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ziKzakk
11-30-2009, 05:35 PM
Does HoN has a life?
Do you have a Life to ask sth shitty like this?
LightRain
11-30-2009, 07:38 PM
yeah i know, but i mean equip :/
You can't, is what I'm trying to say. What items, exactly, did you see on him?
Sumo_Florist
12-01-2009, 02:06 AM
Does Engy Turret benefit at all from agi? I saw an Engy get Wingbow as his first big-ticket item, and I wasn't sure if the turret got damage (or even attack speed) from agi. Any clarification would be great!
Skyswimsky
12-01-2009, 01:32 PM
You can't, is what I'm trying to say. What items, exactly, did you see on him?
im not exactly rememberin now, and in guides like the Premium Guide from Sand Wraith theres a section for Lifesteals:
"Abyssal skull and other life steal - We dont want to waste 2k gold on this. We are buisy farming other items. However as a last slot item a Symbol of Rage can be used, allthough not mentioned. If you really want life steal, force a supporter like Demented Shaman or Ohpelia to get this for you."
So, that text says you force another Player 2 buy that items for you and give it to you...
and yesterday i playd with 2 friends and one borrowed me his Lifetube but then it wasnt "borrowed" and was combined with my manatube O_o(but he got another bug before, he had all items for Black Legio Helm in the inventory but it doed nothing)
LightRain
12-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Oh. Abyssal Skull is an aura, so as long as you're standing near the supporter holding it, you'll gain additional lifesteal. (It's the only lifesteal that stacks.) Ophelia often gets Abyssal, despite not being melee, because it grants benefits to all her creeps, and any ally melee heroes.
No idea about that manatube thing, I've never seen that happen. If it was the latest patch, report it as a bug :P
DeadlyKnife
12-02-2009, 02:56 AM
When my friend i and want to train how come we can't fight each others rm?
When my friend i and want to train how come we can't fight each others rm?
not sure what you mean by this
i'm guessing you mean why can't you and your friend practice mode together. In that case you actually can, host a 1v1 and check "No Stats" so that no stats are recorded and it's essentially a practice mode
if that's not what you meant then you'll have to rephrase
Skyswimsky
12-02-2009, 07:01 PM
Sowwy that i post that here but i saw no topic for (possible?) hackers, and the thread says "ask a question get an answer"
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=14356294
Look at Legion, the spent/earned, even with the 1 Gold per sek and the ~3k startgold it isnt possible 2 get so high, idk exactly whats all calculated in the spent/earned tab, but earned=for neutral/creepkill and herokill?
LightRain
12-02-2009, 07:20 PM
Gold Spent/Earned isn't accurate in the stats screen. It hasn't been accurate for a long time, since before when the stats screen popped up in-game.
laserblade
12-04-2009, 05:24 PM
How on earth does Mock of Brilliance give Evasion properties?
AmazingEric
12-05-2009, 02:24 AM
The enemies are essenially blinded by your greatness at farming
laserblade
12-05-2009, 08:13 PM
The enemies are essenially blinded by your greatness at farming
Lol, so the description is just there as an inside joke?
Ironically I played against a Nighthound with MoB and the aura gave away his presence so I threw my dust and my team screwed him over. :]
Another question: What works with Geometer's Bane images? I tested Charged Hammer and doesn't proc. So what item procs? Riftshards? Savage Mace? Runed Axe? Lifesteal?
LionKingMax
12-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Does Barbed Armor reflect the damage YOU wouldave suffered, based on your armor, or will it reflect the attacker damage to him, dealing damage based on his armor?
If No1, does Elder Parasite augment the damage by 30%?
If yes, would Pestilence synergise well with both the 30% and his 10% when in flight?
EGNesTea420
12-06-2009, 01:10 AM
How important is APM really?
The reason I ask is that it always feels like I'm much lower APM than everyone around me. I generally get around 60 APM a match (ignore my stats, I just started HoN a month ago so I have a lot of "newbie" games counted in them) which compared to what others get is pretty minuscule.
However it's not like I'm doing terrible. I have some games now and then where I don't do great, yeah, but most of the time I'm right up there at the top for kills, assists, creep kills, ect. Just wondering what APM really tells about you.
LightRain
12-06-2009, 02:01 AM
APM greater than like, 50 doesn't say much. APM that is low, around 30 or lower, means either you're intentionally saving clicks, or you aren't active enough. Don't worry about grinding your APM up unless you want to master Ophelia + 7 Minotaur build.
EGNesTea420
12-06-2009, 02:12 AM
APM greater than like, 50 doesn't say much. APM that is low, around 30 or lower, means either you're intentionally saving clicks, or you aren't active enough. Don't worry about grinding your APM up unless you want to master Ophelia + 7 Minotaur build.
Alright, thanks.
Only reason I had to ask is someone was touting that a lot of people are averaging like 100-130 APM or so. I assume that a lot of that is just spam clicking while you're laning, which I always find sort of annoying to do unless you're up against someone like valk or pyro that you want to try and constantly juke.
LightRain
12-06-2009, 02:50 AM
Juking in general is good practice. Walking around creep waves saves time (so many times I've seen a guy who must have just clicked on fountain on minimap, he walks into a creep wave and gets caught and killed), dancing around the enemy's attack range can help you tell when he's going in to stun or not. Last hitting while harassing requires a lot of positioning, not standing in aoes in teamfights is directly correlated with not losing the game, etc.
I and many other players do average 100 apm, but part of it is just the habit of always staying active, and part of it is that as you learn more things to do, they each add some more actions (Courier, scouting runes, babysitting, etc.). As you learn them, your APM might or might not go up, just according to your style. Some good players run 60-80, some run 200.
If we really wanted to figure out whether people were spamming clicks in lane or not, we'd take the idea of Effective APM from Starcraft replay programs and use it here, but it doesn't actually matter that much in this game.
spiffypuma
12-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Can someone please help me create my own hero? I saw a thread about how to go about doing so but Im lost and I need someone to get me started... I am a quick learner, just need someone to explain please!
LightRain
12-07-2009, 12:37 AM
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=23946
How to make a hero, by [S2]Idejder
Dataslycer
12-07-2009, 05:12 AM
I know backdooring is legal in pub games and some clan/scrim but what about the tournaments for both DotA and HoN? What portion bans and allows it?
Also, is it considered backdoor if you destroyed the barracks in one lane and move to the other tower/barracks of another lane?
N3uRosiS
12-08-2009, 05:35 PM
If I have a mock, and an abyssal skull, does the lifesteal work with the damage aura?
ElementUser
12-08-2009, 05:39 PM
If I have a mock, and an abyssal skull, does the lifesteal work with the damage aura?
No, only direct/actual attacks work
Pride82
12-09-2009, 03:58 AM
What the f00k is wrong with the pathfinding?
...often while eating trees that seem to be next to you, your hero starts roaming circles, trying to go behind the area or something and reach the tree that way.
Pride82
12-09-2009, 04:03 AM
i have problem with my invite... i used 3 invite but only 1 reached the target...
2 invite still not coming to mail... mail of my friend Russia, maybe with this problem?
In soviet russia you...
Pride82
12-09-2009, 04:09 AM
Which heroes benefit most from codex?
My guess would be that there are two categories of heroes?
1) Gankers for burst damage (lovely when combined with portal key) - pyro, pebbles
2) High mana pool -heroes with lack of nukes. Succubus and vindicator for example?
LightRain
12-09-2009, 04:31 AM
What the f00k is wrong with the pathfinding?
...often while eating trees that seem to be next to you, your hero starts roaming circles, trying to go behind the area or something and reach the tree that way.
This happens to me too, no idea why.
Puchi
12-09-2009, 04:39 AM
wrongpost lolz
powerofsk
12-09-2009, 07:43 AM
Which heroes benefit most from codex?
My guess would be that there are two categories of heroes?
1) Gankers for burst damage (lovely when combined with portal key) - pyro, pebbles
2) High mana pool -heroes with lack of nukes. Succubus and vindicator for example?
Pebbles doesn't have enough mana to sustain codex, but its just gankers/chasers who need a nuke or if your facing a team of squishies
sidsavierre
12-09-2009, 09:11 AM
how to farm with behemoth?
mk_ver
12-09-2009, 10:10 AM
what's the difference between exclusive and attack modifiers?
Skyswimsky
12-09-2009, 12:00 PM
how can i counter an magmus Portalkey+Ultima in Single Draft(so, i need equi and not Sand Wraith skill)?
LightRain
12-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Wards
Pharaoh (scout with rocket)
Wards
Barrier Idol
Thunderbringer (ult when initiating)
Don't stay in a radius of each other; if you have to move up a ramp or whatever and be close to each other, don't do it blind, use any of the above methods to know where your opponent is.
sidsavierre
12-10-2009, 06:47 AM
how not to have a 6 lost in a row?
Pride82
12-10-2009, 08:38 AM
Pebbles doesn't have enough mana to sustain codex, but its just gankers/chasers who need a nuke or if your facing a team of squishies
I can?t agree on that. You start with mana battery and portal key and get codex only after that. I saw a pebbles dominating the game like that (1700+ PSR game)
climz
12-10-2009, 11:08 AM
hi i am a newbie in HoN and i got some questions:
what is PSR? beside of winning a game what other things effect our PSR?
can we stack frost attack with life steal? or mana burn with frost attack for range heroes?
Does anyone know how fast attackspeed you need to have with swiftblade in order to be able to do normal attacks when you use his ulti? What items do you need to get to reach that attack speed?
SolidStroke
12-10-2009, 02:16 PM
hi i am a newbie in HoN and i got some questions:
what is PSR? beside of winning a game what other things effect our PSR?
can we stack frost attack with life steal? or mana burn with frost attack for range heroes?
PSR is based on a formula. When you win you get rating. When you lose, you lose rating. If you win against lower-rated players, you win less than if you play higher-rated players. That is the only thing that affects PSR.
Yes, all those attacks you mentioned stack.
Catarsond
12-11-2009, 07:58 PM
What items can be used to take control of a creep?
SolidStroke
12-11-2009, 10:24 PM
What items can be used to take control of a creep?
Whispering Helm (it's purple, in the Initiation section)
Zupay
12-12-2009, 08:07 AM
normally theres a max zoom range but in some games i scroll so far out that i gain more sight over the map. it only works sometimes and happens occasionally can sb tell me how to do that properly?
Godzu
12-13-2009, 07:10 AM
normally theres a max zoom range but in some games i scroll so far out that i gain more sight over the map. it only works sometimes and happens occasionally can sb tell me how to do that properly?
Are you sure the game isnt just changing from night to day?
when is the launch date of HON?
illusioNP
12-13-2009, 10:53 PM
Are you sure the game isnt just changing from night to day?
how do you know when its day or night
VyyyE
12-14-2009, 12:38 AM
when is the launch date of HON?
The game will be in open beta soon, presumably it'll go retail shortly after. S2 haven't released any exact date yet.
Noize
12-14-2009, 11:30 AM
Can someone explain me all the different types of damage ?
As far as I know there are 3 different type's:
Base dmg
Magic dmg
pure dmg
If someone would be so kind to explain me what every type of dmg is that would be much appreciated !
For example someone told me that Jereziahs heal is pure dmg. Does this mean that it doesnt count as magic dmg? So a headress wouldnt reduce the dmg taken? And a shrunken head wouldnt prevend it from causing dmg?
ooVsaviour
12-14-2009, 10:52 PM
Well, I'm not sure about HoN but I can tell you what the system is in Dota. (disclaimer: might not be the same in HoN and yes I know the technical names, god have mercy I played this game far too long)
Pure Damage (magic spell hero attack)- cannot be reduced or increased by anything, does amount stated (example: succubus's lifestealing spell)
Magic Damage (magic spell magic attack)- reduced by magic resistance (default is 25%)
Physical Damage (physical spell, hero attack)- reduced by blocking (ex: helm of black legion) and then reduced or amplified by armor rating.
Mixed Damage (physical spell, magic attack)- reduced by physical damage modifiers and magic damage modifiers (therefore least dangerous)
Jereziah and Demented's heals are mixed damage. A headress/barrier idol would help. Shrunken head would. Shrunken head blocks most things that are not superior magic. It does not block physical damage (like someone hitting you with regular attack).
Hope that helps!
(wow that was long, maybe I should write a guide)
-saviour
Crashh
12-15-2009, 11:08 AM
What exatcly does EM stand for?
Is it Easy Mode or Easy Money?
and explain the differences between the two. I play a lot more EM just because there seems to be more of them around, but I'm sick of everyone getting so fat so quick
LightRain
12-15-2009, 01:06 PM
saviour, the system is different now. There's just pure, physical, and magic.
Demented's heal is physical damage, Jereziah's heal is pure damage, Nymph's heal is magic damage.
Physical damage is reduced by armour, magic damage by magic armour (by default you have 5.5 magic armour which translates to 25% damage reduction. The default armour depends on the character; dshaman starts with 1.94, while pestilence starts with 4.38, etc.)
There's still a distinction between creep and hero damage, I believe, but there's no mixed damage anymore.
@crashh: EM stands for Easy Mode. Compared to normal mode, you get 2x money, 1.5x experience, and towers do less damage and have less health.
Crashh
12-15-2009, 02:08 PM
2x the money on what? So if it says you get 200 gold you're really getting 400?
and on creep kills does it do the same.. because when i laned on EM and on normal, it seemed the exact same. The money at least
abaht
12-15-2009, 02:28 PM
Where can i see patch info??
dreamex
12-15-2009, 04:53 PM
2x the money on what? So if it says you get 200 gold you're really getting 400?
and on creep kills does it do the same.. because when i laned on EM and on normal, it seemed the exact same. The money at least
2x gold over time, in normal mode you get the equivalent of 8 gold every 7 seconds, in easy mode you get 16 gold every 7 seconds (it's actually interval every 2 seconds I believe but that's the translation).
So in easy mode after 15 minutes you would've idled to a guaranteed 2057g, while in normal mode you would've had a guaranteed 1028g.
Conpatshe
12-15-2009, 05:04 PM
How Do I change my name :o
Feanux
12-15-2009, 09:57 PM
How Do I change my name :o
Currently you cannot change your name unless you make a new beta account.
Once HoN is released they made a statement saying you will be able to change your username once.
Meczor
12-16-2009, 09:05 AM
Whats a good setup for ap? Me and my friends currently play this setup on em, but we are going to change o non em.
Elec
jera
pesti
succubus
puppet
We need some tips for the best setup
thx!
Antiiee
12-16-2009, 10:10 AM
Why can't i find games? It allways says "no games found! why not create one?". I can join games through right-clicking friends and chose "join game". Some times i can also create games, but never find any in the games list to join. please help me, this is driving me insane and i want to join games ASAP!
SolidStroke
12-16-2009, 10:54 AM
Whats a good setup for ap? Me and my friends currently play this setup on em, but we are going to change o non em.
Elec
jera
pesti
succubus
puppet
We need some tips for the best setup
thx!
AP: How do I fit as many incredible characters in a build as I can as there are no bans.
Here are just some suggestions from lil ol' me.
Jeraziah
Valkyrie
Pestilence
Plague Rider
Hellbringer
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Demented Shaman
Madman
Tempest (jungle)
Plague Rider (solo)
Valkyrie (mid)
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Pharaoh
Soulstealer
Madman
Demented Shaman
Witch Slayer
summ1else
12-16-2009, 01:41 PM
Why can't i find games? It allways says "no games found! why not create one?". I can join games through right-clicking friends and chose "join game". Some times i can also create games, but never find any in the games list to join. please help me, this is driving me insane and i want to join games ASAP!
The most likely problem is that your filters have SOMETHING in them preventing you from seeing games that don't qualify for your filters. And when you can't see any games at all, the usual culprit is title. The field should be blank when searching for all games. Try clearing all of the filters.
MAd_MEdic
12-16-2009, 01:48 PM
How do u use the patrol command
so the unit will loop?
DocTomatoe
12-16-2009, 04:50 PM
I guess this questions applies most to ranged heroes.
Why is pushing the lane early hated so much? All anyone in game would tell me was because fighting against their tower gives them an advantage and you arn't last hitting. The way I see it, you can push the lane AND try to get the last hit. I have never understood the whole, stand around and not hit anything and then try to get the last hit. Why not attack stuff and then try to ge the last hit?
The tower is probably going to last hit better than they are so they will kill less of your creeps, you and your creeps are attacking the tower so it goes down very fast (especially in EM). If you are careful, you can kill the tower super early and give your whole team an advantage. How is this not a good thing? Just don't be retarded and take 19 hits from the tower and get stunned. If you are a ranged hero, I really see no reason NOT to push the lanes as much as possible.
fartymcgreg
12-16-2009, 06:30 PM
how do you know when its day or night in game?
MaKaHay
12-16-2009, 09:26 PM
Question
is there a guide for shortcut commands like Heroe is Missing? Rune in 15 seconds?? imean like example if you type /1 then its the shortcut for Heroe is Missing..
thanks.godbless
Question
is there a guide for shortcut commands like Heroe is Missing? Rune in 15 seconds?? imean like example if you type /1 then its the shortcut for Heroe is Missing..
thanks.godbless
not a short cut, it's a mod. there are a bunch, check the mod forums.
Meczor
12-17-2009, 08:56 AM
Is this a good ap setup?
Puppet master
Maliken
Pestilance
Witch slayer or hellbringer (which is best?)
Demented shaman
Thx 4 awnsers
themacs
12-17-2009, 09:08 AM
Is this a good ap setup?
Puppet master
Maliken
Pestilance
Witch slayer or hellbringer (which is best?)
Demented shaman
Thx 4 awnsers
IMO too much int. magebane and legionaire with headress maybe switch witch with an agi carry like swift
LightRain
12-17-2009, 11:24 AM
I guess this questions applies most to ranged heroes.
Why is pushing the lane early hated so much? All anyone in game would tell me was because fighting against their tower gives them an advantage and you arn't last hitting. The way I see it, you can push the lane AND try to get the last hit. I have never understood the whole, stand around and not hit anything and then try to get the last hit. Why not attack stuff and then try to ge the last hit?
The tower is probably going to last hit better than they are so they will kill less of your creeps, you and your creeps are attacking the tower so it goes down very fast (especially in EM). If you are careful, you can kill the tower super early and give your whole team an advantage. How is this not a good thing? Just don't be retarded and take 19 hits from the tower and get stunned. If you are a ranged hero, I really see no reason NOT to push the lanes as much as possible.
1. Being near enemy towers leaves you open to being ambushed, that is ganked. If legion is pushing bottom hellbourne tower, the enemy can come from the frog behind that tower, from the river on the left, from the jungle, and if the people you're laning against have any disables, they move up and either:
a) you stay in exp range and possibly they disable you, their friend comes, you die
b) you back out of exp range to avoid possible ambush, you lose exp and money
You're also further away from your own tower, which is a common place to shelter when the enemy attacks you.
2. It's easier than it looks to last hit creeps under a tower. It's hard to get ALL of them, but the tower only attacks one creep at a time, and you can hit the creep once or twice to get it in the range where the tower hits it, putting it at ~1% life, just before you hit it, boom, money. So you're not really denying your opponents any money. You'd deny them much more money if you focused on, well, denying, and keeping the lane in one spot.
Meanwhile, you can't harass them as effectively, because if attack them, the tower targets you. If you're not playing a lane that cares about this at all (your plan is to just nuke and go, eg pebbles+nymphora, or you have a nice orb like Arachna) this point might not apply.
3. Pushing lanes is obviously safer in EM. I don't have enough experience (read: no experience) with serious push strats so I don't know how early they start damaging the tower. It seems like if you can guarantee you're hurting the opponent's farm AND you're not making yourself a target AND you can get free damage on the tower, there's no real reason not to.
For instance, I've done a Demented Shaman/Legionnaire lane, and we got one guy with a snare->taunt->creeps gather 'round-> healing wave chain, harassed the other guy away, then we pushed the tower, with Legionnaire going ahead and tanking the next wave. But! This is a pub. This would be suicide against a coordinated team, because they could easily teleport in and catch us for a free kill.
chimpaefan19
12-17-2009, 09:51 PM
how do you know when its day or night in game?
does anyone know
Meczor
12-18-2009, 02:44 AM
IMO too much int. magebane and legionaire with headress maybe switch witch with an agi carry like swift Puppet is played like a super carry, still a bad idea? He ends up with doombringer some times :O
LightRain
12-18-2009, 10:18 AM
does anyone know (day/night)
At the top middle of the screen, there's the display that shows each team's total kills. The icon in the middle is the day/night indicator. Also, when your sightlines suddenly shrink, that means it's night.
Antiiee
12-18-2009, 03:16 PM
The most likely problem is that your filters have SOMETHING in them preventing you from seeing games that don't qualify for your filters. And when you can't see any games at all, the usual culprit is title. The field should be blank when searching for all games. Try clearing all of the filters.
Yeah, i can see how that is the most likely problem, it is not however mine. I am quite an experienced user and i am very careful to look for all games. I have forwarded some ports. Can anyone tell me what ports are necessary for viewing games?
Where can I see how many invites I got?
eltra
12-20-2009, 09:42 AM
Where can I see how many invites I got?
http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/invite.php
Magiks
12-20-2009, 11:37 AM
since the addition of icebrand always slowing on hits is there really a need for frostwolf? other than on int heroes because Ice and fire (s&y, h&s w/e you call it) doesn't give int.
If my team is ganking, but I'm at base (as Dark Lady) and I ultimate and my team gets some kills, will I get assists?
If my team is ganking, but I'm at base (as Dark Lady) and I ultimate and my team gets some kills, will I get assists?
AFAIK, you won't get an assist since you won't deal any damage for it to count as an assist.
AFAIK, you won't get an assist since you won't deal any damage for it to count as an assist.
Thank you sir.
sir_frog
12-20-2009, 09:14 PM
Are there any general guidelines or rules I should follow in hero selection? I play with 4 friends most of the time so we can pick an organized setup, usually sd/bd. Should we be making sure to have 1 carry, 1 tank, 3 support? (usually an initiator in as a support too) I'm not sure if this is the way it works, but it's what we've been running so far and it's quite hit and miss
Horotho
12-21-2009, 01:51 AM
Are there any general guidelines or rules I should follow in hero selection? I play with 4 friends most of the time so we can pick an organized setup, usually sd/bd. Should we be making sure to have 1 carry, 1 tank, 3 support? (usually an initiator in as a support too) I'm not sure if this is the way it works, but it's what we've been running so far and it's quite hit and miss.
Well, it all depends on the heros that you're facing. Obviously if it's SD/BD this will be a bit harder to accomplish, if the other team knows what they're doing. The standard set-up isn't always the best but it's not the worst. Some of the best teams in HoN don't always use a standard set-up. If you're playing with four friends, try a few different set-ups and see which one feels best and works the best for you. I can't say I have a ton of experience, since this account is mainly EM and I've recently started playing only non-EM, but having enough support to back up whatever heroes you choose is always a must.
Caide
12-21-2009, 05:21 AM
How do you control creeps with ophelia? that is, how do you efficiently manage ophelia + 3 neutral creeps and actually use their abilities
Comma
12-21-2009, 05:56 AM
How do you control creeps with ophelia? that is, how do you efficiently manage ophelia + 3 neutral creeps and actually use their abilities
I personally use the old Warcraft 3 Method. Hot-keying them to a group and using Tab. to go for individual abilities. Then maybe on screen select a few of them to move different orders. Then Tab-Q is sufficient enough to get it working. In a non-busy situation, it's easier to do since there's no pressure.
whee12
12-21-2009, 06:33 AM
people told me when i get to level 5 i get 3 free beta keys...i dnt knw how to get them
...help please...
SolidStroke
12-21-2009, 02:02 PM
people told me when i get to level 5 i get 3 free beta keys...i dnt knw how to get them
...help please...
They're lying. Occasionally, S2 will add keys to all/some/whatever they want accounts. :engi:
Nachitue
12-21-2009, 02:07 PM
I cant see any games, and nobody appears connected (on the top on the right i dont see any player only, but i can talk to the players in the channel).
Is there any way to add more servers or a way to solve this?? Its been 2 or 3 days with the same thing....
JelloBoy
12-22-2009, 04:32 AM
wheres deathmatch
Ibeatmycat
12-22-2009, 07:03 AM
Not sure if this is off topic or not, but im gonna ask it anyway!
Are there going to be any more heroes? All the slots are currently full. :(
Not sure if this is off topic or not, but im gonna ask it anyway!
Are there going to be any more heroes? All the slots are currently full. :(
Yes there will.
AnTlX
12-22-2009, 02:27 PM
I want to invite one friend to HoN. I still have 3 invite left, but since today i got redirect from the invite.php page to http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/open_create_account.php, why ?
Can't invite friend anymore ? He had to fill this page to get an account ?
SolidStroke
12-22-2009, 02:59 PM
I want to invite one friend to HoN. I still have 3 invite left, but since today i got redirect from the invite.php page to http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/open_create_account.php, why ?
Can't invite friend anymore ? He had to fill this page to get an account ?
It's an open beta for 72 hours, so instead of burning an invite, S2 has kindly redirected your friend to the open beta page.
setokiba
12-23-2009, 05:24 AM
whats the best stat for cronos like items and what order:chro:
LawBinded
12-23-2009, 01:40 PM
Does shrunken head block any ultimates? Or does it just block magic damage?
SolidStroke
12-23-2009, 04:12 PM
Does shrunken head block any ultimates? Or does it just block magic damage?
Shrunken Head blocks Ultimates that are not superior magic. Some ultimates youmight still suffer the effects, but not take the damage, eg. Succubus Ult? (correct me if I'm wrong, I just may be)
akitoes
12-23-2009, 06:28 PM
do plated greaves stack with SOTF/Astrolabe ?
ChikenMcTest
12-23-2009, 06:33 PM
1. At what time in the game do additional creeps spawn with each wave?
deadlydorito
12-24-2009, 01:41 AM
i been reading that nullfire blade counters jereziah. How exactly? I was thinking that best counter to his ult would be harkons blade ? pewpew
Roarpow
12-24-2009, 01:52 AM
i been reading that nullfire blade counters jereziah. How exactly? I was thinking that best counter to his ult would be harkons blade ? pewpew
Thats one counter, but nullfire takes off repel and his ult if im not mistaken.
Drasha
12-24-2009, 01:53 AM
do plated greaves stack with SOTF/Astrolabe ?
Yes
1. At what time in the game do additional creeps spawn with each wave?
creep waves from the base spawn every 30 seconds
jungle creeps spawn every minute
i been reading that nullfire blade counters jereziah. How exactly? I was thinking that best counter to his ult would be harkons blade ? pewpew
nullfire blade removes jeraziah's magic immunity buff
Fragnat
12-24-2009, 08:08 AM
whats the best stat for cronos like items and what order:chro:
steam boots, elder parasite, firebrand ( if u want some attack and movement speed cheap) if not then go for wingbow since you are rich
LightRain
12-25-2009, 12:13 AM
Shrunken Head blocks Ultimates that are not superior magic. Some ultimates youmight still suffer the effects, but not take the damage, eg. Succubus Ult? (correct me if I'm wrong, I just may be)
This is correct. (the big example is Tempest's ult still disables you, but deals no damage, if you have Shrunken Head activated)
FilionTeras
12-25-2009, 01:21 PM
sorry if it has been answered,
but what does taunt do?
SolidStroke
12-25-2009, 03:59 PM
sorry if it has been answered,
but what does taunt do?
if you're talking about the preorder. If you taunt someone and kill them, it plays the SMACKDOWN sound byte.
If you're talking about :legi:, then people in range lose control of their characters for a few seconds and are forced to attack him.
Antiiee
12-27-2009, 09:42 AM
I asked this one earlier, but did not get any answers. What ports should be forwarded in order to find games in the games list?
Sclampf1
12-28-2009, 07:32 AM
Does god exist?
Thysios
12-28-2009, 07:34 AM
Does god exist?
No. `
eLLeRoId
12-28-2009, 09:50 AM
just registered during open beta.. now i want to invite a friend, when i click on the link, it shows 0/0 invites used.. cant send invites anymore.. anybody experiencing the same problem? when would i get to send an invite?
FilionTeras
12-28-2009, 10:44 AM
if you're talking about the preorder. If you taunt someone and kill them, it plays the SMACKDOWN sound byte.
If you're talking about :legi:, then people in range lose control of their characters for a few seconds and are forced to attack him.
i meant about the preorder one, thank you
SolidStroke
12-28-2009, 12:55 PM
just registered during open beta.. now i want to invite a friend, when i click on the link, it shows 0/0 invites used.. cant send invites anymore.. anybody experiencing the same problem? when would i get to send an invite?
S2 add invites to accounts whenever they feel like it and to whomever they feel like it.
kaalimato
12-28-2009, 06:04 PM
When should I buy null stone?
MikeRoeWave
12-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Can we download previous games' replays before the "download replay" feature is released or only the games played after its release?
Can we download previous games' replays before the "download replay" feature is released or only the games played after its release?
The plan is to allow all games that have been played to be replayed.
Browski
12-28-2009, 11:55 PM
How does one counter the puzzlebox in 1v1?
jbell
12-29-2009, 01:50 AM
I tried to start a practice game and the map is totally dark. I have caught a quick glimpse once or twice while trying to mess with the settings. Any idea why this is or how I can fix it?! Thanks
I usually get the "dark screen bug" when I alt+tab alot. Reboot HoN usually helps but I had to reinstall my GFX drivers once for it to start working normally again.
SolidStroke
12-29-2009, 09:31 AM
How does one counter the puzzlebox in 1v1?
In a Practice game, see if Nullfire Blade instagibs those summons. And you can kill the one that bothers you the most.
akitoes
12-29-2009, 11:09 AM
Soulstealer : when do you get portkey first, when do you get posthaste first?
("when you need to gank" "when you need to farm" is obvious, but does anyone have some examples ?)
dreamex
12-29-2009, 11:15 AM
Soulstealer : when do you get portkey first, when do you get posthaste first?
("when you need to gank" "when you need to farm" is obvious, but does anyone have some examples ?)
Post Haste first 99% of the time.
You can consider Portal Key first if they are pushing early as you can use it to instagib and initiate for your team if you lack antipush.
Otherwise the map control offered by Post Haste contributes more to ganking and farming in order to build a solid mid game compared to portal key.
kaalimato
12-29-2009, 11:19 AM
When should I buy null stone?
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dreamex
12-29-2009, 11:48 AM
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If the other team has very few targetted skills but a few very important ones you can consider Nullstone. Generally this only applies in pub games.
For instance, in a lineup of: :swif::phar::soulr::temp::vind:
You can use Nullstone to Snuff Swift, Pharaoh and Soul Reaper's ultimates as none of them have targetted skills. In fact, the only targetted skill in this lineup is Tempest's Glacial Blast. Most good lineups will have plenty of targetted disable spam, and even in this event it may be likely that vindicator and soul reaper choose to purchase an item that can negate your nullstone (Tablet of Command, Sheepstick, Stormspirit, Hellflower, etc).
I suppose against a team like: :pyro::valk::swif::fors::arac: that you often see in horrible pubs you can opt for Nullstone to really screw up Swiftblade and protect you from Pyromancer as well.
It's not too good against heroes with multiple targeted abilities on short cooldown or heroes who commonly purchase additional targeted abilities (sheep, hellflower, etc):
:poll::elec::witc::thun:
`Merchant
12-30-2009, 12:21 AM
does activating puzzle box break channeling or is it like shrunken head?
if you're succubus, do you have to activate pbox before you ult?
LightRain
12-30-2009, 05:41 AM
Puzzlebox breaks channeling, so you have to activate it before you ult.
anyone know what's up with k't's ophelia in the most recent finals and semi finals in regards to him getting judgement over nature's wrath?
Crashh
12-30-2009, 01:19 PM
This is really starting to piss me off. I've been using a laptop to play HoN, which I've never had any problems with Warcraft 3, or Starcraft, or other rts games. But in just about the end of my very first game of the day, or my second my laptop freezes up. It takes about 5 minutes to reset up which causes me to geta high lever % and just ruins my fun and is frustrating. I have a under cooling system, and I have a fan blowing on it.
So I don't know if I am overheating or what. Any suggestions to prevent this? Obviously besides buying a new laptop.
homecoming stones and wards of sights are easily the most imba items in the game... but if im having problems to complete any bigger items, how do i know if i should just keep buying wards and stones or i should farm my items?
I have noticed that being able to port and save a teammate (and possiby get the counter-gank kill for your team) and map control can win games. But sometimes going around without any good gear just doesnt cut it and you end up being food for the other team.
Rommi
12-31-2009, 05:11 AM
Where is the ultimate hero guide or what it was ?
Really we need it ! Why did they take it down ?
I saw a new one in drafts, when it's coming ?
how to get the camera at the same distance as dota? (2000 if i remember well)
searched a bit but every thread i found were not related this.
or is it even possible to change it?
Extreme_Cake
01-01-2010, 06:27 AM
You can't. It isn't possible.
Sthorn
01-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Does Mock Of Brilliance stack?
SolidStroke
01-02-2010, 01:34 AM
Does Mock Of Brilliance stack?
No, because someone whom receives the Mock of Brilliance effect, cannot receive it twice. This is why identical auras do not stack as well. Or other things.
TheBusDriver
01-02-2010, 07:41 AM
Steamboots or Ghost Marchers on Hammer?
I mean, Steamboots seem like such a natural choice because of the strength/attack speed buff, but between Elder Parasite, Ghost Marchers and Galvanize I managed 522 move speed for about 5 seconds - with phasing. That permitted me to chase effectively (especially against other ghost marchers) and save mana for an emergency stun, rather than waste it when I'm blocked by creeps or worse, to initiate gank on a single hero.
whats a difference between a carry, tank, gank, supporter.
a carry is the person that does high damage and thus the killer
tank is the guy that can take a lot of damage
gank is ?
supporter as in healer and ???
am I even close? :(
:S
TheBusDriver
01-02-2010, 11:19 AM
Support has a broad meaning. At its tightest it seems to mean characters like Pollywog (with his disables) or Glacius (aura + disables). It can also mean healers like Demented and Jeraziah, or even someone with a decent nuke like Blacksmith, because his nuke also stuns the enemy and he has abilities that slow the enemy and buff your team.
It's also how you play a character. Scout can be a carry, but he can also play support by placing his eyes around the map (and even carrying wards for extra coverage) and by countering enemy carries by using disarm to really hurt their damage. But it's not a completely natural role for him. You can also classify initiators like Behemoth and Magmus as support despite their damage, because their job is to start the fight on favorable terms and they can prevent the enemy from running.
Basically, if he helps you win the fight indirectly (ie, isn't a primary damage dealer or damage sponge) then he's a support.
A tank isn't just someone who takes a lot of damage. To do that you just need a lot of hitpoints. Ideal tanks make it impossible to be ignored either through abilities or items. Legionnaire is the classic tank because he has a taunt which forces you to attack him and then his passive ability damages you when you attack him. Electrician can be played as tank because of his mana shield and his disable and purge make him really difficult to ignore. Zephyr has his tornadoes which do a lot of AOE damage.
Like support, tank is also how you play a character. Keeper of the Forest can be support or tank, or both. His good STR gain means he gets a lot of hitpoints, and his abilities (especially his ult) make the other team either want to avoid a fight or take him out fairly quickly. Items also define the character. Soul Reaper can be built as a tank and the enemy team may focus on him just to get rid of his aura and aoe nuke/heal. Accursed, on the other hand, is such a good "tank" by nature that he is often disregarded because his abilities don't seem to have much punch, especially as the game enters later middle stage. So instead of buying him health and armor, people will buy support or damage items to force the enemy team to focus on him. His ultimate will either save him or prolong his life enough that more important enemies are killed. Sand Wraith can be a very effective tank, if you build him that way. Give him health, regen/lifesteal, and Mock of Brilliance and you force the enemy to attack him en masse. He may not last as long as Accursed or Legionnaire, but one of his passive abilities reflects the damage enemies do to him in a large AOE to them.
Gankers are characters that specialize in ganking. This usually means early-mid in the game, at level 6 when they have their ult (possibly earlier). They'll leave lane to either hunt the enemy if they're in the jungle or go to another lane and initiate or finish a kill. Classic choices are Blood Hunter and Succubus. Blood Hunter's ultimate discourages the enemy from running and his passive allows him to chase very well. He can carry but doesn't quite have the abilities for hard carry, but he can also support with his silence. However, generally he is a ganker. Succubus is one of the most potent gankers out there, with three disables, a powerful nuke that heals her, her ultimate disables the enemy and she can basically gank a lane by herself if timed well. Of course, she's also support, because she has those disables (and is a good way to slow down many carries/semi-carries like Hammerstorm). Sand Wraith is a ganker; his ultimate allows him to find the enemy anywhere on the map and teleport there. His one passive gives him a significant damage bonus to isolated enemies. His active allows him to chase and escape and damage as necessary. Moon Queen is a ganker. Between her ult, passive, and spell, she can walk into a lane and absolutely rape it, especially if there are few to no enemy creeps around.
Carry means one of three things:
1. Hard carry. This is a character like Chronos or Magebane, who has little to no utility to offer because his damage. They are typically very fragile agility characters with passive or active abilities that greatly increase their damage or killing ability in a fight. Chronos has his bash and ultimate. Magebane has mana burn and his ultimate. They both have a blink to escape ganks or chase their foes down. They're called carries because later in the game, they carry their teams to victory and are almost unstoppable if they have the right items. On the other hand, if played badly, they can fall almost hopelessly behind with just a few ganks and end up feeding the other team or being minor contributors, or worse, forced to farm while their team needs help. Madman is a hard carry in many people's eyes, but he also has a lot of utility and survivability relative to Chronos and Magebane, with his stun and windwalk. You could call Puppet a hard carry even though he's an intelligence character with great support abilities. Cases can be made for Predator, Armadon, War Beast and even Hammerstorm.
Basically, hard carry is a character whose abilities scale very well into late game. Dark Lady, Chronos, Madman, Magebane for sure. Predator would make many people's lists, even though he's quite survivable and lacks any sort of disable, just because his passive lifesteal scales so well and he has a blink of sorts.
2. Semi-carry. Characters that can carry but their abilities don't complement them to the extremes that hard carries do. Strength carries are often called semi-carries, but an agility character can fall into this role as well, like Sand Wraith, Blood Hunter, Slither, arguably Moon Queen (though some also put her as a hard carry). Maliken, Hammerstorm, Predator, Pestilence, arguably War Beast, Armadon, Panda, Pebbles, and other are ones I've seen commonly listed as semi-carries. But don't get fooled. A semi-carry can eat a hard carry alive, typically early in the game or later, if the semi-carry farmed better.
3. Carry build. It's how you might build and equip a character, even though they're not necessarily a carry by nature. Carry Jeraziah, carry Accursed, carry Nymphora, even carry Keeper of the Forest are all builds I've seen attempted or seriously discussed. Often these are borne of boredom, necessity, or curiosity. With the right items, almost any character can be built into a reasonable facsimile of a carry, but he'll never stand up to a semi-carry or carry of comparable items and level.
The difference between semi-carry and carry is a lot more vague than between those two and "carry build".
As you can see, it's all loosely defined and people argue about it quite often. I'm sure I'll be corrected/flamed about some of my definitions and examples.
It's typically more useful to use specific terms. Rather than generic "support" you can ask if a healer is needed, a disabler, an initiator, etc. Then you need to know what kind. Vindicator is great for his silences and spammable damage over-time AOE/mana burn, but against characters with more passive abilities like Armadon, Chronos, or Madman, you'd probably want stuns - so Blacksmith, Pestilence, Pyromancer, etc. Or if they have a lot of carries on their team, a combination of Succubus, Blacksmith, and Hellbringer can really sink their damage potential (all 3 have very nice spells that reduce the damage the targets do significantly) while at the same time allowing you to gank early-mid and push lanes so they can't farm enough before the game's over.
Sometimes people might want a specific counter to a certain enemy, like having a Witch Slayer on your team to keep Vindicator in line, for example.
Or if their Legionnaire is really good, Predator is an excellent counter. On the other hand, Panda is an even better (if not better) counter to Predator than Pred is to Lego. Pro teams apparently spend almost as much time arguing and setting up picks as they do playing their matches, just because of the pick/counter-pick/counter-counter-pick game.
NorseRafa
01-02-2010, 02:55 PM
Does helm of the black legion block damage from devourers decay?
TheBusDriver
01-02-2010, 05:01 PM
Nope. Helm only stops the first 40 damage (before armor reduction) of physical attacks. Devourer does magic damage.
Thank you for your reply.
@[G6K]NorseRafa
If you want to take less damage from Decay u will need a Shamans Headress (and maybe even upgrade it to Barrier Idol)
SolidStroke
01-02-2010, 07:43 PM
Steamboots or Ghost Marchers on Hammer?
I mean, Steamboots seem like such a natural choice because of the strength/attack speed buff, but between Elder Parasite, Ghost Marchers and Galvanize I managed 522 move speed for about 5 seconds - with phasing. That permitted me to chase effectively (especially against other ghost marchers) and save mana for an emergency stun, rather than waste it when I'm blocked by creeps or worse, to initiate gank on a single hero.
Swing faster. Your Galvanize/Elder is enough to chase.
Does helm of the black legion block damage from devourers decay?
I believe decay does magic damage, so no.
Is there a hotkey to move items from/to stash?
_ConsS_
01-03-2010, 08:20 PM
How can I send pictures to admins to ban some mother****erss for ruining the game?
garblax
01-03-2010, 08:48 PM
I asked this one earlier, but did not get any answers. What ports should be forwarded in order to find games in the games list?
HoN doesn't require your router to foward ports to your computer.
Harniq
01-04-2010, 07:26 AM
What is backdoor?
How do I play only mid without creeps pushing the other lanes?
LightRain
01-04-2010, 12:48 PM
What is backdoor?
How do I play only mid without creeps pushing the other lanes?
'backdoor' is an idea from dota that isn't technically possible in this game
yet, if you attack any building at all without having friendly creeps with you, there's a high chance someone will call 'bd' and get all mad at you. My advice is ignore them, but play however you want, go ahead and ask them why they believe bd is wrong.
Currently you can't play OM without the other lanes doing something. If no -OM mode is implemented, you can expect someone will make a mid-lane-only map when the map editor is released.
jdog3907
01-04-2010, 04:57 PM
Hey All,
I need some suggestions for a 5 man hero setup to own some folks at work. However many of my teammates are pretty new to the HoN DoTA game type. So i'm trying to stay away from anything too complex that they can't learn in about a week. Thoughts?
Thanks!
syL1st
01-04-2010, 05:10 PM
/edit.
Hey All,
I need some suggestions for a 5 man hero setup to own some folks at work. However many of my teammates are pretty new to the HoN DoTA game type. So i'm trying to stay away from anything too complex that they can't learn in about a week. Thoughts?
Thanks!
Hehehee.
:behe::pebb::hamm::andr::pest:
Stun galore
dreamex
01-05-2010, 10:50 AM
Hey All,
I need some suggestions for a 5 man hero setup to own some folks at work. However many of my teammates are pretty new to the HoN DoTA game type. So i'm trying to stay away from anything too complex that they can't learn in about a week. Thoughts?
Thanks!
Mid: :fors:
Long: :nymp:+:madm:
Short: :hell:+:mali:
Really easy to play, except the Hellbringer babysitter, but there's a great guide on here for that.
You pretty much have three hard carries with really good gank potential so whoever can rice the best can be your carry while the others are your gankers, you also have 2 strong pushers and 2 strong initiators along with a stun or snare or disorient on every hero.
You probably won't get this lineup in anything except AP though!
The Nymph / MM lane can be substituted for another strong lane instead but I find MM as a ganker extremely valuable and he has huge carry potential with her.
Piracy
01-06-2010, 09:03 AM
Is using your hero model to block your creeps against the rules of Heroes of Newerth? How about luring those creeps to the jungle creeps?
SolidStroke
01-06-2010, 09:32 AM
Is using your hero model to block your creeps against the rules of Heroes of Newerth? How about luring those creeps to the jungle creeps?
Not at all. These methods are encouraged and done by all.
Snacks
01-07-2010, 11:15 AM
Which heroes are considered the strongest lane pushers?
SolidStroke
01-07-2010, 03:11 PM
Which heroes are considered the strongest lane pushers?
Ophelia comes out into a lane and can take down 2 towers easy.
Defiler
Polly
LightRain
01-07-2010, 09:22 PM
Also, Torturer
new Slither :)
What's the reasoning behind Vindicator rushing Puzzlebox? I hear it was a good competitive strategy in DotA, but I haven't found a replay of it.
Sat0shi
01-09-2010, 11:55 PM
What's the reasoning behind Vindicator rushing Puzzlebox? I hear it was a good competitive strategy in DotA, but I haven't found a replay of it.
Puzzlebox/Necrobook is a good option when dealing with invisible/stealth heroes. Another option is to carry around dust of appearance. These are both better choices than purchasing a bound eye/gem. Only time I ever buy a gem is against a really good Rikimaru/Night Hound or Scout.
Why someone would rush a puzzlebox on Vindicator is beyond me. Personally I'd rush bloodstone/refresher.
Synchrogazer
01-11-2010, 01:01 AM
I've taken a liking to Plague Rider lately(I've gotten sick and tired of playing Disciple and War Beast).
I usually go this build on him(I'll call mid solo to capitalize on Int's early game potential, but I'll give it away if there's another hero on the team better suited to it):
Starting items:
1x Refreshing Ornament
6x Runes of the Blight
1x Mana Potion
I'll start by skilling Contagion, then Extinguish alternately. Extinguish keeps my mana up(so I can harass with Contagion), while Ornament keeps me in good health(and builds into something later).
Items to build:
1. Astrolabe. I always go for this first.
2. Marchers.(Ghost Marchers later if I have the extra money)
3. Nome's Wisdom.
I'm usually set for the rest of the game, but I might dip for a Stormspirit and use it as a poor man's Totem of Kuldra(or whatever fits the situation). Astro/Nome's are built because I know that my combat usefulness(other than Shield + R) sharply decreases in lategame, so I at least have a couple of auras to help out with.
Any better item builds I could be using? This one serves me well, but I'm wondering if there's something better.
laserblade
01-11-2010, 08:54 AM
Can shieldbreaker apply to buildings? I feel like I do more damage with Shieldbreaker on a building than savage mace.
Meshaber
01-11-2010, 01:43 PM
Is it possible to crit and bash (Or proc savage mace) on the same hit?
Synchrogazer
01-11-2010, 06:35 PM
Unless you randomed, you wouldn't be able to buy those starting items you listed in a 5v5 (You start with 603 and Refreshing Ornament is 603)
Yeah, my bad, I meant Trinket of Restoration
Lancer
01-11-2010, 06:45 PM
Lately I've taken a liking to Blood Hunter and Night Hound. As I am still new and learning to play HoN, would it more beneficial for me to choose Random or BH/NH?
I've taken a liking to Plague Rider lately(I've gotten sick and tired of playing Disciple and War Beast).
I usually go this build on him(I'll call mid solo to capitalize on Int's early game potential, but I'll give it away if there's another hero on the team better suited to it):
Starting items:
1x Refreshing Ornament
6x Runes of the Blight
1x Mana Potion
I'll start by skilling Contagion, then Extinguish alternately. Extinguish keeps my mana up(so I can harass with Contagion), while Ornament keeps me in good health(and builds into something later).
Items to build:
1. Astrolabe. I always go for this first.
2. Marchers.(Ghost Marchers later if I have the extra money)
3. Nome's Wisdom.
I'm usually set for the rest of the game, but I might dip for a Stormspirit and use it as a poor man's Totem of Kuldra(or whatever fits the situation). Astro/Nome's are built because I know that my combat usefulness(other than Shield + R) sharply decreases in lategame, so I at least have a couple of auras to help out with.
Any better item builds I could be using? This one serves me well, but I'm wondering if there's something better.
Unless you randomed, you wouldn't be able to buy those starting items you listed in a 5v5 (You start with 603 and Refreshing Ornament is 603). In my opinion you shouldn't be starting with a Refreshing Ornament anyway, it's better to have some stats when you get into the lane.
Instead of soloing mid you should lane with a carry, as Plague is a nice babysitter with his awesome harass.
It's good to take extinguish at level one so you can deny a creep as soon as your creeps spawn. It may not seem like much, but it's exp and a potential last hit for your enemies.
It might pay to pick up some bracers after getting boots to help out your relatively small HP pool.
what makes Geometer's Bane such a good item and why is it especially good on ranged people like Valkyrie.
Drasha
01-12-2010, 11:46 PM
what makes Geometer's Bane such a good item and why is it especially good on ranged people like Valkyrie.
it gives you a good amount of damage and makes you harder to kill a 2 in one item is good. It is good on ranged heroes because the illusions don't have as hard of a time hitting people when they are ranged.
Anla`Shok
01-14-2010, 11:14 AM
Greetings everybody, I have a neutral creep question.
I'm having issues (0.1.64 if that matters) pulling creeps in the Legion side, bottom lane. I've read various guides (Wild Soul, Legionnaire) which detail how to pull the bottom Medium camp into the lane, but when I try to do this, most of the time either
The neutrals turn back when I cross the tree line into the lane, or
The friendly creeps walk by as if they don't care (or I just get the ranged one helping out).
I don't have this problem on the Hellbourne side, probably because it has a much straighter shot from the camp to the lane. I tried eating the tree in the juke spot and it doesn't seem to help. Any hints? I mostly just nee d to know what triggers the neutrals to turn around and return to the camp.
dreamex
01-14-2010, 04:02 PM
Greetings everybody, I have a neutral creep question.
I'm having issues (0.1.64 if that matters) pulling creeps in the Legion side, bottom lane. I've read various guides (Wild Soul, Legionnaire) which detail how to pull the bottom Medium camp into the lane, but when I try to do this, most of the time either
The neutrals turn back when I cross the tree line into the lane, or
The friendly creeps walk by as if they don't care (or I just get the ranged one helping out).
I don't have this problem on the Hellbourne side, probably because it has a much straighter shot from the camp to the lane. I tried eating the tree in the juke spot and it doesn't seem to help. Any hints? I mostly just nee d to know what triggers the neutrals to turn around and return to the camp.
Range is the usual trigger for creeps to return.
You should pull the bottom creep wave around :15 or :45
Check the guides for a good pulling guide for the other camps.
it gives you a good amount of damage and makes you harder to kill a 2 in one item is good. It is good on ranged heroes because the illusions don't have as hard of a time hitting people when they are ranged.
on valkery should it be taken as the first big item? over charge hammer?
Drasha
01-15-2010, 12:03 PM
on valkery should it be taken as the first big item? over charge hammer?
depends on the situation if the other team has a lot of aoe damage the illusions would get gibed pretty fast but if they only have single target damage the illusions would be pretty useful.
order does not really matter that much you could go with a thunerclaw -> fire brand -> charged hammer -> geometers and do fine weaving the items in like that.
Acey1
01-15-2010, 12:08 PM
On which heros, or against which heros, does Tablet of command particularly work? Been looking for an excuse to use this item >_>
Gumbie
01-15-2010, 12:13 PM
On which heros, or against which heros, does Tablet of command particularly work? Been looking for an excuse to use this item >_>
ALWAYS against Pharaoh. "You want to surround me in Mummies? Fukc your mummies!"
Acey1
01-15-2010, 12:18 PM
What an awesome suggestion. Thanks.
RyokoHakubi
01-15-2010, 12:28 PM
On which heros, or against which heros, does Tablet of command particularly work? Been looking for an excuse to use this item >_>
Against Chronos (you can get a teammate out of his ult). Against Forsaken Archer (can get teammate out of the way of an ult if he is immobilized by volly).
RyokoHakubi
01-15-2010, 12:33 PM
what makes Geometer's Bane such a good item and why is it especially good on ranged people like Valkyrie.
Geometer's Bane not only adds a significant amount of stats which give you survivability, extra damage, better attack speed, more armor, but it also has a huge use -- adding images of yourself. These images can often confuse enemies, and they add a lot of extra damage. Also, heroes that have a bash (like Chronos, Pestilence, Rampage) have their bashing capabilities tripled. As in, your illusions will bash too.
Marlas
01-15-2010, 01:22 PM
not a strategy question, but does somebody knows if there is an AI-Mod for hon or is it posible to create one like in dota?
LightRain
01-15-2010, 01:27 PM
On which heros, or against which heros, does Tablet of command particularly work? Been looking for an excuse to use this item >_>
Tempest and Panda, as well as the others already posted
Anla`Shok
01-15-2010, 02:54 PM
If I use the three charges of a full bottle in quick succession, am I wasting it? Or will the regen compound?
SolidStroke
01-15-2010, 03:03 PM
If I use the three charges of a full bottle in quick succession, am I wasting it? Or will the regen compound?
Wasted, as you only have the Bottle-recharge effect on you once (look at your effects bar)
yumeatup
01-15-2010, 06:09 PM
how do i type in color ie red/green?
want to use these colors in bardui for missing calls
Utred
01-16-2010, 07:15 AM
how do i type in color ie red/green?
want to use these colors in bardui for missing calls
With ^r, ^g,...
So eg. "^r 2 mia bot"
I always thought Soul Reapers Withering Presence is a great Skill, because it could disable Potions in a 1000 AOE, but yesterday i realised it doesnt cancel Potions. Would it be too OP if Withering Presence would cancel used Bottle Charges, Potions and Nymphs Grace ?
merendero
01-16-2010, 02:27 PM
Does Whitering Presence stack witch Mock?
SolidStroke
01-16-2010, 06:14 PM
I always thought Soul Reapers Withering Presence is a great Skill, because it could disable Potions in a 1000 AOE, but yesterday i realised it doesnt cancel Potions. Would it be too OP if Withering Presence would cancel used Bottle Charges, Potions and Nymphs Grace ?
Yes. Its aura is already amazing.
How to:
Taunt In Game?
Special In-Game Icon?
Unique Chat Name Color?
See this --> 2825
Check it out the second slot :O WTF!?
crazysheep
01-16-2010, 10:34 PM
Does Whitering Presence stack witch Mock?
Yes they do.
balazsr
01-17-2010, 08:59 AM
I have updated to version 0.1.65 today and the game does not start after update, the screen goes black and nothing happens. Previous version was running fine, I haven't done any modification to the system before the update
CUIManager::SetActiveInterface() - Interface main not found, attempting to load...
i dont know whats the problem
ZzohzZChasm
01-17-2010, 04:04 PM
Question :
What priority does Hellbringer's Death Boil work on ? If I cast it on a creep at level 1, what is the guarantee the link will affect a nearby enemy hero ? And if I cast it on a hero surrounded by 10-12 creeps and another hero at level 4, what is the guarantee it will affect the other hero and 3 creeps ? Does it work according to nearness or priority ?
sHoWTiMe
01-17-2010, 04:10 PM
Where do I sent invites ?
ZzohzZChasm
01-17-2010, 04:44 PM
Where do I sent invites ?
www.heroesofnewerth.com (http://www.heroesofnewerth.com)
Go to "Play Beta", log in, and there should be a button that says "Invites". If you do not have any invites, that means you joined after S2 issued them. I think.
depends on the situation if the other team has a lot of aoe damage the illusions would get gibed pretty fast but if they only have single target damage the illusions would be pretty useful.
order does not really matter that much you could go with a thunerclaw -> fire brand -> charged hammer -> geometers and do fine weaving the items in like that.
I just can't stand turning useless late game. I feel like a support stunner one game i was like 3-1-20 WTF?? Then also not finishing people for the kill.
who is the hardest hard carry in the game. Top 3 and why?
DemiKid123
01-18-2010, 08:05 AM
i cant leave my clan...y is that?
Mark`
01-18-2010, 11:24 AM
who is the hardest hard carry in the game. Top 3 and why?
not in any ranked order:
1. chronos due to being able to chronofield+kill heroes with sufficient farm
2. sand wraith due to large dissipate damage with sufficient hp in late game (although somewhat nerfed due to magic damage instead of true damage now. although in theory, blacksmith+hellbringer could actually make this a buff. unlikely, though.)
3. madman/tdl. not sure which. but i think they have the best scaling abilities in terms of +damage/attack speed.
How much of a damage boost is nullfire. The reason i'm asking is because on nighthound i understand why you get it because it has crazy +agi which increase's his base damage. But on other non nighthound agi characters and your not trying to purge off hellbringers alt or any type of countering like that why would get it?
2nd questions
I saw Harkoons on a Forsaken archer that was raping people. whaT?!?!
Kingfisher
01-19-2010, 04:18 AM
This one game I was playing Night Hound and I accidentally the whole thing. advice?
Persiatic
01-19-2010, 05:07 AM
If you join a game and someone in that game is on your banlist will you be notified or does the banlist only work if you are hosting a game?
SubZero2
01-19-2010, 06:29 AM
hey dude i just want report one player.we agree to play 1v1 and he make BD i whole game...i hope u will do somthing abouth that kind of ppl coz it is lame to have players like that noobs.his name is Dangzaro.
PS. im not onlyone who complain about that type of players so i will realy apricite if u do somthing about it :)
RandomCunt
01-19-2010, 06:58 AM
I was just wondering how you guys deny/last hit. It often happens that you have to choose between denying and last hitting... I've come to the conclusion that you should last hit if your carry, and deny if your against a carry... but can anyone go in depth with this? Ofc you can do both but what should be first prio?
Thanks in advance.
Toxo231
01-19-2010, 01:47 PM
whats the best hero VS NH?
SolidStroke
01-19-2010, 02:34 PM
whats the best hero VS NH?
For 1v1... ? Damn near anything if there's equal farm. NH needs to backstab to wtfpwn. Just move out of his cloud, and face him as he's attacking, and use a puzzlebox (because it's such a kickass item)
RatedRKO
01-19-2010, 05:17 PM
If I'm invis and I use a homecoming stone, do I become visible to the enemy team?
SolidStroke
01-19-2010, 06:18 PM
If I'm invis and I use a homecoming stone, do I become visible to the enemy team?
Yes.
jomoroon
01-20-2010, 04:45 AM
When spels say they enhance base damage, does that mean it enhances the damage without items?
LightRain
01-20-2010, 10:22 AM
When spels say they enhance base damage, does that mean it enhances the damage without items?
sort of. base damage is the damage you get from your main stat. Items that increase your main stat (Like Axe of the Malphai on a Str hero) will also increase your base damage, but items that just say "+x damage" (like Ghost Marchers, giving +24 damage) will not increase your base damage.
dreamex
01-20-2010, 03:54 PM
Yes.
Complex answer,
I believe :keep: can stone out while camouflaged >_>
TenSARS
01-21-2010, 06:15 AM
Is there a site which tells you how much damage reduction X amout of magic/physical armour is worth?
Or even better, what's the formula used to calculate reductions?
derylO
01-21-2010, 08:10 AM
if u loose a game and u play well, and two stupid players ruin the game, you loose less PSR than playing noobish and dying a lot or is it always the same amount of points u loose?!
TenSARS
01-21-2010, 08:20 AM
^
You always win/lose the points as indicated by the game regardless of in game performance. But the higher your PSR in relation to your team, the less points are at stake for you in that particular game, probably to prevent low level feeders from totally raping your PSR by giving their carry their best game ever, or to have it so that two friends with differing PSRs converge together if they win together a lot.
edmeister
01-21-2010, 01:44 PM
I'm a bit confused about attack modifiers and how/when they stack.
If I'm correct, frostburn and shieldbreaker don't stack since they automatically apply on each auto attack. Does that mean that on-chance "modifiers" like riftshards and brutalizer are a different ballgame and thus stack?
And another quick question about hammerstorm's second skill, at lvl 4 it does 50% aoe dmg, does that mean that if you crit with riftshards you'll get bigger splash dmg or not?
SolidStroke
01-21-2010, 02:45 PM
I'm a bit confused about attack modifiers and how/when they stack.
If I'm correct, frostburn and shieldbreaker don't stack since they automatically apply on each auto attack. Does that mean that on-chance "modifiers" like riftshards and brutalizer are a different ballgame and thus stack?
"Exclusive attack modifiers" is the key words here.
Icebrand, Frostburn, Shieldbreaker, Slither's Toxicity...
And another quick question about hammerstorm's second skill, at lvl 4 it does 50% aoe dmg, does that mean that if you crit with riftshards you'll get bigger splash dmg or not?
Yes (iirc)
jomoroon
01-21-2010, 10:13 PM
any way to watch replays online, i.e. while waiting in lobby for game to fill up?
RandomCunt
01-22-2010, 03:21 AM
Would you mind answering my question???????????? I find this very annoying... you dont know nothing????... bout deny/last hit
_Alice
01-22-2010, 10:21 AM
do cleave attack effect FA's skelotons ?
SolidStroke
01-22-2010, 10:38 AM
Would you mind answering my question???????????? I find this very annoying... you dont know nothing????... bout deny/last hit
I like gold. Get the one you KNOW you're going to get.
do cleave attack effect FA's skelotons ?
No.
Somnium
01-22-2010, 10:39 AM
How do I change the camera angle in practice and replay games?
SolidStroke
01-22-2010, 01:22 PM
How do I change the camera angle in practice and replay games?
\ and Backspace resets (or the other way around)
Levisk
01-22-2010, 01:28 PM
two or more mock of brilhance stack?
TenSARS
01-22-2010, 01:29 PM
Is there a site which tells you how much damage reduction X amout of magic/physical armour is worth?
Or even better, what's the formula used to calculate reductions?
I guess it's a case of: "Want the formula for damage reductions? TOO BAD! IT'S ME, :blac:"
Cloud
01-22-2010, 02:05 PM
Question about controlling Couriers:
I see people using them so efficiently; like in the middle of a fight or when running away. I was wondering how the veteran gamers use couriers so well. Do they have short keys to select courier? And once you select courier is there a key to reselect your hero? What button configurations do you use? Thanks a lot! Please feel free to message me as well, I would really appreciate some tips
Edit:
Oops sorry found a post about this
To choose between courier and hero press `
Then buy quickly and press "E" and then "Shift-R" so the courier runs back to back after he gives you your items.
McHamlet
01-22-2010, 07:09 PM
what am i going to buy first if i jungle legionaire....
Drasha
01-22-2010, 07:15 PM
any way to watch replays online, i.e. while waiting in lobby for game to fill up?
no way to watch them like replays how ever honcast.com has a good selection of videos as well are honreplays.org
two or more mock of brilhance stack?
two or more mocks will not stack
I guess it's a case of: "Want the formula for damage reductions? TOO BAD! IT'S ME, :blac:"
the formula for magic and normal armor reduction
reduction = ((armor)*0.06)/(1+0.06*(armor))
what am i going to buy first if i jungle legionaire....
here is the premium lego guide
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=11992
it suggests 2 shields and some runes of the blight and i agree with it.
jeffdell91
01-22-2010, 07:29 PM
When i click to play herosofnewerth it goes in a blank screen and says want to save the crash and its shuts of the game i need to play this gameeee help anyone....
Drasha
01-22-2010, 07:33 PM
When i click to play herosofnewerth it goes in a blank screen and says want to save the crash and its shuts of the game i need to play this gameeee help anyone....
if you ask in this section of the forums i am sure they will be able to help you
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4
Jesperson
01-22-2010, 07:36 PM
What is the Answer to the Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything? , and why can't I watch replays in my HoN client?
Drasha
01-22-2010, 07:39 PM
What is the Answer to the Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything? , and why can't I watch replays in my HoN client?
42 and the replay you are trying to watch is most likely to old they only work if they were played after patch 1.65.
Jesperson
01-22-2010, 07:43 PM
42 and the replay you are trying to watch is most likely to old they only work if they were played after patch 1.65.
I played it about 1h ago, and it's the button itself I can't press and I've used the search function but nothing really relevant.
And my life question is thanked!
Drasha
01-22-2010, 07:47 PM
I played it about 1h ago, and it's the button itself I can't press and I've used the search function but nothing really relevant.
And my life question is thanked!
match id? also there have been some server problems where some ids would not save.
Jesperson
01-22-2010, 07:55 PM
Id: 22935533
Drasha
01-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Id: 22935533
works fine for me some times you have to log out and then back in to see a replay of a game you just got out of.
Jesperson
01-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Gotta be honest, I'm getting abit ****** in the head atm because I still can't click the view replay-button...
TenSARS
01-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Thanks Drasha.
Drasha
01-22-2010, 08:04 PM
Gotta be honest, I'm getting abit ****** in the head atm because I still can't click the view replay-button...
hm you sure you are on the right match id? i am watching it right now your doing good mid and the bottle fallowing you all the way back to the fountain at the 6:30 mark is funny as hell.
Thanks Drasha.
no problem
Jesperson
01-22-2010, 08:21 PM
Is there any simpler way we may talk other then here because I need emidiate assistant...
Drasha
01-22-2010, 08:24 PM
Is there any simpler way we may talk other then here because I need emidiate assistant...
wisper me in game i will log on right now.
man_guy
01-23-2010, 11:11 AM
Why can't I see the electric eye, the bottom most ward? This shot is taken from spectator of a replay. The vision and invis wards are mine. I have unobstructed clear line of sight from an elevated location.
Drasha
01-23-2010, 12:04 PM
Why can't I see the electric eye, the bottom most ward? This shot is taken from spectator of a replay. The vision and invis wards are mine. I have unobstructed clear line of sight from an elevated location.
your ward of sight does not have vision of the warded. If you had put the ward of sight with the ward of vision then you would have been able to see it. How ever because you put it on the lower cliff the edge of your vision gets blocked by the cliff behind it making it so you can't see the ward from a higher elevation.
kimimaru`
01-23-2010, 12:40 PM
How do I download my replays? And do I also need to log in to HoN before I can see the replays? @.@ Sorry for being such a noob. :)
Drasha
01-23-2010, 01:12 PM
How do I download my replays? And do I also need to log in to HoN before I can see the replays? @.@ Sorry for being such a noob. :)
go to the match making tab in game and hit the check for file or download replay button.
EspritFort
01-23-2010, 01:41 PM
How do I download my replays? And do I also need to log in to HoN before I can see the replays? @.@ Sorry for being such a noob. :)
And no, once you have the replay, you dont need to be logged on to watch it. Just hit the "View Replay" button in your main menu.
LightRain
01-24-2010, 01:48 AM
The meaning of life is not 42. The Answer to the Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. This is ridiculous, I can't believe you were made a mod.
Drasha
01-24-2010, 02:20 AM
Light_rain i don't know what you're talking about thats clearly the question he asked.
LightRain
01-24-2010, 02:47 AM
That's better.
QuaD_33a
01-24-2010, 05:04 AM
How can i see how much ive played each hero? Some statistits place or somethin?
Drasha
01-24-2010, 05:31 AM
left click your name its right over here
<----
go down to the view game statistic button and click on it
go to the bottom of the page that takes you to and click on the switch to detailed statistics button
you will see a red 330 showing the number of matches you played click on that
pop up will show you what heroes you spend the most time on
kimimaru`
01-24-2010, 09:18 AM
Kewll, thanks for the answers mods, you're the best. :smile:
simmoaus
01-24-2010, 09:49 AM
i share my computer with my brother. we have two seperate hon accounts, is it 30 dollars each to pre purchase? or 30 for both?
EspritFort
01-24-2010, 10:00 AM
i share my computer with my brother. we have two seperate hon accounts, is it 30 dollars each to pre purchase? or 30 for both?
One account - 30$
Unless you intend to share one prepurchased account you'll have to pay 60$.
NoxMortem
01-25-2010, 08:31 AM
Will the price rise when the game is released?
SolidStroke
01-25-2010, 11:13 AM
Will the price rise when the game is released?
No..
Crashh
01-25-2010, 02:22 PM
In what case would you want to pick pyromancer over witchslayer?
I don't noticed much difference besides Witch has a mana steal, and a easier set up for his stun... He just seems in general a much more useful pick
Drasha
01-25-2010, 03:30 PM
In what case would you want to pick pyromancer over witchslayer?
I don't noticed much difference besides Witch has a mana steal, and a easier set up for his stun... He just seems in general a much more useful pick
there is a lot of over lap in their roles how ever with the coming change to pyromancer i would pick him when your team is going to focus a little more on pushing. pyro also is the more traditional lane mate with single target stun heroes who can set up his stun.
naMskaL
01-25-2010, 06:26 PM
i've pre-purchased an account. how do you use the automatic warning message when a rune is about to respawn and such... thanks
EspritFort
01-25-2010, 06:48 PM
i've pre-purchased an account. how do you use the automatic warning message when a rune is about to respawn and such... thanks
This is not a feature of prepurchased accounts, it is a mod everybody can use:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=26400
Mark`
01-26-2010, 02:32 PM
What type of damage do the spirits in Defiler's ultimate do?
Drasha
01-26-2010, 03:23 PM
What type of damage do the spirits in Defiler's ultimate do?
physical
LightRain
01-26-2010, 03:29 PM
What type of damage do the spirits in Defiler's ultimate do?
Physical damage.