Soulstealer's Demon Hand

[Spiriax]

Anybody else notice the delay when using Soulstealer's Demon Hand spells? (Nevermore Shadowraze) The animation is a bit longer.
Was it intended for the sake of balance?

[TheConquero1]

It is a bit longer, but the area it hits seems alot more generous than it was in DotA, at least to me.

It's a minor issue really.

[Azureflames]

It is a bit longer, but the area it hits seems alot more generous than it was in DotA, at least to me.

It's a minor issue really.

I think that the radius is the same, not positive though. The graphic just makes it look bigger.

[_Archangel_]

He takes so damn long to turn around, fix this please S2!

In DotA, you can click in the direction and tap Z/X/C right away to get a Raze where you want it; in HoN you click and tap Z/X/C (I remapped them, D/F/G are stupid hotkeys) and he'll stop mid-turn to cast the Demon Hand - and it shoots off sideways instead of where you want it. Stupid.

This isn't a QQ, it doesn't actually make it any harder to aim the Demon Hand - it's just inconvenient that you have to grow a beard waiting while he turns around before you can Demon Hand the right place

[Glorify1]

It's the same, the animation is just different thus making it seem longer.

[willtsay]

have had some problems with it, but you definitely cant spam it as quickly -> tried when i was farming on creeps -> pressed g then f but f doesnt hit, takes too long -> must use d. didnt have this problem in DotA. where you could chain it off quite quickly. turn rate is def. a lil weird too XP

[Glorify1]

I've never had a problem spamming it, turning seems fine, the only time it's weird is when the pathing ****s up and turns you somewhere you're not expecting.

[Himura1]

it is slightly slower then in dota..... tried spamming on creep waves =\

and ya his turning speed is -____-;

[McNinja]

Funny thing, I feel the absolute opposite about Soulstealer. Hes one of my fav and most played, and he feels very fluid instead of slow/sluggish. His nuke does have a much prettier and noticeable effect, and on large screens (i assume) everything is slightly bigger.

[Dick_Assman]

Always said that HoN-Nevermore seems sluggish, but seems to have a larger radius (I've killed alot of heroes outside of the animation, might be due to lag but doubt it), and if youre facing the right way you can spam and/or time it without problems, I've killed a vanish-scout who was harrasing me that way, allthough I had wards.

The turning speed is whats bugging me, if Riki starts raping your backside and pops a cloud, youre most likley dead if you dont have a lothars to escape with.

[weeD`SuFFo]

I cant believe that none of you even remember the worst thing about the soulstealer "razes". You just can't cancel with H/S(dota, pro play, hi), and its so stupid cuz sometimes u know u wont hit anything, but u just cant go back and cancel ur action. Same with pyro's stun, feel so stupid to play these heroes here in HoN, in a competitive level it makes a lot of difference.

[xahxah]

I cant believe that none of you even remember the worst thing about the soulstealer "razes". You just can't cancel with H/S(dota, pro play, hi), and its so stupid cuz sometimes u know u wont hit anything, but u just cant go back and cancel ur action. Same with pyro's stun, feel so stupid to play these heroes here in HoN, in a competitive level it makes a lot of difference.


Animation canceling is a "exploit" of sorts that was most likely never intended in the first place, but ended up being a staple in competitive play because it was a "skill" rather than an "exploit" (like combos in Street Fighter way back when).



Don't know S2's view on this though.

[Terry]

IMO, Soulstealer is much much slower compared to nevermore. Both attack animation and movement.