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Bahamut
12-01-2009, 09:54 AM
hey, the description of swiftblade's counter atack is very vague to answer this question:

does it have a cooldown like axe's spin? if so, what's the cd?

can it proc from enemy range heroes?

the dmg is the same as a normal hit including procs and effects?

ElementUser
12-01-2009, 09:58 AM
I looked through the code and it may or may not have cooldown based on this line. For now I'm assuming there isn't a cooldown time (if there is, it must be a standardized value since it doesn't specify the cooldown time).


<startcooldown />Legionnaire's Whirling Blade has a "cooldowntime" line, whereas Counter Attack doesn't.

Yes it can proc from both melee & ranged, Counter Attack is literally a regular physical attack (which includes all effects and stuff), but if you were regular attacking or running it doesn't interrupt your movespeed/attackspeed intervals at all.

N_E_X_O_R
12-01-2009, 10:23 AM
I looked through the code and it may or may not have cooldown based on this line. For now I'm assuming there isn't a cooldown time (if there is, it must be a standardized value since it doesn't specify the cooldown time).

Legionnaire's Whirling Blade has a "cooldowntime" line, whereas Counter Attack doesn't.

Yes it can proc from both melee & ranged, Counter Attack is literally a regular physical attack (which includes all effects and stuff), but if you were regular attacking or running it doesn't interrupt your movespeed/attackspeed intervals at all.

Does it still counter attacks spells?

I've killed a thunderbringer who used his ult near his base on low hp, wasn't enough to kill me but... he got a shuriken to the face and died =)

Larzzon
12-01-2009, 10:25 AM
No they have changed it, only on attacks..

patch 0.1.51

Swiftblade
- Counterattack can no longer proc of spells

N_E_X_O_R
12-01-2009, 10:56 AM
No they have changed it, only on attacks..

patch 0.1.51

Swiftblade
- Counterattack can no longer proc of spells


That Makes me a Sad Panda =/

at least we still have engineer to play with... till friday... right?

*daemonic laughter*

Tyrando
12-01-2009, 11:22 AM
it used to have a cooldown of 0.7 afaik they removed it

it carries all modifiers a normal attack would except for Cleave since its a ranged attack (regardless of the distance).

Bahamut
12-01-2009, 01:08 PM
cool, can it proc from a cleave atack? or just by direct hit?

Tyrando
12-01-2009, 01:14 PM
no only direct hits.

Bahamut
12-01-2009, 11:54 PM
does it proc when the atack is commanded or when the atack lands?

for example, if swiftblade has evasion, he enemy atacks swift but it misses, can counter atack still proc?

man_guy
12-02-2009, 04:47 AM
Try it while attacking from low ground (as ranged).

Jager
12-02-2009, 06:51 AM
I'm not sure with terrain height, but when a hero misses from their attack on SB from evasion, counterattack still has a chance go off. Good thing too otherwise butterfly would have a bad side effect on him.