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canikizu
03-25-2010, 11:43 AM
Is Savage Mace stack with Chronos's Curse of Age?

LightRain
03-25-2010, 01:09 PM
Is Savage Mace stack with Chronos's Curse of Age?

yes, savage mace is not a bash

KayKitten
03-25-2010, 11:19 PM
what does the "Shuffle team" option do? i cant quite figure it out

SolidStroke
03-26-2010, 09:57 AM
what does the "Shuffle team" option do? i cant quite figure it out

Randomizes the team and positions of all players in the game, regardless of their PSR.

SQL
03-26-2010, 05:11 PM
Why someone have diferent avatars?

arcainic
03-26-2010, 08:35 PM
the chipmunk is for pre-purchased accounts, while the blacksmith (the superior avatar) is for non-pre-purchased accounts.... which is kinda weird.

pk_thunder
03-26-2010, 09:03 PM
the chipmunk is for pre-purchased accounts, while the blacksmith (the superior avatar) is for non-pre-purchased accounts.... which is kinda weird.
wrong...?

YawningAngel
03-27-2010, 05:37 AM
How do I build Night Hound?

LightRain
03-27-2010, 01:47 PM
I have a prepurchased and a non-prepurchased account, and both of them are Blacksmiths.
It must just check to see if you're awesome, and if yes, give you a Blacksmith.

AcMilan911
03-27-2010, 05:02 PM
how to learn new spell on shorcutkey?

D3athrow
03-28-2010, 01:17 AM
how do you get your apm up without causing massive muscle growth in your index finger by spam clicking move? i feel more nooby than usual when i have 54apm and somebody has 110

dommykinz
03-28-2010, 03:47 AM
if open beta comes,will there be any free accounts left??

ssacredd
03-28-2010, 05:50 AM
is there any way to get more invites than 3 and how?

EspritFort
03-28-2010, 10:41 AM
how to learn new spell on shorcutkey?

You can configure all hotkeys in the game preferences.


how do you get your apm up without causing massive muscle growth in your index finger by spam clicking move? i feel more nooby than usual when i have 54apm and somebody has 110

Not just clicking is an action. Using hotkeys is also taken into account.


if open beta comes,will there be any free accounts left??

What do you mean by "free accounts"?


is there any way to get more invites than 3 and how?

The beta will be opened in less than 4 days, you won't be needing any invites :)

AcMilan911
03-28-2010, 03:58 PM
@EspritFort
yeah but i dont know what is deafult button for ''learning spell'' you know,when u reach new lvl...and one more question,can someone tell me chu`'s controls?

~questions for all
how can i know counters of all hereos :)

EspritFort
03-28-2010, 05:39 PM
@EspritFort
yeah but i dont know what is deafult button for ''learning spell'' you know,when u reach new lvl.

I don't think you can use hotkeys for that, but there's a mod somewhere in the Modifications-section that allows you to automatically level abilities on leveling up.

Pure_Dank
03-29-2010, 04:43 PM
No matter where I look, I cannot find this information:

-how much hp and hp regen does 1 point in strength give
-how much mana and mana regen does 1 point in intelligence give
-how much armor and attack speed does 1 point in agility give

Please post an answer, or a link that answers this for me.

pk_thunder
03-29-2010, 05:01 PM
No matter where I look, I cannot find this information:

-how much hp and hp regen does 1 point in strength give
-how much mana and mana regen does 1 point in intelligence give
-how much armor and attack speed does 1 point in agility give

Please post an answer, or a link that answers this for me.
good site: http://www.hondb.com/?attributes

Dolomyte
03-29-2010, 05:02 PM
I have an interface question
Is there an option somewhere to disable the friend-online and friend-joined game notifications? They take up too much of my screen, i'm about to remove my friends all together.
thanks

pk_thunder
03-29-2010, 05:03 PM
I have an interface question
Is there an option somewhere to disable the friend-online and friend-joined game notifications? They take up too much of my screen, i'm about to remove my friends all together.
thanks
go to the options button and there should be something about interface (after audio, 4th one down). the bottom part of it allows u to do that.

Dolomyte
03-29-2010, 05:23 PM
thanks man

dommykinz
03-30-2010, 08:55 AM
What do you mean by "free accounts"?


free-user accounts... like "its -ok-to-play-for-free" accounts

EspritFort
03-30-2010, 01:43 PM
free-user accounts... like "its -ok-to-play-for-free" accounts

Well, that's what "open beta" means, free to play for everyone, no payment or invitation needed :)

Aesa
03-30-2010, 01:50 PM
How long is open beta expected to last? Closer to a few weeks or a few months?

(did some searches sorry if this has been answered already)

EspritFort
03-30-2010, 03:44 PM
How long is open beta expected to last? Closer to a few weeks or a few months?

(did some searches sorry if this has been answered already)

Has not yet been announced, sorry.

tohta6
03-30-2010, 07:57 PM
How do I report a griefer from a Matchmaking game?

EspritFort
03-30-2010, 09:47 PM
How do I report a griefer from a Matchmaking game?

You don't. Not a major concern currently. Most will disappear at release automatically.
If you still consider the case severe enough, contact support@heroesofnewerth.com

Spades68
03-31-2010, 01:06 AM
For ban pick I have a question, if your team bans first do they get first pick or is it random, clarify this for me plz.

LightRain
03-31-2010, 01:22 AM
first ban = first pick

omeNNN1
03-31-2010, 01:42 AM
but i need to know why i cant buy this game. says declined. I KNOW THERE IS MONEY IN MY ACCOUNT. am i the only having this problem?

Sperm`X
03-31-2010, 02:16 AM
whats with the chiprel and bs avatars?

dommykinz
03-31-2010, 04:13 AM
Noob question : where do i put a sig!? i cant see it in my profile D:

EspritFort
03-31-2010, 08:52 AM
whats with the chiprel and bs avatars?

Temporary replacements. Custom avatars will be enabled again someday.


Noob question : where do i put a sig!? i cant see it in my profile D:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/profile.php?do=editsignature

AcMilan911
03-31-2010, 01:55 PM
what is the best controls for inventory items except alt+q etc.?

EspritFort
03-31-2010, 02:53 PM
what is the best controls for inventory items except alt+q etc.?

The best is obviously what your fingers can reach the fastest. That's why they are customizable :)

AcMilan911
03-31-2010, 04:09 PM
The best is obviously what your fingers can reach the fastest. That's why they are customizable :)

can u tell me yours please?

EspritFort
03-31-2010, 04:54 PM
can u tell me yours please?

I use the default with alt as modifier

KarsaOrlong
03-31-2010, 06:48 PM
I know how to type in colours with ^## but how do you set it to talk in raimbows with a single code?

pk_thunder
03-31-2010, 08:52 PM
I know how to type in colours with ^## but how do you set it to talk in raimbows with a single code?
you can't, there a generator out there that can do it tho I think.

KarsaOrlong
03-31-2010, 11:05 PM
yeah coz i saw someone doing it.. so was wondering if there was something i didnt know

Pure_Dank
04-01-2010, 03:01 AM
Thanks, that helps.

Kaesetorte
04-01-2010, 08:07 AM
yeah coz i saw someone doing it.. so was wondering if there was something i didnt know

He just used a new colorcode for each letter or the mentioned generator

Bancai
04-01-2010, 09:24 AM
How do neutral creeps spawn ? what's the interval and the "mechanics" ?

pk_thunder
04-01-2010, 09:35 AM
How do neutral creeps spawn ? what's the interval and the "mechanics" ?
at every minute

ie x:00

if there is an object (wards/heroes/creeps) in 400 radius of the camp the creeps will not spawn (dead stuff count).

Bancai
04-01-2010, 09:37 AM
so at minute 1,minute 2 ,min 3,min 4 etc ?

pk_thunder
04-01-2010, 09:37 AM
so at minute 1,minute 2 ,min 3,min 4 etc ?
every minute (but they first spawn at 0:30 tho)
creep waves are at like x:14 and x:45, those aren't exact

n0ah_
04-01-2010, 10:43 AM
I remember finding a thread about armor and effective hit points on this forum but I can't seem to find it again. I remember it had a chart with armor on one axis and hp on the other really showing how much it helped.

Can anyone help me find it please? I've tried searching myself but for some reason I cant' find it. :(

LightRain
04-01-2010, 01:15 PM
every minute (but they first spawn at 0:30 tho)
creep waves are at like x:14 and x:45, those aren't exact

normal creep waves spawn every 30 seconds, starting at 0:00.
That's why every pull spot can be pulled at two times in a minute, congruent mod 30. eg medium camp pull to safe lane (hb top, leg bottom) at x:15 or x:45.


I remember finding a thread about armor and effective hit points on this forum but I can't seem to find it again. I remember it had a chart with armor on one axis and hp on the other really showing how much it helped.

Can anyone help me find it please? I've tried searching myself but for some reason I cant' find it. :(
I don't remember where the thread is but I use http://honwiki.net/wiki/Armor for my reference, it has a chart
(also there is a link to a thread in the Talk page on that wiki page if you're interested)

Lilipot
04-02-2010, 08:18 PM
How to drag devourer hook

TheGopher
04-03-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm looking for a guide or maybe a list of all the items in-game and a little information about each one and maybe what kind of hero it's best for.

Items are the only thing I'm really missing about the game, and definitely the biggest learning curve out of everything.

Mr`Imperator
04-03-2010, 06:28 PM
is it worth it to learn to play ophelia?
I used to be good with chen on dota, but that was ages ago, and now I cant seem to get a hang on her. is it really worth it learning to play her again? it feels more work then pleasure even though i know that she rapes.

Espeon
04-03-2010, 06:35 PM
I never bothered with Chen in dota but I've played Ophelia a few times in HoN and it's pretty satisfying to micro the creeps effectively and lead your team to an early victory.

pk_thunder
04-03-2010, 07:47 PM
is it worth it to learn to play ophelia?
I used to be good with chen on dota, but that was ages ago, and now I cant seem to get a hang on her. is it really worth it learning to play her again? it feels more work then pleasure even though i know that she rapes.
prophelia is top tier, so why not?

Jeffroy
04-03-2010, 07:57 PM
Hey Guys

Sorry for the question, but i dont find any guide for electrician? :elec:
Is that possible ?

EspritFort
04-03-2010, 08:02 PM
Hey Guys

Sorry for the question, but i dont find any guide for electrician? :elec:
Is that possible ?

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=6615&highlight=Electrician

Jerada
04-04-2010, 10:10 AM
A little question about :scou:. Does his vanish still work while targeting someone with his ulti? or does it go off? Also if i for example use codex on an enemy while in vanish does it also turn off?

tl;dr: Does skill/item not turn vanish off when used?

pk_thunder
04-04-2010, 01:02 PM
A little question about :scou:. Does his vanish still work while targeting someone with his ulti? or does it go off? Also if i for example use codex on an enemy while in vanish does it also turn off?

tl;dr: Does skill/item not turn vanish off when used?
u asked this already in the other forum >.>

yes it does, not for channeling until complete...

Jerada
04-04-2010, 01:07 PM
Sorry, was just making sure by asking more people XD Thanks for the help :D

S1mA
04-04-2010, 01:40 PM
How do i lock slots when hostin' game in this new interface ?
p.s. sry for dumb quastion :P
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get it now xD

Spades68
04-04-2010, 02:18 PM
I don't feel like my PC is "bad" yet I seem to have low FPS in game when things start to pick up.

Around 30 FPS is normal when things are going on, and the later game big team fights its like 10-18 FPS...

Specs:

OS: Windows 7
Ram: 4g (DDR2 800mhz)
Graphics Card: Asus Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS 512mb
Processor: Intel Pentium Dual CPU 3.20 GHz

Problem - No matter what I set the graphics at or if I have mods on or off the FPS is always the same... If I have it all on HIGH with all the graphic enhancements checked it still stays at 30, if I have them all on low and unchecked its still the same.

Its quite upsetting that I can't get at least a steady 50 FPS...

I'm willing to work with anyone who's willing to talk to me, I'd like to figure this out (vent preferably).

Defas
04-05-2010, 08:34 AM
Is ingame banlist working properly ? Bcoz i can't remove ppl from it by typing /banlist delete nick and i never get announce about banned player joined the game.

blitz24
04-05-2010, 08:42 AM
are there any luck of having the replays back? the old replays before the 0.3.x.x patch? and the new replays played at 0.3.x.x ?

xcidar
04-05-2010, 09:10 AM
Is there or will be a possibility to play replay files without having the full game installed? Like a replay player or smth. Or maybe a converter to a video file?

I assume, the replay file content is only game related data. No video or audio, since it's so small.

BearCavalry
04-05-2010, 11:24 AM
Is there a list somewhere of everything that was ported over from DotA, what they are now called, and what is different? It would make the transition easier.

Pedosaurus
04-05-2010, 11:40 AM
indeed there is one sec ill find it

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=64274

BearCavalry
04-05-2010, 12:15 PM
Thanks!

Now if I could just get these icon replacements working for the items, I would be good to go...

ChaGan
04-05-2010, 03:15 PM
legio spins are magic, physical or superior magic?

pk_thunder
04-05-2010, 04:13 PM
legio spins are magic, physical or superior magic?
I think it's magic

EspritFort
04-06-2010, 06:12 AM
I assume, the replay file content is only game related data. No video or audio, since it's so small.

Exactly. You'll have to make the videos yourself.


I think it's magic

And I know it's physical.

pk_thunder
04-06-2010, 06:16 PM
And I know it's physical.
pretty sure I heard somewhere it's magic, but u'd know this more than me so >.>

Killstealing
04-06-2010, 06:56 PM
pretty sure I heard somewhere it's magic, but u'd know this more than me so >.>
it's the magic axe of desolation!

pk_thunder
04-06-2010, 07:24 PM
it's the magic axe of desolation!
balance issue, but I did find it weird when I saw that >.>

Leanderon
04-07-2010, 09:47 AM
:wild: During ganking and jungling wat is the best way to control and micro both bear and wild to ensure that wildsoul does not suffer death during the early stages and during ganks.

Alexxa
04-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Which are the best jungle heroes?

SolidStroke
04-07-2010, 01:48 PM
pretty sure I heard somewhere it's magic, but u'd know this more than me so >.>

You damage the Wild things in the Jungle, the things that are magic immune.

AsianGirl
04-07-2010, 04:05 PM
So creeps are attacking the tower, I'm at the very edge of it's range, and there are no enemy heroes near by, I'm not attacking the tower, and I use a mana potion, it instantly switches targets to me, hits me once, then hits creeps again right after.

my question is.

WHY?!

AsianGirl
04-07-2010, 04:07 PM
Which are the best jungle heroes?

Heroes that take advantage of AOE damage benefit the most.

Zephyr can stack spawns and then destroy them with tornadoes.

Legionnaire benefits on stacked spawns due to higher rate of Spin

Tempest can benefit due to outright damage of summons as well as ganks


others include

War Beast
Wild Soul
Predator
other Heroes with Whispering Helm

LightRain
04-07-2010, 04:17 PM
So creeps are attacking the tower, I'm at the very edge of it's range, and there are no enemy heroes near by, I'm not attacking the tower, and I use a mana potion, it instantly switches targets to me, hits me once, then hits creeps again right after.

my question is.

WHY?!

match id?

powerofsk
04-08-2010, 05:18 PM
:wild: During ganking and jungling wat is the best way to control and micro both bear and wild to ensure that wildsoul does not suffer death during the early stages and during ganks.

Use the bear to tank the creeps.
Put a hatchet and iron shield on him to help for that.
Pull the lane whenever you can.


For ganking, I generally control both of them and right click the guy you want to gank. If you get an Entangle, try to move your hero a bit closer to the enemy so you can continue the chase.

If you are GETTING ganked, run away and hope your bear autoattacks the enemy. Teleport him to you at choke points so he can sorta block the way for you.

QJam
04-08-2010, 06:46 PM
As someone that plays nothing but :glac:, what should my avg CS look like? When babysitting I usually end up giving 90% of the last hits to my carry... taking one or two for wards here and there in the first few minutes. It usually isn't until after I get my Plated Greaves do I start faming neutrals to get my CS going at all.

pk_thunder
04-08-2010, 09:06 PM
As someone that plays nothing but :glac:, what should my avg CS look like? When babysitting I usually end up giving 90% of the last hits to my carry... taking one or two for wards here and there in the first few minutes. It usually isn't until after I get my Plated Greaves do I start faming neutrals to get my CS going at all.
farming neuts?
ur doing it wrong
VERY WRONG
u should have a crap farm, if ur neuting then ur a bad bad person cus ur denying ur carry farm
u should have tons of denies, cus thats what u should be focusing on
also u need tons of assists, cus then ur supporting ur team

QJam
04-08-2010, 10:17 PM
farming neuts?
ur doing it wrong
VERY WRONG
u should have a crap farm, if ur neuting then ur a bad bad person cus ur denying ur carry farm
u should have tons of denies, cus thats what u should be focusing on
also u need tons of assists, cus then ur supporting ur team

I usually creep stack two camps and take one for myself. That puts me around ~50/10-15 CS Just finished a game where I went 3-4-20+ so it's not that I'm trying to deny my carry farm... I find myself getting ONE bracer, greaves and a BKB and that's it the whole game. The rest of my $$ goes to warding and counter warding and even then I don't find myself getting 400 every 6 minutes.

pk_thunder
04-08-2010, 11:02 PM
I usually creep stack two camps and take one for myself. That puts me around ~50/10-15 CS Just finished a game where I went 3-4-20+ so it's not that I'm trying to deny my carry farm... I find myself getting ONE bracer, greaves and a BKB and that's it the whole game. The rest of my $$ goes to warding and counter warding and even then I don't find myself getting 400 every 6 minutes.
that's all u need, in fact a BKB is as luxurious as a support should even go to
unless if ur a mass pusher, u will have a hard time farming but u only need ur skills cus otherwise u'd be a hero called a carry.

Electroid
04-09-2010, 03:24 AM
yes some heroes in this game just don't require that many items to farm up, mainly that of support heroes (glacius, ophelia, demented) as they can rely on their skills to do the job.

I usually find myself having greaves, port key, and a bracer for most of the game, if im lucky ill build something else maybe like a shamans' headress..or more mana regen.

with some heroes as in scout who NEEDS items to be effective

Isver
04-10-2010, 04:06 PM
My question is: why is the community so unfriendly?

I installed the game today. I first wanted to do some practise games to check out some champions, so I know at least one or two champs before jumping into a game. When I asked if there were bots for practise, I got insulted. When I joined a newbie game later and asked a question about the rankings I got kicked. When I asked something about damage items in the chat, I was told to press alt-f4. I was insulted during the champ selection, and in game. People insult each other ingame constantly anyway. The chat is horrible. People laugh about rape, incest, dildos and what else they consider to be funny, and any serious question gets you nonsense as reply, insults or is simply ignored.

I play multiplayer games since the time of MUDs (text based multiplayer RPGs) and the first impression of this game is that it has the worst community I ever found. Even the people in World of Warcraft were more mature. This is my first impression, maybe I'm wrong. I'm possibly not making friends by posting such as this, but that doesn't change the impression I got.

So my question is: Is the community really that horrible? Is it possible to have a game with random people without insults flying around? Are insults probably a part of the game and I'm just too old-fashioned to join the fray? Or did I just join the game on a bad day?

Meowshi
04-10-2010, 05:24 PM
So my question is: Is the community really that horrible? Is it possible to have a game with random people without insults flying around? Are insults probably a part of the game and I'm just too old-fashioned to join the fray? Or did I just join the game on a bad day?

They join --> People flame them --> They get better --> They meet someone in their previous position --> They flame them

Insults are a part of the game, and you're likely to be too "old-fashioned". However, if you still want to play, there are plenty of ways for you to do so without getting flamed. For starters, look up the Training Grounds- they have two clans running (LN and HfH) which are somewhat exclusively for new players.

Try to find other people in your position and play with them.

Mickfrick
04-11-2010, 03:26 AM
is hellbringer a mid-game carry

Drasha
04-11-2010, 03:28 AM
is hellbringer a mid-game carry
no but some people build him as a carry for fun.

Mickfrick
04-11-2010, 03:45 AM
well, i just carried 5 games in a row, getting a frostburn, a codex(usually not enough money to get lvl 5), harkons, and phaseboots ending around 30-40 min

Jeffroy
04-11-2010, 02:17 PM
Hey guys,

Am I so stupid?
I dont find any Zephyr-Guide?

Im really confused right now ^^

Picklefeet
04-11-2010, 03:07 PM
Can someone explain what each attribute (str, int, agi) does? Like, I have an item that gives +10 strength. What does that do for me?

thanks

Ardeaf
04-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Can someone explain what each attribute (str, int, agi) does? Like, I have an item that gives +10 strength. What does that do for me?

thanks

Each point of strength gives you around 19 hp. I can't remember the exact value. Each point of Agility increases your armor and attack speed a tiny bit. Each point of Intellect gives you ~15 mana.

Every hero is either an agility, strength, or intelligence hero. Every hero gains 1 damage per 1 stat increase, respective of their "class"; ie. an agility hero gains 1 damage for every point of agility on any given item.

lBerserker
04-11-2010, 07:26 PM
wingbow
runed axe
riftshards
harkon blade

these itens stack on scout?

thank you

etspaceman
04-11-2010, 07:58 PM
wingbow
runed axe
riftshards
harkon blade

these itens stack on scout?

thank you

Riftshards does not stack with Scout's Disarm. The rest are fine.

J3rk
04-12-2010, 12:47 PM
I never found anywhere what scrim actually means or is ? Can someone tell.

Jjang
04-12-2010, 06:13 PM
I never found anywhere what scrim actually means or is ? Can someone tell.

Scrimmage, which is a match between two teams. :P

HarmDis
04-13-2010, 12:54 PM
What is the damage output for the fountain and how many times does it attack per second?

AcMilan911
04-14-2010, 01:11 AM
when to pick behemoth?

Meowshi
04-14-2010, 04:00 AM
when to pick behemoth?

You are picking a turtle lineup, or you have a very strong (weaklane) babysit / nobody to babysit in your strong lane and don't need a carry.

RoboHobos
04-14-2010, 04:07 AM
You join a game, and you blink. Your team instant picks and Ready's:
:sand::mage::nigh::scou:

Which hero(es) is/are suggested to best lessen the pain?

AcMilan911
04-14-2010, 10:30 AM
You are picking a turtle lineup, or you have a very strong (weaklane) babysit / nobody to babysit in your strong lane and don't need a carry.
so when i play with which hereos and play against?

Meowshi
04-14-2010, 12:28 PM
so when i play with which hereos and play against?

So like, say you have Pyromancer, Hammerstorm, Corrupted Disciple, and Demented Shaman. Your enemy has Pollywog Priest, Soulstealer, Electrician, Slither, and Torturer.

You know they're going for a push strat. You have Pyromancer / Hammerstorm on weak, Corrupted Disciple in mid, and absolutely nobody on your strong lane but a demented shaman. You already have a carry- Corrupted Disciple AND Hammerstorm, so picking another moneymaker isn't the best thing to do. Behemoth would be a perfect pick- It would give your team much needed stuns, counterpush, AoE rape, AND you don't need to farm all game.

Similarly, if you have a turtle lineup- Forsaken Archer Mid / DS Pesti strong / Valkyrie Behemoth (Look at dat 3 carries), behemoth would also be viable. If they try to push, your ult / stuns will be able to push them off until forsaken, pesti, and valk get rediculous.

AcMilan911
04-14-2010, 01:11 PM
thx very much :)
what means pubstomping?

pk_thunder
04-14-2010, 08:35 PM
thx very much :)
what means pubstomping?
joining a pub with unfair advantage to the pubstomping team (they will generally be friends and have locks)

Blekfis
04-15-2010, 02:16 AM
When is the map editor function coming up and is it only for people who pre-purschased the game before open beta came up?

// Blekfis

LightRain
04-15-2010, 05:02 PM
Last I heard, map editor was not going to come until soon before or after release (possibly coinciding with the K2 SDK), but you would have to get a quote from an S2 employee to be sure (plans change, after all).

It will not be restricted to people who prepurchased. Prepurchasing gets you a gold shield + name, the ability to taunt in beta (taunts will probably be available to everyone at release, but don't quote me on that), and a smug, obnoxious aura of superiority.

kyougarashi
04-15-2010, 11:48 PM
Does HoN has a life?

do you?
study grammar at school bro

kyougarashi
04-15-2010, 11:58 PM
Different view: if you have a nuke hero, get Post Haste boots a.s.a.p. It is usually my very first item on the Pyromancer (open with marchers + 2 manapots - then straight to Post Haste).

Why?

You get to pick low HP heroes across the map and nuke them to shreds by simply porting in on a nearby mob. So even if that dreaded Moon Queen or Madman switches lanes because you just hit lvl 6 and got your nuke, you port to their lane and one-shot them until they lag out on xp / gold.

you sure that in every game you get to have that luxurious farm to get a ph always? think about it. games arent filled with pro players for you. more filled with baddies than pros. dont shell out information which may mislead other people to thinking building ph is good for pyro. and not every game has a frail carry which you can nuke down in just 2 spells. think about it. everything`s situational in hon.

i personally play pyro as my 2nd fave and i dont get a problem with buying 2 homecoming stones for switching lane ganks or owning ghost marchers because fervor increases his aspd and movespeed decently even just at lvl 1 which can give way to my bottle, to :Glowstone: then onto :SacrificialStone: or switching it up to (if the carries or squishies are way too dumb to see it coming) a:Portalkey:.

think... please...

probinxano
04-16-2010, 03:10 AM
I downloaded HON then i run it and installed but then, when i click the icon of hon in the desktop after the installation, theres a prompt message saying "K2 - fatal error"..what should be done?can somebody help me or at least tell me what is going on??

Neru
04-16-2010, 06:47 AM
try this http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=100579

ImANinja09
04-16-2010, 07:07 AM
You join a game, and you blink. Your team instant picks and Ready's:
:sand::mage::nigh::scou:

Which hero(es) is/are suggested to best lessen the pain?

:hamm::blac::witc::engi::mali: <=== Bearded manly men

********************************

Just to verify..

what kind of Modifier is Slither's Toxicity passive again? Attack or Exclusive??

BDMlol
04-16-2010, 09:25 AM
:hamm::blac::witc::engi::mali: <=== Bearded manly men

********************************

Just to verify..

what kind of Modifier is Slither's Toxicity passive again? Attack or Exclusive??
Toxicity is an attack modifier.

Nolifer
04-16-2010, 09:43 AM
I downloaded HON then i run it and installed but then, when i click the icon of hon in the desktop after the installation, theres a prompt message saying "K2 - fatal error"..what should be done?can somebody help me or at least tell me what is going on??
Most likely something went wrong with the installation, if you're installing on vista, try installing again as administrator. If the error tells you you're missing some .dll file, you could dl that from the internet(at your own risk) and put it in your hon folder.

AcMilan911
04-16-2010, 11:19 AM
btw why everyone playing andromeda and slither as carry?

Meowshi
04-16-2010, 01:00 PM
btw why everyone playing andromeda and slither as carry?

The same reason people pick Chipper and Devourer. The same reason why people go carrymancer, carrybringer, carryjeraziah, carrytempest, carryshaman, carryjester, etc.

Because they're bad.

AcMilan911
04-16-2010, 01:49 PM
can you tell me tier 1 tier 2 and tier 3 hereos

Meowshi
04-16-2010, 02:02 PM
can you tell me tier 1 tier 2 and tier 3 hereos
I'm assuming you mean like, Good heroes / bad heroes, but it's very situational and dependant on your lineup, because this is a team game.

However, I'll give you a list of heroes I'd, under no circumstance, use (Since there are better heroes in the pool and these heroes become somewhat useless, or if the other hero was in that situation they could do the same + a lot more)
:arma::arac::devo::warb::dark::ramp::nigh:+chipper

AcMilan911
04-16-2010, 04:08 PM
why armadon is useless?

Meowshi
04-16-2010, 04:23 PM
why armadon is useless?

Because pestilence and hammerstorm can output the same damage AND have an AoE stun for teamfights with the same items.

While Armadon is definitely tankier, he has much less lane presence, as well as less presence in team fights. His role is very niche- To snot storm spam escaping people to not let them get away from team fights. With hammerstorm and pestilence, they wouldn't even be able to get away in the first place.

Armadon isn't useless, there's just much better heroes than him.

BDMlol
04-16-2010, 08:41 PM
can you tell me tier 1 tier 2 and tier 3 hereos
See this thread, be sure to read the whole thing.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=56767

Skyswimsky
04-17-2010, 08:37 AM
Where can i report bugs for the HoN Test Client, must i write a mail 2 S2 or is there somewhere an Option (like a "bug report" button ?^?)

EspritFort
04-17-2010, 10:18 AM
Where can i report bugs for the HoN Test Client, must i write a mail 2 S2 or is there somewhere an Option (like a "bug report" button ?^?)

http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/report_bug.php

Unicycles
04-18-2010, 04:01 AM
I've been playing around with Chronos lately, He's still fairly new for me (I was always deterred due to the amount of shockingly bad players insta-picking him)

So far I've been building him with Steamboots, eldar parasite, Shield breaker then charged hammer + luxuries after that. My question is: Would it be beneficial to build Charged hammer before Shield breaker to increase farm rate? Or even just claw?

Also, would building alch bones after boots slow me down too much? (under normal farming/ganking conditions.)

icantrixx
04-18-2010, 04:42 AM
A general rule of thumb would be to always build the items that help you farm somewhat first.

Neru
04-18-2010, 08:16 AM
Runed Axe is almost always best on Chronos if you can make it within 20 minutes.

Nolifer
04-18-2010, 11:37 AM
I've been playing around with Chronos lately, He's still fairly new for me (I was always deterred due to the amount of shockingly bad players insta-picking him)

So far I've been building him with Steamboots, eldar parasite, Shield breaker then charged hammer + luxuries after that. My question is: Would it be beneficial to build Charged hammer before Shield breaker to increase farm rate? Or even just claw?

Also, would building alch bones after boots slow me down too much? (under normal farming/ganking conditions.)
Just going to comment on the shield breaker + charged hammer.

Shieldbreaker reduces the armor of opponents you attack. Charged hammer applies magic dmg to your dps, therefore not synergizing well with shieldbreaker. I can see that you'd want charged hammer for farming purposes, but I recommend you replace charged hammer with runed axe.

Hellslayer
04-19-2010, 01:37 AM
What are the stats of the first killed Kondor, the second, the third, and so on?
What are the item drop for the fourth Kondor onward?

How much damage can do 2 lvl4 war beast wolves with the 2 others War beast skills maxed and active while backdoring each tower? with only the tower and the 2 wolves presents, and the war beast not using it ulti (therefore standard ms for the wolves).

Hellslayer
04-19-2010, 01:51 AM
Which level of PSR is necessary to stop being paired with 1500 psr or less in MM?

Antiviotik
04-19-2010, 02:13 AM
hi guys i wanna play HoN for LAN edition old verson 0.1.66.2 or 0.1.66.1 pls pls pls

Meowshi
04-19-2010, 02:25 AM
What are the stats of the first killed Kondor, the second, the third, and so on?
What are the item drop for the fourth Kondor onward?

How much damage can do 2 lvl4 war beast wolves with the 2 others War beast skills maxed and active while backdoring each tower? with only the tower and the 2 wolves presents, and the war beast not using it ulti (therefore standard ms for the wolves).

1. It depends on how long the game goes on. Kongor has a buff which gets stronger as time progresses, nothing to do with how many times he died.

2. Not much. Don't bother, waste of wolves

Nolifer
04-19-2010, 10:42 AM
Which level of PSR is necessary to stop being paired with 1500 psr or less in MM?
PSR is not a factor in MM.

Hellslayer
04-19-2010, 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Collapser http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=1438913#post1438913)
Which level of PSR is necessary to stop being paired with 1500 psr or less in MM?



PSR is not a factor in MM.


In that case, is there a way then to stop being paired with 1500 or less psr? I'm hovering around 1600 psr.

At this point, I'm paired with 1600+ people half the time and generally have a great game, while the other half I'm paired with 1500 psr player, which generally are ranging from one-sided to exasperating as a 1500 psr player is often either a good player smurfing or a newbie that will die a lot. Team ends up unbalanced.

I do know it's a beta, and that improvement are coming as announced in the news that pop up when launching the game, but is there already way? Should I increase my KD ratio, or any other stats?

Nolifer
04-19-2010, 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Collapser http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=1438913#post1438913)
Which level of PSR is necessary to stop being paired with 1500 psr or less in MM?





In that case, is there a way then to stop being paired with 1500 or less psr? I'm hovering around 1600 psr.

At this point, I'm paired with 1600+ people half the time and generally have a great game, while the other half I'm paired with 1500 psr player, which generally are ranging from one-sided to exasperating as a 1500 psr player is often either a good player smurfing or a newbie that will die a lot. Team ends up unbalanced.

I do know it's a beta, and that improvement are coming as announced in the news that pop up when launching the game, but is there already way? Should I increase my KD ratio, or any other stats?
You're confusing PSR with SMR. And don't play to improve any specific stats, play to win every match you join.

EspritFort
04-19-2010, 06:54 PM
hi guys i wanna play HoN for LAN edition old verson 0.1.66.2 or 0.1.66.1 pls pls pls

You can't.

Hellslayer
04-19-2010, 10:27 PM
You're confusing PSR with SMR. And don't play to improve any specific stats, play to win every match you join.


Sorry. I do have around 1600 SMR, at which SMR levels do you stop being paired with player at 1500 SMR or less in the automatic matchmaking?
Even if you reach, let say, 1700+ SMR, are you still playing with 1500 SMR accounts?

I am playing with 3-5 1500 SMR or less players about 50% of my automatic MM games for the moment.

Nolifer
04-20-2010, 04:25 PM
Sorry. I do have around 1600 SMR, at which SMR levels do you stop being paired with player at 1500 SMR or less in the automatic matchmaking?
Even if you reach, let say, 1700+ SMR, are you still playing with 1500 SMR accounts?

I am playing with 3-5 1500 SMR or less players about 50% of my automatic MM games for the moment.
I can't give you an honest answer to this, but I imagine S2 has qualms about the relation between balanced games and quick games.

I'm sure they'll make something like making it possible to get matched with players way below your SMR only after you've been matchmaking queued for a very long time.

Grovel
04-20-2010, 05:32 PM
Voodoo Jester Item Order Question:

Basically using the standard build laid out in the Big Hero Guide.

I get to the point where my inventory looks like this:

Steam Boots
Power Supply
Bottle
Fortified Bracelet
Fortified Bracelet
Homecoming Stone

Now I want to start moving toward Staff of the Mastery. What's the order I buy Mighty Axe, Glowstone, and Neophyte's Book (I assume that order)?

And more importantly, what do I stash to make room for any 1 or all of those items?

I assume the bracelets but they're nice rounded items. Should I skip the 2nd bracelet and go right for Axe? I could give up homecoming stone, but I always like having one in my inventory to jump lanes or port home quick.

What's your advice?

LightRain
04-20-2010, 06:05 PM
Never* pass up Homecoming stone.
Sell a Fortified and get a Glowstone. (you give up 3 damage and gain hp+mp). The extra 200 gold between Glow and Axe shouldn't be that hard to hold onto unless you're dying frequently enough that sotm is a pipedream.

On the other hand you can buy Mighty Axe first, and if things start to go bad you can turn it into a Shrunken Head instead.

*99.99% of the time, and the exceptions come from having an outpost at hand, or expecting to die in a rax push, or needing the slot for something more important, like a Token of Life or... Bananas.

AncientPC
04-20-2010, 08:54 PM
What do the percentages means under most played heroes in a player's stats? I played two games on a new account, but it gave a 72% to Chronos (won game) and a 29% to Pestilence (lost game).

gerome795
04-21-2010, 01:10 AM
can u stack the frostburn effect with elder parasite?

What is the best build for maliken for killing heroes?

arcainic
04-21-2010, 01:16 AM
yes, bonus movespeed and frostburn slow both stack!, however lifedrain and slow from frostburn do NOT stack

DarkAnhell
04-21-2010, 04:58 PM
hey guys..

I was watching a replay the other day and i someone was using SS. I was watching the replay like if i was SS. in a team fight this guy use his ult but i think he didnt want to use it so SS made the movement of the ult but he didnt ult actually so then he use it when he wanted and he got the kills..

my question is how do you do that? i mean that your character pretend to do a skill and you dont use the skill...

sorry it is kind of confusing.. thanks if you can answer :)

gerome795
04-21-2010, 05:58 PM
what is the best item build for maliken (killing heroes/carrying)?

pk_thunder
04-21-2010, 06:02 PM
hey guys..

I was watching a replay the other day and i someone was using SS. I was watching the replay like if i was SS. in a team fight this guy use his ult but i think he didnt want to use it so SS made the movement of the ult but he didnt ult actually so then he use it when he wanted and he got the kills..

my question is how do you do that? i mean that your character pretend to do a skill and you dont use the skill...

sorry it is kind of confusing.. thanks if you can answer :)
ur talking about animation canceling?

skills cast during the animation of it but sometime there is a time before the skill goes off cus the animation needs to play (like :valk: has to throw her arrow for it to move), during that time you can press "S" or stop and it will cancel that animation, and thus the skill itself.

Kinatas
04-22-2010, 04:54 AM
how to rejoin a game ?

Nolifer
04-22-2010, 07:36 AM
can u stack the frostburn effect with elder parasite?

What is the best build for maliken for killing heroes?
Best Maliken build for killing heroes is :Codex:.

Nolifer
04-22-2010, 07:37 AM
how to rejoin a game ?
A window with the option to reconnect should pop up. If it didn't, try logging out, then logging in again.
Remember you have to do it within 300 seconds or you'll lose the option to rejoin/reconnect.

Embodying
04-22-2010, 09:27 AM
A window with the option to reconnect should pop up. If it didn't, try logging out, then logging in again.
Remember you have to do it within 300 seconds or you'll lose the option to rejoin/reconnect.
Furthermore you could press CTRL+F8 to open the console and type in "reconnect" and press enter.

Grimace
04-23-2010, 11:25 AM
what is the best item build for maliken (killing heroes/carrying)?

My favorite build is Power Treads (str), Power Supply, Whispering Helm, Insanitarius, then turn the Whispering Helm into a Symbol of Rage. Luxury items are whatever you want.

Grovel
04-23-2010, 12:57 PM
Can someone explain Puppet master's abilities to me, especially Puppet Show and Voodoo Puppet. Also, under what condition does Hold pull you back instead of just slowing?

I had to lane mid against a puppet master last night and to be honest I was completely lost.
I've read the guides and even tried him in a practice match, but his abilities still don't make a lot of sense to me outside of a match environment.

_5p1t_
04-23-2010, 04:20 PM
is there a way to delite a account?

LightRain
04-23-2010, 05:24 PM
Can someone explain Puppet master's abilities to me, especially Puppet Show and Voodoo Puppet. Also, under what condition does Hold pull you back instead of just slowing?

I had to lane mid against a puppet master last night and to be honest I was completely lost.
I've read the guides and even tried him in a practice match, but his abilities still don't make a lot of sense to me outside of a match environment.

If you reach the 400 range edge of the hold, it will yank you back to the middle.

Puppet Show: "If target comes within a 250 / 300 / 350 / 400 radius of any unit while Crazy Puppet is active, it will be forced to attack that target until Crazy Puppet wears off."
Forces you to attack nearby units, similar to Legionnaire's Taunt, which forces you to attack Legionnaire.
note, priority is given to allied units; in other words, given a choice between multiple units to attack, the victim will always attack an allied unit if possible.

Voodoo Puppet
"Any damage taken by the Puppet is transferred in full to the target as Magic damage, regardless of the Puppet's remaining health.

The Puppet has a maximum health of 450 / 700 / 950 and takes 160 / 180 / 210% damage.

Lasts until target gets more than 1500 units away from spawned Puppet, or until Puppet is killed."

in other words, it's essentially a 450/700/950 magic damage nuke that requires you to damage the puppet instead of the hero. I think if a victim of Show is forced to non-lethally attack the puppet, it can be worth more than 950 damage, but in most situations it's "just" 450/700/950 damage with a long range, similar to Pyromancer's ultimate, but not immediate.

Nizzem
04-24-2010, 01:00 AM
Is there a formula to calculate the spawn times for heroes? Does it increase with the game duration or only with levels? Does anyone know the formula or the re-spawn length for a lvl 25 hero?

luckyclam
04-24-2010, 01:57 AM
I watched a video on youtube where the towers had circles around them, how can I put this in my game?

Nizzem
04-24-2010, 12:04 PM
I watched a video on youtube where the towers had circles around them, how can I put this in my game?
It's the Tower Range Indicator Mod. Located here:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=77500

kaabrejner
04-25-2010, 06:12 AM
i have 10.13% leaves and cant join leaver games. can i somehow get less by play alot of games or something ? like if i played 100 games now - then i leaved 10 = 10% but if i played 1000 games it would be 1% - would that mean i could join leaver protected games ? or is it permanent - sorry for my bad english :p

Neru
04-25-2010, 07:43 AM
i have 10.13% leaves and cant join leaver games. can i somehow get less by play alot of games or something ? like if i played 100 games now - then i leaved 10 = 10% but if i played 1000 games it would be 1% - would that mean i could join leaver protected games ? or is it permanent - sorry for my bad english :p

You can get rid of it by playing games without the "No Leavers" option so the % goes down.

oberbreit
04-25-2010, 02:03 PM
what are anti-zephyr heroes? couldnt find the answer
i see zephyr soooo often and sometimes he solos 3+ heroes in every level (early mid lategame)
so what is a good counter to zephy and why?

Neru
04-25-2010, 02:44 PM
what are anti-zephyr heroes? couldnt find the answer
i see zephyr soooo often and sometimes he solos 3+ heroes in every level (early mid lategame)
so what is a good counter to zephy and why?

Any hero that can stay away from his close combat (his damage comes from melee attacks, cyclones and ultimate) so ranged with snares/stuns or blinkers. Tablet of Command and Shaman's Headdress/Barrier Idol are items that help counter him as well. Tablet allows you to escape his ultimate slow instantly and leap out of his Cyclone damage.

Lots of burst damage takes him down before he can heal with cyclones as well.

Cpun
04-25-2010, 11:01 PM
how do i know what starting items to buy for any hero and which skills to get first?

LawBinded
04-26-2010, 01:54 AM
how do i know what starting items to buy for any hero and which skills to get first?

you generally get consumbable healing items
and minor totems

almost always max out nukes/stuns first
put at least 1 level into escape/disable skills

CnMne
04-26-2010, 02:15 AM
Is there a hotkey to change the attack modifiers? I haven't pre purchased hon

AcMilan911
04-26-2010, 03:30 AM
can u tell me the best hero combos in the game i know of mag,pyro...heard about ss ,pesti dont know why

oberbreit
04-26-2010, 08:22 AM
Any hero that can stay away from his close combat (his damage comes from melee attacks, cyclones and ultimate) so ranged with snares/stuns or blinkers. Tablet of Command and Shaman's Headdress/Barrier Idol are items that help counter him as well. Tablet allows you to escape his ultimate slow instantly and leap out of his Cyclone damage.

Lots of burst damage takes him down before he can heal with cyclones as well.

thank you

a_black_man9
04-26-2010, 09:45 AM
bird + eye, will it see scout wards in hard places or bugged terrains?

disregard if bird can't pick up eye anymore, idk bout updates

chloe_13
04-26-2010, 09:49 AM
will elder parasite stack with frostburn sny in dota and thunderclaw or elder parasite w/ shieldbreaker and thunderclaw? pls answer tnx

Wzupp
04-26-2010, 12:29 PM
How do i deny a creep?

Cpun
04-26-2010, 12:38 PM
how do i know what core build i should be building for a hero?

MakinYuCry
04-26-2010, 12:54 PM
What's a good carry to play, when you're stuck in the 1500 noob games?

Mr`Imperator
04-26-2010, 02:54 PM
does anyone know of a good hellbringer guide that is somewhat updated around here on the forums?

Neru
04-26-2010, 02:57 PM
Is there a hotkey to change the attack modifiers? I haven't pre purchased hon

Yes. Check the Options > Key bindings, I can't remember the default.


can u tell me the best hero combos in the game i know of mag,pyro...heard about ss ,pesti dont know why

Best combos depend on the players. Double stuns generally work, heavy DPS (like Swiftblades spin) and a long disable (like Electricians grip) are also good combos. Double healers like Accursed/Soulreaper work well to harass and hold a lane. Try things and use your initiative, good combos are obvious. There are no "best combos" either, since they can always be countered.


bird + eye, will it see scout wards in hard places or bugged terrains?

disregard if bird can't pick up eye anymore, idk bout updates

Don't think it can pick up eye, but if you hover the flying courier near wards then you stand near them they will appear. You have to be within 300 range of an eye for them to appear I believe.


will elder parasite stack with frostburn sny in dota and thunderclaw or elder parasite w/ shieldbreaker and thunderclaw? pls answer tnx
Check here (http://hondb.com/?modifiers) for information on attack modifiers.


How do i deny a creep?
Press 'a' then click your allied creep/tower when it is below 50% HP for creeps or 10% for towers.


how do i know what core build i should be building for a hero?
Through experience, reading guides and player advice.


What's a good carry to play, when you're stuck in the 1500 noob games?

If you're "stuck" in 1500 noob games then you're probably a noob yourself. If so, just try playing whatever hero you want, but read guides on them first and practice in Practice mode. If you really are stuck but are a higher player level, like in MatchMaking try semi-carry heroes like Wretched Hag or easy carrys like Swiftblade, Corrupted Disciple or Forsaken Archer.

Neru
04-26-2010, 03:09 PM
does anyone know of a good hellbringer guide that is somewhat updated around here on the forums?

Doesn't look like there are any out there when I searched. Try finding a good Hellbringer player and watching their replays. Try here (http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/search.php) as well, search "Trixi" on the hero "Hellbringer" and download a replay you like the look of.

TriPoison
04-26-2010, 05:51 PM
Just played a nice game, vs slither, tempest, keeper (who had refresher quite quickly) plague and legionnaire. What do you do vs such an amazing ult team? We were behe (me <3t triple kills) madman, nymph, fayde and armadon.

pk_thunder
04-26-2010, 06:21 PM
Just played a nice game, vs slither, tempest, keeper (who had refresher quite quickly) plague and legionnaire. What do you do vs such an amazing ult team? We were behe (me <3t triple kills) madman, nymph, fayde and armadon.
:ShrunkenHead:

`Static
04-26-2010, 07:34 PM
I am looking for a detailed guide on Micro tips. Specifically with regards to Ophelia and Puzzlebox. My concerns are not when to get them or how to play them. My concerns are specifically which buttons do you assign for X item/creep/etc.

I know which heroes are good with puzzlebox. I dont need tips on when to use it, which heroes its good on, which its good against. I am specifically speaking about the logistics of hotkeys, where to look on your screen, mods, how to assign etc so that I can physically control the micro aspects easier faster and more efficiently.

CnMne
04-26-2010, 08:18 PM
Just played a nice game, vs slither, tempest, keeper (who had refresher quite quickly) plague and legionnaire. What do you do vs such an amazing ult team? We were behe (me <3t triple kills) madman, nymph, fayde and armadon.

:vind: :BarbedArmor: :ShrunkenHead:

Wind_09
04-26-2010, 08:57 PM
Somehow i dont understand SwiftBlade's Counter Attack skill,is it similar to Legionaire's Whirling Blade ? Can anyone explain what it does,how it work ?

Mateui
04-26-2010, 10:34 PM
This is a pretty dumb question, but I need to ask it. When using Sandwraith's ult, how exactly do you choose which illusion to teleport to? Is it a matter of first hitting R, selecting one of the illusions manually and then hitting R again to teleport to that specific illusion? Or can you select one via the minimap?

blitz24
04-27-2010, 12:56 AM
when will be the replay downloading available?:confused:

blitz24
04-27-2010, 01:00 AM
This is a pretty dumb question, but I need to ask it. When using Sandwraith's ult, how exactly do you choose which illusion to teleport to? Is it a matter of first hitting R, selecting one of the illusions manually and then hitting R again to teleport to that specific illusion? Or can you select one via the minimap?

you can select via the minimap AFAIK

Pink_Rabbit
04-27-2010, 01:35 AM
1. why some people have rat icons and the other have blacksmith? i have lover stats(psr and kd ratio) and less games than my friend, but having bs icon while he has a rat )
2. are you planning to add ability to watch games online? for example i want to see the game already started with my mate in it
3. PLEASE MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO SWITCH, It is really annoying when two of you allies leave and you play 5v3 and loosing even you have never died yet..
4. what is "taunt"? the in game feature for prepaid accounts

Uniquely
04-27-2010, 01:43 AM
1. why some people have rat icons and the other have blacksmith? i have lover stats(psr and kd ratio) and less games than my friend, but having bs icon while he has a rat )
2. are you planning to add ability to watch games online? for example i want to see the game already started with my mate in it
3. PLEASE MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO SWITCH, It is really annoying when two of you allies leave and you play 5v3 and loosing even you have never died yet..

1. random
2. interesting... but i dont think this will be added
3. no

Pink_Rabbit
04-27-2010, 01:55 AM
3. but why?
4. what is "taunt"? the in game feature for prepaid accounts
5. guys can u also do ballance not just according to psr but to look at kd ratio and total games played too?
6. where i can suggest my thoughts about online view, switch option and ballance?

Uniquely
04-27-2010, 01:58 AM
if 2 ppl leave, you should remake, if they dont remake, then get every1 to leave... thats why theres a remake feature...

and to your 4. the feature is being able to use taunt on an enemy player, if you kill them why they have taunt u get a smackdown... and if they kill you, it will say humiliation.

EspritFort
04-27-2010, 11:18 AM
3. but why?
4. what is "taunt"? the in game feature for prepaid accounts
5. guys can u also do ballance not just according to psr but to look at kd ratio and total games played too?
6. where i can suggest my thoughts about online view, switch option and ballance?

3. This would render the pre-game PSR-calculation moot.
4. You have the in-game ability to taunt an enemy hero. This will result in your hero speaking a special line during a short casting time and being visible to your opponent's team. If you kill the taunted hero within 30 seconds it will result in a "Smackdown!"-sound, if you get killed by him however, "Humiliation!" is played, as mentioned above.
5. See 6.
6. The Suggestion (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11) section.

Mester7
04-27-2010, 01:18 PM
I wonder zephyrs ulti: if u use zephyrs ulti on one person is it then a waste of ulti? at lvl 15+

pk_thunder
04-27-2010, 07:54 PM
I wonder zephyrs ulti: if u use zephyrs ulti on one person is it then a waste of ulti? at lvl 15+
yes unless if it's the other team's carry

arcainic
04-27-2010, 11:44 PM
how much dps does focused defiler's ult do at lvl 1,2,3?

TriPoison
04-28-2010, 04:01 PM
WB pub build? ive been doing: RotT + 2 mana pots-> abyssul skull if no one is getting it + steam boots. Then I head off to solo kong at level eight with 2 health and some mana pots again if i didnt get skull. Then I get puzzle box and then shield breaker. Is that an okay order? ooh yeah i max the passive and hellhounds first.

Neru
04-28-2010, 05:51 PM
WB pub build? ive been doing: RotT + 2 mana pots-> abyssul skull if no one is getting it + steam boots. Then I head off to solo kong at level eight with 2 health and some mana pots again if i didnt get skull. Then I get puzzle box and then shield breaker. Is that an okay order? ooh yeah i max the passive and hellhounds first.

Yeah thats fine. You can Kongor at level 7 if you're good at micro, but if 8 works go for it.

Jerada
04-29-2010, 04:23 AM
A question about magebane and sand wraith. And also about some orb changes.

Runed Axe on Magebane is good right? and after it I get steamboots + abyssal skull + brutalizer. or should i skip b fury and just go to my core? or maybe SOB is still better on him since mana combustion still stacks with life steal?

Is runed axe also fine with sand wraith? or should I go rush a mock of brilliance instead? or should I go steamboots + nullfire + mock or geo + heart?

I've heard that frostburn and lifesteal don't stack anymore. Is this true? because after I've heard of it I started using abyssal skull instead of symbol of rage on my carry games.

PS: Madman also goes runed axe right? whats great on him?

KingChriss
04-29-2010, 01:59 PM
When does the open beta ends and what is gonna happen after that

Meowshi
04-30-2010, 12:16 AM
When does the open beta ends and what is gonna happen after that

Two weeks, all non-prepaid accounts get deleted.

kaabrejner
04-30-2010, 02:49 AM
Hi ive been wondering whats the breakpoint for non leaver/leaver ex. 5%+ = leaver or 8%+ = leaver or so ? where is the breakpoint :p?

EspritFort
04-30-2010, 06:16 AM
Hi ive been wondering whats the breakpoint for non leaver/leaver ex. 5%+ = leaver or 8%+ = leaver or so ? where is the breakpoint :p?

You will not be able to join no-leaver games or MM with 5% leaves or more.

blitz24
04-30-2010, 08:39 AM
hey..lets say its closed beta already, and free accounts were deleted:
1.) does that means our games(replays) will be deleted as well? - well this is pretty dumb but i really appreciate any response.
2.) will i be able to still watch replays? (the ones that i have downloaded before closed beta?).
3.) can i still download replays? (well,in game-i know i cant..but on this website..will i be able?)

thanks

DaniiZ
04-30-2010, 09:16 AM
Is it someone here that can explaing for me what "camera scrolling" is? And how its useful?...

Neru
04-30-2010, 03:36 PM
hey..lets say its closed beta already, and free accounts were deleted:
1.) does that means our games(replays) will be deleted as well? - well this is pretty dumb but i really appreciate any response.
2.) will i be able to still watch replays? (the ones that i have downloaded before closed beta?).
3.) can i still download replays? (well,in game-i know i cant..but on this website..will i be able?)

thanks

Firstly, its been closed BETA. It goes Closed > Open > Retail.
All your questions are answered here (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=112502).


Is it someone here that can explaing for me what "camera scrolling" is? And how its useful?...

I assume you mean when you move your camera around the map. It's useful because it allows you to see more of the map than around your hero. You can move the map with arrow keys or the mouse at the edge of the screen.

Ohyeah`
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
Why does Valkyrie have a slight night-vision bonus?

pk_thunder
04-30-2010, 10:46 PM
Why does Valkyrie have a slight night-vision bonus?
balance

LightRain
04-30-2010, 11:41 PM
^ it's to encourage ganking with her

pk_thunder
04-30-2010, 11:50 PM
^ it's to encourage ganking with her
probably to help land arrows

Sperm`X
05-01-2010, 06:02 AM
Question, why does everything freeze for a sec, then everything is OK and then it happens a few mins/secs later.. it's really annoying.

pk_thunder
05-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Question, why does everything freeze for a sec, then everything is OK and then it happens a few mins/secs later.. it's really annoying.
server lagg

I've been having tons of lagg lately

also it seems to freeze right when a wave of creep spawns, that might be just ur comp

apocaro
05-02-2010, 07:28 AM
maybe someone else asked this already but it's hard to find with 86 pages and counting, so here I go (again?) :

Can some one pls point me to a list of tips about each of the hero roles? Such tips may be what items to buy, how to play each stage of the game, how do you know if u perform your role well, what happens if you don't and so on ... should be general rather than hero specific.

I'm trying to teach a bunch of mates to stop farming like mad men regardless of what they pick and that they are actually damaging the entire team by doing that. Such a list would help a great deal. This might actually help the entire community considering some of the players come from wow, and diablo and such and have a very twisted idea about these roles.

_5p1t_
05-02-2010, 07:41 AM
how do i upgreade riftshards?

EspritFort
05-02-2010, 08:17 AM
maybe someone else asked this already but it's hard to find with 86 pages and counting, so here I go (again?) :

Can some one pls point me to a list of tips about each of the hero roles? Such tips may be what items to buy, how to play each stage of the game, how do you know if u perform your role well, what happens if you don't and so on ... should be general rather than hero specific.

I'm trying to teach a bunch of mates to stop farming like mad men regardless of what they pick and that they are actually damaging the entire team by doing that. Such a list would help a great deal. This might actually help the entire community considering some of the players come from wow, and diablo and such and have a very twisted idea about these roles.

I suppose you're looking for something like this (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=68457). If you want to contribute to a discussion, pick a thread in the main Strategy section. If you're looking for specific information it's usually better to browse the (Premium) Guides or Strategy Articles subsections :)



how do i upgreade riftshards?

Buy the recipe again (up to 3 times).

All upgradable items work that way.

apocaro
05-02-2010, 10:42 AM
that (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=68457) is brilliant, thank you moderator!

Franko79
05-02-2010, 11:46 AM
I read somewhere that it is possible to make combo's when using ctrl key.
The only problem is i can't find where i read that.
For example, magmus, a stun followed by his ulti. It should be possible to que up the ulti so it's cast when the stun is cast.

Can someone explain to me how it's done?

pk_thunder
05-02-2010, 12:29 PM
I read somewhere that it is possible to make combo's when using ctrl key.
The only problem is i can't find where i read that.
For example, magmus, a stun followed by his ulti. It should be possible to que up the ulti so it's cast when the stun is cast.

Can someone explain to me how it's done?
it's shift

say u want to use ur 2nd skill right after ur 1st skill and then ur ult

u press Q -> hold shift + W -> hold shift + R

Franko79
05-02-2010, 04:03 PM
it's shift

say u want to use ur 2nd skill right after ur 1st skill and then ur ult

u press Q -> hold shift + W -> hold shift + R

Tried it in a practice game but unfortunately it doesn't work...

Is it possible i have to set shift somewhere in my controls for this to work?

pk_thunder
05-02-2010, 04:32 PM
Tried it in a practice game but unfortunately it doesn't work...

Is it possible i have to set shift somewhere in my controls for this to work?
did u mess around with the controls already?

it should be ur shift modifier.

it might just also be something ur doing wrong, buy a flying courier and move ur hero farm from where the courier is, then press Q -> E -> hold shift while pressing R

it should move to u with max speed then go back to well

EvvaN
05-03-2010, 09:08 AM
How do i sell items without being at the shop or outpost?

Beaston61
05-03-2010, 11:41 AM
Do trees ever respawn (Especially when juking)???

Thank you?

Neru
05-03-2010, 12:12 PM
How do i sell items without being at the shop or outpost?

CTRL + Shift + Right click item (doesn't work when dead)


Do trees ever respawn (Especially when juking)???

Thank you?

Trees respawn every 5 minutes, so 00:00, 05:00, 10:00.
They spawn regardless of if a unit is where the tree was, the tree will push you out the way and if you're stuck you should be able to use the anti-stuck system to slowly get out.

TriPoison
05-04-2010, 02:05 PM
Why do people buy charged hammer on engi? I always hear people saying never to get it because it's **** and procs (what does that mean?) are unreliable and its expensive and gives no stats. So why core on engi?

Meowshi
05-04-2010, 04:18 PM
Why do people buy charged hammer on engi? I always hear people saying never to get it because it's **** and procs (what does that mean?) are unreliable and its expensive and gives no stats. So why core on engi?

Because his turret attacks very quickly, so charged hammer on him + charged hammer on turret = kill very quickly

proc = programmed random occurance. google it.

EatingBurger
05-05-2010, 10:27 AM
I was wondering what people think of the viability of an Accursed building Parasite + stun-item. The 3-5 secs of effective invuln that Accursed gets (with a bit of health regen, if all goes well) seems to be perfect for Parasite, and with his orb, he can keep enemies fairly well stunned. Also, considering the effectiveness of his abilities really drop off lategame, I feel that this keeps up his presence in a teamfight, rather than just having everyone ignore him till last.

05-05-2010, 11:21 AM
Is building Soul Reaper as a tank a good idea? I was thinking of rushing sacrificial stone and behemoth's heart after plated greaves. Or is Frostfield plate good/better for him?

Neru
05-05-2010, 02:16 PM
I was wondering what people think of the viability of an Accursed building Parasite + stun-item. The 3-5 secs of effective invuln that Accursed gets (with a bit of health regen, if all goes well) seems to be perfect for Parasite, and with his orb, he can keep enemies fairly well stunned. Also, considering the effectiveness of his abilities really drop off lategame, I feel that this keeps up his presence in a teamfight, rather than just having everyone ignore him till last.

No. Your job is to heal with Cauterise, shield and generally keep your team alive whenever possible. You want things like Nomes/Astrolabe that increase your healing capacity, thats your team presence.


Is building Soul Reaper as a tank a good idea? I was thinking of rushing sacrificial stone and behemoth's heart after plated greaves. Or is Frostfield plate good/better for him?

Anything that keeps you alive as long as possible is good. Nomes/Frostfield/Sacraficial stone all work well, definitely Plated greaves. Every second you're alive 1% of your enemys Total HP is drained, and you can heal on every CD for extra damage.

roemer
05-06-2010, 01:07 AM
I have been playing alot of slither lately because he is so imba. His laning is sick with any one else who has a slow/stun/hold. I have been going with a very gank heavy attitude and it has worked well. My problem is what i should get gear wise. my starting build is courier, pretender's crown, minor totem, health pot, and runes. I then go for a quick bottle boots and finish a soulscream ring. My problem is that after finishing ghost marchers and nome's, which btw seems to me is a completely core item on slither. i have no clue what to go for. I have tried assassin's shroud but generally if i die its because i got bursted down or died trying to squeeze that little bit of dps out. What should i go for after completeling soulscream ring, ghost marchers, and nome's. I have looked around there are no up to date slither guides.

Excil
05-06-2010, 03:17 AM
slither aint no carry.
get power supply instead of bottle.
SotM and PK should be added after core (ghost marchers, soulscream ring, wards).
Nomes should be considered optional (mana reasons, is there any else supporter?).

Meowshi
05-06-2010, 09:13 AM
When I play Slither, I play him like a survivalist. He's pretty squishy. (I sport the 1/4/4 build instead of the 1/1/4 build because of toxicity's harassing potential in early game)

Plated Greaves (Deliciously OP), Bottle (For the ganks), then support items (Tablet, Nomes, Astrolabe, Barrier Idol, etc.)

Power supply is a given, and should be on ~every single hero in the game. No need to include that.

SotM and PK are too expensive. PK is not viable because slither isn't a very good initiator- his ultimate does absolutely no stuns or anything, so you will blink in and eat a fat one.

LightRain
05-06-2010, 06:09 PM
on slither, puzzlebox most games

noodle0117
05-06-2010, 08:23 PM
why are all the names grey now?

Meowshi
05-06-2010, 08:37 PM
why are all the names grey now?
That means your account will be deleted as soon as retail hits. :krak:

FireCross23
05-07-2010, 02:21 AM
Hello im new to forums and stuff and i was just wondering how do you use pictures in sigs?

Excil
05-07-2010, 03:22 AM
When I play Slither, I play him like a survivalist. He's pretty squishy. (I sport the 1/4/4 build instead of the 1/1/4 build because of toxicity's harassing potential in early game)

Plated Greaves (Deliciously OP), Bottle (For the ganks), then support items (Tablet, Nomes, Astrolabe, Barrier Idol, etc.)

Power supply is a given, and should be on ~every single hero in the game. No need to include that.

SotM and PK are too expensive. PK is not viable because slither isn't a very good initiator- his ultimate does absolutely no stuns or anything, so you will blink in and eat a fat one.

imo pk helps alot to get ult of early in the teamfight, which actually is what u have to do midgame.

EspritFort
05-07-2010, 03:28 AM
Hello im new to forums and stuff and i was just wondering how do you use pictures in sigs?

The same way you do it in your posts, with the--tag.

TriPoison
05-07-2010, 01:11 PM
As ophelia in 1550> games should i level nuke or slow after command?

and does the life steal from elder stack with preds in built life steal?

Meowshi
05-07-2010, 01:41 PM
As ophelia in 1550> games should i level nuke or slow after command?

and does the life steal from elder stack with preds in built life steal?

Slow. It lets your minions catch up, and they can CC the target even more.

The two stack, but Elder Parasite is a horrible item on Predator. He simply does not have enough armor to support it (Strength carries = Low agi growth), and intentionally killing your survivability as a carry is not the answer.

To_The_Death
05-07-2010, 03:55 PM
If I dont pay for the full game, can I continue playing the beta version of Hon?

Meowshi
05-07-2010, 03:56 PM
If I dont pay for the full game, can I continue playing the beta version of Hon?

Nope

To_The_Death
05-07-2010, 04:20 PM
How can I pay for the game without credit card?

Meowshi
05-07-2010, 04:25 PM
How can I pay for the game without credit card?

Buy a prepaid card from any local store, put $30 on it, and use that.

Additionally, get a paypal account and ask your parents to throw $30 on it or something.

To_The_Death
05-07-2010, 04:44 PM
The problem is i am not from America! If I find a way to buy this prepaid card how to use it?

Meowshi
05-07-2010, 04:54 PM
The problem is i am not from America! If I find a way to buy this prepaid card how to use it?

Simply put in the card details on the purchase screen

FuriousPork
05-07-2010, 06:00 PM
Best character to be an annoying tank?

Best carries? I have played mq as a hard carry and was wondering if there was anything better.

Meowshi
05-07-2010, 06:04 PM
Best character to be an annoying tank?

Best carries? I have played mq as a hard carry and was wondering if there was anything better.

1. Soul Reaper, Defiler
2. Zephyr, Engineer

pk_thunder
05-07-2010, 06:08 PM
1. Soul Reaper, Defiler
2. Zephyr, Engineer
zeph is not really a carry
he one of those hero's than can carry just because he has items

engi is more support dps imho

hardest carries (some of them can be build to support, like pesti):
:chro::pupp::dark::scou::pest::swif:

FuriousPork
05-07-2010, 06:08 PM
1. Soul Reaper, Defiler
2. Zephyr, Engineer

Thanks man, any advice on playing MQ?
If wanted I'll post some of my gameplay so you can tell me what to do.

TriPoison
05-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Do you have to have a credit card to pay for the game or can you use a debit card?

pk_thunder
05-07-2010, 06:12 PM
Thanks man, any advice on playing MQ?
If wanted I'll post some of my gameplay so you can tell me what to do.
read my post plz?

anyways if u want to do that go make ur own thread in the training grounds section of the forums

for mq u should get:
steamboots (gmarchers, not my fav, but viable) -> whispering helm -> shrunken head -> wingbow

that's rly all u need
(harkons is a nice but situational item to get on mq, if u have high magic dmg or a hero like puppet then get it, it affects all bounces)

DarkAnhell
05-08-2010, 12:01 AM
Hello..

well my question is the following...
I purchased my account like 2 days ago and i dont notice any difference from before..I thought when u purchase the account, your nickname goes yellow...Some others in the forum says "supporter" in their nicknames.

The only thing i notice is that the purchase symbol dissapear, that's all.

If someone can tell me another difference, please let me know..
thank you very much

pk_thunder
05-08-2010, 01:19 AM
Hello..

well my question is the following...
I purchased my account like 2 days ago and i dont notice any difference from before..I thought when u purchase the account, your nickname goes yellow...Some others in the forum says "supporter" in their nicknames.

The only thing i notice is that the purchase symbol dissapear, that's all.

If someone can tell me another difference, please let me know..
thank you very much
ppl need to read

the golden shield + taunt offer ended with closed beta

To_The_Death
05-08-2010, 01:57 AM
If I dont prepurchase my account it will be deleted, but if I purchase the game after the reatail release, can I make another account and play the full game with him? (because some people dont have enough time to prepurchase)

procupine
05-08-2010, 03:25 AM
How does attack speed work?

How much does 100 attack speed (for example) increase your attacks per second by?

EspritFort
05-08-2010, 03:55 AM
If I dont prepurchase my account it will be deleted, but if I purchase the game after the reatail release, can I make another account and play the full game with him? (because some people dont have enough time to prepurchase)

Of course :)

TriPoison
05-08-2010, 04:04 AM
Do you have to have a credit card to pay for the game or can you use a debit card?

Answer please.

Neru
05-08-2010, 06:57 AM
Pretty sure you can use a debit card, you can even use those "cash card" things you get from shops (Walmart in American apparently).