Eliar (Goblin Techies+my ideas)

[Kenpachi`]

Name: Eliar
Description: The fate of Eliar was closely intertwined with the fate of Zephyr together they refused to participate in the Beast Horde's war with the humans, they were best friends until the forces of Hellbourne are not captured Eliar to use his unique abilities for their own purposes but the Zephyr pulled his friend from prison and is now embarked on Eliar side of the Legion in this war.
Appearance: Looks like a white eagle wings of the main part of the body golden.
Attack animation: With the wave of the wing throws feather. Feather explodes.
Faction: Legion
Attack Range 650
Strength 17 (+1.7)
Agility 14 (+1.6)
Intelligence 22 (+3.2)

Skills:


1)Feather mine.
Objective: To place
Cd.: 25/20/15/12
Mana Cost: 125/150/175/205
Eliar puts a feather mine that explode when approaching the enemy. Feathers are invisible to the enemy. (Caste 1 sec.)
Level 1 - 300 dmg.
Level 2 - 400 dmg.
Level 3 - 500 dmg.
Level 4 - 600 dmg.
Max number of mines:15

2) Suicide
Cd.: 65 sec.
Mana Cost: 200/300/400
Eliar detonates all the feathers on his body causing damage to the enemy.
Level 1 - Deals 650 damage.
Level 2 - Deals 850 damage.
Level 3 - Deals 1150 damage.
Level 4 - Deals 1550 damage.

3) Shot feathers
Objective: To place
Cd: 9 sec
Mana Cost: 75/100/125/175
Eliar throws throws feathers that after 0.5 sec explodes stunning enemies in range for some period of time
Level 1 - 1.0 sec.
Level 2 - 2.0sec.
Level 3 - 3,0 sec.
Level 4 - 4,0 sec.


4) The explosion of weapons
Purpose: enemy hero
Range: 700
Cd: 135.0 seconds
Mana Cost: 250 / 360 / 500
Eliar produces many feathers in the direction causing damage and disarming enemies.
Level 1 - Deals 300 dmg. disarms by 1.50 seconds
Level 2 - Deals 400 dmg. disarms by 2.00 seconds
Level 3 - Deals 500 dmg. disarms by 2.50 seconds
Radius of the damaging line starts out at 100 and ends at 300.

If you vote no then please explain why
(I have little experience in creating characters, so that comments on this hero are accepted )

[Poole_Party]

looks like a good idea, buy really think about how much damage this char is actually going to do. seems a bit OP imo. either lower the damage or increase the cooldown + mana cost.

[wissman]

I think is a good idea add him as it see..because techies is ganging all the time and putting mines arround the map so is hard even to get 6 :P Good idea on suicide also to put it as ulti.

[TitoTacs]

Great i liked techies on DotA and i was really waiting to see one on Hon but dont you think you should change the hand full of feathers? lol? but great character! THUMB UP!!

[Kenpachi`]

Great i liked techies on DotA and i was really waiting to see one on Hon but dont you think you should change the hand full of feathers? lol? but great character! THUMB UP!!
I thought about it... How about "Feather mine"?

[Kenpachi`]

I thought there was too much damage and removed the damage from the third skill leaving only stun

[deadpunk]

Я думаю, лучше третий сделать ослепить перьями(кидает острые перья во врагов, нанося им урон и ослепляя их на краткий промежуток времени - действует как страх во время ульты маликена), а во втором урон сделать физическим и добавить описание наподобие: Мощным ударом крыла выбивает у противника оружие из рук, наносит +30/60/90/120% физ урона. Насчет перьев-мин, описание лучше сделать таким: кладет на землю несколько острых перьев, наступая на которые, враг получает х урона. Самоубийство - Вихрь Перьев - Сильный ветер раздирает на части Элиара, его острые перья летят во все стороны и режут врагов, нанося им массированный урон.

I think it will be better if 3rd skill will be like "Blind" - Eliar throwing his sharp feathers' Damaging and blinding enemies so they dont know where are they going (1.65sec blind, looks like maliken's fear)

2nd - "Hard Swing" - Eliar hits enemy with his wing dealing hard physical damage and disarming him(+30/60/90/120% damage)

Ult - Feather Storm - Strong wind breaks Eliar off, his razor-sharp feathers flies in all directions, dealing massive damage to enemies.

Sry for not-english language, was writing directly to author ^^

[Kenpachi`]

Тут не пойдет ослепление перьями ведь особенность его перьев именно в том что они взрываются а насчет удара крылом ето будет милишная способность а герой то рейнджевый неудобно получится я и так там кд 25 сек сделал

[deadpunk]

чето да, не подумал что он рейндж. Ну тогда что-то вроде: Элиар взмахивает крылом, вызывая сильный ветер, выбивающий у врагов оружие и оттлкивающий их(неплохое дополнение +) )

И имхо лучше сделать упор на остроту перьев, а не на взрывчатость, имхо это глуповато =)

[Kenpachi`]

А как тогда обьяснить первый скил и ульт?
З.Ы. Не проще писать на русском форуме?

[deadpunk]

и кстати, прокаменть моего героя ^^

[deadpunk]

А как тогда обьяснить первый скил и ульт?
З.Ы. Не проще писать на русском форуме?

И первый скилл и ульт уже описал выше)

[Kenpachi`]

Но вдохновителями на етого гера были минер и Дейдара
З.Ы. При твоем предложении ульты мне нечем будет оправдывать такой огромный урон а так я помираю вместе со всеми.

[deadpunk]

Взрыв - это исскуство?)

Помоему интересней на остроту расчет делать, это как-бы новый взгляд на способности техиса

[deadpunk]

sry guys, no more unknown language :D will speak eng

[Kenpachi`]

Взрыв - это исскуство?)

Помоему интересней на остроту расчет делать, это как-бы новый взгляд на способности техиса

Правильней будет Искусство это - взрыв=))
Может быть ты и прав насчет остроты но мне действительно нравятся взрывы тем более что мы с другом дня два думали как-бы прикрутить к этому герою взрывы так-что мне будет обидно избавляться от этой идеи.

[Sil_Dragon1]

I think it would be great I liked the miner in DotA and this hero seems even better

[LindsayLoha1]

we need a techies i think not great late and ok easly and mid but if they port him maybe they'll port templar assasin the one hero that counter him the most

[Kenpachi`]

If you vote no then please explain why

[Kenpachi`]

comment please

[Mickle]

Port ability two into his ult, and ult as an ability as suicide is ONLY useful early game prior to armor debuffs

[Kenpachi`]

I changed the second and fourth places skill.
PS - Comment and vote, please.

[PoopyDesires]

You didn't even remove suicide which was what ruined techies.

[Shark]

First off, I hate techies. Second, Im not so happy with your idea of an explosive bird :S

[Zaraky]

To be honest, this is a helllla weaker techies.

Feather Mine Aka Land Mine. They do up to 600 damage, as for your version only up to 400.

Suicide, well I never liked this skill cuz it was only used to deny yourself in hope of killing someone... So it's useless lol.

Feather Shot: Techies mine stun for 6sec, this one for 2sec? This is weaker then Hammerstorm stun , cmon! :P

Explosion of Weapon... No Remote Mine? Just a single damage, that can disarm the enemy with some damage. It's ok... Not much useful but still ok.


Ok, for the hero, so far You took 3skill of techies and weakened them alot. Techies wouldnt be techies if it wasnt for his remote mine and stasis mine, that what he was best for. Stunning whole enemy and blasting them to hell in one second haha :D Anyhow, good hero over all, if you want him to be techies like, boost the skill and even boost the ult.



First off, I hate techies. Second, Im not so happy with your idea of an explosive bird :S

You're a hater... Shoo Shoo!

[Kenpachi`]

To be honest, this is a helllla weaker techies.

Feather Mine Aka Land Mine. They do up to 600 damage, as for your version only up to 400.

Suicide, well I never liked this skill cuz it was only used to deny yourself in hope of killing someone... So it's useless lol.

Feather Shot: Techies mine stun for 6sec, this one for 2sec? This is weaker then Hammerstorm stun , cmon! :P

Explosion of Weapon... No Remote Mine? Just a single damage, that can disarm the enemy with some damage. It's ok... Not much useful but still ok.


Ok, for the hero, so far You took 3skill of techies and weakened them alot. Techies wouldnt be techies if it wasnt for his remote mine and stasis mine, that what he was best for. Stunning whole enemy and blasting them to hell in one second haha :D Anyhow, good hero over all, if you want him to be techies like, boost the skill and even boost the ult.

About Mines when i last time played techies this skill have 400 dmg max

Suicide i don't think that it's useless

Feather Shot in this skill have 4 sec stun max not 2 i just forget to change it when i delete damge from it

Explosion of Weapon I'll think about boost it.

[Zaraky]

About Mines when i last time played techies this skill have 400 dmg max

Suicide i don't think that it's useless

Feather Shot in this skill have 4 sec stun max not 2 i just forget to change it when i delete damge from it

Explosion of Weapon I'll think about boost it.

http://www.playdota.com/heroes/goblin-techies

Land Mine does 600, Stasis trap stun for 6ec.

So, beside denying yourself and getting first blood, what is suicide good for? It a skill that kill yourself, you lose money, and you got death timer. With all these, you lose more money over all, more xp, and you cant help your team and do defensive play or agresive play... so tell me what's so good about suicide lol.

As for the ultimate, It's somehow like wrectched hag swarm of bat, doing AOE damage but disarming as well.

[Kenpachi`]

I changed mine damage to 600
About stun: I did it for 4 seconds, so as 6 seconds for a standard skill and not for mine is in my opinion too much
As for suicide sorry but I do not agree with you
But I like the idea of making massive ult =)

[Zaraky]

Well, explain why you like Suicide so much then :P

[Kenpachi`]

I did not say that I like suicide but I do not think this skill is useless though of course it has its disadvantages, one of them is something that is difficult to oscillate at its frequent use but it also has its advantages such as suicide is the only skill that causes such a huge damage may be in the game 1x1 this ability is not so useful but when you play as a team ... even in my practice games to DotA for a team game this skill more than once saved the situation

[Kenpachi`]

Comment pls

[Kenpachi`]

Why no comments?

[ODSTR]

I think this is a great hero

[Kenpachi`]

bump

[Kenpachi`]

bump

[plarassassin]

They really need techie cause they port in techies then they need a counter to him hint hint Templar assassin heck ya

[Kenpachi`]

bump

[Puria]

i think its good idea
Exploding feathers...interesting idea :D but it could has sum picture :)

Still...T-up

[Kenpachi`]

bump

[Kenpachi`]

Comment pls

[Rordarok]

Changes the numbers, please..around 15 sec CD on mine on lvl 4 ( level 7 ingame) and 600 damage for a mine...waitwat?

If you stack 2/3 on the same spot tanks on lvl 7 will get oneshotted.

I like the concept but please change the numbers, then Ill vote

[Desodesto]

Name: Eliar
Description: The fate of Eliar was closely intertwined with the fate of Zephyr together they refused to participate in the Beast Horde's war with the humans, they were best friends until the forces of Hellbourne are not captured Eliar to use his unique abilities for their own purposes but the Zephyr pulled his friend from prison and is now embarked on Eliar side of the Legion in this war.
Appearance: Looks like a white eagle wings of the main part of the body golden.
Attack animation: With the wave of the wing throws feather. Feather explodes.
Faction: Legion
Attack Range 650
Power of over 9000 (1.7)
Dexterity 14 (+1.6)
Intelligence 22 (3.2)

Skills:






If you vote no then please explain why
(I have little experience in creating characters, so that comments on this hero are accepted )

What 9,000!

[k1du]

Level 4 - Deals 1550 damage.

C'mon kid , nice dream's

[Kenpachi`]

Changes the numbers, please..around 15 sec CD on mine on lvl 4 ( level 7 ingame) and 600 damage for a mine...waitwat?

If you stack 2/3 on the same spot tanks on lvl 7 will get oneshotted.

I like the concept but please change the numbers, then Ill vote

Numbers is the same that has Goblin Techies in DotA

[Kenpachi`]

Level 4 - Deals 1550 damage.

C'mon kid , nice dream's

It's the same that Goblin Techies's suicide.

[Ohyeah`]

OP as hell

[Kenpachi`]

What 9,000!

wtf are you talking about?

[Kenpachi`]

Bump

[Kenpachi`]

Comment pls

[sahlin342]

for all techis hater out ther http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbveIzu-NRI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbveIzu-NRI&feature=related). it is proof that he is good in team fights if you can play him. (it is not me found it on youtube)

[Xanotos]

it is esstinaly techies, but with a few touches added right in. Something about it i dont like, but i T-Up for good measure. Have a look at my version when u can. May the best techies inspired win :)

[Kenpachi`]

bump

[Kenpachi`]

comment pls

[Kenpachi`]

bump