The worst Hero

[LightRain]

Vindicator is not bad wtf

[EGNesTea420]

Slither or Armadon. A 5v5 dupe where everyone on one team goes Armadon is bloody funny though.

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/056_GR_XI_Finals_fiVe_vs_WHP-t565707.html

[Espeon]

Rampage

[Rwzh]

all heros are good, if you know how to use them correctly. it is not the hero being bad, is the person playing the hero.

[Fishin]

Possibilities in my opinion:

Rampage: Melee, only attacks one hero at a time for mediocre DPS and some occasional disables (ie garbage in teamfights until he farms up some dps AND a bkb).

Scout: Is a complete liability early game besides eyes, mediocre midgame, and late game he's still outclassed since pretty much every other carry can farm harder/be more useful with the same amount of gold/not suck as much early.

Zephyr: Very reliant on Tornadoes/items to do anything useful. He's honestly not *that* bad (easily better than the above two), he's just worse than almost all other heroes.

Some heroes that are useless in mid-higher level play can be good in pub/em games though.

[Deathbeproud]

:ramp:Too many people are mixing not competitive with worst. Rampage destroys in pub games. He is on pandas level of disabling one person not to metion able to reach 200 auto damage at level 7 (not including bashes).

:blac:Blacksmith. A smart man said carry with frenzy > any other carry. Supported well in a lane combined with a good amount of ganks and farm results in a 3.5k hp nuking wonder. Sac Stone + Heart is completely viable in a normal non em game. Lower CD spells = more multicast.

:dead:Anyone saying Deadwood has clearly not seen him played properly. Honestly come watch me destroy people with that hero.

:slit:Now for the real uselss hero topic. I think my vote goes to Slither. An AOE Dot ult. Non lethal to anyone. His poison spray is easily deniable. His mana pool is so bad he can barely get off his spray + ult at 6. Wards are barely okay.

:arma:Second goes to Armadon. If there wasn't already a reason to get a power supply on almost every hero Armadon ensures it. His slow is amazing yes. But his lack of any damage makes him an afterthought in any fight and early will just feed the other team power supply charges.

[hatz]

Slither is a beast when played correctly. He is a farming machine.

My vote is scout. Buy any kind of revealing sight and he's useless.

[Fux]

I think there is probably no "worst hero". Devourer is really nice if you can play with for example saving mates. And Ophelia isnt worse, too. If you have the know-how about jungling she is a nice hero. And all the others. Maybe there are some hereos which are not hard to play and other hereos which are. But if you know HOW to play them, every hero is good.
Thats my opinion.

Any hero can curb stomp given the right player.

But Armadon, I don't know, I just feel he relies a little too much on items. I just can't seem to be as good as I want to be.


My vote is scout. Buy any kind of revealing sight and he's useless.

Can't the same be said for, I dunno, every other Stealth hero?

And this isn't considering how good the Scout is. A good player of an invisible hero will know to stay away from anyone with Dust, True sight wards, or an Eye.

Scout isn't bad, Bad players make him seem bad.

[Bobnintendo]

It's got to be one of these:

:ramp::zeph:

[OutWarded]

It's got to be one of these:

:ramp::zeph:

:ramp: sucks hard :devo: too being the pudge player that I WAS I still ***** and complain about him every time I get him

[Thargoran]

Slither or Armadon. A 5v5 dupe where everyone on one team goes Armadon is bloody funny though.


Agree with Slither. Worst hero by a mile but i'm not a big fan of ophelia or electrician, definitely not in competitive...

Serious about Armadon?!!? He's a brute if used properly. I saw someone the other day use lifesteal, magic armor and max hp. There were like 3 heroes trying to kill him and LITERALLY all he did was stay there for ages chasing various people whilst ulti, snot and spine burst... It was weird but funny at the same time.

[Tasdingo1]

at least rampage can pub stomp.
I vote for Devourer!
Why?
-100 range less than dota
-bigger hook aoe, harder to do those tricky in between people hooks(how i feel though)
-pathing in HoN, if i hook from the edge of the cliff he won't be on the cliff.

Due to the above factors , they should at least buff hook to 1200 range =)

There is no ''wrost hero" imo

[Stallown]

dev is insta loss in AR

[Vorbes]

I'd say that the worst overall is Slither. He's decent in like the first 15 minutes of the game, but since then his effectiveness quickly drops to zero.


I disagree, at 46 minutes I was doing over 1.2k damage to each of the enemies.

[Crashh]

?
Are you serious?

Without his core up he's far far away from being one of the best gankers.
What about: Pharao, Behemoth, Magmus, Valkyrie, Slither, Wretched Hag, Pebbles, Panda, Pyro, Bloodhunter, Glacius, Pollywog etc etc etc etc


These are good gankers that don't need any special gear to do a good job.
Devourer without boots, Headdress and Bottle is nothing. And besides that he will get outleveled easily and dominated by pretty much every common solo-mid hero.

As I already said. Against any serious lineup he is nothing.
And those videos say a lot, not.



And no wai! Hag is a really good hero since the buff.
Tons of burst AOE damage, great runecontrol, great ganking and a build-in blink.
How can this be worse than Devourer O_o


And yeah, Slither is not as good as Venomancer was in DotA and I just donno why. Must be the different metagame.
But he is one of the best lvl1 gankers in HoN.
Lane him with Swiftblade and you got a solid strong lane.

I really don't think Glacius or Slither are better gankers then him...
Glacius in no way is a ganker.. Behemoth is an initiator, you're just throwing names up there.

I don't think there is a worst hero. They all can perform differently under different circumstances.

The ones I would hate to get the most are

- Wildsoul
- Torturer
- Voodoo Jester
- Glacius

[Darkshine1]

Topic necromancy! OH NOES!

Anyhoo, I can't say Zephyr's the worst hero in the game anymore. :(

So, I suppose I'll go with Rampage.

[Dehorn]

heroes that require skill will always be labeled as horrible heroes.

ive seen devourer in hon tournaments dominate(1800-2000+ psr matches) same with ophelia. if you can land great hooks you make every fight 4v5. ophelia is the strongest pusher in the game, a great ganker, can solo kong in 10 mins, and can heal her whole team every 30 seconds... thats bad?

if youre not good with a hero, that doesnt mean the hero is bad. you are.




p.s. rampage is the worst, slither is pretty bad if not used correctly in the right line up. like i love to see slither max wards when his team isnt designed to push. completely useless.

[Bacn]

:scou:


Do we all agree?


Yes.

[Haxblax]

:ophe:

[pilf]

Imho Rampage is now the worst hero.

Devourer can be useful in early game right now. He is still weak, but not the worst anymore.
Same with Slither.


So Rampage must be clearly the worst hero.

[Vodka]

Rampage<Scout<Devourer<Armadon

[Inri]

I really like the people who are using arguments like "Slither is a very good ganker/pusher early-mid game but after that he sucks! Therefore he is bad!"

Has the thought that Slither is a early-mid game hero ever come to your mind?

[Jarbor]

Rampage by far (no benefit to teamfights).
Next in line are probably Scout and Nighthound.

Rampage by far (no benefit to teamfights).Apart from the opposing team losing their carry...

[Jazriel]

Devo. Rampage can actually hard-carry. Night Hound can hard-carry. Devo has absolutely no use in a real game.

Devo. Rampage can actually hard-carry. Night Hound can hard-carry. Devo has absolutely no use in a real game.
Devourer can gank and can pull carries out of teamfights. I still stand with keeper of the forest.

[noodle0117]

The dark lady is rape.
Most just don't know how to use her.

[Nietzschean]

A well played Pudge = Jesus.

Not the best, but can change the outcome of a teamfight, by totally removing and disabling a hero.


The dark lady is rape.
Most just don't know how to use her.

Dark Lady is arguably the best DPS hero in the game. 110% damage + slow + insane attack speed + basically ruining a team = rape. She is probably the only hero who could kill another within seconds (literally)

[thebash]

Slither was good before the ward rework/buff and it's downright monstrous currently, it's hilarious how some people think every agi has to be a carry.

[RogerDodger]

Rampage








By miles

[Inri]

Excuse me but a well played Magebane will rape Dark Lady all day long.

[Grrey]

Ophelia

50% of the playerbase have no idea how to play her. That's about the only hero I've seen repeatidly fail.

[Deionarra]

Ophelia

50% of the playerbase have no idea how to play her. That's about the only hero I've seen repeatidly fail.
You have 50% easy mode games played, that's not a coincidence. I'm not sure I've ever seen a bad Ophelia in normal mode.

http://stats.maide.ca/pages/herostats

[Nietzschean]

Excuse me but a well played Magebane will rape Dark Lady all day long.

Thats besides the point? Magebane is considered the best carry in the game because he drains mana like a B**ch.. But he does not do as much damage as Dark Lady. Dark Lady literally can kill a hero in 3 seconds, Magebane cannot. Infact, should a Dark lady activate her skills then start blasting on Magebane, it would be too close to call..

You must understand why Magebane is a carry in the first place before you come saying really ignorant things to that. Magebane is the anti-mage. He can be countered by high HP heroes not Dependant on mana for skills (Leg) and by Chronos (both old and new).

[Dehorn]

__________ IS BAD CAUSE I SAID SO! NO PROOF NEEDED!!!!



these threads get retarded so fast...

[Novice]

There are no bad heroes, only players who play the heroes bad.

[ChikenMcTest]

Rampage<Scout<Devourer<Armadon

Armadon? Really? He is one of the best heroes!

[NinjaMoves]

Recently, i was scrolling over a couple of threads where I stumbled upon this one page where the discussion was "Who is the most useless hero?", to which the thread-starter and many of the people who took part in the discussion agreed that Devourer is the most useless hero. That really upset me, since I think that Devourer is in fact one of the most powerful heroes in the game.

I now do realize that the reason why people think Devourer is quite useless is because he can never wield Riftshards or Savage Mace because of his poor Agility(meaning low atkspd). He is also quite squishy to physical attacks also due to his poor Agility(meaning low armor). 90% of those who play HoN only like heroes that do not require much skill to use, that can dominate a whole team singlehandedly, and pretty much win the whole game by simply right-clicking. This is why heroes such as Scout are a common sight.

Quite frankly, I do believe if you qualify for the above-mentioned statement, then you are an ignorant noob.

Devourer :devo:
-Guttling Hook - Devourer's main skill. Since this is the most important and most difficult to master, people throw up when they random Devourer and rush the repick. They overlook the fact that the capability of pulling your enemies to your location is quite simply imbalanced. It is like Andromeda's swap, but only the enemy is affected. Guttling Hook also has a relatively low cooldown and 1100 range! Downside is that it can be very mana taxing since it costs 140 per pull.

-Decay - This toggle skill enables Devourer to deal up to 100 damage per second around him, at the cost of the same amount of damage dealt. This makes noobs dislike the skill because it damages you as well. They cannot think of anything else but better heroes than do spells that do not damage themselves. This skill if you aren't such a noob can be used in conjunction with his ultimate, making Devourer a fearsome assasin.

-Cadaver Armor - At first glance, people see infinite Str. A lightbulb pops off their head and they get 3 runed axes so that they can farm the creeps for Str Str and more Str. If this is the case, you have already failed so hard you might as well ragequit. This skill gives you a passive +1/2/3/4 magic armor and gives you 1 Str per 11 creeps killed or 1.8 Str each hero you kill(or that dies nearby you). This makes devourer capable of tanking Decay a little more, as well as other nukes.

-Devour - In the eyes of a noob, the ultimate noob ultimate. The worst fxxxin last skill that deals 225/375/525 damagae and disables for 3 seconds. Witchslayer does 500/650/850. Pyro does 450/675/950. So why does Devourer have a crappy ultimate? Cos you're a noob and you think so. When used with Decay, this will force the enemy to take a load of damage from Decay.

Now that we have gone through his skills, let us proceed to his gameplay. He should be ganking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now with the buff to his hook, he can hook enemies 1100 range at level 1, making him a potential roamer after level 2. If you are not skilled with his hook, ask an ally to disable. Do whatever you can to be worthy.

Mid-game you should still be ganking, putting pressure on the enemy. Carries will have little HP and you can take them out quickly. But one of the things here in HoN is that everyone goes Hotbl... If that is the case, the enemy team has lost 2000+ per Hotbl.. It this is true, then you already won the batte.
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WIP;afla

[IMaTRUCK1]

There are no bad heroes, only players who play the heroes bad.

Trying to look cool and whatnot,but that's seriously wrong.Some heroes are beyond useless.
Ophelia? Yay let's chase people down with 200 speed minions?
Voodoo Jester? Terrible at everything and good at nothing
on and on...and on..

[Tinithor]

Rampage is by far the worst.

[Blockk]

The 3 lowest tiers of heroes

Low Tier, Garbage Tier, and RAMPAGE TIER!!!!

:ramp::ramp::ramp::ramp::ramp::ramp:

[Dehorn]

Trying to look cool and whatnot,but that's seriously wrong.Some heroes are beyond useless.
Ophelia? Yay let's chase people down with 200 speed minions?
Voodoo Jester? Terrible at everything and good at nothing
on and on...and on..

not trying to look cool, just stating facts. theres a link in an earlier post, with stats about hero usage. in games above 1600 or 1700 psr, ophelia has the highest winning percentage in the game, by like 10-20%. how this possible if shes a useless hero?

it just shows that youre exactly what i was talking about. you dont know how to use her, therefore shes a bad hero?

just go away...

[Skull4er]

Trying to look cool and whatnot,but that's seriously wrong.Some heroes are beyond useless.
Ophelia? Yay let's chase people down with 200 speed minions?
Voodoo Jester? Terrible at everything and good at nothing
on and on...and on..
toooooo obviously for a troll
but just in case that you are serious

ophelia is the hardest hero to play, a well played ophelia can change the course of a whole game.

jester is a top hero, his curse greatly amplifies dmg, and his chainstun can interrupt channling spells while he self may be disabled.

before you try to look cool and whatnot, change your attitude.

[man_guy]

Blacksmith. Sure hes fun to play and what not but in a serious game you can't reply on complete luck

BS is actually pretty strong now.

[R4GE]

The way you're talking about armadon, i suspect you havn't seen a power supply, ever.

Armadon is a terrible hero, he is countered by 210 gold. Anyone in a lane vs armadon will win. Armadon is one of the worst laning heroes, just supplies free mana and hp to the other team, or just can't cast a single spell and lets everything get last hit.

Sure, lategame armadon has the abillity to succeed, but early game he's very very bad (HE ACTUALLY HELPS THE OTHER TEAM SOMETIMES).

planning to tank 10 of my stacked spines that do about 120 damage each average (1200 damage without reductions) and get 150 health? You must be amazing.

Protip: Arma isnt a solo honey. There will b another guy beating on u while u r permaslowed and -armor.

Another Protip? Gee mister, thanks: Mana battery/power supply has a cooldown.

Dark Lady is arguably the best DPS hero in the game. 110% damage + slow + insane attack speed + basically ruining a team = rape. She is probably the only hero who could kill another within seconds (literally)
And I say that deadwood beats her to it:p

Also devourer's primary weakness is the fact that his ulti is channeling. So holding opponents might seem nice and all, but it simply doesn't do as well as just being able to 1-shot em. I'd say with a BKB or something he should still be very strong.

[Dehorn]

planning to tank 10 of my stacked spines that do about 120 damage each average (1200 damage without reductions) and get 150 health? You must be amazing.

Protip: Arma isnt a solo honey. There will b another guy beating on u while u r permaslowed and -armor.

Another Protip? Gee mister, thanks: Mana battery/power supply has a cooldown.


you just dont get it! he fills your mana battery... all the way up... you cant let that happen... so what if he removes chunks of armor, slows enemies to a stop, pumps out lots of aoe damage and tanks tons of damage, THINK ABOUT THEIR MANA BATTERIES!!!!!

[Blockk]

Yawn mana batteries. Yea they get a full charge..Just means they die 2 seconds later.

[Sylcom]

Some patches ago, keeper was beyond useless. Wards with Hpregen, wtf?
Now keeper is seemingly better. Like in DotA.

The worst hero is...... Magebane.
His manaburn and blink might be insane, like his ulti, but, in most games, he can't do anything against hardcarries like The dark Lady or Chronos.
He's way too useless.
Even with epic gear, he gets raped by tdl or chronos.

Voodoo is damn good.
It's very funny skilling cocktail on rank 1, then maxing cursed ground and mojo.

Stun shortly, Curse him, cast mojo on him.
rank 4 mojo and cursed, rank 1 cocktail rape everything even without his ward.
His ward is pretty strong, when not countered by an AoE Stun.
If the enemy lacks in AoE Stuns, just got target stuns, i get shroud to hide myself.

[Andycrapped]

Glacius is the worst. I tried and tried to see the good in him but honestly, most any int class can do better then him (aside from his passive buff)

[Whalecore]

^ Glacius is one of the best babysitters in HoN man. His stun not only stuns, but deals massive amount of damage early game. And he can spam it. Low mana cost + mana aura is win.

Rampage is the most useless hero atm. Best thing he can do for his team is buy a shrunken head and elder parasite and hope for lucky stuns!

[Momo]

Scout, Nighthound, Engineer, Torturer IMO.

[Pandabro]

Night hound and Rampage. Both serve roles that are way done FAR better with other heroes.

[Andycrapped]

^ Glacius is one of the best babysitters in HoN man. His stun not only stuns, but deals massive amount of damage early game. And he can spam it. Low mana cost + mana aura is win.

Rampage is the most useless hero atm. Best thing he can do for his team is buy a shrunken head and elder parasite and hope for lucky stuns!
Except his stun isnt a stun at all and theyre still able to cast and promptly destroy him. Late game all he has going for him is his AOE snare. Even his aura is nothing mid to late.

[Bacn]

Whoever said Glacius sucks, luls at joo.

His aura is probably my favorite thing to have along with his amazing babysitting powers.

[Whitesock]

I feel like devourer is one of the worst. I love to play him and I usually do good with him, but there are so many better alternatives he gets little to no play.

[Kirbynator]

devourer got slightly buffed, so personally I think it's in the middleground group.

I agree with the people saying rampage and night hound are probably the two worse heroes. And its not really that close.

[SNESChalmers]

Glacius has solid skills (his freeze is good, and his aoe spam is one of the best support skills in the game) but he has massive weaknesses, he's slow as crap, his str is pathetic and his stat gains are awful. For such a squishy hero, his ult leaves a lot to be desired too, as it totally pales in comparison with the other AOE ults (tempest, kraken, etc). Def not the most useless hero, but in an even game, you can be guaranteed that Glac will have the most deaths of any ranged hero. IMO he needs to have some buffs in the stat department; as of right now he's one of the weaker support heroes.

[Pandabro]

The worst hero is...... Magebane.

Are you serious? One of the best hardcarries in the game? Chronos just got a big buff so he's up there now but Magebane is banned/picked quite often in competitive games. He's borderline OP if anything.

[Lethe]

Magebane is far more reasonable now. Runed axe was ridiculous on him, but he could get by by rushing it with 20+1.6 str gain, where base str is relatively high but str gain is low. Now, His base str is poor as well as his str gain. You are running a huge risk by rushing runed axe on magebane, and if you try to build something like hotbl or frostburn, he is far more reasonable anyway.

Basically magebane is balanced now.

[Eugenie]

Some patches ago, keeper was beyond useless. Wards with Hpregen, wtf?
Now keeper is seemingly better. Like in DotA.

The worst hero is...... Magebane.
His manaburn and blink might be insane, like his ulti, but, in most games, he can't do anything against hardcarries like The dark Lady or Chronos.
He's way too useless.
Even with epic gear, he gets raped by tdl or chronos.

Voodoo is damn good.
It's very funny skilling cocktail on rank 1, then maxing cursed ground and mojo.

Stun shortly, Curse him, cast mojo on him.
rank 4 mojo and cursed, rank 1 cocktail rape everything even without his ward.
His ward is pretty strong, when not countered by an AoE Stun.
If the enemy lacks in AoE Stuns, just got target stuns, i get shroud to hide myself.
Mana burn + AS = No mana for opponents.
Most competitive games lack Magebane because he's rather squishy and pretty much useless in early to mid game (but so is the majority of carries) unless you're playing a horrible team or getting lucky in tourney plays. However, once he gets into late game, I find it hard to believe that anyone can faceroll this hero.

[Crookz1]

useless::scou::ophe::ramp:

useless unless played right: :nigh:

And I'd have to say, these heroes aren't useless but there are much better choices: :soulr::swif::wret:

[reefer69]

rampage is bad.and nym is really. bad just avoid her healing pod and gg for her.ppl would say shes supp but shes just aweful.and too easy to gank kill. once i see her i no is gg unless u got another healer to supp her lol

[iblameCOCO]

useless::scou::ophe::ramp:

useless unless played right: :nigh:

And I'd have to say, these heroes aren't useless but there are much better choices: :soulr::swif::wret:


ophelia useless lol! lmfao

[InBe4The404]

i'd say armadon. there's just heros that do everything he does better (chase, tank, carry) and don't require a team stacked around them. i mean if you think about what an armadon is like with a mock and a heart, then compare it to sandwraith, it's not even funny how much better SW is.

[Space_Pirate]

Anyone who has posted that a hero is the "worst" hero in hon is just a dumbass. Every single opinion I've read on this forum is either based off ignorance or sheer stupidity.

Just because you are terrible at HON and can't play specific heroes doesn't mean that they don't have situations where they are perfect.

/THREAD

[derylO]

there are no useless heroes, everyone has its favors when u know how to play em

[Andycrapped]

i'd say armadon. there's just heros that do everything he does better (chase, tank, carry) and don't require a team stacked around them. i mean if you think about what an armadon is like with a mock and a heart, then compare it to sandwraith, it's not even funny how much better SW is.
SW wishes he could tank a fraction of what Arma can.

rampage is bad.and nym is really. bad just avoid her healing pod and gg for her.ppl would say shes supp but shes just aweful.and too easy to gank kill. once i see her i no is gg unless u got another healer to supp her lol

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24383103

Really?

Not really, Nymph is really good as a support hero and she can function as a glass cannon too. WHP clan prolly picks her even more often than demented shaman:p


SW wishes he could tank a fraction of what Arma can.
Arma wish he could take a fraction of what SW takes from the front

[Skull4er]

both arma and sandwraith use the same way to deal dmg.
getting their asses raped by the other team to cum in their faces X_x

Mana burn + AS + ACCURSED AS LANING PARTNER = ABSOLUTELY No mana for opponents.
Most competitive games lack Magebane because he's rather squishy and pretty much useless in early to mid game (but so is the majority of carries) unless you're playing a horrible team or getting lucky in tourney plays. However, once he gets into late game, I find it hard to believe that anyone can faceroll this hero.

improved

[InBe4The404]

SW wishes he could tank a fraction of what Arma can.

Stun armadon.

Run around to front.

hey look it's a 1200 hp tank.

[Exalion]

One of the worst heroes on pubs is often tempest, simply because he's an excellent hero who NEEDS teamwork to do anything other than feed.

But rampage is totally useless, and I'm yet to see a nighthound who doesn't REALLY SUCK.

[Bacn]

Magebane at late game.

Totally useless.

[Aarne]

no offence but...are you dumb or what?
magebane is killer in the end because, what your enemies do when they have no mana?

There is no worse hero, there is only worst player, ramp i far from being useless...hey look its caster*ulti* *charge* = lockdown and prolly dead

Magebane at late game.

Totally useless.

Yea, hard carries suck late-game.





Right?

[FulgoreSama]

Stun armadon.

Run around to front.

hey look it's a 1200 hp tank.
Hey look, Im still alive and your slowed while I juke your ass. And chances are armadon wont be alone.. That's just retarded.

[Monovax]

devourer isnt the worst, id say scout, since the nerf, he cant even dish out uber damage anymore. In dota, if the host picked pudge, you knew it was GG. He was a feared hero, and the only hero you would ever solo mid with (oooooooo) Somehow, in the transplant to hon, he just isnt the uber holy **** its a pudge any more.

no offence but...are you dumb or what?
magebane is killer in the end because, what your enemies do when they have no mana?Have their rampage activate his EP, shrunken and insanitarious and beat the **** out of magebane. And he definitely isn't the only hero that can do that.

[Aarne]

Have their rampage activate his EP, shrunken and insanitarious and beat the **** out of magebane. And he definitely isn't the only hero that can do that.

On that POV every hero has somekind of counter strategy so i repeat my point, there are no bad heroes there are only bad players

On that POV every hero has somekind of counter strategy so i repeat my point, there are no bad heroes there are only bad players
The reason that such a thing works for rampage is because he gains stunlock(especially with demonic breastplate). Paired up with the damage that insanitarious and BKB add magebane gets his hp reduced to nothing in a matter of seconds.

[Armsved]

For me its glacius... Only good thing is the aura, rest lags a lot. Andromeda also feels quite bad.

Devour is a monster tbh. If he is wellplayed he'll have you running scared evertime he is missing from the map.

Both have their uses. During early game they provide lane control, during mid and late game they disable opponents. In pubs they can be quite useless yeah, but that's because their own carries are playing like **** rather than their inherent weaknesses.

[Zim]

Ophelia and Rampage.

Ophelia is probably the worst.
Any good player can easily counter Ophelia's jungling and an ophelia without jungling is close to useless.

What the ****.

[Hextopia]

For all the armadon haters out there:
Armadon is an item dependant tank, which is his only real downside.
He puts out decent physical DPS, has good armor lowering/slow with his goo, and puts out HUGE physical DPS between quills/his armor skill.
In any game his job is to initiate, draw out the other team's damage spells and attacks, and immediately flip to run to soak damage in his 40% reduction ass.
And as people retarget, you just turn back around and keep drawing fire.
Armadon shakes up the squishies on the other team by running in and goo/beating them to death, scaring their support into either fleeing, or focusing you.
As people focus you, you just turn and run to soak damage while your team continues to DPS unhindered.

In higher tier play, he'll get ignored more often, but it just gives you more time to beat on their squishy heroes unhindered, which leaves their team without needed stuns/nukes/buffs.

[bil5]

For me its glacius... Only good thing is the aura, rest lags a lot. Andromeda also feels quite bad.

Devour is a monster tbh. If he is wellplayed he'll have you running scared evertime he is missing from the map.

Lol, not one right thing there. Fail.
Glacius is a very solid hero who can be used in many line ups. Andromeda is one (if not) the best roamer/ganker in the game. Devour just sucks because he is easily countered by wards and players with brain and he is pretty much useless in team fights.

[ChikenMcTest]

Devour is a joke tbh. Even If he is wellplayed he'll have you running for an easy kill evertime he is missing from the map.

Fixed that for you.

Devour's only good skill his meat hook, which is slow and clumsy as compared to the projectiles thrown by Pharaoh and Valk.

Even when you combine the damage from Rot & Devour Succubus' hold does more damage.

[Andycrapped]

Lol, not one right thing there. Fail.
Glacius is a very solid hero who can be used in many line ups. Andromeda is one (if not) the best roamer/ganker in the game. Devour just sucks because he is easily countered by wards and players with brain and he is pretty much useless in team fights.
Ive seen a few "pro" games on Honcast that have made Glac completely useless.

He is a feeder class, hes best leveled to level 7 and left in base for his mana aura. There, atleast you dont have to worry about him feeding.

[Quickfix]

Rampage. Single target hero with no redeeming features. What he does, almost anybody else can certainly do better. His ultimate is gimmicky and yet still single target.

[goldylocxs]

ARMADON! early game you just pump the other team powersupplys into gg

[Armsved]

Lol, not one right thing there. Fail.
Glacius is a very solid hero who can be used in many line ups. Andromeda is one (if not) the best roamer/ganker in the game. Devour just sucks because he is easily countered by wards and players with brain and he is pretty much useless in team fights.

So far I have only been in 1 game where a glacius was useful. I'd rather see pretty much any other hero on my team. His attack animation is bad (imo), his "stun" is **** since ppl can still use skills. This essentially makes him unable to gank anything. He cant farm for jack so getting the shrunken head is impossible and you will get stunned/silenced every teamfight. Essentially, he cant farm, he cant babysit, he cant gank. He can be good in teamfights if the other team sux, but thats it. The guy is just plain bad imo.

I just dont like andromeda.

I have seen plenty of devours wreck games after the buff. Might be because im not playing on a high enough level, but as I have seen, he's the only hero who can gank easily from level 2.

[EspritFort]

This topic has pretty much been exhausted now.
Anybody who still feels the need to contribute anything to this issue: I'm sure your statement is already in here somewhere :)

[Drasha]

*cough*rampage*cough*