View Full Version : The Cangaceiro (First skill Reworked. See Orange text on the first phrase.)
Azkalas
11-26-2009, 08:09 PM
*** A supporter of the hero just gave a better sugestion for the first skill. It will balance him more [Lowering hiss Movement Speed], and it won't make him a one skill-less character for half of a daytime period. The sugestion is already implemented on the first skill. And reworked again! Blur with Dodge chances at night time, and no longer gains the Attack Speed from full daytime period. In adition, he gained a boost for walking speed on day time.
***Skill 2 also got Nerfed Attack Speed Bonus for the moment [From 0.125%/level to 0.1%, totally reducing on lvl 4 from 0.5% to 0.4%]. Number os Stacks as well.
Base Agility Nerfed by 3 points!
Well, and introduction for the ones that don't know. The Cangaceiro it's not something of my mind. On Brazil's history, the Cangaceiros were regional bandits/assassins [From the Northeast region]. This means yes, it's a historic figure i'm posting here
Here are some pictures of how the Cangaceiro will loki like. All his clothes and way of getting dressed is here on the following pics.
Our cangaceiro will look like this, however he will be blind of an eye [Right eye], a big hat and a long curly hair. The look of this eye will be like a white eye ball, with no iris and nothing.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4144/cang.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2554/cangaceiro.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2862/cangaceiro2501b.jpghttp://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6417/cangaceiros2.png
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/953/doc5873ba9.jpghttp://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3301/sevrino.jpg
[Last Image it's just to ilustrate the Eye, how it will look like. On the images, the Cangaceiro is already with his weapons.]
Ok, let's go for what it matters! :D
It is an Agility Melee hero [As you guys can see on the prefix], and it's a Hellbourne affiliated one!
Beggining Stats
Strenght: 19 (+2.1)
Agility: 23 (+3) [Primary]
Inteligence: 14 (+1.4)
Attack Speed: 0.59
Movement Speed: 290
Range: Melee
Damage: 45~52
Armor: 3.6
Magic Armor: 4.7
Sounds
"Sunny day!"
"Pinga da boa!"
"Let's see if you're a cabra-macho like me!"
"Dry place"
"*Malefic laugh*"
"I'll make peace with God, after getting rid of you!"
"Pray! Yes, pray!"
"I'll cut your eye off"
****Note: Sounds will be reworked and will be speaken in Brazilian Portuguese
Skill 1 - Dry Life [Passive] *******REWORKED! [Bonuses Nerfed a lot and gained a Night-Period utility]
All his life, the Cangaceiro had wonderer through the hot and arid Caatinga with all it's dificulties. Walking everyday under the hot sun had made him gains familiarity with it, and gaining advantage over the weakers. And under the night, the Cangaceiro always ambushed people.
Level 1 - The Cangaceiro gains 5% movement speed while in Day time, and a Blur Effect [25% Transparency] in Night Time, with 8% Evasion chance.
Level 2 - The Cangaceiro gains 10% movement speed while in Day Time, and a Blur effect while in Night Time [50% Transparency], with 12% Evasion chance.
Level 3 - The Cangaceiro gains 15% movement speed while in Day Time, and a Blur effect while in Night Time [75% Transparency], with 16% Evasion chance.
Level 4 - The Cangaceiro gains 20% movement speed while in Day Time, and a Blur effect while in Night Time [100% Transparency] with 20% Evasion chance.
***Blur Effect will make the Cangaceiro transparent while in Night time [a visual effect], applying dodge chances as well to him, just like Phantom Assassin on DotA . This won't make him with a useless skill half day-time period. [B]Thanks to [I]Brimstorm for the nice sugestion, and Vanarchy for complementing.
Skill 2 - Cabra Macho
Applies Bleeding to target
Consumes 2/3/4/5 Mana per second while active
The Cangaceiro is a cold blood assassin. He don?t fear death, and he have no mercy of their opponents. For every attack the cangaceiro give, it will make the target bleed, plus, the less life his opponents has, greater will be the attack speed of the Cangaceiro against that target. Bleed can stack 2/2/3/3 times and his bleeding attack does not count as orb. [This means Cangaceiro's Attack speed will variate. It depends of the target he is attacking].
Skill level 1 - Target will bleed, taking 6 damage per second for 3 seconds. For every 1% HP missing of the target, the Cangaceiro will get 0.1% more attack speed against him.
Skill level 2 - Target Will bleed, taking 9 damage per second for 3 seconds. For every 1% HP missing of the target, the Cangaceiro Will get 0.2% more attack speed against him.
Skill level 3 - Target Will bleed, taking 12 damage per second for 3 seconds. For every 1% HP missing of the target, the Cangaceiro Will get 0.3% more attack speed against him.
Skill level 4 - The target Will bleed for 15 damage per second for 3second. For every 1% HP missing of the target, the Cangaceiro Will get 0.4% more attack speed against him.
Skill 3 - Cacha?a Shot
Enemy Target
Cooldown 12s
Range is 900
Manacost 150
The Cangaceiro drinks his Cacha?a to concentrate for his next shot. The greater is the sip, the greater is the damage. [Works like DotA?s Alchemist Stun. But the more the Cangaceiro load, the better is the damage, instead of appling stun]. Max time you can hold is 5s.
***Mechanics: A click to activate, another click to shoot.
Skill level 1 - For every 0.5s the Cangaceiro drinks his pinga, +10 damage.
Skill level 2 - For every 0.5s the Cangaceiro drinks his pinga, +20 damage
Skill level 3 - For every 0.5s the Cangaceiro drinks his pinga, +30 damage
Skill level 4 - For every 0.5s the Cangaceiro drinks his pinga, +40 damage
Note: If the Cangaceiro got stunned while drinking, he willshoot it on the moment he was stopped, dealing it's damage. Just like Dotas Alchemist's stun. Once the enemy is targeted, Cangaceiro won't stop channeling even if he goes miles away of distance.
Skill 4 [Ultimate] - Born in the Caatinga
Selectable Area
Cast Range is 400
Area is 400/500/600
Manacost - 150/200/250
Lasts 8s
Cast time is 2s
Cooldown is 80s
The Cangaceiro will emerge from the ground a spiky vegetation on a selected spot. Every cell in the ?rea Will have a cactus-like vegetation. Any enemy that touchs any, Will take damage and that cactus will disappear[Like a bomb exploding as you touch it]. For each cactus touched, a portion of damage is given. The area of the vegetation will also grow as the level goes up, and same to the damage given with the touch. Allies does not take damage from the vegetation, but they also can?t pass though it [unless they deny it or phase]. Only the cangaceiro can phase through it without destroying the vegetation. While inside the Caatinga, the Cangaceiro stays invisible and gains 20% bonus movement speed.
Skill level 1 - For every Touched Vegetation, applies 75 physical damage.
Skill level 2 - For every Touched Vegetation, applies 150 physical damage.
Skill level 3 - For every touched vegetation, applies 225 physical damage.
***Note: Enemies are also enable to walk by on the Caatinga, however everytime they touch a cactus, they will get a damage. The Vegetation is immune to magic.
[B]Till now, special thanks for the following helpers and supporters: Dips, Brimstorm, shion, Vanarchy and everyone else with your approval and suggestion helping.
Azkalas
11-27-2009, 10:34 AM
T-up! :)
Nenoo
11-27-2009, 10:42 AM
what a sh1t, ur a lame for brazilian people
Azkalas
11-27-2009, 10:47 AM
What's the problem with him? lol
Azkalas
11-28-2009, 11:29 AM
Up. :)
Azkalas
11-28-2009, 11:10 PM
And up! ;)
Dips1
11-28-2009, 11:31 PM
what a sh1t, ur a lame for brazilian people
LOL?
Better Nenoo start read more and search things about the Canga?o.
;(
/noob spotted.
BTW, VERY NICE HERO.
Azkalas
11-29-2009, 07:37 AM
T-Up.
Harllequin
11-29-2009, 12:14 PM
Lol, the skills are great :]
Azkalas
11-29-2009, 12:42 PM
Hah, ty sir! ^^
Please, if you are to vote no, before doing post why, and leave me a chance to argue! :)
HkNFrost
11-29-2009, 12:56 PM
29 base agi + 3 per level? Reduce a little and maybe he get a chance. (The base or the agi per level, whatever)
Azkalas
11-29-2009, 01:23 PM
Sure. :)
Azkalas
11-29-2009, 01:24 PM
Reduced by 3. :)
HkNFrost
11-29-2009, 02:25 PM
T-up, i liked the ulti
rtenorio88
11-29-2009, 02:28 PM
i like.
Azkalas
11-29-2009, 07:59 PM
Haha, ty for all your support, people! Please, if you dislike something let me know what before voting "no"! :) Once again, ty for all the ones voting favor! :)
Mhynx
11-30-2009, 12:31 AM
Nicee!
I like.
Azkalas
11-30-2009, 10:40 AM
Ty Mhynx! :)
Rordarok
11-30-2009, 11:30 AM
Looks, nais :D,
T-up!
Azkalas
11-30-2009, 04:40 PM
Heh, ty Rordarok! :)
Azkalas
11-30-2009, 09:04 PM
Go up, my son! :) lol
LateGame
11-30-2009, 09:10 PM
what a sh1t, ur a lame for brazilian people
someone ban this noob... i think he fails at life for being a racist b*tch
T-Up
same as before.. no more agi heroes please... change him to str... agi carries overpopulate the game
Azkalas
11-30-2009, 09:17 PM
Hmmm, can't change. There's no sense for the concept of this guy being a Strenght hero. :/ Like the Captain i also did. Though, i have some Heros created on my comp, and none is agility. Only Int and Strenght heroes. If i get enough vote to have my heroes on the Popular Sugestion, i'll post others here [And believe me, i really have nice thing to post on the future. You have my word on that. :P].
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 10:42 AM
And up! :)
Talde
12-01-2009, 10:52 AM
Up. =]
shion
12-01-2009, 11:49 AM
Nice hero, but i think he has so much movespeed nerf it for the balance!
tkueda
12-01-2009, 12:01 PM
nice hero
UPP
I liked the idea and skills seems pretty cool.
I vote yes!
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 12:27 PM
Well. The idea is fast moving, like Balanar on DotA when the Night comes. However Balanar can turn the day into night any time, and Cangaceiro can't. Also, scout gains 25% movements speed + invisible and you don't call him unbalanced. Why Cangaceiro's 25% Movement Speed up without invis it's not balanced? ^^'
chester_nvg
12-01-2009, 12:27 PM
nice!
Teddy_oPolvo
12-01-2009, 12:33 PM
I'm as a brazilliam should say that it would be a really nice hero
I think it just needs some adjusts on its atributtes, but a really nice concept, his ultimate appears really nice...
I just think his sounds should be in portuguese, as vodoo's are in spanish, it woulb be a lot better and funnier
mikoju
12-01-2009, 12:37 PM
catinga rules hahsahashas nice but you need nerf
CABRAMACHo hasshasahashashhasashhassa
Fegom
12-01-2009, 12:39 PM
Very Cool Hero, im from Northeast region, The most famous Cangaceiros has the name of Lampiao
mikoju
12-01-2009, 12:44 PM
good the name for this hero could be Lampiao
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm as a brazilliam should say that it would be a really nice hero
I think it just needs some adjusts on its atributtes, but a really nice concept, his ultimate appears really nice...
I just think his sounds should be in portuguese, as vodoo's are in spanish, it woulb be a lot better and funnier
Indeed. Accepting Sugestions. ;)
sure i want see him... =)
I'm from brazil.. but i came from south =D
nomercyful
12-01-2009, 01:03 PM
very nice man, it would be nice to have a brazilian 'touch' in this game. keep doing a good job. i vote yes.
I'm as a brazilliam should say that it would be a really nice hero
I think it just needs some adjusts on its atributtes, but a really nice concept, his ultimate appears really nice...
I just think his sounds should be in portuguese, as vodoo's are in spanish, it woulb be a lot better and funnier
Oh yeah... +D
mixing races on HoN =)
Up
Teddy_oPolvo
12-01-2009, 01:16 PM
If you guys need some translations we could do that...
Portuguese sounds would be cool
Sieg_
12-01-2009, 01:40 PM
congratulations for the idea man you really got my t-up
just need some balances to fir perfectly in the game, but would be sweet to have a brazilian touch in hon.
LULA FTW!
Ninguem
12-01-2009, 01:50 PM
this hero need be in the game
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 01:55 PM
Ty for all the supports! Once again, post sugestions and we can argue about any possibility of changing! :P
LordMoldaor
12-01-2009, 02:39 PM
on objection...
on brazillian northeast we dont say "pinga"
it's cacha?a
maybe "branquinha" too... =p but normally "cacha?a"
PsykedeLiscH
12-01-2009, 02:45 PM
/\ hahahahahhahaha
lol
but his ultimate... i dont know... he already have a skill that increases his movespeed..
problably if in caatinga he get some dmg, reduce enemies armor, reduce enemies ms..
put some sinergy on his ult...
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 02:52 PM
I was going to put cacha?a, but Pinga it's more easy to say, I guess. Still, easy to change. :P I'll do it.
Pinga it's a word they can speak more easily... even though "cacha?a" is a word much better and more fun... =)
I prefer "cacha?a" than "Pinga"
Blaky039
12-01-2009, 03:03 PM
Pinga means dick in my country D: (I'm from Costa Rica)
Kalk5
12-01-2009, 03:23 PM
interesting ulti very nice :D
but the rest looks like a 0815 agi carry and in hon there are enough maybe make him a str hero?
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 05:29 PM
Pinga means dick in my country D: (I'm from Costa Rica)
lmao! Changed! :P
ViTiN
12-01-2009, 05:29 PM
Yes, Brazil needs a hero, because our Politicians are sinking our country \o\
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 05:30 PM
Kalk, it would lose the concept. As i said, they were regional bandits/assassins/pillagers. You can imagine a Bandit tanking? Heh...
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 05:30 PM
Yes, Brazil needs a hero, because our Piloticians are sinking our country \o\
Indeed, LMAO! :P
Lula is a fag.
leonwe1
12-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Nice
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 06:30 PM
And thanks! ^^
MetalElfe
12-01-2009, 06:57 PM
T-up
very nice hero
Spirit4
12-01-2009, 07:09 PM
Very nice hero, something including alcohool will be very funny, nice idea, voted!@
Azkalas
12-01-2009, 08:10 PM
Thanks! :D
pablo000
12-01-2009, 08:12 PM
oxente... yes!
nice hero friend :D
Kikuxa
12-01-2009, 08:53 PM
Why not? Looks fun to play with him.
what a sh1t, ur a lame for brazilian people
And the Brazilian can speak better English than this idiot.
I love the idea of another hero with a Spanish accent; Voodoo's is just too great xP
Brimstorm1
12-01-2009, 10:23 PM
I gave you some suggestions, hope you consider it. (@ orkut :D)
Dips1
12-01-2009, 11:07 PM
I think thsi hero can just jump the Popular Sugestions foruns and go directly to the Hall of Fame.
Look that rate!
To amazing to be true.
Luuckas
12-02-2009, 01:21 AM
Ow lawd
**** yeah !
Luydin
12-02-2009, 04:29 AM
u have my axe
RedLabel1
12-02-2009, 05:58 AM
Nice hero, but i think he has so much movespeed nerf it for the balance![2]
SoerenRyge
12-02-2009, 06:20 AM
Just to clarify, can The Cangaceiro walk into Caatinga normally, or does he have to phase to walk into it? How long does the extra 20 % from Caatinga last? Potentially with Steamboots, he can walk 525, and with Ghostmarchers he can walk 540. Both then resulting in max movementspeed at 522. But other than this I like the hero :D.
_Deadly_
12-02-2009, 07:50 AM
WoW!!
cangaceiro is Great!!
I Love brazilian histories
BTW... bye
Clasen
12-02-2009, 09:31 AM
Up *-*
Nick_Random
12-02-2009, 11:03 AM
I really enjoy this suggestion :D
Cigano
12-02-2009, 01:12 PM
how long will caatinga be at the map?
CAIU_07
12-02-2009, 02:15 PM
Nice hero!
some balances and done!
btw, I prefer Cacha?a than Pinga,
I think foreign ppl know the brand as Chacha?a,
that is used to make CAIPIRINHA!
Teboga
12-02-2009, 02:57 PM
I just think his sounds should be in portuguese, as vodoo's are in spanish, it woulb be a lot better and funnier
I second this, his sounds must be all in portuguese.
Cheers.
Renaxe
12-02-2009, 02:59 PM
great ideia!
yes yes yes1
Mathz0r
12-02-2009, 03:18 PM
I enjoy the concept, but I dont see any sinergy at all :l
btw, I loved the first skill and his ultimate, that will help in team battles, but I think u should rework the 2 and 3 skill. T-Up.
Azkalas
12-02-2009, 03:36 PM
Everything about the Caatinga is on the skill, guys! Cangaceiro can phae through the Caatinga, and while in it he get invisible. Enemies can walk through the caatinga, but they take damage per touch in each of the plant and that plant, after applying it's damage will vanish [Physical, meaning armor reduces the damage]. The 20% Movement Speed from Caatinga is only applied INSIDE it, once the Cangaceiro steps out, he will be visible and will love the 20% movement speed.
Allies of Cangaceiro CAN'T PASS THROUGH THE VEGETATION UNLESS THE DENY IT [Only Allies of the cangaceiro can deny it. The Cangaceiro and his enemies can't.
The Movement Speed buff from the first skill LASTS ONLY IN DAY TIME [Same for the Attack Speed], Like Balanar in DotA [But Balanar is at night]. Meaning Cangaceiro can hit a high moving and attack speed while in Day Time, but getting into normal at night [Like if the first sskill doesn't exists].
The Caatinga will last 8 seconds!
And a detail, damage reflection of barbed armor on the vegetation will not be reflected on cangaceiro, of course.
GezuizNegaum
12-02-2009, 05:01 PM
I loved this hero but he really need his agi nerfed...
And i would really love his sounds to be in portuguese like when you click to walk he says something like "ARRE ?GUA!" or when you click to attack he says "CABRA DA PESTE!!"
Azkalas
12-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Yeah, i'll rework on his sounds any time! :)
Azkalas
12-02-2009, 05:26 PM
Base Agility Nerfed by 3 points
shion
12-02-2009, 06:07 PM
Sup nigga I would like to reply the update of your thanks so I can thank while u r thanking.
LordMoldaor
12-02-2009, 06:15 PM
Some more suggestion...
ussually "cangaceiros" done their actions only in group
some skill should endorse this
some passive skill that grants bonus when the hero have allies near him
and that shoul help him to a "clash" between teams =p
--------------------------------------------------
brazzillian guys shoul look this
People of other countrie can try to translate, but that will not be so good
as in original language
and listen to te song below the lyrics
http://maryvillano.blogspot.com/2009/01/rasga-rabo-bagunador-de-baguna.html
Azkalas
12-02-2009, 06:35 PM
I thought of that, Lord, when i was first creating him. though it wasn't being as a team buff, and yes he would summon 2 cangaceiros. Just changed my mind. There was other point I could use instead the group part.
Anyway, the sugestion it is good for sure, and thank you for adding it. :) Still I guess now it's not time for radical changes. Just if it's for a balance [Like Brimstorm did for the first skill]. However, i think he is getting well balanced already.
Doidin
12-02-2009, 08:21 PM
looks nice.
Dips1
12-02-2009, 09:57 PM
BTW, i guess the better idea for the sounds, maybe the hero creator can do it!
Why not?
Will be fun he rec it and send to the staff.
The cangaceiro creator have his voice on it. And i asure you, will be fun.
gambler
12-03-2009, 12:02 AM
Cangaceiros had accent from the northeast, arid regions from Brazil. It's very difficult to imitate. His name should be "Lampiao", who was the most famous cangaceiro, a brazillian version of Billy the Kid.
Frey27
12-03-2009, 08:48 AM
FODAAA vai ser muito loko
Metallicaio1
12-03-2009, 09:05 AM
realy Nice!
I am brazilian, and it would be great to have this hero in Hon!
Azkalas
12-03-2009, 09:06 AM
Ty supporters! :)
pedrothin
12-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Good one, i'm BR too.
GJ man
Vanarchy
12-03-2009, 04:13 PM
The main thing I like about your hero are the names of abilities, they are very stylish and overall look of the Cangaceiro makes me smile (not ironically smile, just positively). I think it's possible to see him in the game, such characters have their own charisma.
As for skills, first skill is very cool, but transparency of hero without evasion is not right. Cangaceiro can get bonus to attack speed from second skill already, I suggest removing constant 15% AS from Dry Life and adding 8/12/16/20% evasion during night time. Also Movement Speed bonus at day time can also be improved to 20% at skill level 4.
Cabra Macho and Born in the Caatinga are good, but third skill should be different IMO. My point is: he has 1 skill that improves AS and one skill that improves MS, which makes him a good chaser, but third skill means he has to stop the chase and channel the alchemist's nuke, bonuses to AS and MS are just wasted during this time. Will he be able to finish enemy with it? Ofcourse that will happen from time to time. But does it synergise with his other abilities? During the ultimate I would prefer simply attacking the enemy because it's hard for him to get away - and putting a stacking bleed effect on the enemy + up to 5 seconds of attacking with increased attack speed instead of up to 5 seconds of channeling seems wiser decision.
All in all, T-up, but think about my words. :)
Azkalas
12-03-2009, 04:28 PM
The main thing I like about your hero are the names of abilities, they are very stylish and overall look of the Cangaceiro makes me smile (not ironically smile, just positively). I think it's possible to see him in the game, such characters have their own charisma.
As for skills, first skill is very cool, but transparency of hero without evasion is not right. Cangaceiro can get bonus to attack speed from second skill already, I suggest removing constant 15% AS from Dry Life and adding 8/12/16/20% evasion during night time. Also Movement Speed bonus at day time can also be improved to 20% at skill level 4.
Cabra Macho and Born in the Caatinga are good, but third skill should be different IMO. My point is: he has 1 skill that improves AS and one skill that improves MS, which makes him a good chaser, but third skill means he has to stop the chase and channel the alchemist's nuke, bonuses to AS and MS are just wasted during this time. Will he be able to finish enemy with it? Ofcourse that will happen from time to time. But does it synergise with his other abilities? During the ultimate I would prefer simply attacking the enemy because it's hard for him to get away - and putting a stacking bleed effect on the enemy + up to 5 seconds of attacking with increased attack speed instead of up to 5 seconds of channeling seems wiser decision.
All in all, T-up, but think about my words. :)
Constructive and good comment. Prolly i'll consider it and make some changed for the first skill.
About the shot skill, tha main idea is shot from the jungle to the lane [Since it's range is 900 on max level]. It locks target, meaning it doesn't matter how the guy will run, it will take the shot.
I'm being currently messaged but lots of people, that also wants to somehow change this ability. Ppl asked me to lower the damage and put up a slow percentage wich increase per hold while channeling [The best suggestion till now for that].
hoylguyyy
12-03-2009, 06:04 PM
Ronaldo, its very good and kinda balanced, queima rapariga! ele devia falar isso tamb?m XDDDDD
ShadeZero
12-03-2009, 06:42 PM
Man, reeeeeeally nice hero. Loved it.
A comunidade brasileira no HoN devia apoi?-lo em peso! ^^
mikoju
12-03-2009, 08:33 PM
the fist skill
i think it could be
Skill 1 - Dry Life [Passive]
All his life, the Cangaceiro had wonderer through the hot and arid Caatinga with all it's dificulties. Walking everyday under the hot sun had made him gains familiarity with it, and gaining advantage over the weakers. And under the night, the Cangaceiro always ambushed people.
Level 1 - The Cangaceiro gains 5% movement speed while in Day time, and a Blur Effect [25% Transparency] in Night Time, with 8% Evasion chance.
Level 2 - The Cangaceiro gains 10% movement speed while in Day Time, and a Blur effect while in Night Time [50% Transparency], with 10% Evasion chance. (from 12)
Level 3 - The Cangaceiro gains 15% movement speed while in Day Time, and a Blur effect while in Night Time [75% Transparency], with 14% Evasion chance. (from 16)
Level 4 - The Cangaceiro gains 20% movement speed while in Day Time, and a Blur effect while in Night Time [100% Transparency] with 18% Evasion chance. (from 20)
Kaliuz
12-04-2009, 01:04 AM
Great hero! I'd love to see a brazilian character in the game.
Also, the skills are great and pretty much balanced.
My only suggestion is to add a slow or small stun to Cacha?a Shot, also proportional to channeling time, just to improve it a little bit to compensate the long channeling time.
Anyway, I really liked it. Thumbs up from me :)
Boa sorte ai :D, Se puder dar uma olhada no meu her?i tamb?m e comentar, s? clicar no link na minha assinatura.
Aarne
12-04-2009, 04:15 AM
Biig reed YES!!!!
BugBear
12-05-2009, 07:01 AM
Cangaceiro POORRAAAAAA
Azkalas
12-05-2009, 08:46 AM
Lot`s of people have been asking me to add a slow percentage on the Shot skill. I`m reconsidering it and i`m on to change on the next days. Of course, the damage will suffer a reduction. And also i`ll rework it`s range, making it grow per level, instead of having the same range from level 1 to 4.
:)
Shiyzu
12-05-2009, 04:44 PM
Dude, for sure I liked your hero. I'm brazillian and this hero sounds quite stylish. A big yes for it.
I just think the hero quotes should be in portuguese (same as voodoo jester, but with the typical northeast accent).
The cacha?a shot (the name sounds odd to me...anyway...) sounds wierd, just cus if you drink a lot of pinga, you won't be able to even stand, shoot someone is kinda imposible. This skill will sound better if you add a "drunken penalty" with a lil higher offensive effect (like accuracy and speed loss after using the skill, and a lil change on his quotes would be great, hehehe). Or, you could add an "ambush like" ability on that skill, and removing the blur effect from Dry Life and adding it as a side effect of using this skill near trees (which sounds more likely with Cangaceiros) and opening ways of linking this skill with his ultimate (i know it's not clear, but i can explain it when my head stop acheing).
But it's a really nice hero with tons of possibilities ^^
Azkalas
12-06-2009, 09:33 AM
Dude, for sure I liked your hero. I'm brazillian and this hero sounds quite stylish. A big yes for it.
I just think the hero quotes should be in portuguese (same as voodoo jester, but with the typical northeast accent).
The cacha?a shot (the name sounds odd to me...anyway...) sounds wierd, just cus if you drink a lot of pinga, you won't be able to even stand, shoot someone is kinda imposible. This skill will sound better if you add a "drunken penalty" with a lil higher offensive effect (like accuracy and speed loss after using the skill, and a lil change on his quotes would be great, hehehe). Or, you could add an "ambush like" ability on that skill, and removing the blur effect from Dry Life and adding it as a side effect of using this skill near trees (which sounds more likely with Cangaceiros) and opening ways of linking this skill with his ultimate (i know it's not clear, but i can explain it when my head stop acheing).
But it's a really nice hero with tons of possibilities ^^
Hehe, thank for the productive comment! Indeed, his voices will be in Portuguese, I`ll be adapting this in the future. About the Third skill, something might change on it as well! :)
Thanks! (For the comment AND the suggestions!)
Shiyzu
12-06-2009, 02:49 PM
NP ^^
I like the way people create heroes for games like HON. So many ways of using it's engine. But your hero is really nice (something like Sniper + Alch with a little of Lanaya). It's nice...if you want me to explain what I said later just pm me...
I'm working on my own hero suggestion on Sandbox...it's a tricky job cus she have MANY playstyles...and I'm not sure S2 have the resources on HON to implement she =/
Azkalas
12-07-2009, 02:00 PM
Hehe, no Shyzu, i got you! ^^ And thanks for the nice comment, friend! :)
Methredhel
12-07-2009, 02:19 PM
T-down
Zanelato
12-07-2009, 10:11 PM
UP !! Go Go Cangaceiro !!
simongini
12-08-2009, 08:42 AM
ofcourse YES! this hero is AMAZING!
Azkalas
12-08-2009, 09:02 AM
Ty supporters! :)
CASchneider
12-08-2009, 06:13 PM
Very nice. UP
xSmkGx
12-09-2009, 05:23 AM
Nice heroe :)
sladex
12-09-2009, 11:56 AM
very good hero
heroi nacional merece entra no HoN
Azkalas
12-10-2009, 10:57 AM
Up, boy! :)
PiXeL_NiNja
12-11-2009, 02:48 AM
Brazillians are forest dwellers on crack if they think a hero like this will be made.
Following reasons that our friends from the jungle book will never see this hero implemented:
- This heroes spells are all powerful enough to be ults.
- i dont think this chupacabra (http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=ef0&ei=PfghS5vzMo2e4Qady_j5CQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CBMQBSgA&q=chupacabra&spell=1) fits well into the Newerth universe.
Keep farming your arroz and feijao in your daddys treehouse in the jungle.
if you want a real hero with an actual chance to be implemented try this one:
zygomycetes The Fungus King (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=34764)
Dips1
12-12-2009, 11:40 AM
Brazillians are forest dwellers on crack if they think a hero like this will be made.
Following reasons that our friends from the jungle book will never see this hero implemented:
- This heroes spells are all powerful enough to be ults.
- i dont think this chupacabra (http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=ef0&ei=PfghS5vzMo2e4Qady_j5CQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CBMQBSgA&q=chupacabra&spell=1) fits well into the Newerth universe.
Keep farming your arroz and feijao in your daddys treehouse in the jungle.
if you want a real hero with an actual chance to be implemented try this one:
zygomycetes The Fungus King (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=34764)
I just think you are really stupid to say something about this hero and the brazilian people. If you have something against brazilian people, please, its better you stay with your mouth closed. And to be worst, you are in the supporters S2games guys team, so, another reason to shut up saying stupidities.
Go revise your argues and call your mom to bring a little bit of soap to wash your mouth and see if you be more gently.
Behind a screen, everyone be A MEN. ^^
Azkalas
12-12-2009, 05:54 PM
Actually. i just passed through the Tarzan [aka "Rage X"] a few comments above. Brazilian ppl live in jungle? So bad, Sao Paulo is on the TOP 5 bigger cities in the World, and i might add it`s not a Lagos before you flame this.
Another thing, i guess you`re from the jungle. I can see the way you are acting here on this topic, monkey. Nobody missed respect with you, so chill, Kong. The only user with a treehouse residence in the whole HoN forum is prolly you. :)
Another thing. "All the skill can be ult", dude, get a life instead of flaming due to your personal prejudice. Or, if you disliked, learn how to be polite to use a forum and post your opinions for a productive discussion.
fungee
12-12-2009, 06:02 PM
BRBRBRBR! q ?†††і (never had a good game with Brazilian people)
on topic: Why not? Looks like a good suggestion (unless it's a conspiracy by the Brazilians I'll have no regrets for voting yes). Numbers still need working but I voted yes for the nice concept.
Azkalas
12-12-2009, 06:08 PM
Thanks. I`m still accepting suggestions for the number btw. :)
Squil
12-12-2009, 06:56 PM
Really nice, must be implemented
PS: And about the Rage_X comment... why in hell do u think brazilians live in forests and trees? That dont make any sense.
obstacle_1
12-13-2009, 06:28 AM
I like the skillset, but the concept HAS NOTHING TO DOWITH NEWERTH WORLD!
SolarFlare22
12-13-2009, 06:34 AM
THE COLOURS they hurt my eyes
Shiyzu
12-13-2009, 06:39 PM
LoL...I really love when people flame brazillians...it's so funny...
And if that has nothing to do with Newerth World...for sure that engeneer dude have (oh...let me guess...a stupid american dude wrote his script...but there's no need to tell that right?)
And about that guy flaming...a giant 'shrom? Let me guess...his attacks causes sepsis and mycosis? For sure I loled...
But enough of flame...
Azkalas
12-14-2009, 04:46 PM
lol Shizyu :P
all right, my opinions
for those who say that he has nothing to do with the HoN enviroment, I disagree. See, he's a bandit that lives in the arid regions, is cruel and likes alcohol... it fits ANYWHERE. We have pharaohs, we have aliens (many of them, by the way), we have a ghost of the desert, we have a... hell I don't even know for sure what magmus is! So, why can't we have a bandit?
furthermore, I think you should consider turning him into a str hero. I understand your concept but I don't think a str hero implies necessarly that he would be a tank. Think about rampage, he's a hero killer not a tanker. And magmus also, you don't go ahead of your team to tank with magmus, you stay back and arrives with your ult. Nevertheless, cangaceiros are well-known for being resilient, ain't it? You could keep the hero just the way he's now, but with str, it would chage too much , I guess.
And, is Cachaca Shot true damage? magic? i think it should be magic, because he has none of it.
Azkalas
12-16-2009, 10:19 AM
Ty for the nice feedback, Parp. Just tell me why do you really think he should be an Strenght Character than. I'm curious! ^^
About the shot, i'll do something about it. Enjoyed your suggestion of making it Magic.
Well, I think there's already too many carriers AGI like this one. For me, he's similar to Scout, and not just because of the shot skill, but the concept of gameplay. Maybe it's just my impression.
But i'm also thinking in his balance: Consider his skill Cabra Macho... the more damage you give to the hero, the more AS you have, and considering the bleed efect of 45 dmg/second... pretty powerfull, h?n? But there is more; since he's an AGI hero, you'll buy itens that increases agility and it will boost your damage and AS even more. If he's a STR hero, you may buy STR itens that will boost your dmg and HP, but not your AS, leaving this to the skill; or you can buy dmg itens or AS itens but... you know, that's not the same.
Azkalas
12-16-2009, 08:37 PM
Well, i got your point and gotta say i may agree with that. I'll consider it. [Just disagree about being similar to Scout xD]
Dips1
12-20-2009, 01:23 PM
T-Up! s2
I don't know why people insist on bringing personal matters on a hero creation. I mean, "OMG A BRAZILIAN HERO YES YES YES" without even thinking on his skills is just as wrong as disliking him for the same reason.
As far as I'm concerned, he's a bandit guy, that lived on desert-like regions, right? It doesn't matter if it's on Brazil, Netherlands or Japan; Newerth doesn't have the same countries as we do (or does it?). That's why I don't believe there shoudl be any "cultural" barrier.
You must remember that S2 does not implement our suggestions without making the changes they consider aproppiate. That's why I'm more concerned about his skills than if he looks like a chupacabra or not. A bandit guy is a bandit guy.
And I liked the first skill pretty much.
The second, I don't know. I don't really liked the damage bonus the way it is... maybe you should increase a little the base dmg and remove the Stack properties (45dmg per second for 3 seconds... for 5 mana... it hurts).
The third skill... I think it should be just like alchemist's stun, and not a reworked version of it.
His ult, I really liked it. You see, you cast it and enemy heroes have to choose between exploding themselves or fight the Cangaceiro (that will gain boosts on the area). But at the same time, it's not overpower because melee allied heros would have problems to get there, and the enemy heros can still blink, swap, stun, or do wathever they can do to get out of there. Or just stay fighting, if they had a good early. I just didn't like the idea of him staying invisible... I think he should gain MS and AS bonus only, or something like that, that would make fighting him a baaad idea, but not impossible.
masschickens
12-21-2009, 04:48 PM
lol at this idea. where did you get the idea to put a civil war looking soldier in hon. where would he fit in with all the other heros. then to top it off you give him the most random abilities i've ever seen that make no sense whatsoever. all american players will not know what any of his moves mean. make a real hero
Beace
12-21-2009, 06:19 PM
I don't like this hero based on the fact that only one of his skills is based around the day/night cycle, all or nothing imo, unless his skillset is centered around that skill, which it isn't. Going to have to be neutral here.
OhBob
02-12-2010, 01:30 PM
what a sh1t, ur a lame for brazilian people
Kind of guy that makes everyone mad. He has no brain, he jus says yay or nay. And grunts.
OhBob
02-12-2010, 01:33 PM
Up, but third skill sucks. Second one was really well made =)
up
and then? This idea doesn't go?
UndeR47
03-06-2010, 07:51 PM
Up!!!
SeuBunecoFL
03-11-2010, 03:33 PM
UP!!!
Kaliuz
03-24-2010, 08:50 AM
Great! Thumbs up