping your PSR?

the second one resets your PSR but keeps your Lifetime and Average Game Statistics?

the third one is like the 2nd one but your Ranking matches?

is this right? so basically if I only X the first one you keep your 1700 psr. but ur kdr, creep avg all that stuff is reseted?

[pk_thunder]

I don't want to be insulting here, but pk_thunder tends to read things and absorb them as fact. Which is fine for basic info on the game, but leaves him out of date on things like trends in competitive play. You'll see very few pushers this week, Engineer is picked but doesn't push, he ganks and carries with Thunderclaw, Pollywog Priest is now balanced, Slither is a lot worse at pushing, so only Defiler+Engi teams make strong "push push push strats", with occasionally the rare triple-healer draft making strong midgame pushes because lol triheal.
This is due to several key nerfs, such as Pollywog's ultimate cooldown making sense again (actually has to choose whether to use it in a fight or at a tower), Slither wards have been raped, and notably the main aoe armour items, Nome's Wisdom and Plated Greaves, getting nerfed such that they are no longer autoincludes in every team. Also, Accursed is still permabanned which makes it harder to make an early push/teamfight team succeed.
Teams still push and fights are happening early, but it's much more about getting your semicarry fed and winning teamfights than it is about facerolling towers as it was a few weeks ago.

Heroes like Arachna are getting picked again, because they fit the current style. (And possibly because load/5 made it cool.) FA has been seeing play, and is actually banned occasionally against teams that like to run her, such as DrDz. Besides, have you seen what her skeletons do to towers? She actually fit very well in the dps slot in a push team, along with a nice disable that makes the victim resemble a tower for a few seconds.
CD also still gets played, but he's much more balanced than he used to be, with his starting damage trimmed and Frostburn nerfed. He's also no longer an autowin mid because teams are being more flexible with lanes and putting dual killlanes there.
yeah with finals hitting me in the head u'd expect me to go watch honcast right? (aka yes, I have not seen honcast for quite some time actually). I was actually lucky nuff to have as much time as I did this weekend to get some games in but for the rest of the week this is probably one of my last posts...

but idk what answer this is for so :confused:

and after posting that yes I did notice some CD/FA/puppet play (checked china and some other ppl's stats)

what do u mean by "pk_thunder tends to read things and absorb them as fact"?


Reset Stats is so confusing.

1. Public Statistic
2. Public Skill Rating
3. Solo Match Ranking

so the first one resets Lifetime and Average Game statistics? while keeping your PSR?

the second one resets your PSR but keeps your Lifetime and Average Game Statistics?

the third one is like the 2nd one but your Ranking matches?

is this right? so basically if I only X the first one you keep your 1700 psr. but ur kdr, creep avg all that stuff is reseted?
1) is the stats like KDR and stuff for public play
2) this is ur PSR, which is the number that ranks u in the ELO system
3) SMR, this is for Match Making play.

[LightRain]

I'm not blaming you for not watching honcast or anything - just pointing out that you haven't been keeping up, metagame is not pushpushpush, and FA has not "disappeared"

referring to your attempted explanation as to why puppet master has dropped in usage

when referring to your habit of taking things as fact, I'm referring to such habits as stating the absolute "core" of, say, scout, and violently arguing with people who disagree :)

edit: you did say you haven't been watching it, but I just wanted to give a clearer view of recent trends.

[pk_thunder]

I'm not blaming you for not watching honcast or anything - just pointing out that you haven't been keeping up, metagame is not pushpushpush, and FA has not "disappeared"

referring to your attempted explanation as to why puppet master has dropped in usage
ohhhh

soz my brain is not working today

but yeah, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that in my post? (if not I'll edit it now)

btw has MQ been picked in any warmup games?

[LightRain]

MQ has been picked a nonzero amount of times - for instance, Empire ran her in a trilane with Glacius and Andromeda, up against a trilane of Plague/Hellbringer/Pestilence (i think it was pestilence)

haven't seen her win anything yet but apparently h4nn1 picked her and won so I guess go look that up.

[PseudoMonna]

why does nullfire lvl 2 sells for free if u spent all the charges? Its ridiculous...u pay more then 4k gold...then when u sell...u dont recieve a single coin...?

[Espeon]

Basically, the value of the item is based on the charges. If you don't like that, make a topic in balance or suggestions.

Also, I have to agree with light_rain about the few previous posts.


wards

nothing better than warding ur side/forest vs a fayde (maybe counter wards just in case she ults for extra measures) then she'll be useless

Also, yellow wards aren't that great against a proper fayde...you need to place blue wards in key areas/ lanes.

[Chaosmango]

was playin:scou: in ar yesterday and im not very familiar with his item-build
so i went runed axe, then abyssal and then nullfire

didnt get mana though
so my question is, if nullfires steal gets disabled by abyssal by not-stacking?

2nd question would be a good item-build for scout and fayde anyway :fayd:

[marras]

how to get multicast bug on blacksmith?



was playin:scou: in ar yesterday and im not very familiar with his item-build
so i went runed axe, then abyssal and then nullfire

didnt get mana though
so my question is, if nullfires steal gets disabled by abyssal by not-stacking?

2nd question would be a good item-build for scout and fayde anyway :fayd:
check guide list in http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=63388
and nullfire mana combusion doesn't get disabled by abyssal, because abyssal isn't attack modifier(nullfire shouldn't be one either)

[Chaosmango]

i really don't know why, but didnt get mana with it

[pk_thunder]

Also, yellow wards aren't that great against a proper fayde...you need to place blue wards in key areas/ lanes.
I said to have counterwards if needed in there...



2nd question would be a good item-build for scout and fayde anyway :fayd:
scout: boots -> RA -> steamboots -> bkb/firebrand -> sheildbreaker/harkons -> savage mace

fayde: boots -> bottle -> codex -> steamboots -> puzzlebox

[Meowshi]

Nullfire blade doesn't steal mana

[marras]

yeah well it DRAINS mana

there's nothing in hon that STEALS mana

[Dragnmn]

Witch Slayer disagrees. AFAIK it's the only thing anyway, nothing you can buy steals mana. Mana drain is still powerful though, especially with images.

[Espeon]

I said to have counterwards if needed in there...

Counter warding and blue warding against fayde are different entities though.

Counter warding should be done every game.

With Fayde, extra precautions should be taken to place blue wards in the lane / key areas she will approach from.

And for skill build with fayde, I like bottle, steamboots, and rushing Puzzlebox, no codex. It's pretty similar item in burst damage if you can properly use the minions, and the upgrades is much more useful. If I would get codex, I think I would only get level 1 and start on my Puzzlebox =)

And on most heroes I'll generally finish Steamboots before big item since it gives you cheap survivability.

[pk_thunder]

Counter warding and blue warding against fayde are different entities though.

Counter warding should be done every game.

With Fayde, extra precautions should be taken to place blue wards in the lane / key areas she will approach from.

And for skill build with fayde, I like bottle, steamboots, and rushing Puzzlebox, no codex. It's pretty similar item in burst damage if you can properly use the minions, and the upgrades is much more useful. If I would get codex, I think I would only get level 1 and start on my Puzzlebox =)

And on most heroes I'll generally finish Steamboots before big item since it gives you cheap survivability.
well ofc, not like ur gonna put a blue ward sorta close to ur spawn camp to check for blocks and expect it to spot a fayde

I agree with ur item build but elementuser is funny that way D:

[Railon]

Do Iron Bucklers stack? or why people use to buy 2 Iron Bucklers for the bear of wildsoul?

[pk_thunder]

Do Iron Bucklers stack? or why people use to buy 2 Iron Bucklers for the bear of wildsoul?
they do but not linearly (like if they blocked for 50% it'd be like 50% of 50%, so 75% block chance, but those aren't the numbers)

sometimes 2 buckers can be used to effectively increase ur armor for jungling (there was a graph that showed that a 40 dmg block on creeps that attacked you for like 60ish gave about an equivalent of 90 armor)

this only works for hardcore jungling heroes like :legi:

[Railon]

they do but not linearly (like if they blocked for 50% it'd be like 50% of 50%, so 75% block chance, but those aren't the numbers)

sometimes 2 buckers can be used to effectively increase ur armor for jungling (there was a graph that showed that a 40 dmg block on creeps that attacked you for like 60ish gave about an equivalent of 90 armor)

this only works for hardcore jungling heroes like :legi:

But which is the diferrence between bloking 40 dmg instead using the helm of black legion which block 100% 40 damage?

[pk_thunder]

But which is the diferrence between bloking 40 dmg instead using the helm of black legion which block 100% 40 damage?
?

2 buckers is worth more in blocking power than HotBL

HotBL doesn't stack with buckers (I think), instead HotBL procs by itself because it has a higher proc %

HotBL also has a 70% block chance

[Espeon]

But which is the diferrence between bloking 40 dmg instead using the helm of black legion which block 100% 40 damage?

Helm of the Black Legion needs to be farmed...you can start the game with two Iron Bucklers. Feel free to sell one of them when you make your HotBL, you won't need the other shield anymore.

[Benny`]

But which is the diferrence between bloking 40 dmg instead using the helm of black legion which block 100% 40 damage?
Two Bucklers do not block 40 damage. Having additional bucklers increases the chance to block 20 damage, not the number of damage blocked from any single hit.

[Sniffo]

Is there any perticular good combo with slither and madman?

[Ghyslyn]

Does Accursed's ult only cast after receiving damage while his hp is under 400? And is that first attack while he's under 400 get swapped to health regen by his ult or is it only the next one?

Example: I was in a game, plague cast his ult on me, first hit dropped my hp down to roughly 250, second hit killed me, I wasn't silenced or stunned or anything, ult simply never cast, is my assumption right?

[Railon]

What does exactly counts in the apm? Someone told me this is action per minute, but what does count it? clicking the map for to move, casting spells, using items...

I got 101 and I dont know if this is a good average or not and I dont know what to do ingame for improve it.

And does it depends on the hero? I mean, armadon spamming skills or hammer with elder parasite, stun, ulti, shrunken head, will he do more apm?

[pk_thunder]

Does Accursed's ult only cast after receiving damage while his hp is under 400? And is that first attack while he's under 400 get swapped to health regen by his ult or is it only the next one?

Example: I was in a game, plague cast his ult on me, first hit dropped my hp down to roughly 250, second hit killed me, I wasn't silenced or stunned or anything, ult simply never cast, is my assumption right?
might have hit u before the cast time of it went off?

could be a glitch but in the next patch it doesn't go off automatically

[Noob]

What does exactly counts in the apm? Someone told me this is action per minute, but what does count it? clicking the map for to move, casting spells, using items...

I got 101 and I dont know if this is a good average or not and I dont know what to do ingame for improve it.

And does it depends on the hero? I mean, armadon spamming skills or hammer with elder parasite, stun, ulti, shrunken head, will he do more apm?


APM doesnt really mean anything, it means how much u spam click in the game, some heroes you get huge APM, while controlling more then one thing , etc ophelia... maybe armadon could give an increase, but hammer? all you do is click r and your done, i dont see how that increases APM more..

[Ookpik]

How do you queue actions together? For instance queuing the magmus ulti with lava surge. In particular I would like to know how to queue Adromeda's ulti swap with a portal key to return to my original position.

[pk_thunder]

How do you queue actions together? For instance queuing the magmus ulti with lava surge. In particular I would like to know how to queue Adromeda's ulti swap with a portal key to return to my original position.
shift + the skill

say I want to use skill "q" right after "w" after item "alt + e"

I would do:

q -> w + shift -> shift + alt + e

it's that simple

(and having andro swap and pk back as a skill queue is inefficient because of the backswing of the animation, so it's much easier to do it urself manually)

[Vort3x]

Looking for a guide on Roaming plz.The forum search is useless

[Espeon]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=52834

[pk_thunder]

soulreaper + frostwolf + judgement = slow/debuff?

[Espeon]

At work, but I'm going to say no, since it's not single-target

[LightRain]

^confirmed in practice mode

[pk_thunder]

^confirmed in practice mode
I confirmed it with element o.o

[MagpulM4]

Anyone know that if there is any guide other on Pest :pest: ? I really want to see if there are any other trick of using him :D thx

[pk_thunder]

Anyone know that if there is any guide other on Pest :pest: ? I really want to see if there are any other trick of using him :D thx
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=14787

?

[voidpredator]

i dont know why am i always having bad teammates, clicking concede everytime we lost a teamfight, and quit if 4 other players dont want to. and any kind of griefers ingame.

its like i play my role properly and then somebody ruin our gameplay

so how can PSR be accurate about our skills? i see retarded people in 1650+ brackets already

[pk_thunder]

i dont know why am i always having bad teammates, clicking concede everytime we lost a teamfight, and quit if 4 other players dont want to. and any kind of griefers ingame.

its like i play my role properly and then somebody ruin our gameplay

so how can PSR be accurate about our skills? i see retarded people in 1650+ brackets already
PSR requires that you play about 1k games to be accurate

otherwise it can be misleading

[Asinine]

Since targeted ground spells can now target heroes, do they also receive the debuffs from frostwolf skull when targeting a hero? Also do items receive the debuff such as hellflower?

I'm thinking of a new witchslayer build where you max stun, miniaturization, ulti, and stats first.

Item build would be marchers->(Bottle)-> hellflower-> steamboots/ghostmarchers->frostwolf

He would be an early game ganker with late game anti-carry potential. The hellflower would be another huge disable to stop blinkers/ invis heroes along with supplying him with all the mana regeneration/ extra damage he needs. Bottle would also help, especially if he mids. The buildup to Frostwolf will make him beefy along with stats and once obtain, all of his spells now have an extra disable along with hellflower if it works with it.

Sounds pretty sick I think if it works.

[pk_thunder]

Since targeted ground spells can now target heroes, do they also receive the debuffs from frostwolf skull when targeting a hero? Also do items receive the debuff such as hellflower?

I'm thinking of a new witchslayer build where you max stun, miniaturization, ulti, and stats first.

Item build would be marchers->(Bottle)-> hellflower-> steamboots/ghostmarchers->frostwolf

He would be an early game ganker with late game anti-carry potential. The hellflower would be another huge disable to stop blinkers/ invis heroes along with supplying him with all the mana regeneration/ extra damage he needs. Bottle would also help, especially if he mids. The buildup to Frostwolf will make him beefy along with stats and once obtain, all of his spells now have an extra disable along with hellflower if it works with it.

Sounds pretty sick I think if it works.
I have tested it on practice mode and witch slayer does debuff from frostwolf does transfer over iff you target him as the target and not just the aoe

I don't understand the 2nd part of ur question

EDIT:
if you mean will hellflower trigger the debuff from frostwolf then yes it does

[Asinine]

The second part is asking if items that target enemies also give frostwolf's debuff such as TOC, Codex, and hellflower.

After rethinking, the only part that really matters is if it works on hellflower or codex. A 900+ range silence/dmg + slow would be pretty sick if just for initiating. It wouldn't matter too much on his stun or mini disable because he will auto-atk to keep the debuff on and the disable duration is almost the same as the debuff.

[pk_thunder]

The second part is asking if items that target enemies also give frostwolf's debuff such as TOC, Codex, and hellflower.
hellflower does for sure (check the edit)

[Asinine]

I wonder if the slow on frostwolf works even if the spell you cast still misses. Take for example rockets from chipper. Since I think they can be targeted, do they only slow if the spell hits? Do they even work on chippers rockets? Another example would be pharaoh's rockets or tundras glacial atk- anything with long range basically. Frostwolf may be heavily underestimated or broken if frostwolfs change to apply to spells and the new targeted spell rule change ignores misses.

Thx for testing this out pk. =)

[pk_thunder]

I wonder if the slow on frostwolf works even if the spell you cast still misses. Take for example rockets from chipper. Since I think they can be targeted, do they only slow if the spell hits? Do they even work on chippers rockets? Another example would be pharaoh's rockets or tundras glacial atk- anything with long range basically. Frostwolf may be heavily underestimated or broken if frostwolfs change to apply to spells and the new targeted spell rule change ignores misses.

Thx for testing this out pk. =)
are you saying that if I click someone (say :deme:) with :glac: AOE, would some else (say :soulr:) have the debuff too?

(testing now)

EDIT:
glac's slow is not AOE target, it's just AOE

if I use witchslayer's stun and I click on a hero and it hits 2 it only procs on the one I aim for (like actually clicked on)

testing with more heroes, hold on...

EDIT2:
chipper's rocket and tormented soul are not target-able spells

testing tundra...

EDIT3:
tundra is like witchslayer's, it only procs on main target

[Asinine]

Hmm ok so its only spells that can target, so ones that highlight over a player.

[pk_thunder]

Hmm ok so its only spells that can target, so ones that highlight over a player.
no, chipper's rocket highlights but it doesn't hit (it doesn't show info and all that)

[deliciousHam]

I'm looking for good Picking and counter-picking guides. More related to strategies (turtling, pushing, AOE faceroll, ect ect)

Halp.

[pk_thunder]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=138837
GR is having a counter tip of the week

it only has 6 heroes, but they'll do it every week

there was a thread on it but I can't find it...

this stuff generally comes along as you get better/learn more

[BigHustles]

Best/Most Efficient/Fastest way to put Tundra's pets into ctrl groups after they're summoned? Bird in one group with the Liger and Tundra in another.

Can anyone link a great guide to microing?

[pk_thunder]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=1087195&postcount=3

closest u can get to a micro guide...

but you should just learn to tab and drag select them, it's not hard (note: if you have all of them selected and u tab from hero u will go to bird first...)

[BigHustles]

1. Your hero is selected, you use the summoning spell
2. tab (this transfers your view to bird)
3. Ctrl + 2 (this sets bird to group two)
4. tab (this transfers your view to cat)
5. Ctrl + 1 (puts cat in group 1), tab shift +1 (puts Tundra in group 1)
6. Tab (highlights Tundra w/in group.

I got it.

[BoniZ]

Does the block on helm of the legion occur before the damage reduction from armor, or before it?
For example: a 100 dmg incomming attack, I have helm and 50% damage reducton from armor and I block. Do I get 100 - 50% = 50 then block 40 = 10 damage or do i block 1st 100 - 40 = 60 then -50% = 30 damage?

Would be good to know :P

[babishh]

what's the main difference between this thread and http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=69488&page=76 this one?
i always thought they were the same one, but i just noticed they are separate.
first is for main questions, second for newbies?

[Bully]

I did a search and couldn't find anything so I ask - Anyone know of a website or a guide that shows what heroes counter other particular heroes and what heroes are carries/hard carries/support?

[pk_thunder]

what's the main difference between this thread and http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=69488&page=76 this one?
i always thought they were the same one, but i just noticed they are separate.
first is for main questions, second for newbies?
training grounds is more for newbie questions
strategy is for, well, strategy questions
(there's really no difference besides the dev hero thing)


I did a search and couldn't find anything so I ask - Anyone know of a website or a guide that shows what heroes counter other particular heroes and what heroes are carries/hard carries/support?

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=138837
GR is having a counter tip of the week

it only has 6 heroes, but they'll do it every week

there was a thread on it but I can't find it... EDIT: here it is http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=138042

this stuff generally comes along as you get better/learn more


Does the block on helm of the legion occur before the damage reduction from armor, or before it?
For example: a 100 dmg incomming attack, I have helm and 50% damage reducton from armor and I block. Do I get 100 - 50% = 50 then block 40 = 10 damage or do i block 1st 100 - 40 = 60 then -50% = 30 damage?

Would be good to know :P
this is a question better suited for the mechanics forums (our wait for elementuser to check the thread)

EDIT: I asked element and he said the dmg blockers like hotbl trigger before armor reduction

[Dederd]

why does legionnaire not see competitive use?

[Sol9o]

why does legionnaire not see competitive use?

because there are so many other heroes better then legionnaire. He don't have any special abilites that makes him worth his pick compared to others. He has no stun ability other then "taunt" which dont stun at all, and his focus is single targets, much like rampage.
He is a carry/initiator but legionnaire doesn't scale into lategame. Thats why his power will decrease drastically compared to other carries. This is his biggest weakness and the reason he is rarely seen these days.

EDIT: From hammerstorm to legionnaire (ty Benny)

[Benny`]

^ where is says hammerstorm above he means lego ^^

Also because he needs decent farm early to get his initiation item(s) (pk and preferably a helm), and getting that farm is a lot harder in higher level games. And without the basics he will become a dead weight.

[pk_thunder]

well the main reason is he requires the enemy to deal dmg to him

makes him sound suicidal...

[roemer]

yeah just played a game where i was silenced by bh and then i used my shrunken head. Why doesnt bkb take off the bh silence. I even checked that its said magic wouldnt it then count as a debuff? idk i dont usually play against a bh who uses level silence against me.

[Christian88]

What is queueing spells and how do I do it?

[Benny`]

yeah just played a game where i was silenced by bh and then i used my shrunken head. Why doesnt bkb take off the bh silence. I even checked that its said magic wouldnt it then count as a debuff? idk i dont usually play against a bh who uses level silence against me.
debuffs appear above your hero portrait by default. Debuffs with a blue border can not be dispelled by any means. Debuffs with a green border can be dispelled.


What is queueing spells and how do I do it?
When you queue spells they will be used one after the other (in the order you queued them in) as fast as is possible. The advantage of this is you can set something to go off right after a channel ends. To queue, hold shift and press the spells button.

[pk_thunder]

yeah just played a game where i was silenced by bh and then i used my shrunken head. Why doesnt bkb take off the bh silence. I even checked that its said magic wouldnt it then count as a debuff? idk i dont usually play against a bh who uses level silence against me.
to add to benny's point, it's considered a buff with the +80% base dmg compared to only 10 magic dmg and a silence (if u have a shrunken head u'll probably benefit from the buff a ton...)

[andead]

how to type defferent color words in chat ？

[YawningAngel]

how to type defferent color words in chat ？
^###, replacing the hashes with the digits 0-9 according to your desired colour. ^ followed by a letter also works for some colours.

[pk_thunder]

you can also do ^! and then a letter for a lighter shade of it

[voidpredator]

i keep stucking in bad teams, and many phsycological guides on how winning pubs seems dont affect anymore. anymore motivational hint / tips / guide for how picking right teammates in pubs? dont ask me to play with buddies; i have buddies, but sometimes, we have different times to play. the winning streak i get is usually when i play with people i know. but any other hint for winning pubs with total strangers?

they keep sucking.

[pk_thunder]

i keep stucking in bad teams, and many phsycological guides on how winning pubs seems dont affect anymore. anymore motivational hint / tips / guide for how picking right teammates in pubs? dont ask me to play with buddies; i have buddies, but sometimes, we have different times to play. the winning streak i get is usually when i play with people i know. but any other hint for winning pubs with total strangers?

they keep sucking.
if you're better than them:



pick a carry
make sure it's ranged
solo mid
carry the team to victory

[voidpredator]

if you're better than them:



pick a carry
make sure it's ranged
solo mid
carry the team to victory


still no significant change. my last match, someone in my team picked sand wraith and rushed MoB without boots on, and only activate his ulti twice and didnt understand how to escape with desert curse to trees->tp stone combo.

i cannot stop pubs from picking carries

[Meowshi]

Pick support

Help them rush and actually get MoB

Save opposite lanes from getting ganked

Ward so they don't get ganked

Be called a hero and get your own forum post on the training grounds.

[YawningAngel]

still no significant change. my last match, someone in my team picked sand wraith and rushed MoB without boots on, and only activate his ulti twice and didnt understand how to escape with desert curse to trees->tp stone combo.

i cannot stop pubs from picking carries
There isn't a cure for people this retarded. Just votekick them and pray.

[pk_thunder]

still no significant change. my last match, someone in my team picked sand wraith and rushed MoB without boots on, and only activate his ulti twice and didnt understand how to escape with desert curse to trees->tp stone combo.

i cannot stop pubs from picking carries
this is the best bet other than playing with friends

[Robb57]

How does the heal of nome's wisdom work? I know it has to do with mana usage, but the description doesn't make sense to me.

[pk_thunder]

How does the heal of nome's wisdom work? I know it has to do with mana usage, but the description doesn't make sense to me.
from http://honwiki.net/wiki/Nome%27s_Wisdom

Heroes are healed for 25% of the manacost of abilities or items cast. Toggle abilities only count the initial cost. If the healing exceeds your max health, a shield of equal value is applied for 5 seconds.let's say u have 300/400 hp
u cast a spell costing 400 mana (huge manacost), you will be healed for 100 hp (25% of manacost)

now let's say u have 400/400 hp (full hp)
u cast the same spell with costing 400 mana, you now gain a shield (basically extra HP) worth 100 hp cus it's 25% of 400 mana. this will be gone after 5 seconds.

finally, let's say you have 350/400 hp
u now again cast that spell costing 400 mana, healing u to full hp with a 50 hp sheild cus 350 + 100 = 450, and because that's over ur max HP you have a 50 HP shield (450 hphealed - 400 hpmax = full hp with a 50 hp shield)

[Paranoyak]

Hi all,
i just played a match with pesti, it was :

:dark: + :defi: + :pest::ShrunkenHead: + :elec:(well tank stuffed) + :behe::Portalkey:

VS

:succ: + :souls: + :pyro: + :hell: + :pred:(extrastuff)

and behemoth rage about me (pesti) not initiating enough -_-*
my point of view :
Darklady and Behemoth can blick in ( and instant stun or silence)
Pesti takes about 2 sec to get there, and :hell::succ: can stun me with their ultis sup?rior magic.
Pred could kill me in 4/5 hits, alone, so why sacrifyin me would have helped ?

Is there any expert player that could tell me who should have initiate ?

[pk_thunder]

Hi all,
i just played a match with pesti, it was :

:dark: + :defi: + :pest::ShrunkenHead: + :elec:(well tank stuffed) + :behe::Portalkey:

VS

:succ: + :souls: + :pyro: + :hell: + :pred:(extrastuff)

and behemoth rage about me (pesti) not initiating enough -_-*
my point of view :
Darklady and Behemoth can blick in ( and instant stun or silence)
Pesti takes about 2 sec to get there, and :hell::succ: can stun me with their ultis sup?rior magic.
Pred could kill me in 4/5 hits, alone, so why sacrifyin me would have helped ?

Is there any expert player that could tell me who should have initiate ?
actually the best way is probably for u to jump in with pk first, stun, then behemoth jumps in RIGHT after with his ult and then tdl ults and u pick off who's left

if u really didn't want to u can get elec to initiate with a grab and then clusterf*ck them asap so elec doesn't die

ur problem is the fact that u don't have portal key, which is core on pesti (probably even more so with this team cus u have good initiation)

[Ophelia]

How do I get rid of the clan tag I quit a million years ago. I still have 365 by my name and I quit that guild long ago.

[EspritFort]

How do I get rid of the clan tag I quit a million years ago. I still have 365 by my name and I quit that guild long ago.

By having it magically disappear.

[Asinine]

What are the best items for increasing your base damage as a Str class?

[pk_thunder]

What are the best items for increasing your base damage as a Str class?
:Insanitarius: is amazing if rushed (and activated), this is probably the most cost effective
:ShrunkenHead: gives decent dmg for str heroes
:BehemothsHeart: gives nice +str cus of the axe of malph
:FrostwolfsSkull: is good too (tho it's better for an agi hero)
:SymbolOfRage: gives decent +str also cus of axe of malph
:Steamboots: are ur boots if u need all +str that u can get (STR steamboots)

[EGNesTea420]

I'm just wondering what the best conditions for ganking on a semi-carry style hero in higher levels of play are. In the 1500 bracket or so I found I could easily just roam around, get double kills and generally wreck stuff. However I found that at higher levels people are a tad more observant and will back when you go down there, wasting your time.

Pretty much what I do currently is just try and get free farm mid and at least try and finish my full boots (by 5-7 mins or so) before ganking often. While I found I could get away with ganking on red boots in a low level pub at the higher level it feels like I need that extra MS so I don't screw over myself if they end up backing.


Any thoughts? As I get up in the higher PSR bracket I feel like I need to start playing semi-carry's again and I'm a bit rusty at them. For the most part I got up to 1700 just by playing :elec::thun::chip: and such.

[Meowshi]

Pretty much what I do currently is just try and get free farm mid and at least try and finish my full boots (by 5-7 mins or so) before ganking often. While I found I could get away with ganking on red boots in a low level pub at the higher level it feels like I need that extra MS so I don't screw over myself if they end up backing.


Any thoughts? As I get up in the higher PSR bracket I feel like I need to start playing semi-carry's again and I'm a bit rusty at them. For the most part I got up to 1700 just by playing :elec::thun::chip: and such.

I feel for you.

I'm in the process of finding the perfect mixture. What I've found is that:

Waiting for your full boots takes way too long. You're looking at Power Supply, Bottle, and Upgraded boots- This is ~2kg, which is way too late in the game unless you got bloodlust.

I would say- Start ganking as soon as you have a bottle, normal boots, power supply, and you have the rune.

Better yet, get two solos and have a teammate roam.

[pk_thunder]

I'm just wondering what the best conditions for ganking on a semi-carry style hero in higher levels of play are. In the 1500 bracket or so I found I could easily just roam around, get double kills and generally wreck stuff. However I found that at higher levels people are a tad more observant and will back when you go down there, wasting your time.

if ur team is doing really well u probably should just farm (and kill mid if ur doing that well)

if they ask go "mia" for a sec, probably will scare the shet out of them and if they don't back far nuff continue and go gank

if ur team is sucking horrible then u should probably farm anyways cus u're not gonna win a game by ganking if ur already losing the laning phase

[EGNesTea420]

I feel for you.

I'm in the process of finding the perfect mixture. What I've found is that:

Waiting for your full boots takes way too long. You're looking at Power Supply, Bottle, and Upgraded boots- This is ~2kg, which is way too late in the game unless you got bloodlust.

I would say- Start ganking as soon as you have a bottle, normal boots, power supply, and you have the rune.

Better yet, get two solos and have a teammate roam.

Agreed. I'll probably weigh out the situation and see how it goes.



if ur team is doing really well u probably should just farm (and kill mid if ur doing that well)

if they ask go "mia" for a sec, probably will scare the shet out of them and if they don't back far nuff continue and go gank

if ur team is sucking horrible then u should probably farm anyways cus u're not gonna win a game by ganking if ur already losing the laning phaseThe issue I have is that for a lot of pub players losing the laning phase makes them feel like they lost the game. Some players simply can't get "back into" a game after a bit of poor farm so I really see the early game phase to be really important, especially in pub play.

As far as the sucking deal goes, I agree. I've had people blame me time and time again for farming when their lane is going bad. They seem to think that a mid gank is the answer to all their issues or something. The one thing I could do is wait and try and catch the enemy playing too aggressive and then going in for a gank.

[pk_thunder]

The issue I have is that for a lot of pub players losing the laning phase makes them feel like they lost the game. Some players simply can't get "back into" a game after a bit of poor farm so I really see the early game phase to be really important, especially in pub play.

As far as the sucking deal goes, I agree. I've had people blame me time and time again for farming when their lane is going bad. They seem to think that a mid gank is the answer to all their issues or something. The one thing I could do is wait and try and catch the enemy playing too aggressive and then going in for a gank.
ganking is the answer if u do it often and well

one failed gank can (will) ruin ur laning phase.

[Bishness]

I play with a friend who usually plays carries and I exclusively play support. Last game he complains that I'm too passive and I need to harass more. I'm andromeda he's magebane, and we're up against tort/pesti.

if I auto attack pesti when he runs up to last hit (400 range on andromeda) the creeps instantly turn on me, I get double stunned and then I die. Isn't it right to play passive in a double stun lane when I don't have full auto attack range?

or how am I supposed to harass as say demented shaman in a double ranged lane? if I auto attack one hero, I get auto attacked once by both of them

[Decency]

I play with a friend who usually plays carries and I exclusively play support. Last game he complains that I'm too passive and I need to harass more. I'm andromeda he's magebane, and we're up against tort/pesti.

if I auto attack pesti when he runs up to last hit (400 range on andromeda) the creeps instantly turn on me, I get double stunned and then I die. Isn't it right to play passive in a double stun lane when I don't have full auto attack range?

or how am I supposed to harass as say demented shaman in a double ranged lane? if I auto attack one hero, I get auto attacked once by both of them

Andromeda is a terrible babysitter because of her poor range. Especially against a double stun lane, you're probably not going to win that. So that's really your answer in that situation. Yeah, you probably could've harassed better than you did, but you lost that one in the picking stage.

As a DShaman versus dual range, you need to realize that there's two ways to babysit:
1. Harass the hell out of your opponents and make them unable to initiate on you and your lane partner.
2. Don't die, and don't let your lanemate die.

DShaman is a great babysitter because he can do both. Slither and Vindicator, for example, can only do the first. If you're against a dual ranged lane, unless your opponents are terrible, you're generally going to get harassed hard and default to #2. What this means is that you're going to need to pull creeps. A lot. If your neutral creeps are warded, counter ward and let your carry start pulling. Also, pull the opponent's lane creeps towards your tower (by attacking an enemy hero and then running) and hope that your carry knows how to last hit well. This will make the creep waves fight "backwards" which makes it MUCH easier for melee heroes but doesn't really affect ranged heroes. Also, if your opponents have to walk past your creeps to attack your lane-mate, they're taking creep damage. This also sets up offensive heal opportunities for you.

Good luck. =)

[EGNesTea420]

ganking is the answer if u do it often and well

one failed gank can (will) ruin ur laning phase.

Yeah totally agreed.


Another question for you guys here. I generally play with 2 other friends. For the most part I am our solo mid player (they've tried but usually get beaten in a lane).

The problem is that in the past week we've sort of gotten our **** together and have gone up a lot of PSR. We've started to drop a bit again though (from 1715 - 1668 atm for me) and I really don't want my psr to tank again.


What I'm wondering is what 3 man combo would be most potent in a higher level pub. Currently I'm really focused on just playing a strong semi carry and just trying to get a strong farm mid. However what I'm wondering is what the other two should play. Should we go for gankers? Strong lanes? Team fight heroes?


I'll be honest though and say that I generally do win mid when I'm there and the issue, if we have one, is more of the transition to mid-late game and trying to pretty much lift the teams weight on your shoulders.

Also I'll mention that I'm trying to take the most "difficult" role just because the other two haven't been playing as long as I have. (I've been playing for like 8 months, the other two for like 4-5 months maybe).

[GeoBeta]

Erm, I has a Qwaistsision. When or Will the Patrol command be fixed? I really want to be able keep tabs on runes/jungle when I play Ophelia or Tundra. =(

I try using Shift + spam right clicks but that just usually last about 5 minutes and it takes me like 30 seconds to set up. its really annoying ==>:( lol

psp (+[ ]%)

[pk_thunder]

Another question for you guys here. I generally play with 2 other friends. For the most part I am our solo mid player (they've tried but usually get beaten in a lane).

The problem is that in the past week we've sort of gotten our **** together and have gone up a lot of PSR. We've started to drop a bit again though (from 1715 - 1668 atm for me) and I really don't want my psr to tank again.


What I'm wondering is what 3 man combo would be most potent in a higher level pub. Currently I'm really focused on just playing a strong semi carry and just trying to get a strong farm mid. However what I'm wondering is what the other two should play. Should we go for gankers? Strong lanes? Team fight heroes?


I'll be honest though and say that I generally do win mid when I'm there and the issue, if we have one, is more of the transition to mid-late game and trying to pretty much lift the teams weight on your shoulders.

Also I'll mention that I'm trying to take the most "difficult" role just because the other two haven't been playing as long as I have. (I've been playing for like 8 months, the other two for like 4-5 months maybe).
it depends really

if this is a close to equal lvl ur best bet is to have a 1 ganker, a baby sitter, and 1 semi-carry/carry. I'd say like :fors: mid with :glac:/:slit: and :swif: bot. this is a gank oriented lineup (:swif: is very important, he's a ganking CARRY) that is effective because it puts the enemy team down (should be easier than with pubs cus u probably know them well nuff and can work together better) and hopefully have swift farm.

u can do one of those "instagib" strat based on initiation, like :souls::temp: or :engi::plag: or :behe::engi:. third person should probably a ganker cus you want to hit them hard and early so they can be lvl 12 while ur lvl 10.

tbh it's the tryhard lanes that count, TRYHARD to get good heroes/lanes.


Erm, I has a Qwaistsision. When or Will the Patrol command be fixed? I really want to be able keep tabs on runes/jungle when I play Ophelia or Tundra. =(

I try using Shift + spam right clicks but that just usually last about 5 minutes and it takes me like 30 seconds to set up. its really annoying ==>:( lol

psp (+[ ]%)
not sure about patrol

what r u trying to do? creep stack? if so u just have to look at the clock, it's not very hard to do manually

[Meowshi]

Also I'll mention that I'm trying to take the most "difficult" role just because the other two haven't been playing as long as I have. (I've been playing for like 8 months, the other two for like 4-5 months maybe).

I'd say Ganker mid / Strong top solo / Roamer.

Pharaoh / Electrician / Corrupted Disciple / Hag solo mid.
Valkyrie / FA / Corrupted Disciple solo top
Andromeda / Magmus roam

This covers your bases. If any of you are losing the lane, Andromeda roams in, stuns someone, and they're foreverly cautious. We can assume you win your lane- You can start ganking too after you get your ganking core. Best part is, You as pharaoh can tp in and get kills that no other hero could have in the entire game with your ult and booger.

While you and andromeda gank like mad, Top will be getting farmed.

[Decency]

What I'm wondering is what 3 man combo would be most potent in a higher level pub. Currently I'm really focused on just playing a strong semi carry and just trying to get a strong farm mid. However what I'm wondering is what the other two should play. Should we go for gankers? Strong lanes? Team fight heroes?

Also I'll mention that I'm trying to take the most "difficult" role just because the other two haven't been playing as long as I have. (I've been playing for like 8 months, the other two for like 4-5 months maybe).

I'd suggest Defiler solo mid with Accursed+Soul Reaper in your offensive lane. The three synergize incredibly well in teamfights and give you two very strong lanes. This makes getting kills for the other team hard as hell if you win your lanes. Also, it lets your two randoms lane defensively so they're less likely to cost you the game.

Another thing that could work would be a ganker/carry mid like CD, Puppet, or Arachna and then a strong double stun lane like Magmus/Pyro bottom. Finally, you could grab a Tempest, Ophelia, or Warbeast and then have 2 solo, if that's comfortable.

[pk_thunder]

I'd suggest Defiler solo mid with Accursed+Soul Reaper in your offensive lane. The three synergize incredibly well in teamfights and give you two very strong lanes. This makes getting kills for the other team hard as hell if you win your lanes. Also, it lets your two randoms lane defensively so they're less likely to cost you the game.

Another thing that could work would be a ganker/carry mid like CD, Puppet, or Arachna and then a strong double stun lane like Magmus/Pyro bottom. Finally, you could grab a Tempest, Ophelia, or Warbeast and then have 2 solo, if that's comfortable.
I like fayde mid with a hellbringer and accu bot, mainly cus they're not banned or anything...

[breakinbaddy]

What is chu's smurf account?

[pk_thunder]

What is chu's smurf account?
I don't think this as to do with strategy, but they are smurfs for a reason...

[Decency]

What is chu's smurf account?

He used outmannered for a while but that has no games played since retail. Word is that he isn't playing.


I like fayde mid with a hellbringer and accu bot, mainly cus they're not banned or anything...If they're banned, you can adjust. Accursed isn't anywhere near as frequent of a ban anymore and SR/Defiler are rare as well. Thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion, though.

[pk_thunder]

He used outmannered for a while but that has no games played since retail. Word is that he isn't playing.

If they're banned, you can adjust. Accursed isn't anywhere near as frequent of a ban anymore and SR/Defiler are rare as well. Thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion, though.
SR and accu are solid bans, and if they can be adjusted, what would they be (like saying pick x but if u can't then pick w/e)?

thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion, though.

(I was only talking about sr and accu lane tho)

[Asinine]

For torturer with nomes, does his ulti heal himself when toggled on?

A. No, it only works for the initial toggle on cost. =(

New question, does mana /health regeneration stack with different items? So lets say I have stormspirit and Sac Stone, is that 300% mana regen, 150% each or more like 225%(1.5 x 1.5)?

[EspritFort]

for torturer with nomes, does his ulti heal himself when toggled on?

A. No, it only works for the initial toggle on cost. =(

new question, does mana /health regeneration stack with different items? So lets say i have stormspirit and sac stone, is that 300% mana regen, 150% each or more like 225%(1.5 x 1.5)?

300. 150%+150%

[RUSS_YOU_AM]

how to queque a combo

[pk_thunder]

how to queque a combo
it's queue...

anyways u hold shift to queue up stuff, like so I wanna use skill q followed by skill w and followed by item e

I'd put in:

shift + q -> shift + w -> shift + alt + e

some skills u don't want to queue because of the long backswing (like andro's ult and then a pk, best to do it manually)

[FlamerFuel]

Runed axe:

1. How big is the splash area?

2. Does Hatchet effekt splash damage on heroes when attacking creeps?


(yes I did a search first)

[pk_thunder]

Runed axe:

1. How big is the splash area?

2. Does Hatchet effekt splash damage on heroes when attacking creeps?


(yes I did a search first)
1) splash dmg is in a radius 225

2) splash dmg depends on how hard you hit. if I have a hatchet and I'm hitting say 100 with it then all the creeps around me will get hit with 40. If I am hitting a hero for 50 (with hatchet) then all the creeps will get dealt 40% of that, which is 20. the hatchet shouldn't have an effect on the splash because it all depends on the main target (should double check this)

[robbiek1]

1) splash dmg is in a radius 225

2) splash dmg depends on how hard you hit. if I have a hatchet and I'm hitting say 100 with it then all the creeps around me will get hit with 40. If I am hitting a hero for 50 (with hatchet) then all the creeps will get dealt 40% of that, which is 20. the hatchet shouldn't have an effect on the splash because it all depends on the main target (should double check this)

I think he means, if you hit the main target(which is a creep) with a hatchet, will te hero behind that creep get more dmg?
In that case, yes, the main target gets more dmg of the hatchet, so will the hero get more dmg of the splash then without a hatchet.

~Robbie

[pk_thunder]

I think he means, if you hit the main target(which is a creep) with a hatchet, will te hero behind that creep get more dmg?
In that case, yes, the main target gets more dmg of the hatchet, so will the hero get more dmg of the splash then without a hatchet.

~Robbie
ik, and it should, because it transfers 40% of the dmg dealt to the creep (it's pretty much like saw tDL's self buff, the hatchet that is, and is just extra dmg for ur autoattack, but only on creeps) so it's basically like:

(dmg u do + hatchet effects on creeps) x .4 = splash dmg

(not 100% sure on this, best wait for elementuser or mech forums, which should have a quick "AAQ" thread too...)

[BrutalOne]

Whats the deal with Soul Reaper almost always banned in banning pick games? I just cant figure it on my own :(

[Meowshi]

Whats the deal with Soul Reaper almost always banned in banning pick games? I just cant figure it on my own :(

He's really, really, really good.

1% damage by staying alive in a team fight is nothing to laugh at. Couple that with a 200 damage heal / nuke every 6 seconds, and an instakill move + stun, he's pretty good in every lineup.

Not only that, but he can also ancient at level 5 / 7 fairly easily due to his aura.

[Dalzar]

can't log in noh after changing a password - getting invalid password note
i can login w/ new pass on hon forums tho ... sup?

[BrutalOne]

He's really, really, really good.

1% damage by staying alive in a team fight is nothing to laugh at. Couple that with a 200 damage heal / nuke every 6 seconds, and an instakill move + stun, he's pretty good in every lineup.

Not only that, but he can also ancient at level 5 / 7 fairly easily due to his aura.

ty mate!

[pk_thunder]

basically any hero with an aoe heal is good, and the more they can spam it the better


can't log in noh after changing a password - getting invalid password note
i can login w/ new pass on hon forums tho ... sup?
try tech support, this is the strategy forums...

[Semicarry]

Is nullstone supposed to block valkyries arrow?

[MadPsycho]

Is nullstone supposed to block valkyries arrow?

No, as Valk's javelin is not a direct target skill.

[Benny`]

Yes, because that's the way valks arrow was coded in dota if I recall correctly.

[pk_thunder]

tested in practice mode, it does not block the jav and the jav is not a single target skill (it doesn't give info when u hover over heroes, only lights up)

[Semicarry]

I know it doesn't block it and thats why i asked if its a bug or not.

[pk_thunder]

it's not single target just like chipper's rockets (and glac's aoe spell that can't be single target like witch slayer's aoe stun) because when you hover it over a hero it doesn't give info of them and only glows a bit.

[EGNesTea420]

So another question from a guy still kind of hovering around the upper 1650+ range. I've been recently thinking about carries who have the potential to go mid (and do well). Pretty much what I'm wondering is what would you guys consider the best carry to put mid that can still do very well late game? (I'm trying to get a bigger stable roster of heroes that I can pubstomp with going mid lane)

An example would be one match where I played a pretty good soulstealer early on, got some early kills and some good early farm but then succumbed to a warbeast and madman who just simply out carried me. (And a scout on my team who couldn't farm for dick, but thats another story all together) Pretty much I know that SS is very much a mid game carry but often times I find pub games tend to last a bit. At the very least I'm wondering what a decent pick up would be if my opponent ends up getting a good hard carry.

These are the carries I could see mid and what I think their strengths are late:

:arac: She scales really well late due to that precision buff even though I generally tend to build her as a mid game powerhouse (2-3x Soulscream rings, riftshards, whispering helm). I've had good luck on her recently in regards to carrying.

:madm: He has been known to be able to mid but he's not the best mid out there and gets kind of countered. Plus not sure how he is post-nerf.

:corr: He's a good anti carry (even though BKB late game kind of nullifies draining the damage on the enemy carry) but I haven't had the best of luck recently with him.

:pupp: Still a solid carry after all the nerfs? I havent played him but once since the lifesteal nerf, wondering how he is still.

:moon: This is one I've been thinking about giving a go more often in pubs. She can mid well with strong harass from her moon beam. In team fights a good ult can dominate people and a geo bane + glaives = mass damage. I honestly think she probably has the best carry potential out of all of these mid heroes but I could be wrong, I haven't played her in a while.



Sorry for another long post but I'm really trying to kind of figure out what I'm doing here and get something that works.

[shackleferd]

I tried playing Gauntlets the other day and i dont know why but his second ability isnt working right. It wont show the "red indicator" as to how i want to shoot the gloves, it just shoots out like devo's hook, that is, no "bend" or change in direction, is there a down load Im missing? or something I am not doing right? please help.

Thank you,
Shackelferd

[pk_thunder]

^I think only his ult does that?

[Dragnmn]

I tried playing Gauntlets the other day and i dont know why but his second ability isnt working right. It wont show the "red indicator" as to how i want to shoot the gloves, it just shoots out like devo's hook, that is, no "bend" or change in direction, is there a down load Im missing? or something I am not doing right? please help.

Thank you,
Shackelferd

It used to bend, now it's more like Devourer's hook with the difference that you both end up where you click.

[EGNesTea420]

Ok, what do you guys think about this? Rampage mid. I just tried it in a match and did pretty good against a decent fa player. Even if he would root + harass I could still get a charge + horned strike off on her which would take off like half HP. Really easy harass and pretty decent rune control, plus gives you an easy way to just charge and gank lanes.


I know it wasn't optimal to do it against an FA mid (she ****s melee) but what do you guys think about it in a normal pub setting? Rampage seems to be one of those guys that if you get a good start off on him these days you can just spiral out of control and make people afraid to show themselves in a lane.

[onion]

Hey guys

How do I share a courier? Is it worth spending 200 g on? How do I use it to runewhore?

[Meowshi]

Hey guys

How do I share a courier? Is it worth spending 200 g on? How do I use it to runewhore?

1. Top left hand corner of your screen will be a portrait of your team's heroes. Right under yours (The first one), there will be an icon of a little birdy. Click the birdy and the courier is shared with the entire team.

2. Yes. Courier is the best investment your team can actually get. Don't forget to actually use it.

3. You can't anymore. Previously, at 1:50/3:50/etc, you would go to top and send courier to bottom. If the rune was top, you have a free refilled bottle. If the rune was bottom, your courier gets the rune denying the enemy from it.

This was patched. Now, the only thing you can do is bottle ferrying- Bringing the bottle back to base via. the courier then back to you (Free refills). Or, you can use the courier as a ward (Fly it over the rune). If the rune is there, you don't need to guess where the rune is.

Obviously, given the courier's extensive amount of usage per game, I'd say just get wards.

[MCfrontalot]

Is there any way to break Gladiators showdown skill? Will a portal key break it? nullstone?

[pk_thunder]

nullstone and probably a purge and magic immunity will stop it

[Dragnmn]

Portal key or a homecoming will not stop it. In fact, you'll just get Showdowned back after you "safely" ported to base... or that's how it worked in DotA anyway...

[sohnmai]

Portal key or a homecoming will not stop it. In fact, you'll just get Showdowned back after you "safely" ported to base... or that's how it worked in DotA anyway...

If he mis-times the spikes you can portal-key out with split second timing after you get teleported back lol.


Also, where did the term steroids and cc originate from? I know they mean self-buff (like madman's ult) and disables, respectively, but I don't remember hearing anything of them when I was browsing the DotA forums "back in the day".

[pk_thunder]

If he mis-times the spikes you can portal-key out with split second timing after you get teleported back lol.


Also, where did the term steroids and cc originate from? I know they mean self-buff (like madman's ult) and disables, respectively, but I don't remember hearing anything of them when I was browsing the DotA forums "back in the day".
well do you know steroids are irl?

crowd control is a common term used for "controlling crowds" and cc basically does that (if u cc a :souls: u're basically controlling how they will play, taking away their carry and partly a "walking ult" is pretty huge). ofc it ults like tempest's actually does control crowds

[EGNesTea420]

I realize I'm asking a lot of questions here but I've got a bit more of a simple one.

What's the best thing to do in the situation where your team composition pretty much forces you to play a hero you know you aren't going to be able to do well with in the game. I just had a match where I had planned on playing :arac:. I tend to carry well with her ,ect. ect. Well we desperately needed stuns and no one else was budging. Finally I decided on a :witc: which ended up being the wrong choice against a gauntlet who could 1 shot me...


Just wondering what the hell I can do in these situations. I really want to just semi-carry a match but often times it gets to a point where picking one would only hurt us more than anything. It's really frustrating as a player and honestly it was the cause of 3 losses tonight for me.

I mean, is there anything you can do?

[Benny`]

Learn to play every hero? Or at the very least a few heroes that fit each role, so you get used to knowing how to play that role, then can hopefully transfer those skills from hero to hero.

ps. wouldn't gaunt 1 shot the arachna even more than witch? :P

[pk_thunder]

just pick the heroes that u don't know and learn them, it's not like u won't have to learn them sometime...

[EGNesTea420]

I'm not sure if you guys entirely got me.

I know how to play every hero and I can play every hero. However someone like a witch slayer doesn't have near the presence in a match that an arachna would.

It's not as much "not knowing" a hero and more of just getting shafted into a role where you can't make a major difference.

[Wwolfmmirg]

simple question: is it possible to reduce your matchmaking leave % without paying 20$?

[EGNesTea420]

simple question: is it possible to reduce your matchmaking leave % without paying 20$?

Play more games.

[Artic]

Is there a keyboard shortcut to level up abilities?

[pk_thunder]

I'm not sure if you guys entirely got me.

I know how to play every hero and I can play every hero. However someone like a witch slayer doesn't have near the presence in a match that an arachna would.

It's not as much "not knowing" a hero and more of just getting shafted into a role where you can't make a major difference.
ward whore, buy and upgrade the courier, and pray.

[Wwolfmmirg]

Play more games.
but i cant? atleast not MM games. will playing public games help decrease MM leave %?

[pk_thunder]

but i cant? atleast not MM games. will playing public games help decrease MM leave %?
ur leave % is the same for both. you can't join "no leavers" non MM games either if u're a leaver

[Meowshi]

Is there a keyboard shortcut to level up abilities?

Control+F8

bind (Key) levelupability 0 (1st skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 1 (2nd skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 3 (3rd skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 4 (4th skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 5 (stats)

[Wwolfmmirg]

doesnt look like it, my public statistics has a 4% leave and my ranked has 6%

[Wwolfmmirg]

ur leave % is the same for both. you can't join "no leavers" non MM games either if u're a leaver
my above post was referring to this

[pk_thunder]

well S2 wouldn't make it like that and that's how u get out of it in beta

[Dragnmn]

Control+F8

bind (Key) levelupability 0 (1st skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 1 (2nd skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 3 (3rd skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 4 (4th skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 5 (stats)

Skipping 2?

[Meowshi]

Skipping 2?

Oh sorry, my bad

Control+F8

bind (Key) levelupability 0 (1st skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 1 (2nd skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 2 (3rd skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 3 (4th skill)
bind (Key) levelupability 4 (stats)

[Hoi_Gr]

I realize I'm asking a lot of questions here but I've got a bit more of a simple one.

What's the best thing to do in the situation where your team composition pretty much forces you to play a hero you know you aren't going to be able to do well with in the game. I just had a match where I had planned on playing :arac:. I tend to carry well with her ,ect. ect. Well we desperately needed stuns and no one else was budging. Finally I decided on a :witc: which ended up being the wrong choice against a gauntlet who could 1 shot me...


Just wondering what the hell I can do in these situations. I really want to just semi-carry a match but often times it gets to a point where picking one would only hurt us more than anything. It's really frustrating as a player and honestly it was the cause of 3 losses tonight for me.

I mean, is there anything you can do?

You'll be surprised by how much you can tinker with hero picks and still have an excellent team. Most people will stress the 3 ranged, 2 melee, 1 carry, 1 semi-carry, 1 tank, 2 supporters,2 gangers playstyle even if it forces a team into some horrible situations like WS against Gauntlet, DW, Pred etc. It's really up to you to make the right choice no matter what the team thinks "they need". You just have to make damn sure you are confident with the hero you are playing (sure you can play all heroes but it's impossible to play every hero equally good) and that there aren't any obvious ways to get countered. I have no idea what the line up was in the particular game but if you tell me the mode and what was banned/picked I'm pretty sure I can come up with some alternative that wouldn't have resulted in you getting massacred.

TLDR; Don't bother with the typical picking bullzhit everyone is trying to sell you. Most of the time they haven't thought about it too hard.

[iBEgoingHAM]

Is there a channel with an existing Hon trivia bot?

I know i've been asking this question a lot of times. But haven't received a lot of responses from others.

[EGNesTea420]

You'll be surprised by how much you can tinker with hero picks and still have an excellent team. Most people will stress the 3 ranged, 2 melee, 1 carry, 1 semi-carry, 1 tank, 2 supporters,2 gangers playstyle even if it forces a team into some horrible situations like WS against Gauntlet, DW, Pred etc. It's really up to you to make the right choice no matter what the team thinks "they need". You just have to make damn sure you are confident with the hero you are playing (sure you can play all heroes but it's impossible to play every hero equally good) and that there aren't any obvious ways to get countered. I have no idea what the line up was in the particular game but if you tell me the mode and what was banned/picked I'm pretty sure I can come up with some alternative that wouldn't have resulted in you getting massacred.

TLDR; Don't bother with the typical picking bullzhit everyone is trying to sell you. Most of the time they haven't thought about it too hard.

Mhm good advice.

It was AP which is always part of the issue. I'm actually sort of thinking of switching over to BD/BP games now just because I'm getting sick of all the last minute picks that leaves it more up to luck than actual picking strategy.

[Perluck]

Just asking, Ive got leaver status on MM. You might possibly think that I rage quitted everygame but thats not it. I played with some mates and tried to MM in team resulting us reconnecting to MM over and over to get into the same queue. This made me a leaver and im very mad at the solution you made for ppl like us.

I might be wrong but if there isnt anyway at all to fight off the leaver status without paying money I.... I dont have any words to describe how foul that is. If Im wrong please correct me, but if Im not I really hope you should consider another option like joining "leaver-games" to draw the leaver percentage down. Just like the public games.

This is called milking.. and I hope you dont do so.

Thanks in advance.