View Full Version : Gravekeeper's Defiling Touch
Spankle
07-01-2012, 09:45 AM
I propose to make Defiling Touch on GraveKeeper a toggle similar to spells like volcanic touch, where toggling disables the ability not stores it like FA's skeles.
Reasoning for balance - Nothing is more frustrating than running through the jungle and noticing it is X:50. You go to stack a camp, but alas, it is night time, those precious little catmen are in a deep slumber, and you have a charge on E and drop a corpse in to the camp. GraveKeeper is the only hero in the game that can't stack a jungle camp due to an autoattack ability.
If you have a charge on E, and disable it, you could even make the charge consume and not be available when the ability is turned back on should you feel the need.
Not a huge change but one i feel is required for the super balanced game we all crave. Unless of course GK was meant to be a hero that has trouble stacking? LOL
SO NEWERTHIANS! Vote yes for proposition Death Stack today!
chaos763
07-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Too true. Unfortunately, I'm unsure if this is fit to place in Miscellaneous.
This should be implemented!
Spankle
07-01-2012, 12:41 PM
Well it's not hero draft or an item. Misc gameplay is the only thing that fits. It's a gameplay mechanic. Thanks for the support!!
TACretAw
07-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Good idea
shigostorm
07-02-2012, 07:12 AM
love the idea, i even think a lot of people who play GK as support dont even know why they can't stack, me for instance didn't think of it myself untill i tried it out in practice :D
i think this might be one of the reasons we dont see GK in competitive play cause its all about making the carry farm which stacking is needed for.
Ahimtar
07-02-2012, 07:46 AM
i think this is more like a bugfix than an actual idea. but nice.
Wyverex
07-02-2012, 07:50 AM
Thumbs up for this bugfix/idea
Spankle
07-02-2012, 05:08 PM
I wouldn't classify it as a bug only because it is an intended mechanic of the skill which stop the creep spawn. The only way to get rid of this would either be to disable the ability as I suggested or to completely change the coding of the projectile left by defiling touch to not be a "corpse" or any type of gadget that prevents creep spawn.
Keep the votes coming guys lets get this implemented ASAP!
Sherwood
07-02-2012, 07:31 PM
It's a small logical mechanic that should be implemented. I hope people don't disagree because "it's not glamorous".
Artic
07-02-2012, 07:48 PM
FYI: you can attack from point-blank to pick up the corpse immediately after tossing it (so you stack like you're a melee hero).
That said it should be toggleable for convenience.
Spankle
07-02-2012, 08:43 PM
FYI: you can attack from point-blank to pick up the corpse immediately after tossing it (so you stack like you're a melee hero).
That said it should be toggleable for convenience.
Well yes obviously, and I do that when possible. I'm talking those last second stacks where you barely make it to the camp on time. Not intentional waiting/stacking.
Thanks for the up
Almost halfway there!!!
Sherwood
07-03-2012, 10:43 AM
It can be slow for suggestions like these due to the title of the threads aren't exciting and this forum section isn't busy. Though 13 votes in 3 days is very nice. I don't think you'll have problems.
-long winded bump
ElementUser
07-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Looks good to me, I scripted the change and hopefully it will be approved :)
Spankle
07-03-2012, 01:19 PM
Woohoo! Thanks ElementUser!
F34Re
07-04-2012, 02:49 PM
Great idea!
Skyve
07-06-2012, 11:48 AM
I made that suggestion back when he was released, certainly should be added, because as it is it certainly is a pain in the... grave.
Wolfoy
07-24-2012, 10:50 AM
I propose to make Defiling Touch on GraveKeeper a toggle similar to spells like volcanic touch, where toggling disables the ability not stores it like FA's skeles.
Reasoning for balance - Nothing is more frustrating than running through the jungle and noticing it is X:50. You go to stack a camp, but alas, it is night time, those precious little catmen are in a deep slumber, and you have a charge on E and drop a corpse in to the camp. GraveKeeper is the only hero in the game that can't stack a jungle camp due to an autoattack ability.
If you have a charge on E, and disable it, you could even make the charge consume and not be available when the ability is turned back on should you feel the need.
Not a huge change but one i feel is required for the super balanced game we all crave. Unless of course GK was meant to be a hero that has trouble stacking? LOL
SO NEWERTHIANS! Vote yes for proposition Death Stack today!
Rampage has a similar problem...with his passive bash. I think this change should also be applied to Rampage.
Xedrin
08-17-2012, 04:33 AM
If it's day, stack with proximity.
If it's night, stand next to them and throw the corpse, waking the camp and instantly picking the corpse up, and then walk out.
And don't tell me there's no time, it's very easy. If a melee hero can do it, Gravekeeper can do it.
ElementUser
02-17-2013, 10:40 PM
Just letting you know...this was already implemented a while ago :) move to Hall of Fame please