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blowme_
12-21-2009, 10:24 AM
This is a build that i developed for myself, although it's very simple and anyone could do it. If i put it in a simple way, it's a Tank/gank/initiator build.

Start:
2x sets of Runes
Loggers Hatchet
Pretenders Crown

What i get next depends entirely on what I'm up against:

Mana Battery (in the outpost), if i am up against a lane which uses spells frequently.
Lifetube (in the outpost), if i was able to get enough gold before my runes were out.

Someone on my team usually buys courier and that is a big help, as i don't often go back to town.

What i strive to have in my inventory next is:

1x Fortified Bracer
Loggers Hatchet
Steamboots (Strength)
Helm of the Black Legion
Mana Battery
2x Sets of Town Portal (Always carry a tp or two.)

The order of which of these i finish first depends entirely on how fast i was able to farm and if i had to go back to the well.
If i was able to stay on my lane enough then i finish HotBL first, but if i have to go back to town frequently, then i finish Fortified Bracers and normal Marchers first.

The next thing i get is Portal Key. (I sell mana battery for it).
Pestilence already has flight so why would i get Portal Key?
Few reasons:
When you run up to a guy with Flight, you are easily disabled.
When you just use Flight, the crowd of enemies can easily spread out as to not all get caught up in the stun.

BUT, when you do have Portal Key, you can easily pin point a perfect Blink+Stun into 2-5 enemies, Ult one guys, and have your whole team follow.
Same thing when you are chasing someone, it takes a lot less time for you to finish guys off therefore your whole team can go faster back into farming or taking down a tower, or push.
Not a lot of guys expect that suddenly a guy appears behind them which stuns them all (although it's a different story in a competitive game, but it's still very viable). Having a Portal Key means you also have a lot better chance of success of ganking enemies with great escape abilities such as Sand Wraith.

The next item i get is Behemoth's Heart which replaces Loggers Hatchet.

Final item inventory is:
Fortified Bracer
Helm of the Black Legion
Portal Key
Strength Steam Boots
Behemoths heart
Town Portals

You can easily determine that i am going for a tank build and not the usual Shield Breaker damage build that i see people going for.

Why? Because when i have these items, Pestilence has almost 4k HP, and add the stun, that makes him a pretty damn strong tank.

Not only is he now a good tank, he is an initator, he's the best chaser, great ganker, his Ultimate makes a single enemy the easiest target to kill, he has great escape abilities and he can place the Ultimate on invisible targets to make them visible, his Ultimate can view enemies when they have gone into the shade which gives just a little more map control.

Decide for yourself, but in my experience, this build is much much better for the team than a simple damage build. And i would like to note, that i very rarely lose with this build.

All of this relies of course on that you have a good team. At least one support, preferably at least one better carry although not required when you have a good team but it makes a big difference. But in my experience this build is viable in every game.

How i spec the skills:
Stun Lvl1
Flight Lvl1
Stun Lvl2
Flight Lvl2
Stun Lvl3
Ultimate lvl1
Stun lvl4
Flight Lvl3
Flight Lvl4
Bash Lvl1
Finish Ultimate asap
Finish Stats
Finish Bash.

I max stats before bash because i find them to be more useful, but i get 1 Bash first just to have the chance of being able to Bash.

About the skills.
When you are about to engage in a team fight, sometimes i run up to and ult 1-2 guys BEFORE i blink in to have more people with -15 armor.
Use Flight whenever possible, when running to the well, when going to the secret shop, when running back to a lane etc from the well, whenever you have to travel. BUT, be sure to have it ready before a team fight, gank, escape etc and also be sure to have enough mana left for your Stun, blink and ult.

I don't think i have anything left to mention except of course one thing, Shrunken Head. With this build, i most of the time don't need Shrunken Head, but there are games where it is required so it really depends when I get it.

Sillocan
12-21-2009, 04:24 PM
hmmm i can see why you have the portal key... by why would you get flight first? thats like killing your self with the 10% increased damage, whenever i see a pest with flight we pretty much focus him and he goes down in about 5 secs

KEENGAMER
12-21-2009, 09:46 PM
You should always get flight first but maxing stats before your bash is insanely stupid and you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting it

blowme_
12-21-2009, 10:57 PM
In my experience with this build, stats becomes far more useful than bash. And i already mentioned i get 1 Bash before i max stats so i still have a chance of bashing.

And to Sillocan, i very rarely get killed when i have my Flight on. Almost never.

KEENGAMER
12-21-2009, 11:40 PM
You think +6 to all stats is better than 15% more chance to bash? Really, that's terrible

blowme_
12-22-2009, 01:54 PM
The enemies are usually dead before i get a chance to bash with such a low attack speed.

KEENGAMER
12-22-2009, 02:28 PM
Terrible skill build.

blowme_
12-22-2009, 08:25 PM
Obviously not for my playstyle.

Jive
12-22-2009, 08:28 PM
Replace hotbl with a shieldbreaker and proceed to hit like a runaway semi, oh and don't get stats before bash :(

KEENGAMER
12-22-2009, 10:47 PM
Obviously not for my playstyle.

If you playstyle is never autoattacking anyone ever then sure, but if that's your playstyle than you're ******* terrible mate

TheHanzou
01-08-2010, 09:21 AM
Can anyone explain to me how a good pestilence is played? In all my 400+ games, i have only seen a good pestilence once (in the opponents team) and lost every single game i had pestilence on my team. They suck, always.

They get abyssal skull+boots and thats it, then end up with 0/5 - 0/8 by the time we concede. He seems insanely hard to play. I seriously lost every single game we had him, and he always ended up feeding. Am i just unlucky or what?

LokTarOgar
01-08-2010, 01:29 PM
lol ur extremely unlucky, man. pest is an extremely easy hero to play. swarm some1, turn on flight, run up to them to stun and atk. repeat last 2 steps as necessary. tower diving is acceptable if u have at least 1/2 hp and have some form of boots. otherwise it's likely u'll die

as for this guide, helm is retarded on pest. sure he can tank but ur still better off skipping the helm. only heroes that should get helm r legi and maybe corrupted. on all other heroes it's a waste. ur probably better off getting headdress cuz they're more likely to target u w/ spells rather than auto-atking. i usually go steamboots, insanitarius, whispering helm, demonic breastplate then upgrade my helm to symbol of rage if game is still going on. DB offers better benefits than shieldbreaker imo cuz the atk spd helps for more bashes and still lowers enemy armor while buffing ur own. this is for pest semi-carry/semi-tank build =P

finally never skip bash over stats. not worth it at all. i've been in multiple situations where bash has saved my ass or scored me the kill. what r u hoping to achieve from getting stats anyways? the only time i would even thimk about getting stats would be at lvls 2 and 4 when in a hard lane where u need to stun more to save urself and ur ally where flight can't help u much. still very situational tho and i usually just opt for flight

chofeV
01-08-2010, 08:41 PM
stats rather than bash ?
kinda wrong

PistoIero
01-08-2010, 08:42 PM
:pest:

Skull4er
01-09-2010, 09:27 AM
replace Helm with SHamans headress so that you can build later on an barrier idol (if needed). if the enemy has no real strong nukers, skip them.

besides, insanitarius is one of the best items for pest, it makes him tankier and beefier, and as long as you do not turn it longer then around 15 secs, it even won't provide a penelaty.
and it works very well with heart! 4k hp without problems, while giviing a nice amount of dmg.
and get shieldbreaker! it CAN grant more dmg than a doombringer (sounds retarded, but actually it is like this, couldn't believe it myself, if someone want the maths look at premium guides --->pestilence, there is a link to armor calculations)

Stickyrolls
01-10-2010, 04:45 AM
So bad. Don't build helm on pest for one thing. Flight> gore early though sometimes if I'm getting babysit I will go gore first since I'm rushing portal key and won't need flight quiet as much. I used to be 100 perc against getting gore in lane over flight but here is why I sometimes level gore in lane: as the enemy melee hero goes to last hit take pot shots on him one than back every once in a while. You proc gore one of these times and you get a few more attack in than chain w/stun. If your lane mate is decent this will result in a kill.
Portal key-shrunken head-shieldbreaker/demonic/behe heart is my favorite build. Shieldbreaker if your not haveing issues with survival. Demonic if your getting hurt by right click damage a lot. Heart if your getting nuked down. Great thing all 3 add dps for you.

Skull4er
01-10-2010, 08:54 AM
25% stunchance for additional 70 dmg > stats.
prebuff there were enough people who took stats>gore, but those times changed.

nyxon
01-10-2010, 02:47 PM
lol. in 90% of all cases are stats much better than gore.. 15% 1sec stun?.. rofl, Stats are much better.. 1 point in gore Just for fun mabye, but no1 really good pesti get gore before lvl 21-25

^^

Newti
01-10-2010, 03:47 PM
lol. in 90% of all cases are stats much better than gore.. 15% 1sec stun?.. rofl, Stats are much better.. 1 point in gore Just for fun mabye, but no1 really good pesti get gore before lvl 21-25

^^

Oh yea? Think again:

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=20686408

I guess AngryTestie is a noob then. He maxxed Gore even before he maxxed Flight. Go figure. The game is from yesterday.

Xitras
01-10-2010, 04:10 PM
lol. in 90% of all cases are stats much better than gore.. 15% 1sec stun?.. rofl, Stats are much better.. 1 point in gore Just for fun mabye, but no1 really good pesti get gore before lvl 21-25

^^

Stop being so ignorant.

LostFaith
01-13-2010, 02:30 AM
Can anyone explain to me how a good pestilence is played? In all my 400+ games, i have only seen a good pestilence once (in the opponents team) and lost every single game i had pestilence on my team. They suck, always.

They get abyssal skull+boots and thats it, then end up with 0/5 - 0/8 by the time we concede. He seems insanely hard to play. I seriously lost every single game we had him, and he always ended up feeding. Am i just unlucky or what?
Pesti is very easy to play actually, you have been very. very. very. unlucky with:pest::eek: he rapes. But on topic to this guide, I would get gore over stats any day. Gore has scored the kill for me with the stun and the extra attack or so or otherwise they would of gotten away. I have no idea why you would EVER get stats over gore unless your being chainstunned over and over.

twincannon
01-13-2010, 09:27 AM
Helm of black legion is bad, pestilence is not a tank, don't build him like one.

Flight is so fast that it's purpose coincides with portal key, thus if you are going to do an "initiator pestilence" (if you are absolutely friggin' desperate for initiation) I'd say just skip flight in favor of stats as once you portal in your job is done, and portal key is an escape mechanism as well. Personally I would just use my flight and go for dps however, pesti can chase/escape fine with it and that 2050 gold can go towards insanitarius or shieldbreaker which help turn pesti into both a great ganker and a hard carry, which is where his strength comes from and why he is a very common ban.