The Cost Of HoN

[TargieMcRed]

I was looking at the shop, and was looking at the gold coins and thought.. how much does this all cost, so i got out my trusty calculator and went too town (yay):blac:

How much does one coin cost?
If using the $10.00 pack you get 420 coins, so 10/420 = $0.0238 per coin.

If using the $30 pack you get 1575 coins, so 30/1575 = $0.019 per coin

If using the $40 pack you get 2415 coins so 40/2415 = $0.0166 per coin


Alt Avatars
94 Alt Avatars (exluding EA and free ones):

4 cost 75 coins (300) : 4 cost 100 coins (400) : 5 cost 125 coins (625) : 10 cost 150 coins (1500) : 13 cost 175 coins (2275) : 8 cost 200 coins (1600) : 4 cost 225 coins (900) : 1 costs 230 (keep on pimping slayer!) : 20 cost 300 coins (6000) : 3 cost 320 coins (960) : 4 cost 350 (1400) : 7 cost 390 coins (2730) : 2 cost 400 coins (800) 3 cost 420 coins (1260) : 6 cost 600 coins (3600).

Total = 21,790 coins
Cost ($10) $518.602 ($30) $414.1 ($40) $361.714

Account Icons
There are currently 151 account icons costing 50 coins each
151 x 50 = 7,550 Coins
Plus one 300 coin Icon (custom)

Total = 7,850 coins
Cost ($10) $186.83 ($30) 149.15 ($40) 130.31

Account Colours
There are 5 name colours of varying price

Total = 2,450
Cost ($10) $58.31 ($30) $46.55 ($40) $40.67

Account Symbols
There are Two types of Account Symbols, Flags and Heroes:

There are 104 flags each costing 100 coins
104 x 100 = 10,400 coins

There are also 96 heroes symbols each costing 75 coins
96 x 75 = 7,200 coins

Total = 17,600
Cost ($10) $418.88 ($30) $334.4 ($40) $28.22

Taunts
There are 6 taunts of varying price

Total = 2,220 coins
Cost = ($10) $52.36 ($30) $42.18 ($40) $36.852

Announcer Packs
There are 4 Accouncer packs of varying price

Total = 1,740 coins
Cost = ($10) $41.412 ($30) $33.06 ($40) $28.884

Couriers
There are currently 9 couriers of varying price

Total = 2,025 coins
cost = ($10) $48.195 ($30) $38.475 ($40) $33.615


Conclusion

Total number of Coins needed to Buy all Items from the shop:
Grand Total = 55,675

Total Cost in USD($) :
Total Cost ($10) = $1,324.575
Total Cost ($30) = $1,060.48
Total Cost ($40) = $924.20

Happy Mathing :mida:

Cost of Buying Heroes (on F2P accounts)

Currently 95 heroes for sale

78 cost 100 coins (7800) : 14 cost 225 (3150) : 3 cost 250 (750) : 2 cost 275 (550)

Total = 12,250 coins
Cost = ($10) $291.55 : ($30) $232.75 : ($40) $203.35

Liked this one? Look at Part 2 Here

Spoilorz its below

[TargieMcRed]

THE COST OF HON PART 2:
SILVER IS GOLD

I was asked in my last post to see if i could do the same maths for silver instead of gold, and too see how much HoN you would have to play to buy every item in HoN. So here is the output of my trusty calculator :scou:

Defining my bounds:

For this Maths-capade i will be using these bounds to measure out how much time it takes:

1) In this Maths, You recieve 10 silver coins per game (kind of an average)
2) Average game time is set to 25 mins (to turn games into a time value, stay with me here)


ALT AVATARS
89 alt avatars (Excluding EA and Avatars which were only avalible for a limited time)

29 cost 3000 coins (87,000) : 19 cost 470 coins (8930) : 15 cost 560 coins (8400) : 6 cost 900 coins (5400) : 4 cost 1500 coins (6000) : 4 cost 330 coins (1320) : 3 cost 230 coins (690) : 1 costs 3200 : 1 costs 520 : 1 costs 400 : 1 costs 660.

Total = 129,320 coins
Coins / Coins per game = 129,320 / 10 = 12,320
No. Games = 12,320
No. Games * Time Per Game = 12,320 x 25 = 323,330 mins
323,330 mins
5,388.3 hours
224.5 days
ACCOUNT ICONS

151 account icons costing 100 coins each + 1 costing 1000 coins
151 x 100 = 15,100 + 1000 = 16,100 coins
No. Games = 1,610
40,250 mins
670.8 hours
28 days

ACCOUNT COLOURS
There are 5 account colours of varying price

Total = 18,170 couns
No. Games = 1,870
45,425 mins
757.1 hours
31.6 days

ACCOUNT SYMBOLS
There are 200 account symbols all costing 275 coins
200 x 275 = 55,000 coins
No. Games = 5,500
137,500 mins
2,292 hours
95.5 days

TAUNTS
There are 6 taunts of varying price

Total = 9700 coins
No. Games = 970
24,250 mins
404.2 hours
16.8 days

ANNOUNCER PACKS
There are 4 announcer packs of varying price

Total = 11,260 coins
No. Games = 1,126
28,150 mins
469.2 hours
19.5 days

COURIERS
There are 9 couriers of varying price

Total = 6100 coins
No. Games = 610
15,250 mins
254.2 hours
10.6 days

CONCLUSION

Total number of coins needed = 245,650 Silver Coins
Total number of Games = 24,565 Games
Total In Mins = 614,125 Mins
Total In Hours = 10,235.4 hours
Total in Days = 426.5 Days


THE LALOND AVERAGE
I was asked in comments to break the hours down for an average player, so i asked Lalond in his stream how much hon he plays on average per week, and he said 25 hours a week.

So

10,235.4 hours divide by 25 (turn into weeks)
10,235.4 / 25 = 409.4 weeks
409.4 divide by 52 (weeks in a year)
7.87 Years of Average Play
Thanks for reading this. Also please Badger MilkFat into Making this his new record ^^


Also would like to thank [GM]MacroHard for making me completly poo my pants thinking he had deleted this! im sending you the washing bill!!!
TargieMcRed

[tHe_silent_H]

what about the free coins from refering fake acounts, them making them buy coins for you?

[Eiram]

So you are saying i can have everything in the shop for less than one weeks pay? Infact less than that as you dont need 200 account symbols and 151 icons, let alone 6 taunts lol.
Compared to my other hobbies, this game is priced very well.

[Nieve]

I occasionaly get 40$ packages and go for their special actions.

In total I've maybe spend 150$ on this game over the course of the past years (including buying the game itself), and I own nearly everything in the store thats worthwhile. (Who needs every symbol, flag, announcer and chat color? Be realistic.)

Compare it to mmorpgs where you spend 20$ a month just to be allowed to play, or F2P games where you have to spend 30$ a month to not be completly gimped, this game is fantastic, really dont know what all you cheapskates are Q.Qing about. You make it sound like you can't play the game without the alt avatars, symbols and announcers. Holy ****.

[Batchman]

pretty cheap if u ask me, now compare price/playtime with other games

[SF3]

pretty cheap if u ask me, now compare price/playtime with other games

I hope you aren't serious.

[Pandam0n1um]

I hope you aren't serious.

i think he is. compare it to mw3, you play the singleplayer for 6 hours and pay 60 dollar for it: 10 dollar per hour gameplay

now play 1000 hon matches, normal match length 1/2 hour: 500 hours

go spend 500$ in shop: still only 1$/ hour

you actually have to play more than 50 hours of mw3 full of shitty cheaters and ragekids multiplayer to come close to that number, and thats only true if you want to buy everything with gold coins, which you obviously wont, since you will be getting lots of silver coins during those 1000 matches. lets say you only buy 1/2 of the alts for gold, which is still a pretty high number since many heroes have 2 alts now and you normally wouldnt buy both (at least i wouldnt). you then have spend 250$ on hon, which equals 0,5$ per hour of entertainment. compare that to a movie that costs 15$ for 2 hours of film.. pretty cheap, dont you think?

[Mediocre]

pretty cheap if u ask me, now compare price/playtime with other games

I bought Skyrim the other day at steam weekly sale for 30 euros. About the same as 3-4 premium avatars.

You have to compare the price/playtime for the use of that specific avatar (or whatever) not for the whole game.

In that sense Skyrim (for instance) gives you infinite better price/playtime ratio.

[dEph_]

The store prices are ridiculous! Who keeps buying that stuff?

[Isis]

I don't feel bad for spending the ~$200 that I have spent on the game. It's fun, I greatly prefer it over LoL and DotA 2, and I have gotten a lot of time out of it.

[nysmoln]

Now calculate the time spent played to get silver coins for the same stuff.

[Nospheratu]

And they dare to call it F2P.

Good job $'2

Ever since starting to play HoN - after it went f2p - i have spent a whopping 0,00$/€ on it and enjoy it all the same. I agree; good job, S2 :)

[Tilt3d]

All of you hippies should get signs and start a protest....you can convert logical fallacies into cool catch phrases like "We are the 99%!", maybe bring some tents (and for sure some smores).

I'll either be working, or in my off time maybe playing some hon with my cool alt avatars and announcer packs.

PS: Welcome to the business world, consumers. Take a deep breath if you need to, I realize it may be a shocker but it IS true...S2 is a business with expenses incurred that need to be payed. One for example might be artwork, sound work, animation work...perhaps for a new avatar?

[Flawless]

Now do the maths for everything on LoL.. I think you will find that it is infinitely more expensive than HoN, and you cannot get any alts for free(other than ones from special promotions / liking facebook / youtube). Oh and lets not forget that you have to buy runes for each class of hero to make them effective so you'll be dishing out cash for IP boosts as well to afford each set which on avg is about 15k per set.

In other words HoN is a way better value... and way more fun to play(but that's my opinion).

[facedown]

Thank god everything you actually need is free. If you have extra money then you have plenty of opportunity of buying some vanity options.

[Btide]

I have almost every alt avatar..I bought the majority of them when everything was on sale for 50%, most of the money I've spent on S2 coins was made from selling crap in MMO's.

Do I think the prices are too much? yes($10 for a single alt is pricey, mostly the newer ones). Do I mind to spend the money? Nope.

[simena]

I bought Skyrim the other day at steam weekly sale for 30 euros. About the same as 3-4 premium avatars.

You have to compare the price/playtime for the use of that specific avatar (or whatever) not for the whole game.

In that sense Skyrim (for instance) gives you infinite better price/playtime ratio.

How much did you pay for HoN's hundred of hours?

[Soiya_Moite]

How many hours of game play would be required to purchase everything in the shop with only silver? (including heroes with a F2P account)

Also i wonder if S2 has information somewhere saying which account has played the most HoN...

[qazqazqaz]

Gotta say the cosmetics are very cheap comparing to other Free2Play games on the market. Seems good to me.

[roar]

lets just say the only thing people should be complaining about is that 30$(10$) worth of this game (the heroes) now got bumped up to 200$+

The other **** doesn't really affect your game play; just your e-peen

[Demonic150]

The store prices are ridiculous! Who keeps buying that stuff?

I did because I supported HoN.

OP good math.

[T0x]

Bloody hell...
Not too sure how I feel about those numbers xD

Huge jump from $30 per customer, ey? ;)

[Demonic150]

Bloody hell...
Not too sure how I feel about those numbers xD

Huge jump from $30 per customer, ey? ;)

All the stuff that's running in the background to keep everything going smoothly isn't free. $30 was just not enough.

[T0x]

All the stuff that's running in the background to keep everything going smoothly isn't free. $30 was just not enough.
Oh I'm well aware of that, don't you worry... was just sayin'

[HeavySoul]

I did this a while ago for the FTP hero purchase costs, you didn't account for the hero packs. There's really no need to make it look worse than it already is...

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=347693

[GrosFif]

Because you HAVE to buy all the cosmetic stuff if you want to enjoy the game.

Protip : If you think shop prices are too high (or are like me and just don't care about avatars and stuff) then just don't buy coins. Problem solved.

[Pazuzu]

Why do you want everything in the shop? I surely don't I've spent well over 200$~ dollars over the 2 year I've been playing and I don't want everything that comes out.

[IceCat3]

and now we know. ty!

[Conxile]

Do for silver coins naow! :P:P

[Meroi]

Now do one for all alt-avatars, the most expensive taunt, color, and that **** since everyone refuses to see the point and goes for a minor fault in your argument.

[FoEva1000MMR]

I've used $1000 or more on every other hobby than HoN. I haven't checked what I've used on HoN but (if you include the $150 I spent by selling another game) it should be around $500.

[MacroHard]

Moving to mechanics, as this question comes up quite often and there is no other forum that is really suitable for this topic if it is to remain. I checked with the OP and he is okay with this transition.

[ElementUser]

Mechanics' description should be updated to include serious mathcraft of any kind then :P

[PUCKtastic]

GG S2.

[IceCat3]

you should stop at hours, estimate how many hours the average hon player plays a week, and then turn it into how many years (decades) it would take people to earn all the stuff :D...

[Monovax]

Because a hon player really need every symbol, colour and character.

[TargieMcRed]

Because a hon player really need every symbol, colour and character.

i agree... 151 flags... like u need them all, but its just maths bro

[lolsworth]

He did da maff, and we thank him for it

[Msatoshi]

Currently 95 heroes for sale

78 cost 100 coins (7800) : 14 cost 225 (3150) : 3 cost 250 (750) : 2 cost 275 (150)


Eh?

Also I'd love to see the silver coins cost for all F2P heroes...

[SQuid`]

can i ask you something? that refer a friend trick for free coins only works if your fake account makes a purchase too no?

[SmurfinBird]

can i ask you something? that refer a friend trick for free coins only works if your fake account makes a purchase too no?

Haha, nicely worded :). I was under the assumption that you gain referral coins after the account reaches a certain level or buys coins.

[TargieMcRed]

Eh?

2 cost 275 (150)

ahh ****... fixed it thanks :)