View Full Version : Choose wi - WRETCHED HAG
akitoes
11-29-2009, 01:20 PM
So I wanted to know, is wretched hag played alot in competitive games ? If not why ?
Sounds like a top pick/ban to me with the HoN version of her ulti.
br1nger
11-29-2009, 09:08 PM
other heroes bring close to the same dmg and have stuns and more useful abilities i guess she could be picked here or there but def not a top pick
balmain
11-30-2009, 12:13 AM
she is a competitive pick, very mobile, not prone to death due to blink, and excellent aoe dmg
akitoes
11-30-2009, 07:11 AM
other heroes bring close to the same dmg
Tell me a hero that deals close to the same dmg than new Wretched Hag, I can assure you there aren't many. Behemoth could come close but it's still a far stretch.
Wretched Hag's job isn't to stun it's just to rape faces.
If Wretched Hag was just introduced in last patch everyone would be crying nerf.
She has Blink, massive aoe damage + slow, massive farm power
Maybe is it only a matter of time before she gets played in competitive then probably banned lol.
I wonder if i should have posted this.
ACatInTheHat
11-30-2009, 07:31 AM
Since her cast animations got buffed she's been viable, and I too see her as a future pick in competitive play! :) But I guess in DotA mostly Asian teams used QoP, nowadays I don't see her often at all.
Jaycoob
11-30-2009, 07:38 AM
ehh.... I think you mean "CHOOSE WIS----SCOUT!"
FuzzyWuzzy
11-30-2009, 08:54 AM
Hag is good only because of the fact that she can beat you to any rune from mid (well perhaps Madman only has a chance)
Crinkz
11-30-2009, 08:57 AM
ehh.... I think you mean "CHOOSE WIS----SCOUT!"
"CHOOSE WISCOUT" sounds more accurate imo.
LokoLoko
11-30-2009, 09:12 AM
Since her cast animations got buffed she's been viable, and I too see her as a future pick in competitive play! :) But I guess in DotA mostly Asian teams used QoP, nowadays I don't see her often at all.
Yamateeeeeh tehhhhhhhhhhhhh; he had a 3dr qop @ SMM D:, don't let the qop free farm!
Somnium
11-30-2009, 11:47 AM
"CHOOSE WISCOUT" sounds more accurate imo.
"CHOOSENGINEER" every single game last night
knallfrosch
11-30-2009, 03:36 PM
Didn't see her the last weeks, sf/puck/kunkka etc. are more useful in teamfights it seems.
Kietharr
11-30-2009, 11:51 PM
She might be usable, but pretty much only until Puck is ported. Puck essentially took over the role she played and did it more effectively because he also had disables. The hit to damage is more than worth the silence and stun/root.
She does put out a shitload of magic damage with her three nukes, but a shitload of magic damage alone does not make for a competitive character. In her own right yeah, she might see some use in HoN, but even with the DoT on ult Puck will overshadow her provided his animations don't get raped.
china
12-01-2009, 07:59 AM
Puck - Mobility via Blink + Disables w/ Damage + Phase Shift
Akasha - Mobility via Blink + Damage (1 slow)
Puck really just outclassed Akasha IMO. But in HoN, the same rule stands that is also core in DotA - Mobility is one of the strongest aspects of the game. Complete positional awareness paired with blink is something that is really hard to match. It's not just her damage output, but her ability to get wherever she needs to be easily.
JewishNinja
12-01-2009, 06:50 PM
Hag is special in that her ult does a slow as well, which wrecks if you catch them in a bad position. Catch them in a bad position and its effect is similar to that of pre nerf darkseer: the entire enemy team spends a shitload of time trying to get back into position while your teams attacks, initiations, etc are just that much more effective.
I play it as a darkseer with a built in blink: Great at chasing, great at initiating, and great at running away as well as good at dishing out massive aoe dps without having to put yourself in real danger.
Basically, the only reason hag is good is because her ult is good now, and the spells have significantly lower cd's.
Well_Shebber
12-01-2009, 06:58 PM
Since her cast animations got buffed she's been viable, and I too see her as a future pick in competitive play! :) But I guess in DotA mostly Asian teams used QoP, nowadays I don't see her often at all.
No, since her ult got buffed she's been viable. Not her animation (although it was a welcome change).
She's decent now; great AoE nukes and unrivaled chasing power, but at the cost of crap for stats and a huge weakness to disables.