Ask a question, get an answer.

[SHJordan]

That's for real! Owned a bunch with MoB on him! =D

[Taffer]

Agreed with the above, just rush radiance with BH.

[Blaat]

After your MoB, agility items are a good idea. Slash, Wingbow, perhaps Nullfire Blade. buying agility gives you more bonus dmg when using bloodrage on yourself, the 80% dmg is only for base dmg + primary attribute, so agility

[Persiatic]

what are good ways to counter Devourer? Any tips on hereos, items, playstyles?

[Taffer]

what are good ways to counter Devourer? Any tips on hereos, items, playstyles?

By far the best counter to Devourer is map awareness. Know where he is, where he goes, look at the minimap constantly, place wards, and the devourer's effectiveness will drop ten-fold.

[SHJordan]

By far the best counter to Devourer is map awareness. Know where he is, where he goes, look at the minimap constantly, place wards, and the devourer's effectiveness will drop ten-fold.

True history, other good way is to silence him when he uses DECAY! =] auto-kill is NICE!

[Persiatic]

By far the best counter to Devourer is map awareness. Know where he is, where he goes, look at the minimap constantly, place wards, and the devourer's effectiveness will drop ten-fold.

Ok but let's say you know he is in the woods and want to go gank him before he gansks you. Do you have to be ranged to do this because if u are melee he will easily ulti + rot + hook you to death. (insane dmg). And spells don't do **** vs him.

Or should you always be more than 1 person when attacking him otherwise run away?

[Taffer]

Ok but let's say you know he is in the woods and want to go gank him before he gansks you. Do you have to be ranged to do this because if u are melee he will easily ulti + rot + hook you to death. (insane dmg). And spells don't do **** vs him.

Or should you always be more than 1 person when attacking him otherwise run away?

The idea is to dodge his hook and damage him before he gets to pull out his combo. If you're ranged just don't stand in one place and zig-zag when you try to retreat, when he backs off attack him etc.

For example you can kite him around creeps with arachna and there's not much he can do.

If he's already damaged and you're not, he loses the benefit of decay (which in a 1v1 situation benefits the hero who has more health or more magical resistance).

If you're 2v2 against pudge in a lane and he starts walking into you with decay and a teammate, turn around, stun/disable him and start attacking. He is relying on you to run away while he keeps hitting you and running after you while you're slowed down, if you both turn around and attack him he will suffer the bad-side effect of decay to the fullest. Just don't do this all the time, it takes experience to know when you can do this and not (depending on you, your partner and his partner).

[Persiatic]

Thanks for all the tips

[themacs]

can no one help me? please!

[Conceptor]

EDIT: NVM.

[Chillaxed]

I wanted to read through all of this before i posted but its 38 pages so forgive me if this has already been answered!

Does Elder Parasite stack with malikens sword? I have been item building as follows

steam boots
elder
Insanitarius
are my core then depending on the game
shield breaker
beh heart
mock of briliance

what do people think of this? I know there are other ways to play but im just wondering how this fairs with most people who play maliken

also any progress on item dis assembly? thanksThose items sound ok although I personally dislike Elder Parasite, because he does not have the HP to support it in my opinion. That might have changed now with the armor buff after casting Posession but I doubt it. Insanitarius is a great item on any Str-Carry so that sounds great. Maybe a Bracelet or 2 and while Steamboots are ok, I'd consider Enhanced Machers since he IS a carry. But the boots choice is really up to you, both are fine. Maybe build Whispering Helm instead of Elder Parasite and turn it into a Symbol of Rage after you got Insanitarius.

[Mav3rick01]

how do i quit a clan?

[Puchi]

how do i quit a clan?

/clan quit

[Kitad1]

How viable is mid madman?

[NGUNS]

Will HON be released on Steam?! And if yes, will preorder also be available?!

[WhySoCry]

How are we able to host the test map?

[Junebug]

What is the proper way to use Insanitarius? It's a core item for some heroes, but I'm afraid to touch it even though it's a great item.

[JewishNinja]

turn it on at the right time (1-2 seconds early is fine) .

autoattack.
turn it off at the right time.
if its been 10 seconds double tap the key to get to 450 hp if need be

[dune]

1) See enemy
2) Activate Insanitarius
3) Attack enemy until: (i) You die, (ii) He dies, (iii) You retreat, (iv) He retreats.
4) If more enemies are in sight, go to step 3.
5) Deactivate Insanitarius.

:)

[Ubiquity111]

just a quick question about armadons spine burst
it's says 20 damage and a "30 damage" debuff

what does the "30 damage" mean ?
dot ?
extra damage on attack ?

I'm not sure exactly it seems a bit ambiguous (maybe I'm just over thinking the obvious ?)

[Ranx]

just a quick question about armadons spine burst
it's says 20 damage and a "30 damage" debuff

what does the "30 damage" mean ?
dot ?
extra damage on attack ?

I'm not sure exactly it seems a bit ambiguous (maybe I'm just over thinking the obvious ?)

It means the next Spine burst deals 30 extra dmg (whilst the debuff is active on the target).

[sell0r]

How many Gold do you you loose when you die? Is it an absolut value oder a prozentual value?

[Ranx]

How many Gold do you you loose when you die? Is it an absolut value oder a prozentual value?

Depends on level and whether or not you're on a killing streak. Can go frrom ~225 all the way up to ~750. I don't know the exact algorithm, but those 2 are the factors influencing it.

Also, if you have a low amount of gold (say 10 cause you just bought some stuff) you'll only lose that 10 (whilst your opponent does receive a larger amount (say 250). Hence always buy items asap.

[Chillaxed]

Depends on level and whether or not you're on a killing streak. Can go frrom ~225 all the way up to ~750. I don't know the exact algorithm, but those 2 are the factors influencing it.

Also, if you have a low amount of gold (say 10 cause you just bought some stuff) you'll only lose that 10 (whilst your opponent does receive a larger amount (say 250). Hence always buy items asap.As far as I know the calucation is the same it was in DotA until the latters most recent version (6.64), where it was changed (in DotA, not here). If that is the case, your own killing spree has absolutely no influence on the how much gold you lose. If I'm not mistaken (not 100% sure mind you) the formula is simply 35*Level.

[dune]

It's 30*level.

[skoufakos]

How can i invite a friend?? (how can i get invitations )

[Chillaxed]

It's 30*level.Of course. 750 at max level. Cheers. :)

[SolidStroke]

How can i invite a friend?? (how can i get invitations )

They're occasionally given out by the staff. You'll get an email iirc.

[themacs]

Thanks [Vil]Chillaxed (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=159407) for reply i will try that.

Can elder paraside be stacked with barbed armor? Elder paraside is 30% increase on damage received and barbed armor returns 100% of damage to attacker for 5 secs? if so this would be beast on tank

Also does anyone else have a problem with disassembly of items? I can not do it with anything? I read in the new patch that it had been fixed for boots but it just dosent work for me. I have tried clicking draging shouting nothing work! any help would be good!

[dreamex]

Thanks [Vil]Chillaxed (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=159407) for reply i will try that.

Can elder paraside be stacked with barbed armor? Elder paraside is 30% increase on damage received and barbed armor returns 100% of damage to attacker for 5 secs? if so this would be beast on tank

Also does anyone else have a problem with disassembly of items? I can not do it with anything? I read in the new patch that it had been fixed for boots but it just dosent work for me. I have tried clicking draging shouting nothing work! any help would be good!

I dunno if it works for boots yet but it does for other items.

1. Put item in stash
2. Left click item
3. Profit.

You can only disassemble items that do NOT require recipes to complete.

[themacs]

cool do you know about the stack? thanks

[Slatox]

Does Runed Axe synergise with Panda's Flurry ability? For example, if you flurry 3 targets, will the splash damage spread between the three of them, making them take x1.8 dmg (40% splash x 2) or does it only work with auto attack?

[kazokazo]

I got 2 questions
Will it take long for the next patch?
And..
When will the next patch come out?

[Cornballer]

I have 2 questions.
1) Everyone says that to be a half-decent Arachna player, you have to know how to orbwalk. What's orbwalking?

2) What does omw mean?

[gungan]

orbwalking is when you use a single targetting skill such as arachnas slow on another hero. The difference between this and attacking is that it doesn't draw creep aggro which allows you to attack without getting hit. So basically yes you have to know how to orbwalk.

You follow the other hero and only attack with the skill which is very effective.

omw = on my way?

[Kaee]

orbwalking in depth is basically Click/press the picture/hotkey and click the enemy hero , then run up abit , and repeat , the aim is to keep up with your enemy , so what your effectively doing is scaring the enemy.

orbwalk kill a newer player a few times :D watch how scared he gets for the rest of the game
__

OWM = On My Way

[SHJordan]

OWM = On My Way

/facepalm

[themacs]

Can elder paraside be stacked with barbed armor? Elder paraside is 30% increase on damage received and barbed armor returns 100% of damage to attacker for 5 secs? if so this would be beast on tank

[SHJordan]

You will return 100% of the damage RECEIVED... not dealt.

[dEph_]

I just need a clarification on how armor works in HoN.
Is it literally 1 armor "absorbs" 1 dmg? So ie, if a skill puts -12 armor on a hero, they are taking 12 more dmg? Or is it different?
Thanks for the help guys! Also, is it the same with magic armor?

[themacs]

You will return 100% of the damage RECEIVED... not dealt.


Yes I know i understand how barbed works but does that mean with elder paradside turned on (which increase damage RECEIVED by 30%) I will deal back all the extra damage I receive back to them I will be dealing back 130% of damage, since im receiving 30% extra damage.

[sHoWTiMe]

Does nullfire blade (the active) remove hammerstorm's ult?

[caveviS]

Does nullfire blade (the active) remove hammerstorm's ult?

Yes, among many other things.

[Kitad1]

I have a question about jereziah.

Charm states it makes you magic immune(to both friendly and enemy magic) and it removes debuffs. However, does it remove buffs?

Example 1, if you have been buffed by an active ability such as Demented Shaman's Hide or Plague Rider's shield, does casting charm on top dispells such effects. If you cast Ulti then charm, will the charm negate the ulti?

Example 2, regarding passive auras, I assume that casting charm on a player will remove the negative auras such as SS's armor debuff, MoB or Reaper's damage. However, does it remove positive auras such as Abyssal Skull or Moon Queen dmg buff?

[SHJordan]

I think it just removes only the debuffs.

[themacs]

for those who are interested paraside stacks with barbed armor to deal back 130% damage! also if your playing against thunder and a few of your team mates have barbed armor it will stack against thunders ult! so if you have 3 team mates with it active it deals 3 times the damage back to him!

[SHJordan]

uh... that seems to hurt... xD

[ForTheSwarm]

I just need a clarification on how armor works in HoN.
Is it literally 1 armor "absorbs" 1 dmg? So ie, if a skill puts -12 armor on a hero, they are taking 12 more dmg? Or is it different?
Thanks for the help guys! Also, is it the same with magic armor?

Armor decreases the % of damage you take. It's not a fixed number.
i.e. 5.5 magic armor makes you take 24.8% less magic damage.

[BubbieRub]

I'd like to know how exactly rating works. What determins how much I gain per win, or how much I loose. Also id like to know how I can play with friends on a LAN without rating beeing affected.

[dEph_]

Armor decreases the % of damage you take. It's not a fixed number.
i.e. 5.5 magic armor makes you take 24.8% less magic damage.

Hey thanks man! Good to know, are there any tables or charts that show how it scales?

[WSLaFleur]

I'd like to know how exactly rating works. What determins how much I gain per win, or how much I loose. Also id like to know how I can play with friends on a LAN without rating beeing affected.

Create a game and make sure not to check the "Record Stats" box.

I don't believe the (LAN) or single player modes are functional as of yet, but I am not the authority on such things.

[bartmasta]

whats orbwalking and orb stacking?

[HaltaR]

I have a question... Where is Goblin Techies !?!?!? I miss him so bad in HoN

[Decency]

What is the formula for losing gold when you die?

Or: do you lose more gold if you have more, for example 5000 compared to 1000?

[SolidStroke]

Create a game and make sure not to check the "Record Stats" box.

I don't believe the (LAN) or single player modes are functional as of yet, but I am not the authority on such things.

Stats are always recorded.

[LightRain]

whats orbwalking and orb stacking?
I've heard orbwalking to mean the same thing as attack cancelling (telling your character to move before his attack animation is finished but after the attack has done damage) but according to the previous page in this thread, it really just refers to harassing with an orb skill like Arachna's web (because orb skills don't attract creep aggro. Although you can and should attack cancel when orbwalking to maintain a good position, right?)

I think orbstacking refers to the fact that in HoN, unlike in DOTA, items with 'on attack' triggers can stack their effects, instead of overriding each other. So you can manaburn, bash, and apply broken armour. (Although Frostwolf Skull and Shieldbreaker don't work together. @better player, did I get that right? :P)

[ElvenSavior]

How much does Frostwolf Skull slow an opponent? Is it like 50%? I never see this listed anywhere, and I've looked. So anyone who knows, please share. Also, it DOES slow them on every attack since it's an attack modifier right?

[sHoWTiMe]

Does frostwolf skull work with maliken's enchanted flames/ult?

[Stahl2]

Does frostwolf skull work with maliken's enchanted flames/ult?


Yes. But the Frost will not splash in the ulti, only hit the main target.

[DjaAkh]

Hi,
I wondered, if there are plans to make it possible for hosts to adjust the game speed. In my opinion the game speed is a little high. It's way higher than Dota or LoL and a little bit less would be cool, at least for "beginners" :) More experienced players may like to play it even faster.

[oReaper]

I had a quick question even though i know its somewhere on the forums.Does anybody know the link to the post where it shows you how to place wards? it be a great help so i dont noob it up with them :p

[RagePolice]

too lazy to sort through 41 pages and search didn't tell me what i wanted to know

my question is, are orbs in HoN the same as in dota? can you still usually only get one orb? Do skills like bounce attack (if moonqueen still has bounce attack) count as an orb? Are there orbs that you can still stack, such as lifesteal+bounce for moon queen or lifesteal + bounce for ranged? And while i'm at it, can you stack bash on top of chronos passive bash?

[Zonda333]

If you attack an enemy held by succubus's stun (not ult) does it transfer to you if its with a spell? What about with AoE spell?

[LightRain]

@phrex: orbs stack, except that Frostwolf Skull and Shieldbreaker don't stack with each other, and two of the same orb won't stack. (also uh, lifesteal aura stacks with lifesteal orb)
It's closer to the beams in Super Metroid than the orbs in DOTA :)

[King_Fear]

If you attack an enemy held by succubus's stun (not ult) does it transfer to you if its with a spell? What about with AoE spell?

No. Damage spells simply dispel Mesmerize, without transfering it to the caster.

[Boterbal]

I'd like to knowsome stuff about Sand Wraith's Mirages.
How is their damage done calculated (compared to the original SW), and is it true that they only get stronger with +Agi items, but not +direct damage items ?

Oh and how do effects like Frostwolf Skull work on them, do all item effects transfer to the Mirages too ?

[dreamex]

I'd like to knowsome stuff about Sand Wraith's Mirages.
How is their damage done calculated (compared to the original SW), and is it true that they only get stronger with +Agi items, but not +direct damage items ?

Oh and how do effects like Frostwolf Skull work on them, do all item effects transfer to the Mirages too ?

All modifiers are transferred to your images (Mana Burn, Lifesteal, Frostwolf etc). This includes Deserted's bonus armor ignoring damage

Mirage Images deal 40% of your total base damage (damage through Agility benefits and any modifiers or bonuses like Abyssal Skull, Andromeda, Etc) and receive 200% Damage, have base 400 movespeed and attack only it's paired target.

Mirage Images cannot Disperse damage through Dissipation though they will activate auras like Demonic Breastplate or Mock of Brilliance.

[Kitad1]

How competitive was Siren in DoTA? was she a high tier pick? Because I've been thinking and it seems like a really good ganker-carry pusher(a interesting combination we don't have here) I would love to play and lane with my bro demented shaman

[dreamex]

How competitive was Siren in DoTA? was she a high tier pick? Because I've been thinking and it seems like a really good ganker-carry pusher(a interesting combination we don't have here) I would love to play and lane with my bro demented shaman

She is a good pick, but her early game is quite limited as all of her skills scale with her stats.

The problem is that she doesn't contribute enough in an aggressive lane with an aggressive partner but feels really confined in a babysitter lane because her Net was one of the best ranged disables.

[Kitad1]

She is a good pick, but her early game is quite limited as all of her skills scale with her stats.

The problem is that she doesn't contribute enough in an aggressive lane with an aggressive partner but feels really confined in a babysitter lane because her Net was one of the best ranged disables.


well Im actually thinking that Net -> Mirror image -> healing wave -> demented stun is actually pretty ****ing aggresive

[Stalias]

Pebble Problems:
I usually play a melee carry in 5v5s. I have a problem against pebbles. I don't think i've won a match if the other team has pebbles since two patches ago. Early game his toss + a partners stun will kill me. Mid game his stun + his toss will kill me. I don't really have a problem with him endgame, but he is still annoying. Any suggestions?

[Ranx]

Pebble Problems:
I usually play a melee carry in 5v5s. I have a problem against pebbles. I don't think i've won a match if the other team has pebbles since two patches ago. Early game his toss + a partners stun will kill me. Mid game his stun + his toss will kill me. I don't really have a problem with him endgame, but he is still annoying. Any suggestions?

Laning against a good Pebbles is always tricky, but he can't perform his combo that often (mana issues). Early game I suggest a proper babysitter, such as Shaman with a heal, slow, 50% reduced dmg on call and good range. Laning against for instance Pebbles/Andromeda ia quite hard as a melee carry, but as said, try to have a proper babysitter so that every time that they engage they're afraid of their own life as well. 200+200 (thinking lvl4-6) shouldn't instantly kill you, so they have to get in a few hits as well. Be sure to have your courier bring you a steady supply of Runes/Pots and you should do oke.

As for mid game, it's fun to own with Pebbles with Blink-autohit-Toss-Avalanche-autohit. The only way to avoid this is by having proper wards setup and farming a Shrunken Head asap. Thing with Tiny is, is that he loses quite some of his effectiveness lategame. Unless you've allowed him to farm up Breastplate, dmg items and god forbid, a Codex (funfunfun in pubs :D)...

[sHoWTiMe]

Is there any specific reason behind frostwolf skull's effect not stacking with shieldbreaker?

[laserblade]

Is there any specific reason behind frostwolf skull's effect not stacking with shieldbreaker?
I believe Frostwolf and Shieldbreaker are attack modifiers so therefore, you have to choose one attack modifier.

[laserblade]

Does Riftshard's stack with Madman's and Swiftblade's passive? If yes, how so? Does it add percentage and the multiplier?

[King_Fear]

Does Riftshard's stack with Madman's and Swiftblade's passive? If yes, how so? Does it add percentage and the multiplier?

Assuming it follows DotA, both crits have a separate chance to proc, but they can't proc at the same time. If they do proc at the same time, one of them overwrites the other.

[dreamex]

Assuming it follows DotA, both crits have a separate chance to proc, but they can't proc at the same time. If they do proc at the same time, one of them overwrites the other.

I believe in HoN the higher multiplier overrides. Unlike in DotA, where the latest acquired multiplier overrides.

[Work4TheMan]

woops asked a Q that wasn't mean for this thread, the next one is though,

will the basher continue working for heroes such as scout, since disarm is a semi-stun as well and, if I'm not mistaken, the pestilence and chronos can't build a basher. It seems unfair to let scout have such a weird disable streak.

[Emppu]

Will you make Goblin Techies as in DOTA? it would be great >:D

[Kalzari]

I got a problem.. i got Dota icons, and since new patch i can't buy any recepies of boots and butterfly and some items don't go together.. (stack)

i've dowloaded updated dota icons but still i can't do it in game...
someone help me. Thanks already.

[sHoWTiMe]

I just played a game. I got my very first annihilation with puppet master! A true 5v1. Since I forgot to take a screenshot, is it possible to watch the replay (if ever) ?

[LightRain]

Eventually, yes. Did you save the match number? (If not, I think we will get a way to view our past matches and search them, but it's easier to find if you have the match number)

[SHJordan]

See the match number of it on the post match results screen.

[summ1else]

The reasons frostwolf skull and shieldbreaker don't stack has more to do with placing a debuff on the enemy than with modifying your attack. With items such as lifesteal, and manaburn, the effects are instant. You gain the lifesteal on that attack, or burn a specific amount of mana on that attack. For the items you're talking about, the effect caused lasts on the enemy for a specific amount of time. In order to prevent abuse, the effects are disallowed to stack debuffs on your opponent. Ask again if you need more clarification.

Riftshards stacks with scout's bonus damage and puppet masters bonus damage. Crits do not stack with crits (i.e. scout and puppet's skills imply % bonuses, not crits). In dota if both crits on a hero were to happen at once, both numbers would show overhead in red, and only the largest would take effect. I believe in HoN only the largest takes effect, without seeing both numbers to avoid confusion.

S2 has stated that all previous games will be available for lookup and replay download in the future.

[Krushhhhh]

okay its a noob here, but how do I share items with my teammates?

Several games ppl have given me items and I can use them, but everytime I give an item to someone it say its locked and unable to be used.

A couple ppl told me to right-click and then left-click on hero to give them the item, but its still locked.

so the real question is how do I unlock the items for others?

[sidsavierre]

how to counter lategame maliken?

he really can turn the tide of battle single-handedly

damn this.

[sHoWTiMe]

Eventually, yes. Did you save the match number? (If not, I think we will get a way to view our past matches and search them, but it's easier to find if you have the match number)

Yes I have the matchnumber. Thanks the help everybody. This made me happy :)

[Kitad1]

is deatchmatch a working game type? I tried it a couple of patches ago and it seemed like an standard game at all, thought it was still needing to be implemented

so what is it and is it working? or did they just forgot to remove it and plan to add it later?

[sHoWTiMe]

I think they have yet to implement it.

[SentrySteve1]

I often see early, mid, and late game referenced. When are these times? Is early game over by 15 mins, etc or can the early/mid/late times be pushed forward due to increased gold from towers/ganks?

[Disappoint]

how to counter lategame maliken?

he really can turn the tide of battle single-handedly

damn this.

The best way to counter maliken is to stop him from being able to auto attack. This makes characters such as scout who can disarm him rather effective. Besides that there isn't really anything you can do to counter him. Hes rather over powered.

[GBKrustStyle]

What does staff of the masters do for each hero that can use it?

[ucyimDaRuler]

This may have already been asked but my search didn't find anything.

How is the K : D Ratio calculated?

Before Game A Stats:
105/92/180 -- K/D/A respectively

Before Game A, K : D Ratio was:
1/1/1

After Game A while adding:
22/1/9 -- K/D/A respectively

The new K : D Ratio result:
1/4/1

What in the heck do you guys use to calculate this?

[DreadTalon]

Is it possible to dissemble items yet? I have noticed an area that appears related near the stash, however, I have never been able to drop items in it or use it to any capacity?

[Ranx]

I often see early, mid, and late game referenced. When are these times? Is early game over by 15 mins, etc or can the early/mid/late times be pushed forward due to increased gold from towers/ganks?

Early game is generally referred to as the 'laning' phase - lvl 1 to ~8/10.
Mid game is then the middle part, where people leave/swap their lanes excessively in order to gank or push, say lvl ~8/10 to ~17/19.
Late game is (generally) when all tier 2 towers are down and most heroes have their core/luxury items.

Obviously sometimes a game ends when heroes are lvl 10 or in 20 minutes due to bad/very good play/outpicked etc, but in a normal game these are generally the markers.



What does staff of the masters do for each hero that can use it?

http://honwiki.net/wiki/Staff_of_the_Master




How is the K : D Ratio calculated?

What in the heck do you guys use to calculate this?

You're confusing 2 different things -> the K : D ratio only has 2 numbers, the kills and deaths. The K / D / A ratio is an average ratio of the amount of kills, deaths AND assists per game.

The K : D ratio is calculated by measuring how many kills you made in respect to how many deaths. For example, if you had 50 kills and 20 deaths you have a K : D ratio of 50 : 20 -> 2.5 : 1

The K / D / A ratio falls under the header 'Average Game Statistics'. Meaning you take all your kills, all your deaths and all your assists, divide them by the amount of games played and voila, you have the average amount of kills, deaths and assists per game.

[McLaggin]

If you time it right, can you use krakens ulti in base, then get teleported by nymphora to the middle of the enemies, then teleport all the enemies to the base? (note, does not have to be the base, could be anywhere on the map.)

[arcainic]

To dissemble items, first it needs to be an item that does not require a recipe, next you need to place it in your stash and right click the item. they fixed it so kraken can't ult in base anymore or in trees, and there's like a 2500 range on his ult i think.

[McLaggin]

To dissemble items, first it needs to be an item that does not require a recipe, next you need to place it in your stash and right click the item. they fixed it so kraken can't ult in base anymore or in trees, and there's like a 2500 range on his ult i think.

I know its just the fountain, not the actual base, but just was wondering about the range. Thanks for answering.

[sHoWTiMe]

How many more heroes will be released? I counted the empty squares which is five, but isn't this a lot less than in dota? Will more heroes be implemented after time?

Since people always like refreshing things, new heroes now and then would be awesome.

[LightRain]

They can add more slots for heroes very easily if they want to, so who knows?

[Santa]

Which hero is the best tank or has the best potential to become a pure tank? I'm talking 100% tank, no damage build items at all.

[Ranx]

Which hero is the best tank or has the best potential to become a pure tank? I'm talking 100% tank, no damage build items at all.

Legionaire.

[Kitad1]

Which hero is the best tank or has the best potential to become a pure tank? I'm talking 100% tank, no damage build items at all.

Electrician has the natural ability to tank the best, and he has the easiest times getting items that allow him to tank effectively. And his grip makes the enemy impossible to ignore him.

Legionare is the other best tank IMO

[BlackSun23]

whatever happened to nomad?
saw him in honwiki

[BigHustles]

What the heck is APM? is it attacks per min or something?

[Decency]

What is the formula for losing gold when you die?

Or: do you lose more gold if you have more, for example 5000 compared to 1000?

[SolidStroke]

What the heck is APM? is it attacks per min or something?

Actions per minute.
Actions are stuff you do with your keyboard/mouse.
Right-clicking = action
Your character attacking = not an action

[AYCARAMBA]

here goes: how do i make proper use of a chicken/crow, having the issue that it won't automatically have the item after purchase, making me select my stash etc. this makes me miss exp/gold so i might as well not use it.

[jar]

here goes: how do i make proper use of a chicken/crow, having the issue that it won't automatically have the item after purchase, making me select my stash etc. this makes me miss exp/gold so i might as well not use it.

quite untrue


at the start of the match, "bind" your hero (select your hero and press Ctrl + 1-9 - i normally use Ctrl + 1 for my hero) then "bind" the courier (select the courier alone and press Ctrl +1-9 - i normally use Ctrl + 4). You can then double tap either 1 or 4 to center your screen on your hero or the courier.

You really don't even need to double tap though, for instance, I'm in my lane last hitting and i am now at 600 gold. I want to buy a bottle so I press, 4, B, R, R, E, Shift+R, 1. I would add a "Q" in between the 2nd R and the E if I had a flying courier. Those sequence of keys will buy the bottle with the courier (not put the bottle in my stash) and will cause the courier to begin bringing the bottle to me (then return immediately to the fountain after it drops the bottle off). You can press all these keys in roughly one second if you're fast. Using the courier just takes a very small amount of practice in a practice mode game, or just familiarizing yourself with the controls before the laning phase starts in a game.

[AYCARAMBA]

quite untrue


at the start of the match, "bind" your hero (select your hero and press Ctrl + 1-9 - i normally use Ctrl + 1 for my hero) then "bind" the courier (select the courier alone and press Ctrl +1-9 - i normally use Ctrl + 4). You can then double tap either 1 or 4 to center your screen on your hero or the courier.

You really don't even need to double tap though, for instance, I'm in my lane last hitting and i am now at 600 gold. I want to buy a bottle so I press, 4, B, R, R, E, Shift+R, 1. I would add a "Q" in between the 2nd R and the E if I had a flying courier. Those sequence of keys will buy the bottle with the courier (not put the bottle in my stash) and will cause the courier to begin bringing the bottle to me (then return immediately to the fountain after it drops the bottle off). You can press all these keys in roughly one second if you're fast. Using the courier just takes a very small amount of practice in a practice mode game, or just familiarizing yourself with the controls before the laning phase starts in a game.

tl;dr i need to select my crow/chicken before buying stuff, thanks a bunch lol.

[Kyrasis]

tl;dr i need to select my crow/chicken before buying stuff, thanks a bunch lol.

If it's helpful, couriers are always automatically bound to the ` or ~ key. You can open the shops by clicking on your gold and buy items without looking away from the lane.

[SolidStroke]

If it's helpful, couriers are always automatically bound to the ` or ~ key. You can open the shops by clicking on your gold and buy items without looking away from the lane.

Units you can control scroll using the ` key. So if someone shares their characters, or they also have a courrier, you will have to constantly press ` to go through them.

[Kitad1]

Good lane partners for jereziah?

[Raziel_Blaze]

If abyssal skull stacks with life steal items, if everyone on the team got an abyssal skull would you get 75 life steal?

[SHJordan]

No. Life Steal DO NOT stack.

[Pizoi]

No. Life Steal DO NOT stack.

Either you worded this wrong, or you just don't know the real answer. There are two different forms of Life Steal.

The Abyssal Skull, which gives an aura that has 15% Life Stealing. This will stack with an Exclusive Modifier Life Steal, which you get from: Hungry Spirit, Whispering Helm, Elder Parasite, or Symbol of Rage. You can only have 1 of each type.

Say you had an Abyssal Skull (15%), and a Symbol of Rage (25%), those would stack. If you had 2 Abyssal Skulls, you would only get the effects of 1 of them. Same goes if you had 2 Whispering Helms.

[SHJordan]

Sure??? I really thought that they do not really stacks... so if i'm using abyssawhispering helm do i get 30% lifesteal?

[Cesa]

Someone know a good programm too save a h0n game and then cut it to a movie ?:) and you asked for a good lane partner fpr jeraziah i think madman would be nice or electrician madmann goes invis stun heal from jere and 1 down :>

[Pizoi]

Sure??? I really thought that they do not really stacks... so if i'm using abyssawhispering helm do i get 30% lifesteal?

Yes, they will stack.

[DragNight]

I have a question: Which hero(s) are the easiest to use? I've been having tons of ditchers on my teams and i keep losing as a result. :( Now I have low stats and and I need to find a way to bring it back up.

[Ranx]

I have a question: Which hero(s) are the easiest to use? I've been having tons of ditchers on my teams and i keep losing as a result. :( Now I have low stats and and I need to find a way to bring it back up.

Arachna, Night Hound, Accursed; there are several rightclick ones.

[sHoWTiMe]

Does the buff of charged hammer stack with the original 20 percent to proc chain lightning?

edit: just read that you can proc lightning when you get attacked

[smedman]

hey!
What's the command to do the "Missing from Mid Lane"-message in game? with the word "mid" - in this case beeing - green.

[SHJordan]

It is a MOD. No commands for that.

[sHoWTiMe]

I recently prepurchased HoN because it is plain awesome. *High five guys*

But I forgot where to ask to change your name/change your preserved name, and because there probably is a general thread for it, I don't want to embarras myself by creating a whole new thread.

Thanks in advance.

[Kitad1]

Good lane partners for jereziah?

:confused:

[Charging_in]

good lane partners for jereziah include madman and scout for the invis/heal combo. or electrician and pollywog for hold/heal.
for the invis/heal u simply have ur ally stand next to them and atk the enemy after u heal, surprising the enemy into immediately retreating rather than fighting back.
the hold heal combo is strong too, tho when facing characters that could break the hold with a stun u need to target that character

[Kitad1]

good lane partners for jereziah include madman and scout for the invis/heal combo. or electrician and pollywog for hold/heal.
for the invis/heal u simply have ur ally stand next to them and atk the enemy after u heal, surprising the enemy into immediately retreating rather than fighting back.
the hold heal combo is strong too, tho when facing characters that could break the hold with a stun u need to target that character

Scout, madman or electrician sound like bad lanes because they are dual melee, sure you are gonna get some damage with the combo once or twice(rarely killing someone), but the rest of the time you are gonna get outcreeped, outdenied and harrassed. Sure, its a huge combo mid game, but im asking who he should be laning with

As for Pollywog, not a terrible lane, not a particularly strong one IMO, but at least you get 2 good heroes on a lane that's hard to gank early

what about arachna?

[LightRain]

Puppet Master too.

[Spaztick]

So I've browsed around and I haven't found a guide for what would be considered higher levels of play. I've learned and read up on the basics and the little ins and outs of early laning (last hit/denying to creep pulling from the jungle to keep the lane from being pushed), and mid to late game seems to be pretty self explanatory, but haven't found a real comprehensive guide for "higher" levels of play. At best I'm starting to refine how I play certain heroes and how to cooperate with my teammates so we get a good hero lineup that works well together. Perhaps it's because I play with all PuGs and just need to find a semi- to competitive clan to start playing games with, but I feel I can't really take my game much further than where I'm at now. What should I do or where should I go to get better?

[Ranx]

Once you have your own play under control, start thinking about the game as a whole - think line ups, and counters to them; think lane combo's and counters; think wards, offensive and defensive; start theorycrafting about items: why is what good on which hero.

Basically start thinking about everything other than your own play. Browse the forums, there are numerous threads regarding the things mentioned.

[Decency]

So I've browsed around and I haven't found a guide for what would be considered higher levels of play. I've learned and read up on the basics and the little ins and outs of early laning (last hit/denying to creep pulling from the jungle to keep the lane from being pushed), and mid to late game seems to be pretty self explanatory, but haven't found a real comprehensive guide for "higher" levels of play. At best I'm starting to refine how I play certain heroes and how to cooperate with my teammates so we get a good hero lineup that works well together. Perhaps it's because I play with all PuGs and just need to find a semi- to competitive clan to start playing games with, but I feel I can't really take my game much further than where I'm at now. What should I do or where should I go to get better?
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=26774

That's by far the best example of an over-encompassing guide that I've found on these forums. Keep in mind that the Tier list is outdated and many heroes have been nerfed or buffed, but the synergy and laning comments are still very insightful.

[Nzzdlz]

Does attack modifiers stack in HON cause it seemed to ?

[Nyuhafu]

can you refresh krobolus' ult in this, to stack ghosts?

do they tp with you?

[LightRain]

Does attack modifiers stack in HON cause it seemed to ?
yes (but frostwolf skull and shieldbreaker don't stack with each other. and multiple of the same modifier don't stack. lifesteal doesn't stack, except the lifesteal you get from the aura item (abyssal skull) stacks with other lifesteal effects (but not with other abyssal skull auras, so don't get more than one per team ))

[headiePANDA]

Anyone have suggestions for good heroes to combo/lane with accursed?

[SHJordan]

I think anyone with low mdef or slow/bash/entangle skills would be great with him.

[Lolcraft]

Does anyone know where to find replays? It's grayed out to me, and when I press the "Play Beta" button and log in, the top buttons change.

[oXi]

does anybody knows if it will be support on steam ? and if ill pre-ored i can activate after on steam ?

[sHoWTiMe]

How do I calculate how much IAS a hero gets by getting +30 agi?

[Pizoi]

Let's assume that x = agility, and y = attack speed. Bust out a calculator and punch this in: x + 0 = y. Viola!

[LightRain]

does anybody knows if it will be support on steam ? and if ill pre-ored i can activate after on steam ?
You can add games you didn't buy from steam onto steam so you can play them and have the steam community overlay work.
(But I don't know whether it will be sold on steam or not.)

[sHoWTiMe]

Let's assume that x = agility, and y = attack speed. Bust out a calculator and punch this in: x + 0 = y. Viola!
lol :D thanks.

[Buckwild]

At what level and with what items can/should Warbeast do Kongor in a non-em game?

[Psykosocial]

Is there any way to keep the hover info displayed over characters at all times. Like their name and level and such. I went to the options but the Display Hover Info option is greyed out. Just noticed this is the strategy forum......yeah.

[Goaky]

Are they implementing bots for HoN? I really enjoy playing against bots if i wanna try out a new hero without getting pwned in an AP pub game. Practice games are really ass for that, as i can only play one person.

[sHoWTiMe]

At what level and with what items can/should Warbeast do Kongor in a non-em game?

lvl 8, need abyssal that's it.

[Sagat]

2v2 all lanes forests of caldavar

they draft scout and pestilence

of course, there's many viable counters but I'm the guy that doesn't like taking risks.

[vitality]

Sorry wrong thread xD

[RTBardic]

Now that Barbed Armor does true damage, are there any heroes that it works well on? I've been using it with demented shaman to varying degrees of success -- it gives him +int, +damage, survivability, and a reason to not target him first with pyro ult etc.

I'd think Accursed could use it well also, increasing the period of time you shouldn't hit him.

Any thoughts from better players than myself?

[lcite]

its pretty insane on Hellbringer, use his void skill and you get healed for all the damage you reflect!

[laserblade]

Can magic immunity be debuff'd?

[Skaaar]

How do i share a monkey courier with my teammates??? Didn´t find the button or the control for that.

[Ranx]

How do i share a monkey courier with my teammates??? Didn´t find the button or the control for that.

Top right ingame "Menu"

There are white boxes next to each player tagged "Courier". Click them.

[Skaaar]

how do i use bottle on runes???

[Ranx]

how do i use bottle on runes???
Empty your bottle, using it again will give you the option to select a rune. Click one and its bottled. If you click a bottled rune it'll become active also leaving you with a full bottle.

[Vormspire]

How do you get in game colored text !!

[Pressthepig]

Use ^xxx The x's are numbers 0-9 that represent RedGreenBlue.
Or you can use ^r (red) ^c (cyan) ^g (green) and so on.

Does Swiftblade's Counterattack skill work on ranged heroes?

[Eggy_JS]

Okay, just a short questions, which really concerns me right now: Is backdooring allowed in hon? Some guys said "yeah it's allowed here" while others said, it's not. I don't see the big deal there. If i run all the way to the base and have all the time to kick a tower then the other team is just not clever enough to carry TP's. I guess you really could argue about this, but I'm wondering what's the official statement on backdooring is. Allowed, tolerated?

Hey there, my question is: What are the new arrows next to your teamates portrait in the top left, as you can click on the button changing the <- -> to either the color green/neutral/ or orange?

[huY]

Okay, just a short questions, which really concerns me right now: Is backdooring allowed in hon? Some guys said "yeah it's allowed here" while others said, it's not. I don't see the big deal there. If i run all the way to the base and have all the time to kick a tower then the other team is just not clever enough to carry TP's. I guess you really could argue about this, but I'm wondering what's the official statement on backdooring is. Allowed, tolerated?

It depends on people but personally I don't care about BD. If your playing a serious game just ask everyone in the room about it.


How do you get in game colored text !!


Simple just do ^ and put 3 digit after it and your text will be in color.

In example, if you do "^300" it will make whatever you type after "^300" will be in red.


Use ^xxx The x's are numbers 0-9 that represent RedGreenBlue.
Or you can use ^r (red) ^c (cyan) ^g (green) and so on.

Does Swiftblade's Counterattack skill work on ranged heroes?

AFAIK, it doesn't work against ranged heroes/creeps.

[Pizoi]

Okay, just a short questions, which really concerns me right now: Is backdooring allowed in hon? Some guys said "yeah it's allowed here" while others said, it's not. I don't see the big deal there. If i run all the way to the base and have all the time to kick a tower then the other team is just not clever enough to carry TP's. I guess you really could argue about this, but I'm wondering what's the official statement on backdooring is. Allowed, tolerated?

Yes it's allowed, anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is just retarded.

[DamnNewbTeam]

Okay fast question :
when i play sand wraith i asked myself does the thunderclaw or the basher works with my illusions? the mock of brilliance works with the illusion so these 2items shoudl work too?

[zeor7i]

hey pals.. anyone here knows how to change username and password?? email me asap thuglife_3pac@yahoo.com.. thnx

[wese]

Can u bind messages in keys?? Like in cod 4 you just type in console /bind 4 say LOL
but when i tried to do it in hon in form bind <button> <cmd> = bind 4 say LOL it didn't work.

[wese]

Can u bind messages in keys?? Like in cod 4 you just type in console /bind 4 say LOL
but when i tried to do it in hon in form bind <button> <cmd> = bind 4 say LOL it didn't work.
nvm i solved it. right command is "teamchat" not "say"

[crazysheep]

Question: Is it ever viable to get Terrify around level 1-6 for Legionnaire?

[ESMRich]

Question
Shaman's Headdress have 10 magic armor
1 magic armor =?

[Kitad1]

Question: Is it ever viable to get Terrify around level 1-6 for Legionnaire?


viable, well, yes, is it a good choice? well, no

is not that powerful of a harass, and counter-helix is extremely strong early game, and taunt allows you to setup ganks easily

[Kitad1]

Question
Shaman's Headdress have 10 magic armor
1 magic armor =?

is not a linear value, more magic armor will become more % absorbed, you can check out how much exactly when you hover over your armor value in game.

everyone starts with 25%, lets imagine that 10 magic armor makes it 50%, it won't be 75% if you get 20, or 100% if you get 30, always check your values

[Pizoi]

Question: Is it ever viable to get Terrify around level 1-6 for Legionnaire?

It can be viable early game if you have an extremely aggressive lane and don't allow the enemy any creep kills/denies. The problem is it takes a lot of mana, which the Legionnaire doesn't have much of.

[ESMRich]

Question
Shaman's Headdress have 10 magic armor
1 magic armor =?


is not a linear value, more magic armor will become more % absorbed, you can check out how much exactly when you hover over your armor value in game.

everyone starts with 25%, lets imagine that 10 magic armor makes it 50%, it won't be 75% if you get 20, or 100% if you get 30, always check your values

so Arachna can get >100%?

[sHoWTiMe]

If you have a geometer's bane + Hack and slash. Do the movement procent bonuses stack?

[Pizoi]

If you have a geometer's bane + Hack and slash. Do the movement procent bonuses stack?

No. There are 4 different categories of items that will increase your movement speed. Items in the same category will not stack with each other, but the 4 different categories will stack with each other.

1 - Boots (Marchers, Enhanced Marchers, Steamboots, Post Haste)
2 - Slash (Slash, Hack&Slash, Geometers Bane)
3 - Stormspirit
4 - Assassins Shroud (Only while stealthed with it, obviously)

[crazysheep]

Thanks for clearing up Terrify, looks like I'll need to remind players about this ingame. [I don't get Terrify early myself, just saw someone do it]

[sHoWTiMe]

No. There are 4 different categories of items that will increase your movement speed. Items in the same category will not stack with each other, but the 4 different categories will stack with each other.

1 - Boots (Marchers, Enhanced Marchers, Steamboots, Post Haste)
2 - Slash (Slash, Hack&Slash, Geometers Bane)
3 - Stormspirit
4 - Assassins Shroud (Only while stealthed with it, obviously)

Thanks for the explanation. I just saw someone buy both hack and slash as geometer's bane already and I asked him why he bought them and he answered: so I am ultrafast

:D

[gwho1]

How does a Tree played like an assassin and DPS early-mid-game fare?

ElderParasite, enhanced marchers, riftshards.

he's plenty tanky, he can pop out of invisibility. and 5 rapid whaks from his log hurts a lot early on.

[LightRain]

so Arachna can get >100%?
That's specifically what DOESN'T happen.

I can find a chart for magic armour, but this armour chart (http://honwiki.net/wiki/Armor) from honwiki indicates that 5.5 armour lies between 0.23 and 0.26 which seems to indicate it matches armor. So, check that armor chart for the corresponding damage reduction that magic armour gives you.

For instance, 5.5 starting magic armour + 10 from items = 15.5, which is ~0.48 damage reduction. You can always check it in game by going to practice mode, buying the item, and then moving your mouse over your armour icon (next to your character portrait).

[Extreme_Cake]

I know what the good wardspots are, but which ones should I ward and at what points during the game?

[Ranx]

I know what the good wardspots are, but which ones should I ward and at what points during the game?

Early game: Runes + pullspot + defensive woods (optional)
Mid game: Ramps/Runes + centre woods
Late game: Offensive woods + ramps + defensive (optional)

Counterwards esp important early and mid game.

[Extreme_Cake]

Thanks.

[Sagat]

No. There are 4 different categories of items that will increase your movement speed. Items in the same category will not stack with each other, but the 4 different categories will stack with each other.

1 - Boots (Marchers, Enhanced Marchers, Steamboots, Post Haste)
2 - Slash (Slash, Hack&Slash, Geometers Bane)
3 - Stormspirit
4 - Assassins Shroud (Only while stealthed with it, obviously)
and Elder Parasite

[DeathImpact]

are there any ways to reduce the leaver's count? say due time or is it permanent?

[huY]

are there any ways to reduce the leaver's count? say due time or is it permanent?

It's permanent.

[Kitad1]

I know what the good wardspots are, but which ones should I ward and at what points during the game?


Depends on what you are doing, adapt.

If the enemies are remaining on their lanes(early or mid stages of the games depending on what they decide to do), then ward the rune spots so you can gain control and avoid their ganks and create your own.

If the enemies are ganking hard or if you are laning with a carry who is working on getting his items, then ward the woods so you can keep tabs on where they are and counter-gank.

Think their is an enemy jungling? go plant a ward there and prepare a gank to slow him down.

If its late game, then think ahead of what to do and ward smart. Are you gonna attack a tower? then run and try to place a ward ahead and in the flanking positions, as it will allow you to control the battle better and it will make your initiators job a lot easier. Are you defending? then ward the woods and places where the enemy can come from that aren't straight ahead, so you can keep track of where they are gonna come from.
Its also smart to place a ward at kongor as surprising them and then stealing kongor can turn the match in your favor.

Always remember; smart wards win games.

[protoculture]

Best hero to counter Maliken in 1v1? Why?

[Ranx]

Best hero to counter Maliken in 1v1? Why?

Succubus. Because she's arguably the best 1v1 hero.

[Santoriin]

Succubus. Because she's arguably the best 1v1 hero.
polliwog too, the disables arent as strong, but wog pushes much better than succubus

[protoculture]

polliwog too, the disables arent as strong, but wog pushes much better than succubus

Let me rephrase my question: Which character is better for facing off against Maliken in a 1v1 macho showdown? Using something with holds is a little cheap for me (besides I don't want the guy whinging about how he would have beat me if he wasn't held) and I'd like to out-tank/dps/harass this particular opponent.

[mastaKing]

Let me rephrase my question: Which character is better for facing off against Maliken in a 1v1 macho showdown? Using something with holds is a little cheap for me (besides I don't want the guy whinging about how he would have beat me if he wasn't held) and I'd like to out-tank/dps/harass this particular opponent.
both of you pull down your pants and last man standing wins :eek:

[Somnium]

How do I queue portal key after ulti on Magmus?I can't seem to get it to work.

Help would be great <3

[Tamachan]

In the mod's sections there is a mod that shows a channel bar - this should help you perfectly see when to port.

[LightRain]

How do I queue portal key after ulti on Magmus?I can't seem to get it to work.

Help would be great <3
step 1: hit r
step 2: while you're channeling, click the portal key
step 3: still while channeling (so you have a 2-second window to do steps 2 and 3) HOLD SHIFT and click on the spot you want to teleport to.
step 4: roll face on keyboard etc, you should blink in as soon as your ultimate goes off.

[Somnium]

step 1: hit r
step 2: while you're channeling, click the portal key
step 3: still while channeling (so you have a 2-second window to do steps 2 and 3) HOLD SHIFT and click on the spot you want to teleport to.
step 4: roll face on keyboard etc, you should blink in as soon as your ultimate goes off.

Much appreciated! Works now :D

[Dominare]

Let me rephrase my question: Which character is better for facing off against Maliken in a 1v1 macho showdown?

Use Axe. Maliken is most dangerous when he's almost dead; never let him reach that state by the simple tactic of chopping his ****ing head off.


HTH

[MoOgLeD]

Why does everyone think hack is a bad item? =/

[protoculture]

Use Axe. Maliken is most dangerous when he's almost dead; never let him reach that state by the simple tactic of chopping his ****ing head off.


HTH

Ended up rolling with Predator instead. 11-0.

[Kanonpaul]

Someone already asked this earlier in the thread, but I can't find any response to it.

What does it mean when it says "units affected by Chuck take double the damage" does it mean that when you toss someone who is stunned by chuck they take added damage? is it if you toss someone first, and then stun them that they take added damage?
Or is it none of the above?

[Ranx]

Someone already asked this earlier in the thread, but I can't find any response to it.

What does it mean when it says "units affected by Chuck take double the damage" does it mean that when you toss someone who is stunned by chuck they take added damage? is it if you toss someone first, and then stun them that they take added damage?
Or is it none of the above?

Extremely controversial since its been reported to bug, work wrong, and so on and so on.

The way it's suppose to work is that when someone is chucked and you use stalagmites (the stun) underneath that person, the damage from stalagmites is doubled to that person.

However, it's been reported to work the other way around as well (stun first, then throw -> throw deals double dmg) but this is not as it is intended.

[BigHustles]

Why stack damage instead of agility on an agility hero?

[Ranx]

Why stack damage instead of agility on an agility hero?
This is not something one should always do, but it's quite simple: raw dmg points are cheaper to get than raw agility points.

[Dosx]

Why stack damage instead of agility on an agility hero?

Many beneficial items for agility heroes do not have agility base items in them. Crit, bash, invis, and cleave can all be useful on an agility hero. Calculate the damage increase vs cost and add in the usefulness of the item being considered.

[siefat]

which hero is the best tower pusher

[Pizoi]

Wildsoul is best for pushing towers, Soulstealer for pushing lanes, IMO.

[Godzu]

Which hero is best at 'Cleaning up' after AoEs and such and is actually useful throughout the game? One that can chase when the other team tries to 'b' after a messy teamfight.

I have considered:

Valkyrie
Bloodhunter
Pestilence
Pharaoh (Although typically an initiator, it seems like he would be great for this)

[Pizoi]

Scout is great at that, Madman is pretty good too.

[Godzu]

Scout is great at that, Madman is pretty good too.


Forgot one part!


and is actually useful throughout the game?


Scout doesn't bring any lane synergy really.

I was going to try a theoretical team of


Pest/Shaman Bot

Magmus/Hellbringer Top

Valkyrie Mid


Was wondering if there would be a better replacement for valkyrie or pest.

But I think the team is pretty balanced.

[Pizoi]

Well, I honestly did miss that, but Scout can be somewhat useful early game just by placing eyes at either both rune spots, or one at a rune spot and the other at the enemies neutral camp by their lane to stop them from pulling. But ya, he doesn't really play well with others early game.

[sHoWTiMe]

I have a question concerning chronos about his evasion. How does it work if chronos buys a wingbow? And how does it work if he buys a charged hammer, the charged up effect?

i have problem with my invite... i used 3 invite but only 1 reached the target...
2 invite still not coming to mail... mail of my friend Russia, maybe with this problem?

[LightRain]

I have a question concerning chronos about his evasion. How does it work if chronos buys a wingbow? And how does it work if he buys a charged hammer, the charged up effect?

Chronos doesn't actually have evasion, he has "rewind" which is a chance to cancel damage taken. What this means is, it 'stacks' with Evasion, as from Wingbow. So 0.25 of the time you get attacked, you'll block the damage with Rewind, and 0.30 of the time you get attacked, Wingbow will cause it to miss.
You don't really care if they trigger at the same time. Since 0.70 of the time you're attacked you won't dodge with Wingbow, .25 of that .7 will result in a rewind block. so .3*1 + 1/4*.7 = 47.5% of the time, you'll take no damage attacks.

Rewind doesn't actually dodge attacks, so Charged Hammer's ability won't be useless on Chronos.

[sHoWTiMe]

Chronos doesn't actually have evasion, he has "rewind" which is a chance to cancel damage taken. What this means is, it 'stacks' with Evasion, as from Wingbow. So 0.25 of the time you get attacked, you'll block the damage with Rewind, and 0.30 of the time you get attacked, Wingbow will cause it to miss.
You don't really care if they trigger at the same time. Since 0.70 of the time you're attacked you won't dodge with Wingbow, .25 of that .7 will result in a rewind block. so .3*1 + 1/4*.7 = 47.5% of the time, you'll take no damage attacks.

Rewind doesn't actually dodge attacks, so Charged Hammer's ability won't be useless on Chronos.

Alright, thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Ian_Beale]

What sort of keyboard configuration should I have to be able to use everything quickly? Like make usable inventory items 12345 for example?

[Ranx]

Well, I honestly did miss that, but Scout can be somewhat useful early game just by placing eyes at either both rune spots, or one at a rune spot and the other at the enemies neutral camp by their lane to stop them from pulling. But ya, he doesn't really play well with others early game.

So picking Scout saves you an x amount times 200g. Other than that you're playing 4v5.. Sounds like a thing you def should do! Bet comp play will have more Scouts in them now that we made this calculation!

[Meczor]

How much damage does 1 armor point reduce? I have been thinking about this 4 a while now. I cant really put my finger on it.

[Kitad1]

How much damage does 1 armor point reduce? I have been thinking about this 4 a while now. I cant really put my finger on it.


Well, first of all, its not a number, its a %.
But that % is also not a fixed number in a straight line, its a curve.

Going from 5->6 armor does not block the same damage as going from 22->23 armor

[Godzu]

Well, first of all, its not a number, its a %.
But that % is also not a fixed number in a straight line, its a curve.

Going from 5->6 armor does not block the same damage as going from 22->23 armor

But it's just as effective in terms of EHP ;-)

[JzScAr3Me]

how to see rune in time???because i play game with other people then i see it writing "rune in 5minutes" like that...so how???

[Ranx]

how to see rune in time???because i play game with other people then i see it writing "rune in 5minutes" like that...so how???
A random rune spawns at a random spot (bot river/top river) every 2 minutes, starting at 0:00.

[Meczor]

Well, first of all, its not a number, its a %.
But that % is also not a fixed number in a straight line, its a curve.

Going from 5->6 armor does not block the same damage as going from 22->23 armor
That didn't really help much... thx anyway. I mean is it worth buying armor if ur under a lots of dmg often or is it better to go 4 hp?

i need the basics about armor plx!

[Kitad1]

That didn't really help much... thx anyway. I mean is it worth buying armor if ur under a lots of dmg often or is it better to go 4 hp?

i need the basics about armor plx!


Its hard to give exact numbers but when you are against heavy attack damage, and you need to tank some of their damage, then yeah, its worth it. With some armor items you eventually end up blocking 50% of all incoming damage

test it in practice, buying different armor items and see how much % you end up blocking

[LightRain]

honwiki.net/wiki/Armor

Includesa table and a graph. Enjoy!

[Grimace]

Every point of armor you have means 6% more HP, effectively.

[JoeStalin]

How do you ping on the minimap?

[huY]

How do you ping on the minimap?

Alt-right click.

[LightRain]

Alt-right click.
also, Alt+left click

[Lolololage]

Soul Stealer: What Is the best way to bind your keys for him?

I have problems trying to swap between holding position, "A" Attacking to deny, and his soul burst skills D,F,G

[huY]

Soul Stealer: What Is the best way to bind your keys for him?

I have problems trying to swap between holding position, "A" Attacking to deny, and his soul burst skills D,F,G

I'm using the default one. Q W E for his nuke and R for his ultimate. A for attacking/deny and H for holding position even though I don't use it.

[Extreme_Cake]

What camps, and in what order, do you kill when jungling Ophelia? I'd appreciate a link to a good Chen replay as well, if anyone can find one.

[Blue_Aura]

How do you get in game colored text !!
Type ^ then 3 numbers after,
eg. ^345 or ^777

It also works with a few letters, eg, R (red), B (blue), M (magenta)


A couple of Q's here on chronos's rewind, what are the exact dodge mechanics of it?
Does it actually negate the damage entirely or does it still heal you for the amount damage like in dota?
If you get hit with a stun and your rewind procs, does it dodge the stun entirely or just the damage part of it and you are still stunned?
Can it dodge culling blade?
Does it dodge aoe's like fissure?

Also what is the max range that chronos can drop a chronofield away from himself?

[Puchi]

What sort of keyboard configuration should I have to be able to use everything quickly? Like make usable inventory items 12345 for example?


I can give you a tip on this. I have remaped my controls to be like the ones i hade back in the days of wowplaying, basicaly i have moved the skills to 1234, and i have bound moving the screen to wasd, and i have my inventorybinds on q, e, r, alt+1 and alt+2 (i have Alt+3 bound aswell bu i have never used it. Also i have bound Attack to F and stop to C. if there is a currier in the game i bind it to 5 using ctrl+5.

[alliednoob]

How do I counter Moon Queen, Magebane, and Vindicator while playing as Thunderbringer in middle lane?

[Kitad1]

How do I counter Moon Queen, Magebane, and Vindicator while playing as Thunderbringer in middle lane?

Out-rune them. Magebane would be hard to out-rune but he is very fragile early for your level 3-4 thunder bolts. Vindicator isn't that much of a problem since you can spam skills.

[alliednoob]

yeah but vindicator keeps putting that spell on me that drains mana >.>

[Hemorrhage]

cast a spell and it stops the drain, like when playing against axe and he casts terror on you, you have to kill an enemy to get the drain to stop.

[chilliboi]

Can someone help me with this problem of minez.
im pretty new with the game, and I hope that theres not some SOOO Obvious explanation for this, but if u could help i'd be so happy!

Ok the problem is this:

I have no concede button. i've seen others play and in their menus they have a concede button, i aint got one. and it's pretty anoying, so please if some1 know something, plz tell me!

Thanks from kluck

[shinkyle]

just wondering does lifesteal stack with arachna webshot? assuming the webshot is triggered as auto cast... do they stack? slow and lifesteal enemy hero.. just wondering

[LightRain]

just wondering does lifesteal stack with arachna webshot? assuming the webshot is triggered as auto cast... do they stack? slow and lifesteal enemy hero.. just wondering
all attack modifiers stack, unless they're the same attack modifier. Two Whispering Helms doesn't give you double lifesteal and two Shieldbreakers don't give the opponent -12 armour, but Whispering Helm and Shieldbreaker gives you a -6 armour attack that lifesteals. If you're Arachna, it does -6 armour, lifesteals, and slows.

[huY]

Can someone help me with this problem of minez.
im pretty new with the game, and I hope that theres not some SOOO Obvious explanation for this, but if u could help i'd be so happy!

Ok the problem is this:

I have no concede button. i've seen others play and in their menus they have a concede button, i aint got one. and it's pretty anoying, so please if some1 know something, plz tell me!

Thanks from kluck

The concede button is at the menu(top right corner) while your in-game(while playing a match), it will be grayed out until the 15min mark through.

[MAd_MEdic]

someone might have asked this already
and i did tried to search this thread before posting

u can break down an already made item back to its orginal parts right?
if true how do i do it?

and if u bought the wrong item, how do u get your money back?

[LightRain]

u can break down an already made item back to its orginal parts right?
if true how do i do it?Put the item in your stash and left click on it. This will separate it into base parts. This only works for items that assemble automatically - if the item required a recipe component, it can't be disassembled.


and if u bought the wrong item, how do u get your money back?when you buy an item, for a few seconds you can sell if back at the full price. (I don't remember how long it is exactly). After that, it sells back at half price.
If the item gets formed into a recipe when you buy it, you can't sell that recipe back for full price, and even if you disassemble it, it will still be worth half price (as the game sees it as a new item).

[MAd_MEdic]

thanks!!!

[Dentata]

Ok, so I just played in a game where the entire enemy team got kongor first thing. 3 of them died, but they got him (we prolly could have stopped them, but after the first three died, we were o_O and just thought they were noobs, so didn't go intervene)

But anyways, is that possibly a viable strat? They didn't really fall behind in levels, no gold was given to us, their team got +200 gold each, and someone got a token. Not sure if the ones who died lose money, but they get +200 for the kong kill, so i mean at worst they lose like 35 gold, best case they get +200.

Although they did have a booboo to tank hits, a jeraziah and ds to heal so this might be only viable with the right setup, but still...

What do you guys think?

[MAd_MEdic]

there is a tourney cast posted where a team did that
i believe they won (no 1 died in the attempt)

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=34688

i just know it isnt in one of the HoN league cast
i think is one of the cyber gamer matches

[alliednoob]

um, if I'm fighting blood hunter and I'm thunderbringer, should I run or tp when he's going after me, and should I hide before the fight because he always disables me...

[LightRain]

Ok, so I just played in a game where the entire enemy team got kongor first thing. 3 of them died, but they got him (we prolly could have stopped them, but after the first three died, we were o_O and just thought they were noobs, so didn't go intervene)

But anyways, is that possibly a viable strat? They didn't really fall behind in levels, no gold was given to us, their team got +200 gold each, and someone got a token. Not sure if the ones who died lose money, but they get +200 for the kong kill, so i mean at worst they lose like 35 gold, best case they get +200.

Although they did have a booboo to tank hits, a jeraziah and ds to heal so this might be only viable with the right setup, but still...

What do you guys think?
Best setup is Plague Rider (get level 1 Shield first, Kongor is affected by the attack speed debuff) and Wildsoul. Put the shield on Wildsoul, who tanks. The rest of the lineup is optional but healing helps, Slither is often used because he can spam wards to make it go faster.
You can either all stick around and get level 2-3 (don't remember) plus some gold, then make it to lane (your team should buy up and run straight to him so you're already mostly done by the time the clock hits 0:00 and the creeps/runes spawn), or you can all leave but one, who finishes and hits level 6 off the experience. This guy then runs around ganking lanes, Pebbles, Magmus, Slither, Andromeda, Pharaoh, any specialty ganker will do.

[Skyswimsky]

how can i give another mate a item, not "burrowed"(swwy if thats spelled wrong) or "that item belongs to XXX, effects disabled" cuz i saw often enough that one guy started without items and another with more (and his startgold couldnt support it)

[LightRain]

how can i give another mate a item, not "burrowed"(swwy if thats spelled wrong) or "that item belongs to XXX, effects disabled" cuz i saw often enough that one guy started without items and another with more (and his startgold couldnt support it)
Not all items can be transferred, but in general, consumables can. Runes of Blight, Health/Mana Potions, Bottle, and Wards can all be shared freely with teammates.

[Skyswimsky]

yeah i know, but i mean equip :/