Deadrin
10-31-2009, 12:46 AM
So I have been playing night hound and legionaire alot lately and I have followed the guides here in this forum to help me get started. The following problem I have is in regard when trying to farm up items while the team qq about you not being there during pushes.
I am still a noob but currently have more kills then deaths and more wins than losses with a psr of about 1620.
So my question is about when to push with your team and when not to especially when you feel your pub team makes really bad choices on when and where to push. And each bad push results in your death. More money for the enemy and less money for your important items.
Playing legionaire There have been many times in the early game lvl 6-10 that I began to jungle for portal key when my team decides to push an area, usually without calling out "we are pushing" and I don't even realize they were pushing or trying to gank. And if they all die I normally hear legion = nub, or where were you legion, etc.
So I now do my best to join them on their random, often ill-fated attempts to gank at inopportune times or areas.
For example, during a crappy gank at top lane, my team was all spread out etc, everyone died except me and glacius. So glacius gets a hair-brained idea to chase an enemy past their tower. Being low on health, I decide to retreat and let glacius be dum if he wants.
After he died he qq about me leaving him. I get this all the time! They start to cry more so I decide I am not going to partake until I have my items.
Same happens while playing the nighthound. When there is downtime I go farm a lane or jungle. And when there is some action I try to tele there and help if I am able.
Now playing either char, once I get my core items, portal for legion or slash for nighthound, I stick with my team like hot-glue more often.
Also there have been so many times when some wanker thinks he is so pro he pings a gank for me to initiate and that I think is a really bad idea, but I go along with it anyways because he willl qq. Ofcourse I initiate then die, he gets a kill then has to flee. Etc, etc.
Then when I decide to ignore his gank ping because he obviously likes using me as bait, he qq anways.
Often times many bad players who think they are very pro, force other players to gank horribly, push a bad lane at a bad time, or whatever and is it bad for level-headed players to decide not to participate? To live longer, gain more gold, and play smarter?
I find when a team begins to lose all the players begin paying more attention to the other heroes than themselves. They try to pin blame on what they think is the weakest-link. What the don't realize is that they are actually the weakest link. They cry and bash so loudly. Ironically, I have turned a few games around and carried the team to victory after they bashed me all game. I think they hate seeing someone with a 10-2-15 kda knowing they spent all game feeding and they look more like 7-12-9. Its funny how the bashing stops once they see I begin to carry them with a nh or legionaire.
I am still a noob but currently have more kills then deaths and more wins than losses with a psr of about 1620.
So my question is about when to push with your team and when not to especially when you feel your pub team makes really bad choices on when and where to push. And each bad push results in your death. More money for the enemy and less money for your important items.
Playing legionaire There have been many times in the early game lvl 6-10 that I began to jungle for portal key when my team decides to push an area, usually without calling out "we are pushing" and I don't even realize they were pushing or trying to gank. And if they all die I normally hear legion = nub, or where were you legion, etc.
So I now do my best to join them on their random, often ill-fated attempts to gank at inopportune times or areas.
For example, during a crappy gank at top lane, my team was all spread out etc, everyone died except me and glacius. So glacius gets a hair-brained idea to chase an enemy past their tower. Being low on health, I decide to retreat and let glacius be dum if he wants.
After he died he qq about me leaving him. I get this all the time! They start to cry more so I decide I am not going to partake until I have my items.
Same happens while playing the nighthound. When there is downtime I go farm a lane or jungle. And when there is some action I try to tele there and help if I am able.
Now playing either char, once I get my core items, portal for legion or slash for nighthound, I stick with my team like hot-glue more often.
Also there have been so many times when some wanker thinks he is so pro he pings a gank for me to initiate and that I think is a really bad idea, but I go along with it anyways because he willl qq. Ofcourse I initiate then die, he gets a kill then has to flee. Etc, etc.
Then when I decide to ignore his gank ping because he obviously likes using me as bait, he qq anways.
Often times many bad players who think they are very pro, force other players to gank horribly, push a bad lane at a bad time, or whatever and is it bad for level-headed players to decide not to participate? To live longer, gain more gold, and play smarter?
I find when a team begins to lose all the players begin paying more attention to the other heroes than themselves. They try to pin blame on what they think is the weakest-link. What the don't realize is that they are actually the weakest link. They cry and bash so loudly. Ironically, I have turned a few games around and carried the team to victory after they bashed me all game. I think they hate seeing someone with a 10-2-15 kda knowing they spent all game feeding and they look more like 7-12-9. Its funny how the bashing stops once they see I begin to carry them with a nh or legionaire.