Best str support other than Behemoth and Jereziah?

[ItchyTits]

interested to know since I would like to learn a decent, not too often played str support

[lumino`]

I don't want to sound like a complete tool, but why make a topic for something clearly obvious.

Not only that, but just go through the hero list AND CHECK FOR YOURSELF.

I bet I wake up tomorrow and see someone asking what to get for breakfast

[Rawrior]

accursed?

[JewishNinja]

lego electrician pharaoh accursed

only count lego and pharoah as support if you think that running in, making them focus fire you so your allies get free reign over their team as support

[Von_Moltke]

Accursed.

[Vulpes]

Behemoth is no support.

[lysol]

Behemoth is no support.
bad

and accursed is beast

[Ahteh]

bad

and accursed is beast

I too would not classify Behemoth as a support, but rather a ganker/initiatior.

I guess the lines are floating.

[Bobdoyle]

Behemoth isnt a support hero but Accursed is the next after Jera

[Somnolent49]

As people have said, Behemoth is not a support hero in any way. That's like calling pebbles a support.

Accursed and Jera are the two competitive strength support heroes. Beyond that, there are a few strength disablers, which might be what you mean by support, guys like Legionnaire, Electrician and Keeper. Out of those, Legionnaire is probably the most competitive. Electrician and Keeper are both considered weak heroes in competitive play, and you will hardly ever see them.

Accursed and Jera are the only strength healers, and they both have an allied purge ability, as well as decent (Accursed) or great (Jeraziah) ultimates, and are both extremely common bans for those reasons.

[lysol]

initiator = support

initiator/tank/pusher/healers/etc are just different definitions of support that pub players that play too much WoW invented

[lumino`]

initiator = support

initiator/tank/pusher/healers/etc are just different definitions of support that pub players that play too much WoW invented

Thats just talking out of your $ss.

A supporter hero is a hero that actively gives you and your teammates benefits. Be it healing/buffs or dispells.

A hero that can babysit is not perse a support hero. Hellbringer or polly can be perfect babysitters, but they are not support heroes. They are initiators/gankers. Which is a totally different role.

Jereziah/Tree/Accursed/Andromeda/Voodoo/electrician are examples of support heroes.

Witch Slayer, Pyromancer, Succubus, Behemoth, Tempest, Tiny are examples of gank/initiate/control heroes.

[Vulpes]

initiator = support

initiator/tank/pusher/healers/etc are just different definitions of support that pub players that play too much WoW invented

I guess Sand Wraith is also support. He kills people, thus helping your team!?

[eltra]

accu == best support other than jere imo
and if you wanna count cc, panda

[Ahteh]

initiator = support

initiator/tank/pusher/healers/etc are just different definitions of support that pub players that play too much WoW invented

So there's basically two brackets: Carries and support?

I guess that's one way to look at it.

[Chamie]

hahaha yeah Jera and and accursed are support rest are gankers/iniators ;P.

But I guess for this thread Pharoah and magmus are definatly worth mentioning ;O

[lysol]

Thats just talking out of your $ss.
my what? Sss?


A supporter hero is a hero that actively gives you and your teammates benefits. Be it healing/buffs or dispells.you mean like disabling the other team, like the heroes you mentioned in the next quote?


A hero that can babysit is not perse a support hero. Hellbringer or polly can be perfect babysitters, but they are not support heroes. They are initiators/gankers. Which is a totally different role.nah, its not


Jereziah/Tree/Accursed/Andromeda/Voodoo/electrician are examples of support heroes.they sure are, just like the ones you described as "gank/initiate/control heroes". btw do you play WoW? i bet youre one of those pubs that picks another "agi carry" after two other people grabbed them then spams "get a str, we need a tank" in chat. also, nice grammar bro, do you really say perse in real life? lol


So there's basically two brackets: Carries and support?
yes! well, and semi-carry (possible carries with stuns/nukes/etc like soulstealer/valkyrie/pest)


I guess Sand Wraith is also support. He kills people, thus helping your team!you quoted the wrong guy but i know what you were talkin about

consider this thread educated!

[Archatype]

The game in its most competitive form is essentially a race to see whos carry can overtake the game. Thus, if you are not carrying, you are supporting your carry. Initiating, ganking, dispelling, stunning, healing, and pushing are all things done ultimately to either 1) give you an edge to further help your carry gain an edge later, 2) directly earn your carry an edge, 3) hurt the other team in their ability to support their carry, and/or 4) damage the opponent carry's effectiveness relative to your own.

So yes, you could argue that there are only two meta-types of heroes. I guess semi-carries can exist, but really they are just heroes capable of being either a support or a carry depending on how farmed they are at a given stage in the game.

It is very practical to draw some differences. Nymphora and Pebbles are both support, but obviously differ in their roles. Gankers, pushers, and babysits are examples of possible subcategories for support heroes.

[Ruscour]

Behemoth could be classed as a support due to his stuns, however yes, his primary role is of course an initiator.

Accursed would be the best option for you - he is an extremely useful support that doesn't have the squishiness of int supports.

[Vulpes]

Behemoth could be classed as a support due to his stuns,

No - with them, he is a disabler, like Succubus and Polly.

Behemoth could be classed as a support due to his Fissure,
which saves teammates and is a great antipushing tool -


however yes, his primary role is of course an initiator.

[ma5]

He is 'support' in the sense that it's acceptable for him to buy beginning wards or chick, and maybe a wardset later down the line, but beyond that there's not much.

[MAGMUS]

The new tree is definitely a support with his detection eyes, shield, and hiding-others.

[Arirmind]

Behe is a support hero. Heroes that won't require much or at all farm are supports. Like Plague, witch slayer, Behe, andro, tempest...

Blink is quite expensive and very useful for initiators, but beond that initiators can do their job with just boots and some basic stat items.

[Tamachan]

I don't want to sound like a complete tool, but why make a topic for something clearly obvious.

Not only that, but just go through the hero list AND CHECK FOR YOURSELF.

I bet I wake up tomorrow and see someone asking what to get for breakfast

Little Flux is right. l2p l2r l2life geez. There is even a recommended item list, goto practice mode look through it. If you see any support items, then the hero can act as support. I even often play a support pebbles.

[SGT_Hash]

BLACKSMITH - great str support

[ItchyTits]

Little Flux is right. l2p l2r l2life geez. There is even a recommended item list, goto practice mode look through it. If you see any support items, then the hero can act as support. I even often play a support pebbles.

youre both complete tools, stop hating your lives. I was asking for opinions

[man_guy]

BLACKSMITH - great str support

He's a melee int.